Re: [Dorset] Monitor resolution

2010-06-12 Thread Andrew Drapper
Hi all,

Don't you just hat teenagers!!! My son and his friend fixed in about ten
minuets what I could not do in three days and with the help of you at dorset
lug, and #ubuntu and #ubuntu-uk on IRC.

The screen look great now. Still only 17 but crisp and clear.

What they did was something like this.

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Both KDM and GDM have startup scripts that are executed when X is initiated.
For GDM, these are in /etc/gdm/ , while for KDM this is done at
/etc/kde4/kdm/Xsetup. In either case, you can paste in an xrandr command
line string into one of these scripts. For GDM, try putting them right
before initctl -q emit login-session-start DISPLAY_MANAGER=gdm in
/etc/gdm/Init/Default
This process requires root access and mucking around in system config files,
but will take effect earlier in the startup process than using .xprofile,
and will apply to all users including the login screen.
For GDM, try putting them right before initctl -q emit login-session-start
DISPLAY_MANAGER=gdm in /etc/gdm/Init/Default


/etc/gdm/Init/Default

xrandr --addmode VGA 1280x1024

xrandr --output LVDS --mode 1280x1024

sudo gedit /etc/gdm/Init/Default

xrandr --newmode 1280x1024_60.00  109.00  1280 1368 1496 1712  1024 1027
1034 1063 -hsync +vsync

xrandr --addmode VGA1 1280x1024_60.00

xrandr --output VGA1 --mode 1280x1024

Just to mention, there's a lot of information at https://wiki.ubuntu
.com/X/Config/Resolution if you ever have this problem again!

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On 12 June 2010 11:33, Ralph Corderoy ra...@inputplus.co.uk wrote:


 Hi Andrew,

  John Cooper wrote:
   You should be able to go to System/Administration/Display and then
   select Hardware/Monitor Type/Configure and set it to Generic LCD/LCD
   Panel 1280x1024.
 
  When I go to System/Preferences /Display I have not option for
  Hardware. see attached image.

 The image didn't make it through the mailing list.  One option is to
 upload them to http://tinypic.com/ and supply us the URL.

 The http://ubuntu-manual.org/ for 10.04 seems to suggest System -
 Preferences - Monitors on page 102.

 Cheers,
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Re: [Dorset] Monitor resolution

2010-06-12 Thread Tim

Yes but what did he do (for future reference)??

Tim

On Saturday 12 June 2010 11:44:53 Andrew Drapper wrote:
 Hi all,

 Don't you just hat teenagers!!! My son and his friend fixed in about ten
 minuets what I could not do in three days and with the help of you at
 dorset lug, and #ubuntu and #ubuntu-uk on IRC.

 The screen look great now. Still only 17 but crisp and clear.

 What they did was something like this.

 --

 Both KDM and GDM have startup scripts that are executed when X is
 initiated. For GDM, these are in /etc/gdm/ , while for KDM this is done at
 /etc/kde4/kdm/Xsetup. In either case, you can paste in an xrandr command
 line string into one of these scripts. For GDM, try putting them right
 before initctl -q emit login-session-start DISPLAY_MANAGER=gdm in
 /etc/gdm/Init/Default
 This process requires root access and mucking around in system config
 files, but will take effect earlier in the startup process than using
 .xprofile, and will apply to all users including the login screen.
 For GDM, try putting them right before initctl -q emit login-session-start
 DISPLAY_MANAGER=gdm in /etc/gdm/Init/Default


 /etc/gdm/Init/Default

 xrandr --addmode VGA 1280x1024

 xrandr --output LVDS --mode 1280x1024

 sudo gedit /etc/gdm/Init/Default

 xrandr --newmode 1280x1024_60.00  109.00  1280 1368 1496 1712  1024 1027
 1034 1063 -hsync +vsync

 xrandr --addmode VGA1 1280x1024_60.00

 xrandr --output VGA1 --mode 1280x1024

 Just to mention, there's a lot of information at https://wiki.ubuntu
 .com/X/Config/Resolution if you ever have this problem again!

 --

 Just in case any of that makes sense or can help any one.

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 On 12 June 2010 11:33, Ralph Corderoy ra...@inputplus.co.uk wrote:
  Hi Andrew,
 
   John Cooper wrote:
You should be able to go to System/Administration/Display and then
select Hardware/Monitor Type/Configure and set it to Generic LCD/LCD
Panel 1280x1024.
  
   When I go to System/Preferences /Display I have not option for
   Hardware. see attached image.
 
  The image didn't make it through the mailing list.  One option is to
  upload them to http://tinypic.com/ and supply us the URL.
 
  The http://ubuntu-manual.org/ for 10.04 seems to suggest System -
  Preferences - Monitors on page 102.
 
  Cheers,
  Ralph.
 
 
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Re: [Dorset] Monitor resolution

2010-06-11 Thread Ralph Corderoy

Hi Andrew,

 Any tips appreciated. my monitor is not recognised my Ubuntu.

The command

sudo ddcprobe

from the xresprobe package will show information from your card and your
monitor.  The monitor is the `EDID' output.  Depending on the cabling to
your monitor, it may not be available.  (It isn't with my setup, I've
five BNC cables going to my monitor, RGB, Hsync, Vsync, so there's no
I²C data connection.)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Extended_display_identification_data

I suspect it won't work for you else you wouldn't be here asking, but
you did say any tips and its output may be interesting.

Cheers,
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Re: [Dorset] Monitor resolution

2010-06-11 Thread John Carlyle-Clarke
On 10/06/10 23:54, Andrew Drapper wrote:
 I am running Ubuntu 10.04 my monitor is 1280 x 1024 but Ubuntu is only
 letting me have 1024 x 768. How do I change this in 10.04. I believe it is
 not as easy as it used to be. no config file to change, or some such.

 Any tips appreciated. my monitor is not recognised my Ubuntu. My graphics
 are intergrated on a MSI G31TM-P35 and I have a Videoseven monitor.

 Many thanks

 Andrew Drapper

A couple more nuggets:

If you scan the output in /var/log/Xorg0.log you should find the section 
where it's deciding what modes are allowed.  You might get a clue as to 
why it's rejecting the mode you think should be allowed.

You can create a config file with sudo X -configure.  (If I remember 
right, it creates it under a different name so you might need to rename 
it).  You could then override your monitor characteristics.

You're not using the nvidia driver are you? If so, it's all a bit different.


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Re: [Dorset] Monitor resolution

2010-06-11 Thread Sean Gibbins
On 10/06/10 23:54, Andrew Drapper wrote:
 I am running Ubuntu 10.04 my monitor is 1280 x 1024 but Ubuntu is only
 letting me have 1024 x 768. How do I change this in 10.04. I believe it is
 not as easy as it used to be. no config file to change, or some such.

 Any tips appreciated. my monitor is not recognised my Ubuntu. My graphics
 are intergrated on a MSI G31TM-P35 and I have a Videoseven monitor.


I have an Acer P193W monitor that is not recognised by Ubuntu.

In the end I googled for 'Acer P193W + Ubuntu' and created an xorg.conf 
with a monitor section from a known good one that I found in the results.

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Re: [Dorset] Monitor resolution

2010-06-11 Thread Andrew Drapper
Hi Ralph,

sudo ddcprobe is not giving me any success. I have a VGA cable I think it is
called. the standard blue rectangular plug.

Thanks andrew

On 11 June 2010 08:57, Ralph Corderoy ra...@inputplus.co.uk wrote:


 Hi Andrew,

  Any tips appreciated. my monitor is not recognised my Ubuntu.

 The command

sudo ddcprobe

 from the xresprobe package will show information from your card and your
 monitor.  The monitor is the `EDID' output.  Depending on the cabling to
 your monitor, it may not be available.  (It isn't with my setup, I've
 five BNC cables going to my monitor, RGB, Hsync, Vsync, so there's no
 I²C data connection.)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Extended_display_identification_data

 I suspect it won't work for you else you wouldn't be here asking, but
 you did say any tips and its output may be interesting.

 Cheers,
 Ralph.



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Re: [Dorset] Monitor resolution

2010-06-11 Thread Dan Dart
Submit a bug report!

I have an X193W that is, this is strange.

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Re: [Dorset] Monitor resolution

2010-06-11 Thread Ralph Corderoy

Hi Andrew,

  It's a matter of software configuration.
 
 I am sure you are right, but no one can tell me how you configure it.
 I have done before on an earlier Ubuntu, but it was easier then there
 where terminal commands that worked and added a new resolution.

Are you aware of

https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Troubleshooting/Resolution

Working through that may help.  And you didn't say how

sudo ddcprobe

isn't giving you any success.

Cheers,
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Re: [Dorset] Monitor resolution

2010-06-11 Thread Andrew Drapper
Ralph

Re sudo ddcprobe

Sorry I did attach a screen shot, terminal returned 'command not found.'

Andrew Drapper

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On 11 June 2010 12:20, Ralph Corderoy ra...@inputplus.co.uk wrote:


 Hi Andrew,

   It's a matter of software configuration.
 
  I am sure you are right, but no one can tell me how you configure it.
  I have done before on an earlier Ubuntu, but it was easier then there
  where terminal commands that worked and added a new resolution.

 Are you aware of

https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Troubleshooting/Resolution

 Working through that may help.  And you didn't say how

sudo ddcprobe

 isn't giving you any success.

 Cheers,
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Re: [Dorset] Monitor resolution

2010-06-11 Thread Andrew Drapper
Thanks sorry I missed the install bit.

sudo ddcprobe now returns
-
vbe: VESA 3.0 detected.
oem: Intel(r)Q33/Q35/G33 Graphics Chip Accelerated VGA BIOS
vendor: Intel Corporation
product: Intel(r)Q33/Q35/G33 Graphics Controller Hardware Version 0.0
memory: 8128kb
mode: 1280x1024x256
mode: 1280x1024x64k
mode: 1280x1024x16m
mode: 1024x768x256
mode: 1024x768x64k
mode: 1024x768x16m
mode: 640x480x16m
mode: 800x600x64k
mode: 800x600x16m
mode: 640x480x256
mode: 800x600x256
mode: 640x480x64k
edid:

edidfail
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1280x1024 is on the list. but how do I get to use it?

Andrew Drapper

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On 11 June 2010 12:42, Ralph Corderoy ra...@inputplus.co.uk wrote:


 Hi Andrew,

  Re sudo ddcprobe
  Sorry I did attach a screen shot, terminal returned 'command not
  found.'

 Ah, that's because you need to install the package I mentioned.  Try

sudo apt-get install xresprobe

 and once that has worked return to

sudo ddcprobe

 No need to attach a screenshot, it probably wouldn't make it through the
 mailing list to us anyway.  Instead, just cut and paste the relevant bit
 of text from the terminal into the email.  Normally from the $ prompt
 of the shell where you give the command up to the $ of the prompt
 afterwards, e.g.

$ sudo ddcprobe
Calling INT 0x42 (F000:F065)
 EAX is 0xBD50
vbe: VESA 2.0 detected.
oem: Matrox Graphics Inc.
memory: 2048kb
mode: 640x400x256
mode: 640x480x256
mode: 800x600x16
mode: 800x600x256
mode: 1024x768x256
mode: 1280x1024x256
mode: 80x60 (text)
mode: 132x25 (text)
mode: 132x50 (text)
mode: 132x60 (text)
mode: 640x480x32k
mode: 640x480x64k
mode: 640x480x16m
mode: 800x600x32k
mode: 800x600x64k
mode: 800x600x16m
mode: 1024x768x32k
mode: 1024x768x64k
mode: 1024x768x16m
mode: 1280x1024x32k
mode: 1280x1024x64k
edid:
edidfail
$

 Your shell's $ prompt will probably be longer, but the principle's the
 same.

 Cheers,
 Ralph.


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[Dorset] Monitor resolution

2010-06-10 Thread Andrew Drapper
I am running Ubuntu 10.04 my monitor is 1280 x 1024 but Ubuntu is only
letting me have 1024 x 768. How do I change this in 10.04. I believe it is
not as easy as it used to be. no config file to change, or some such.

Any tips appreciated. my monitor is not recognised my Ubuntu. My graphics
are intergrated on a MSI G31TM-P35 and I have a Videoseven monitor.

Many thanks

Andrew Drapper
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Re: [Dorset] Monitor resolution

2010-06-10 Thread John Cooper
On 10/06/10 23:54, Andrew Drapper wrote:
 I am running Ubuntu 10.04 my monitor is 1280 x 1024 but Ubuntu is only
 letting me have 1024 x 768. How do I change this in 10.04. I believe it is
 not as easy as it used to be. no config file to change, or some such.

 Any tips appreciated. my monitor is not recognised my Ubuntu. My graphics
 are intergrated on a MSI G31TM-P35 and I have a Videoseven monitor.

 Many thanks

 Andrew Drapper

You should be able to go to System/Administration/Display and then 
select Hardware/Monitor Type/Configure and set it to Generic LCD/LCD 
Panel 1280x1024.

John.

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