Re: [Dovecot] Sieve MySQL integration
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 or just implement a webinterface that allows editing the values in the DB and afterwards dumps a new vacation script for the user to disk darix +1 for the answer my for personal use i do the same Evaggelos Balaskas - http://ebalaskas.gr Unix System Engineer Informatics Engineer Technological Education -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFHWQwVWIK+Pe9twhoRAll4AKCy0eq3dbJMGdPCLSN6ikHUc+mZYwCdGg3Q FkU/DXlTX0FKvDLDg6r0mY8= =JXtk -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: [Dovecot] Internal Error - Cannot select inbox
On 7.12.2007, at 9.25, Eric Beda wrote: 1 NO Internal error occurred. Refer to server log for more information. [2007-12-07 12:51:56] there are no errors reported in the log files related to that issue for both dovecot.log and maillog There really should be an error logged. It just might be in a different log file than you expected. See http://wiki.dovecot.org/ Logging PGP.sig Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: [Dovecot] imap crash with fts squat enabled.
On 7.12.2007, at 4.52, Joe Wong wrote: Just tested with the latest build, no crash but also no fts result. I found the following in the log: .. Corrupted squat uidlist file /mailfs/4/22/3/joewong99:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ Maildir/dovecot.index.search.uids: Broken uidlists dovecot: Dec 07 10:45:22 Error: IMAP(joewong99:joew.outblaze.com): Corrupted squat uidlist file .. What else do I missed? Mailbox and indexes are on NFS, is this the cause of the problem? What OS do you use? Squat currently uses mmap(), which doesn't work very well if multiple servers are accessing the same squat indexes. But if there's just one server, I think it should have worked. PGP.sig Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: [Dovecot] imap crash with fts squat enabled.
On Fri, 2007-12-07 at 11:05 +0200, Timo Sirainen wrote: dovecot: Dec 07 10:45:22 Error: IMAP(joewong99:joew.outblaze.com): Corrupted squat uidlist file .. What else do I missed? Mailbox and indexes are on NFS, is this the cause of the problem? What OS do you use? Squat currently uses mmap(), which doesn't work very well if multiple servers are accessing the same squat indexes. But if there's just one server, I think it should have worked. http://hg.dovecot.org/dovecot/rev/66b3e894041b adds support for mmap_disable=yes signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
[Dovecot] i18n.kde.org
151.189.12.245 i18n.kde.org [snip] Dec 7 14:19:26 [EMAIL PROTECTED]/tg3 dovecot: IMAP([EMAIL PROTECTED]): Corrupted transaction log file /home/virtual/mydomain.com/home/peter.day/Maildir/.Trash/dovecot.index.log: Append with UID 50, but next_uid = 15870 This is the real error. What kind of a system do you have? Do you use NFS or other shared filesystem? Post your dovecot -n output? Standard local disk partition. No NFS. tg3 daniel # dovecot -n # 1.0.7: /etc/dovecot/dovecot.conf syslog_facility: local5 protocols: imap imaps pop3 pop3s listen(default): *:143 listen(imap): *:143 listen(pop3): *:110 ssl_listen(default): *:993 ssl_listen(imap): *:993 ssl_listen(pop3): *:995 ssl_cert_file: /var/ssl/certs/imapd.pem ssl_key_file: /var/ssl/private/imapd.pem disable_plaintext_auth: no login_dir: /var/run/dovecot/login login_executable(default): /usr/libexec/dovecot/imap-login login_executable(imap): /usr/libexec/dovecot/imap-login login_executable(pop3): /usr/libexec/dovecot/pop3-login login_process_per_connection: no login_processes_count: 5 verbose_proctitle: yes default_mail_env: maildir:/home/virtual/%h mail_location: maildir:/home/virtual/%h mail_full_filesystem_access: yes mmap_disable: yes dotlock_use_excl: yes fsync_disable: yes maildir_copy_with_hardlinks: yes mail_executable(default): /usr/libexec/dovecot/imap mail_executable(imap): /usr/libexec/dovecot/imap mail_executable(pop3): /usr/libexec/dovecot/pop3 mail_process_size: 128 mail_plugins(default): imap_quota quota mail_plugins(imap): imap_quota quota mail_plugins(pop3): quota mail_plugin_dir: /usr/lib/dovecot/imap mail_log_max_lines_per_sec: 30 imap_client_workarounds(default): outlook-idle delay-newmail imap_client_workarounds(imap): outlook-idle delay-newmail imap_client_workarounds(pop3): outlook-idle pop3_uidl_format: %08Xv%08Xu namespace: type: private separator: / inbox: yes namespace: type: private separator: / prefix: mail/ location: maildir:/home/virtual/%h hidden: yes auth default: cache_size: 2048 cache_ttl: 900 master_user_separator: * worker_max_count: 5 passdb: driver: passwd-file args: /etc/master.pwd master: yes passdb: driver: sql args: /etc/dovecot-mysql.conf userdb: driver: sql args: /etc/dovecot-mysql.conf plugin: quota: maildir Shouldn't Dovecot be able to recover from this? It does, that's why there are those marked corrupted errors. But it probably does cause the current operation to fail. v1.1 handles this by logging the error but continuing anyway, so the operation shouldn't fail. If you mean that it repeatedly fails with the same error, then the same error condition is created over and over again for some reason. Yes it repeatedly fails until I manually remove the index files. However after removing them it does not seem to reoccur. Thanks Timo, Dan
Re: [Dovecot] Corrupted Transaction Log File: v1.0.7
On Fri, 2007-12-07 at 14:33 +, Daniel Watts wrote: Following errors have happened quite a bit: Dec 7 14:19:26 [EMAIL PROTECTED]/tg3 dovecot: IMAP([EMAIL PROTECTED]): Transaction log file /home/virtual/mydomain.com/home/peter.day/Maildir/.Trash/dovecot.index.log: marked corrupted Dec 7 14:19:26 [EMAIL PROTECTED]/tg3 dovecot: IMAP([EMAIL PROTECTED]): Transaction log file /home/virtual/mydomain.com/home/peter.day/Maildir/.Trash/dovecot.index.log.2: marked corrupted These happen because of another error that caused them to be marked corrupted. Dec 7 14:19:26 [EMAIL PROTECTED]/tg3 dovecot: IMAP([EMAIL PROTECTED]): Corrupted transaction log file /home/virtual/mydomain.com/home/peter.day/Maildir/.Trash/dovecot.index.log: Append with UID 50, but next_uid = 15870 This is the real error. What kind of a system do you have? Do you use NFS or other shared filesystem? Post your dovecot -n output? Shouldn't Dovecot be able to recover from this? It does, that's why there are those marked corrupted errors. But it probably does cause the current operation to fail. v1.1 handles this by logging the error but continuing anyway, so the operation shouldn't fail. If you mean that it repeatedly fails with the same error, then the same error condition is created over and over again for some reason. signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: [Dovecot] open files
On Fri, 2007-12-07 at 09:24 -0500, Joe Allesi -X (joallesi - Coyote Creek Consulting at Cisco) wrote: Most likely you hit this threshold: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]# cat /proc/sys/fs/file-max 380081 Check the current usage here: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]# cat /proc/sys/fs/file-nr 21450 380081 That actually gives a slightly different error message: Too many open files in system. signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: [Dovecot] open files
On Fri, 2007-12-07 at 11:23 +, Steve Heaven wrote: This morning dovecot stopped allowing pop3 logins. In the logs I found the messages below Is there a config value for the max open files ? Dec 7 10:00:22 frigga dovecot: execv(/usr/local/libexec/dovecot/pop3) failed: Too many open files Dec 7 10:01:14 frigga dovecot: pipe() failed: Too many open files You probably had lots and lots of pop3 processes running, overflowing the number of available fds for logging. v1.1 gives a warning about this at startup. Change your ulimit or settings so that ulimit -n before starting Dovecot gives a somewhat larger number than max_mail_processes + login_max_processes_count. signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
[Dovecot] Corrupted Transaction Log File: v1.0.7
Following errors have happened quite a bit: Dec 7 14:19:26 [EMAIL PROTECTED]/tg3 dovecot: IMAP([EMAIL PROTECTED]): Transaction log file /home/virtual/mydomain.com/home/peter.day/Maildir/.Trash/dovecot.index.log: marked corrupted Dec 7 14:19:26 [EMAIL PROTECTED]/tg3 dovecot: IMAP([EMAIL PROTECTED]): Transaction log file /home/virtual/mydomain.com/home/peter.day/Maildir/.Trash/dovecot.index.log.2: marked corrupted Dec 7 14:19:26 [EMAIL PROTECTED]/tg3 dovecot: IMAP([EMAIL PROTECTED]): Corrupted transaction log file /home/virtual/mydomain.com/home/peter.day/Maildir/.Trash/dovecot.index.log: Append with UID 50, but next_uid = 15870 Causing Peter Day not to be able to delete emails. Seems mostly to happen in the Trash I think. Shouldn't Dovecot be able to recover from this? And then have some rule that if it cannot recover, delete the index file and rebuild? When I manually remove the file it works fine. Thanks, Daniel
Re: [Dovecot] open files
On Fri, 2007-12-07 at 09:24 -0500, Joe Allesi -X (joallesi - Coyote Creek Consulting at Cisco) wrote: Most likely you hit this threshold: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]# cat /proc/sys/fs/file-max 380081 Check the current usage here: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]# cat /proc/sys/fs/file-nr 21450 380081 I doubt it, the current figures are: # cat /proc/sys/fs/file-nr 21120 24748 # cat /proc/sys/fs/file-max 24748 So we are using less than a tenth of the available handles -- thorNET Internet Services, Consultancy Training www.thornet.co.uk
Re: [Dovecot] open files
Most likely you hit this threshold: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]# cat /proc/sys/fs/file-max 380081 Check the current usage here: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]# cat /proc/sys/fs/file-nr 21450 380081 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Steve Heaven Sent: Friday, December 07, 2007 6:24 AM To: dovecot@dovecot.org Subject: [Dovecot] open files Is there a config value for the max open files ?
Re: [Dovecot] Corrupted Transaction Log File: v1.0.7
[snip] Dec 7 14:19:26 [EMAIL PROTECTED]/tg3 dovecot: IMAP([EMAIL PROTECTED]): Corrupted transaction log file /home/virtual/mydomain.com/home/peter.day/Maildir/.Trash/dovecot.index.log: Append with UID 50, but next_uid = 15870 This is the real error. What kind of a system do you have? Do you use NFS or other shared filesystem? Post your dovecot -n output? Standard local disk partition. No NFS. tg3 daniel # dovecot -n # 1.0.7: /etc/dovecot/dovecot.conf syslog_facility: local5 protocols: imap imaps pop3 pop3s listen(default): *:143 listen(imap): *:143 listen(pop3): *:110 ssl_listen(default): *:993 ssl_listen(imap): *:993 ssl_listen(pop3): *:995 ssl_cert_file: /var/ssl/certs/imapd.pem ssl_key_file: /var/ssl/private/imapd.pem disable_plaintext_auth: no login_dir: /var/run/dovecot/login login_executable(default): /usr/libexec/dovecot/imap-login login_executable(imap): /usr/libexec/dovecot/imap-login login_executable(pop3): /usr/libexec/dovecot/pop3-login login_process_per_connection: no login_processes_count: 5 verbose_proctitle: yes default_mail_env: maildir:/home/virtual/%h mail_location: maildir:/home/virtual/%h mail_full_filesystem_access: yes mmap_disable: yes dotlock_use_excl: yes fsync_disable: yes maildir_copy_with_hardlinks: yes mail_executable(default): /usr/libexec/dovecot/imap mail_executable(imap): /usr/libexec/dovecot/imap mail_executable(pop3): /usr/libexec/dovecot/pop3 mail_process_size: 128 mail_plugins(default): imap_quota quota mail_plugins(imap): imap_quota quota mail_plugins(pop3): quota mail_plugin_dir: /usr/lib/dovecot/imap mail_log_max_lines_per_sec: 30 imap_client_workarounds(default): outlook-idle delay-newmail imap_client_workarounds(imap): outlook-idle delay-newmail imap_client_workarounds(pop3): outlook-idle pop3_uidl_format: %08Xv%08Xu namespace: type: private separator: / inbox: yes namespace: type: private separator: / prefix: mail/ location: maildir:/home/virtual/%h hidden: yes auth default: cache_size: 2048 cache_ttl: 900 master_user_separator: * worker_max_count: 5 passdb: driver: passwd-file args: /etc/master.pwd master: yes passdb: driver: sql args: /etc/dovecot-mysql.conf userdb: driver: sql args: /etc/dovecot-mysql.conf plugin: quota: maildir Shouldn't Dovecot be able to recover from this? It does, that's why there are those marked corrupted errors. But it probably does cause the current operation to fail. v1.1 handles this by logging the error but continuing anyway, so the operation shouldn't fail. If you mean that it repeatedly fails with the same error, then the same error condition is created over and over again for some reason. Yes it repeatedly fails until I manually remove the index files. However after removing them it does not seem to reoccur. Thanks Timo, Dan
Re: [Dovecot] open files
On Fri, 2007-12-07 at 16:38 +0200, Timo Sirainen wrote: Change your ulimit or settings so that ulimit -n before starting Dovecot gives a somewhat larger number than max_mail_processes + login_max_processes_count. OK, thanks -- thorNET Internet Services, Consultancy Training www.thornet.co.uk
[Dovecot] open files
This morning dovecot stopped allowing pop3 logins. In the logs I found the messages below Is there a config value for the max open files ? Dec 7 10:00:22 frigga dovecot: execv(/usr/local/libexec/dovecot/pop3) failed: Too many open files Dec 7 10:01:14 frigga dovecot: pipe() failed: Too many open files Dec 7 10:03:40 frigga dovecot: pipe() failed: Too many open files Dec 7 10:03:40 frigga dovecot: pipe() failed: Too many open files Dec 7 10:03:40 frigga dovecot: pipe() failed: Too many open files Dec 7 10:03:40 frigga dovecot: pipe() failed: Too many open files Dec 7 10:03:43 frigga dovecot: pipe() failed: Too many open files Dec 7 10:03:45 frigga dovecot: pipe() failed: Too many open files Dec 7 10:04:39 frigga dovecot: pipe() failed: Too many open files Dec 7 10:04:41 frigga dovecot: pipe() failed: Too many open files Dec 7 10:04:50 frigga dovecot: pipe() failed: Too many open files Dec 7 10:05:00 frigga dovecot: pipe() failed: Too many open files Dec 7 10:05:02 frigga dovecot: pipe() failed: Too many open files Dec 7 10:06:05 frigga dovecot: pipe() failed: Too many open files Dec 7 10:06:05 frigga dovecot: pipe() failed: Too many open files Dec 7 10:06:05 frigga dovecot: pipe() failed: Too many open files Dec 7 10:06:06 frigga dovecot: pipe() failed: Too many open files Dec 7 10:07:48 frigga dovecot: pipe() failed: Too many open files Dec 7 10:08:05 frigga dovecot: pipe() failed: Too many open files
Re: [Dovecot] Mails get lost - RHEL 5.1 - dovecot-1.0-1.2.rc15.el5
Nikolay Shopik schrieb: On 04.12.2007 19:35, Götz Reinicke wrote: Hi, we do have a Voiceboxserver which forward recorded avi messages to the mailserver account of users. I'v tested it for my account 10 minutes ago and everything works. Some users don't get the messages shown up in there mailclient while the logs show a delivery of that mail. May be some mail caches are messed up? We use Thunderbird 2 and the users concerned use imap. Where may I look or what may I check? Thanks for your help! Regards Götz So you sure it was delivered, seen this on dovecot.info log? If you are using maildir you may check if file delivered and exist. Hi, has somewone done an upgrade of the red hat package from an other source? E.g. I have rebuild the latest fedora core 8 rpm (dovecot-1.0.7-2) without erros. But will an update to this version break anything? May I addjust some settings? Thanks for any suggestions! Regards Götz -- Götz Reinicke IT Koordinator Tel. +49 7141 969 420 Fax +49 7141 969 55 420 E-Mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] Filmakademie Baden-Württemberg GmbH Mathildenstr. 20 71638 Ludwigsburg www.filmakademie.de Eintragung Amtsgericht Stuttgart HRB 205016 Vorsitzender des Aufsichtsrats: Dr. Christoph Palmer, MdL, Minister a.D. Geschäftsführer: Prof. Thomas Schadt
Re: [Dovecot] Internal Error - Cannot select inbox
On 12/7/2007, Eric Beda ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: # dovecot --version 1.0.rc15 Also - this is really old - lots of changes in the released version... You really should upgrade - or maybe wait until 1.1 goes gold, and then upgrade - but do yourself a favor and do it soon. -- Best regards, Charles
Re: [Dovecot] Corrupted Transaction Log File: v1.0.7
On Fri, 2007-12-07 at 15:01 +, Daniel Watts wrote: Shouldn't Dovecot be able to recover from this? It does, that's why there are those marked corrupted errors. But it probably does cause the current operation to fail. v1.1 handles this by logging the error but continuing anyway, so the operation shouldn't fail. If you mean that it repeatedly fails with the same error, then the same error condition is created over and over again for some reason. Yes it repeatedly fails until I manually remove the index files. However after removing them it does not seem to reoccur. The next time this happens, could you send me: - dovecot.index - dovecot.index.log* - dovecot-uidlist - ls new/ cur/ None of those should contain any sensitive information. signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
[Dovecot] Is dovecot the right choice for this problem?
Is dovecot the right choice for this problem? I have a shared server with verio. I have one particular client that sends and receives numerous large emails, and those emails were causing me to run out of processes on my verio server, and basically slow things down a great deal due to the shared mail queue. Verio suggested Dovecot to reduce server load and allow this one client to have less problems with sending and receiving email. Does this sound logical to anyone in the know? Thanks! Darren
Re: [Dovecot] Is dovecot the right choice for this problem?
Bill, There's a ringing endorsement of Verio. They told me that the server had agroup mail file and all the users had their mail stored together. If I installed Dovecot, they said it would split the mailboxes up into individual files, and reduce the load on teh server, thus allowing it to better handle large mailboxes. I guess they are just making it up as they go along... thanks for the info though. I suppose I will seek an independent email host somewhere and have their mail forwarded, or upgrade my server on verio. Thanks, Darren *** REPLY SEPARATOR *** RESPONSE TAG: 8483057671202 On 12/7/2007 at 10:49 PM Bill Cole wrote: At 11:56 AM -0600 12/7/07, Darren McLaughlin wrote: Is dovecot the right choice for this problem? I have a shared server with verio. I have one particular client that sends and receives numerous large emails, and those emails were causing me to run out of processes on my verio server, and basically slow things down a great deal due to the shared mail queue. Verio suggested Dovecot to reduce server load and allow this one client to have less problems with sending and receiving email. Does this sound logical to anyone in the know? It does not sound right. Dovecot is not involved in sending mail. It never comes anywhere near the mail queue. It does sound about par for the course for Verio support though. Spot on. -- Bill Cole [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.16.17/1176 - Release Date: 12/6/2007 11:15 PM .-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-. Darren McLaughlin Mindstream Technologies Business Technology Consulting C: (217) 841-5167 P: (217) 867-2522 F: (217) 867-2522 .-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.
Re: [Dovecot] pipe plugin - is anyone interested (or using it)?
Quoting Johannes Berg [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I do think, however, that the two plugins could possibly converge. I don't think they can converge, they work in very different ways, since yours work at the IMAP level while mine works at the storage level. Actually, I work at storage level too now, I modified it. Oh. I missed that. I had a look at your plugin, quite some time ago, and did not think you would have modified it in such a way. I should definitely give it a look; how to you figure out where the mail comes from? No, but I'm using spam as an example of how your plugin could be generalised to work the same as mine with a different configuration. It seems to me that you only consider use cases that depend on the target folder while my generalisation was to make it depend on the pair (source, target). I did not think it would be possible to use the (source,target) pair at the storage level. Now that I understand your proposal a little better, I think it looks like a good idea. Cheers, Nicolas
Re: [Dovecot] pipe plugin - is anyone interested (or using it)?
Quoting Johannes Berg [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
plugin {
(...)
pipe = /var/learn/%u/.spam:spamc -d some.host -L spam
pipe2 = /var/learn/%u/.ham:spamc -d some.host -L ham
(...)
And here I define that any message stored to /var/learn/%u/.spam where
%u is the username (that is learn.spam in the user's IMAP namespace) has
to be piped to the spamc -d some.host -L spam command. And the same
for ham.
The above is why I like my antispam plugin much better: you can push
into *any* folder *from* spam to train as ham.
It certainly is a matter of taste, but that also was the reason why I
did not like your plugin... ;-)
Firstly, if a message is correctly identified as a spam, but I want to
keep it a copy for some reason, copying outside the spam plugin means
learning as ham, so I have to copy it again into the spam plugin to
re-learn it as ham.
Sencondly, I don't know how dspam works, but spamassassin can identify
a message as HAM or SPAM without learning it. If I want to learn a
message correctly identified as spam but not auto-learnt, I have again
to move it out of the spam folder and then back in. The same if a
message is correctly identified by ham but not auto-learnt, I have to
move it to the spam folder and then out of it.
Lastly, I'd prefer my user to make some explicit action to learn a
message rather than have a system that somewhat guesses for them...
I do think, however, that the two plugins could possibly converge.
I don't think they can converge, they work in very different ways,
since yours work at the IMAP level while mine works at the storage
level.
Hence, mine can also be triggered by a delivery with dovecot's
deliver, but when a message is copied or appended, it does not know
where it comes from (but as far as I am concerned, since I don't like
triggering when moving a message out of a folder, it does not matter).
On the other hand, yours only works with IMAP, overriding the COPY
command.
That
would entail being able to specify pipes with two endpoints, right now
you just have the destination folder. In order to do that, the plugin
would have to be configurable like this, with the pipes tried in the
order they are numbered:
# learn into spam as spam
pipe.1 = *SPAM |/learn/as --spam
pipe.2 = UNSURESPAM |/learn/as --spam
# forbid into unsure
pipe.3 = *UNSURE-
# learn from unsure or spam folder as ham
pipe.4 = UNSURE*|/learn/as --ham
pipe.5 = SPAM* |/learn/as --ham
Those only work if you consider messages that are copied from a folder
to a different one. But how do you deal with messages that are
appended from another source (such as messages being delivered or
appended by an IMAP client)?
This would allow writing a simple plugin, having dovecot load it (before
the pipe plugin) and having a function in that plugin called, splitting
the work the antispam plugin would do in that case into two plugins.
I guess that such a plugin is actually more generic than pipe then.
It looks to me that you only consider spam/ham learning as a use for
such a plugin. I think other uses are possible. For example, I
remember someone who was willing to implement an outbox.
Do you have the pipe plugin code in git anywhere I can pull from and see
if I can do such modifications?
No, I have never used git. But you have the tarball.
Cheers,
Nicolas
Re: [Dovecot] pipe plugin - is anyone interested (or using it)?
plugin {
(...)
pipe = /var/learn/%u/.spam:spamc -d some.host -L spam
pipe2 = /var/learn/%u/.ham:spamc -d some.host -L ham
(...)
And here I define that any message stored to /var/learn/%u/.spam where
%u is the username (that is learn.spam in the user's IMAP namespace) has
to be piped to the spamc -d some.host -L spam command. And the same
for ham.
The above is why I like my antispam plugin much better: you can push
into *any* folder *from* spam to train as ham.
I do think, however, that the two plugins could possibly converge. That
would entail being able to specify pipes with two endpoints, right now
you just have the destination folder. In order to do that, the plugin
would have to be configurable like this, with the pipes tried in the
order they are numbered:
# learn into spam as spam
pipe.1 = *SPAM |/learn/as --spam
pipe.2 = UNSURESPAM|/learn/as --spam
# forbid into unsure
pipe.3 = *UNSURE -
# learn from unsure or spam folder as ham
pipe.4 = UNSURE* |/learn/as --ham
pipe.5 = SPAM* |/learn/as --ham
Maybe for the configuration some command aliases could be defined:
pipe.cmd.learnas = /learn/as --user %u
pipe.1 = *SPAM !learnas --spam
causes an internal expansion to:
pipe.1 = *SPAM |/learn/as --user %u --spam
As you can see, I have prefixed the command with a pipe symbol. This
indicates that a program shall be invoked. I have prefixed the alias
with an exclamation mark. In order to have the libdspam (or similar)
training some people wanted, we could allow a bare specification for
ld-open style:
pipe.1 = *SPAM builtin_learn_as
which would essentially do:
fn = dlsym(RTLD_DEFAULT, builtin_learn_as);
fn(source folder, dest folder, mail struct[, ...?])
This would allow writing a simple plugin, having dovecot load it (before
the pipe plugin) and having a function in that plugin called, splitting
the work the antispam plugin would do in that case into two plugins.
I guess that such a plugin is actually more generic than pipe then.
Do you have the pipe plugin code in git anywhere I can pull from and see
if I can do such modifications?
johannes
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Re: [Dovecot] Is dovecot the right choice for this problem?
At 11:56 AM -0600 12/7/07, Darren McLaughlin wrote: Is dovecot the right choice for this problem? I have a shared server with verio. I have one particular client that sends and receives numerous large emails, and those emails were causing me to run out of processes on my verio server, and basically slow things down a great deal due to the shared mail queue. Verio suggested Dovecot to reduce server load and allow this one client to have less problems with sending and receiving email. Does this sound logical to anyone in the know? It does not sound right. Dovecot is not involved in sending mail. It never comes anywhere near the mail queue. It does sound about par for the course for Verio support though. Spot on. -- Bill Cole [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Dovecot] pipe plugin - is anyone interested (or using it)?
Oh. I missed that. I had a look at your plugin, quite some time ago, and did not think you would have modified it in such a way. http://johannes.sipsolutions.net/Projects/dovecot-antispam I should definitely give it a look; how to you figure out where the mail comes from? TBH, I forgot :) The code can be browsed here: http://git.sipsolutions.net/?p=dovecot-antispam.git;a=tree No, but I'm using spam as an example of how your plugin could be generalised to work the same as mine with a different configuration. It seems to me that you only consider use cases that depend on the target folder while my generalisation was to make it depend on the pair (source, target). I did not think it would be possible to use the (source,target) pair at the storage level. Now that I understand your proposal a little better, I think it looks like a good idea. :) johannes signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: [Dovecot] pipe plugin - is anyone interested (or using it)?
It certainly is a matter of taste, but that also was the reason why I did not like your plugin... ;-) Aha, but with what I proposed that becomes a matter of configuration, hence my SPAM* rule in there. Lastly, I'd prefer my user to make some explicit action to learn a message rather than have a system that somewhat guesses for them... You can still have that, I was just expressing how my plugin works in terms of some rules. I do think, however, that the two plugins could possibly converge. I don't think they can converge, they work in very different ways, since yours work at the IMAP level while mine works at the storage level. Actually, I work at storage level too now, I modified it. Hence, mine can also be triggered by a delivery with dovecot's deliver, but when a message is copied or appended, it does not know where it comes from (but as far as I am concerned, since I don't like triggering when moving a message out of a folder, it does not matter). Yeah, if you load it into deliver which I'd consider somewhat stupid to do with my plugin. Those only work if you consider messages that are copied from a folder to a different one. But how do you deal with messages that are appended from another source (such as messages being delivered or appended by an IMAP client)? Good point. You could treat that as the empty source, like pipe.3 = SPAM do something and have a wildcard that matches all (like .* RE) and one that matches all not empty (like .+ RE) It looks to me that you only consider spam/ham learning as a use for such a plugin. I think other uses are possible. For example, I remember someone who was willing to implement an outbox. No, but I'm using spam as an example of how your plugin could be generalised to work the same as mine with a different configuration. It seems to me that you only consider use cases that depend on the target folder while my generalisation was to make it depend on the pair (source, target). johannes signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
