Re: [Dovecot] windows imap clients
On Sep 21, 2009, at 7:07 AM, Charles Sprickman wrote: -searches across 2GB+ of mail are painfully slow, since it's all server-side You could improve this with http://wiki.dovecot.org/Plugins/FTS
Re: [Dovecot] Problem with quota in maildir++
On Sep 18, 2009, at 12:07 PM, Antonio Casado Rodríguez wrote:
Hi all. I have a problem with one user. His quota is upper of real
quota.
# cd /var/mail/problemuser/
# find . -name 'dovecot*' -exec rm -f {} \;
# find . -name 'maildir*' -exec rm -f {} \;
# echo test | mail problemuser -s test
# more maildirsize
104857600S
104215602 1439
647 1
# du -h
Well, du -h doesn't necessarily match the quota. For example if the
user has copied the same message multiple times, du counts its disk
space only once. I'd guess that's the problem. Perhaps there's a 1 MB
mail that's been copied 80 times or something?
Maybe use something like ls -l for each cur/ directory and count the
total numbers together. That should give something closer to the
Maildir++ quota.
Re: [Dovecot] Sieve not fast enough after upgrade?
On Sep 15, 2009, at 7:27 PM, Nikolay Shopik wrote:
I've upgraded mine Dovecot 1.0.15 to 1.2.4 also moved to new Sieve.
I have simple sieve rule:
if header :contains Delivered-To [b...@bcc.inblock.ru] {
setflag \\Seen;
}
It basically mark my own messages which are saved to Sent folder.
When I was on 1.0.15 I never seen unread count in Thunderbird, but
suddenly after upgrade I seen unread message in Sent folder just
after I've sent message. If I open Sent folder it already marked as
read.
Me wonder if this is actually Dovecot much faster delivers and
reports to MUA there is new unread message or Sieve not perform fast
enough?
The \Seen flag is set before the message is visible, so I can't really
think of why this would be happening. Getting a rawlog from when TB
sees this might be helpful. http://wiki.dovecot.org/Debugging/Rawlog
Re: [Dovecot] windows imap clients
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 2009-09-21 14:21, Timo Sirainen wrote: On Sep 21, 2009, at 7:07 AM, Charles Sprickman wrote: -searches across 2GB+ of mail are painfully slow, since it's all server-side You could improve this with http://wiki.dovecot.org/Plugins/FTS ... but note that FTS creates one index per mailbox (=folder), so with a huge amount of folders (which seems to be the case in your setup), it won't help you much. Timo, wasn't there a way to get around this limitation via virtual folders? Patrick. - -- STAR Software (Shanghai) Co., Ltd. http://www.star-group.net/ Phone:+86 (21) 3462 7688 x 826 Fax: +86 (21) 3462 7779 PGP key: E883A005 https://stshacom1.star-china.net/keys/patrick_nagel.asc Fingerprint: E09A D65E 855F B334 E5C3 5386 EF23 20FC E883 A005 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Fedora - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAkq3KIAACgkQ7yMg/OiDoAVgIACfS0BCmyBwDRdtdwxNpZ7Ii+Ir MPgAni8quZlnwYlRgBB0sKiJC7x0rJne =B0Xg -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: [Dovecot] Disconnected: Too many invalid IMAP commands
I was never meant to start a flame, so forgive me if I didn't observe the list guidelines. The issue is solved now, it was a simple firewall (anti-malware setting) issue… This runs against distro vs distro arguments, version vs version, etc. Before writing to this list I already Googled, contacted a couple of Ubuntu forums, a couple of independent lists, to no avail. I either had no reply, or have been told to upgrade, to change distro, to compile vs using binaries, to switch to gentoo, etc. etc. old stable isn't always cause of issues, in general, although I might agree with many of your statements and observations. Thanks for your time, guys! :-) Gabriele
Re: [Dovecot] Email box as mulitples files
Hello Ammad, Ammad Shah, 20.09.2009 (d.m.y): i have configured Dovecot to save all emails (Sent/recieve) in multiple files (MailDir) but still emails are stored in single file (POP3 account) also a single file in /var/spool/mail. What abut your MTA? Is it configured to use Maildir? Gruss/Regards, Christian Schmidt -- Q: What's the difference between Bell Labs and the Boy Scouts of America? A: The Boy Scouts have adult supervision.
Re: [Dovecot] Override quota rules based on mail's content
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Thu, 10 Sep 2009, Marty Anstey wrote: Actually I just tried this and it doesn't appear to work: Fatal: Error in config file /etc/dovecot-noquota.conf: deliver doesn't support !include directive I manage multiple copies of conf's using make and: a) patch / apply a diff each time b) use a preprocessor, such as GNU m4 m4 is pretty easy, if one understands the illogic ` ' quoting :) Actually, m4 is superceeding patch and sed nowadays. Bye, - -- Steffen Kaiser -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) iQEVAwUBSrc5d3WSIuGy1ktrAQImjAgAkPUXjYx5AaI+/68PBGGcctbY2b83sLvI 5UL65Sl/tURsKkfyqHldlumJTz7VaO5BuqMnd4AlR0clb+XoSmNHu/MU1EOOADS2 oE+xr+yCg3R0uRv9dYkPsVP4Ahcxej51CCvGLSv6VJNLNnlNlTd4KxD5C7uIxLfj eF+Kwcm3abclNxPH/5X08PNKb1d1rr0rJhTigd2y3jFI1j23Z+F4A8IUnye05ZOH 5E4rRnROI+ulGysExeVzVVDFfdMH9eeJvnXG/34LeAMKujZtI4fuD0NrkdfqpQNN 7k0P6QFJcrYKEYXGjFuBrxhTx+9Gbvz/bkK7JbDT+sycLqJTGlAmUg== =SyTc -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: [Dovecot] plugin development guide for non-FS backing store
Hello, Timo. Wow. directly from the creator ;-) Thanks for the reply. This is something completely new. We are connecting to our pre-existing custom-made mail server. IMAP needs to be plugged into the infrastructure. So basically we can simply use existing index_* since we need to have index files (on local fs) no matter what. I saw dbox source file there. Is the layer stable (as far as API goes)? Tell me more about the abstraction layer. Thanks a lot!! Chang On Sep 21, 2009, at 2:44 PM, Timo Sirainen wrote: On Sep 20, 2009, at 4:42 AM, Chang Song wrote: I was wondering if anyone has some sort of guide or reference on plugin development. We are trying to develop a non-filesystem backing store. So basically we do not store mailboxes for users in local filesystem. We do RPC call to fetch from fileservers. Well, the best there exists currently is http://dovecot.org/list/dovecot/2007-November/026632.html but it's for an old Dovecot version. You really should start with Dovecot v1.2. Do you need to use some existing mail database or is it something completely new? I'm just wondering if my upcoming dbox filesystem abstraction layer would help you. Anyway, basically just go and look at lib-storage/mail-storage.h and mail-storage-private.h and mailbox-list.h and mailbox-list- private.h. Implement those using your RPC calls, using index_*() functions wherever possible, just like the filesystem backends. You can also make Dovecot use in-memory indexes only with your database, although it probably would be better to just create them on local disk and act as kind of a cache.
Re: [Dovecot] windows imap clients
On Sep 21, 2009, at 10:17 AM, Patrick Nagel wrote: On 2009-09-21 14:21, Timo Sirainen wrote: On Sep 21, 2009, at 7:07 AM, Charles Sprickman wrote: -searches across 2GB+ of mail are painfully slow, since it's all server-side You could improve this with http://wiki.dovecot.org/Plugins/FTS ... but note that FTS creates one index per mailbox (=folder), so with a huge amount of folders (which seems to be the case in your setup), it won't help you much. With Squat, yes. With Solr everything is in the same index. Timo, wasn't there a way to get around this limitation via virtual folders? I think with a virtual mailbox containing all mailboxes Squat also creates a single index for it. Solr is also optimized for virtual mailboxes, it won't even duplicate indexes for them. I'm not very happy with Squat in general. The index updating speed is way too slow. Needs a redesign some day.. Nowadays Cyrus can also do incremental Squat indexing, I guess I should see how they're doing it. :)
Re: [Dovecot] Maildir quota reporting
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Thanks for a kick in the right direction ;) command echo 1 getquotaroot inbox | USER=foo dovecot --exec-mail imap doesn't work as expected ( HOME=/home/foo; USER=foo; echo 1 getquotaroot inbox | dovecot - --exec-mail imap ) works much better Now, with quota_rule = ?:storage=0 and a test user with maildirsize content 102400S: the above command shows * PREAUTH [CAPABILITY IMAP4rev1 LITERAL+ SASL-IR LOG reportsIN-REFERRALS ID ENABLE SORT THREAD=REFERENCES THREAD=REFS MULTIAPPEND UNSELECT IDLE CHILDREN NAMESPACE UIDPLUS LIST-EXTENDED I18NLEVEL=1 CONDSTORE QRESYNC ESEARCH ESORT SEARCHRES WITHIN CONTEXT=SEARCH QUOTA] Logged in as foo * QUOTAROOT inbox User quota * QUOTA User quota (STORAGE 0 100) 1 OK Getquotaroot completed. result of that command in dovecot log with mail_debug = yes ubik IMAP(foo): : Loading modules from directory: /usr/lib/dovecot/imap ubik IMAP(foo): : Module loaded: /usr/lib/dovecot/imap/lib10_quota_plugin.so ubik IMAP(foo): : Module loaded: /usr/lib/dovecot/imap/lib11_imap_quota_plugin.so ubik IMAP(foo): : Effective uid=0, gid=0, home=/home/foo ubik IMAP(foo): : Quota root: name=User quota backend=maildir args= ubik IMAP(foo): : Quota rule: root=User quota mailbox=? bytes=0 messages=0 ubik IMAP(foo): : maildir: data=/home/foo/Maildir ubik IMAP(foo): : maildir++: root=/home/foo/Maildir, index=, control=, inbox=/home/foo/Maildir ubik IMAP(foo): : Namespace : Using permissions from /home/foo/Maildir: mode=0700 gid=-1 ubik IMAP(foo): : Connection closed bytes=21/383 Is it OK, that bytes=0 is reported? Timo Sirainen napsal(a): On Thu, 2009-09-03 at 10:57 +0200, David Kmoch wrote: and start dovecot again. The same result - TB still reports 20GB quota for user foo, the above echo command still reports 20971520, but(!), quota is actually unlimited for anyone. When I set some limit in ~foo/Maildir/maildirsize now, same values 20971520) are reported, although the limit works! Something weird is going on. What does it log about quota with mail_debug=yes? Finally, the question ;-) Where does that value (20971520) come from? Is it a feature or a bug? It's not a hard coded value for sure. Maybe it's reading a different maildirsize file. Maybe you have quota_rule=*:storage=20G coming from somewhere else. - -- David Kmoch Technical University of Liberec Department of Applied Informatics Halkova 6, 461 17 Liberec tel: +420 485 353 633 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEARECAAYFAkq3SPoACgkQsUUM+N2AWobH6QCcCj/nvlWidqmf6h+tyYNo90cN EigAnjLMK82jF8ysCyQ0tlblVpRPH1DQ =s1V3 -END PGP SIGNATURE- smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature
Re: [Dovecot] plugin development guide for non-FS backing store
On Sep 21, 2009, at 12:32 PM, Chang Song wrote: This is something completely new. We are connecting to our pre-existing custom-made mail server. IMAP needs to be plugged into the infrastructure. OK, so you do have some existing mails that need to be accessed. So basically we can simply use existing index_* since we need to have index files (on local fs) no matter what. Right. And even if you didn't use actual index files, the same index_*() functions will be useful for in-memory indexes. I saw dbox source file there. Is the layer stable (as far as API goes)? Tell me more about the abstraction layer. It probably won't be useful then, because if you have existing mails they won't be in dbox format. I guess you could maybe do some kind of translation on the fly, but that could just be more trouble than implementing your own storage backend. I'd probably start by implementing your own mailbox-list backend. Then you could see that IMAP's LIST, CREATE, DELETE, RENAME commands work. That should be somewhat easy to do. You could temporarily just use e.g. Maildir backend and: mail_location = maildir:~/Maildir:LAYOUT=rpc After that works, create rpc mail-storage as well. cydir might be a good an easy example. The biggest problem is the mailbox_sync part. It's easiest if you can just trust that the local index files are up- to-date, otherwise you somehow need to figure out what had changed in the mailbox and update the indexes.
Re: [Dovecot] Maildir quota reporting
On Sep 21, 2009, at 12:35 PM, David Kmoch wrote: ubik IMAP(foo): : Quota rule: root=User quota mailbox=? bytes=0 messages=0 .. Is it OK, that bytes=0 is reported? Yes, because it hasn't yet read maildirsize at that point.
Re: [Dovecot] windows imap clients
On 21.09.2009 8:07, Charles Sprickman wrote: They've been using Thunderbird for some time and I'm finding the following issues there: -searches across 2GB+ of mail are painfully slow, since it's all server-side TB3 does solve this problem with gloda, which index everything locally. -while the inbox is checked regularly and automatically, other folders are not unless the user manually checks them. getting tbird to do this involves a fairly non-intuitive process, and there's also the issue of making sure everyone actually adds the folders they need to watch TB3 by default doing this if I not mistaken. (I've changed lot things in my config when was on 2.0) -the client does not deal well with large amounts of mail in general - some operations give no feedback, like expanding large sub-folders or doing large copy/move operations. Activity manager in TB3 should help. app and starting the whole process again. dovecot deals with this more gracefully than the old server (Courier), but it's still an issue -offline operation would be handy sometimes, but tbird has no hybrid mode, and again, one must select every folder for offline access TB3 have offline mode enabled by default. What is hybrid mode?
Re: [Dovecot] Disconnected: Too many invalid IMAP commands
On Fri, Sep 18, 2009 at 11:03:48PM +1000, Noel Butler wrote: The problem however is many people very dangerously and wrongly consider that their beloved favourite distro package, is in fact the current stable and the only one that exists. I'm horrified by the number of people responsible for servers that wont use anything but an rpm or a deb, they simply refuse to use the source, even though its current and stable, far more so than that rpm/deb file at like 3 years out of date, and they have the nerve to get narky at you for not helping them *sigh* Well I can agree otherwise, but I can understand them too: they use (or even bought with support) a distribution to have a solution, otherwise they would be able to use own distro, compiling everything from source (hmm, gentoo?). The problem, that if they use many softwares and all of their makers say use a newer one soon they would find themselves with compiling _everything_ (the kernel itself too, soon, if it's based on an OS with open source kernel at least) from source, and maybe they don't want this, especially not with dozens of servers with their own managing tools, and so on. But otherwise fully agreed, I'm using most server softwares compiled from sources :) Just I tried to understand the other opinion too. Hopefully it was not highly off-topic here to tell this. [but it's also true that if they want the distributor's packages, they should ask for help from them maybe, because developers are focusing on the up-to-date versions and also next development ones, but not very old ones even patched by distributors with custom and/or backported patches ...]
Re: [Dovecot] Disconnected: Too many invalid IMAP commands
I guess I should mention that I don't really mind people asking questions when they're using an old version, but if it's a bug report there's a good chance the answer is then upgrade.
Re: [Dovecot] windows imap clients
On 9/21/2009, Charles Sprickman (sp...@bway.net) wrote: They've been using Thunderbird for some time and I'm finding the following issues there: I highly recommend you try the new Thunderbird 3 builds (current is b3 I believe)... It has mucho, much IMAP improvements, too many to go into... -- Best regards, Charles
Re: [Dovecot] windows imap clients
On 9/21/2009, Nikolay Shopik (sho...@inblock.ru) wrote: app and starting the whole process again. dovecot deals with this more gracefully than the old server (Courier), but it's still an issue -offline operation would be handy sometimes, but tbird has no hybrid mode, and again, one must select every folder for offline access TB3 have offline mode enabled by default. I hate this (because I have a LOT of mail and do NOT want to have to wait for hours for it all to download the first time I set up my account on a new PC), and have opened a Feature Request to NOT have this be the new default when TB3 ships: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=508276 Basically: 1. If an upgrade is performed, TB3 should honor the current offline settings - ie, if certain Accounts are set to full offline mode, TB3 should also set that account to full offline mode - but should also default to the new 'On Demand' mode, which may be the 'Hybrid' mode you mentioned. 2. If it is a new/clean install, the default should be 'On Demand', which means, messages are downloaded for offline use, but only when clicked on/selected. 3. Any folder can be set to full offline mode, and all others are set to 'On-Demand' by default. It appears the Devs have accepted this FR as 'will be done', but not sure about #3 (if these settings can be set on a perf older basis)... I sure hope they can, because I do have a few folders I really would like full offline mode for, but most I do not... -- Best regards, Charles
[Dovecot] Managesieve displays folder name (dovecot/sieve)
Hi,
I'm using Dovecot 1.2.4 with ManageSieve 0.11.9 and Sieve. All works
fine but users can subscribe to the folder dovecot/sieve which is
also displayed in the folders list.
protocols = imap managesieve
protocol managesieve {
listen = ip_address:2000
managesieve_logout_format = bytes ( in=%i : out=%o )
}
plugin {
sieve=~/Maildir/.dovecot.sieve
sieve_dir=/home/vmail/%d/%n/Maildir
}
In the maildir of the user I see this folders and files:
.Drafts/
.Sent
cur/
new/
temp/
sieve/
@.dovecot.sieve
ingo.sieve
The file ingo.sieve comes from Horde Ingo because users manage their
scripts with ingo.The symlink dovecot.sieve is correct and point to
ingo.sieve.
When users browse their available IMAP folders they'll see a folder
dovecot/sieve.
Can this be turned off or restricted with acl's? Without an symlink
all folders are displayed normally without the dovecot sieve folder.
Thanks.
Re: [Dovecot] Disconnected: Too many invalid IMAP commands
On 9/21/2009, Timo Sirainen (t...@iki.fi) wrote: I guess I should mention that I don't really mind people asking questions when they're using an old version, but if it's a bug report there's a good chance the answer is then upgrade. Yours is one of the most helpful and patient attitudes I've ever seen on a support list. That said, the biggest reason I see for upgrading often, especially for things like dovecot, is to take advantage of the performance improvements and new capabilities/options. Of course, eventually I'm sure dovecot will hit a wall where performance improvements will be negligible, but for now, the difference between the 1.0.x version and 1.2.x is so great that anyone who refuses to upgrade is simply missing out. Can't wait for full Single-Instance-Storage support in dbox! -- Best regards, Charles
Re: [Dovecot] shared/public mailbox doesn't exist
Eric Shubert wrote:
I have 3 servers running dovecot 1.0.10. 2 of them are configured with a
shared/public namespace, but I'm having trouble getting it to work on
the third, even with 2 working examples to go by. There's something I'm
missing, and I'm hoping that someone here can see/tell what it is.
I've created the maildir for sharing:
# cd /home/vpopmail/domains/mydomain.com
# maildirmake shared
# chown -R vpopmail:vchkpw shared
Then added the configuration to dovecot.conf:
# shared namespace
namespace shared {
separator = .
prefix = shared.
location = maildir:/home/vpopmail/domains/mydomain.com/shared
}
Restarted dovecot:
# service dovecot restart
When I try to subscribe to the shared namespace though with Outlook, I
get: Failed to subscribe the folder. Server responded: 'Mailbox doesn't
exist: shared'. When I try to subscribe with Squirrelmail I get:
ERROR: Could not complete request.
Query: SUBSCRIBE shared
Reason Given: [TRYCREATE] Mailbox doesn't exist: shared
I've tried various combinations of permissions to no avail.
Suggestions welcome. I'm at my wits end.
So I created a few subfolders.
# cd /home/vpopmail/domains/mydomain.com/shared
# maildirmake .sub1
# maildirmake .sub2
# chown vpopmail:vchkpw sub*
Voila, sort of. The main folder named 'shared' cannot be subscribed to,
however sub1 and sub2 can be subscribed to successfully.
Can someone explain why that is?
Thanks.
--
-Eric 'shubes'
Re: [Dovecot] Dovecot versions and index compatibility
On Sep 22, 2009, at 3:37 AM, Steven F Siirila wrote: I realize these are older versions, but I'd like to know specifically whether dovecot 1.1.6 and dovecot 1.1.8 are compatible index-wise. In particular, if we downgraded from 1.1.8 to 1.1.6 would there be any issues with doing so? I never break any compatibility between micro versions. So, no.
