Re: Password issue
On Oct 11, 2019, at 7:26 PM, @lbutlr via dovecot wrote: > > setting the explicit port for SMTP and.or IMAP advanced settings didn’t > change the port it actually tried connecting go until I removed the account > and re-added it. I'm sure you tried this before deleting/re-adding, but just in case not: you do have to close out of the settings window (or switch to another account) to get the settings to save... it should ask you to save when you do that. If you don't save -- for example, if you make the change and then try checking for mail while the Settings window is still open and unsaved -- then it will use the old settings. But if it was still using the old settings even after a save... that seems like a bug. Did you try quitting and restarting Mail, too, before deleting/re-adding the account? Just curious, in case I ever run into such a bug. Cheers. --- Amir
Re: Autoexpunge not working for Junk?
On Aug 14, 2019, at 1:45 PM, Timo Sirainen wrote: > > It's not very helpful to look at the indexes after the problem already > happened. Good point! I guess I'll empty out the mailboxes completely, touch a completely empty file, and see if the problem recurs. I'll shorten the autoexpunge time to 7 days so we don't have to wait a month to see if it recurs. Thanks. --- Amir
Re: Autoexpunge not working for Junk?
On Aug 14, 2019, at 1:26 PM, Timo Sirainen via dovecot wrote: > > It probably has something to do with using mbox format. Are the IMAP UIDs > changing unexpectedly? Errors/warnings logged related to it? Unfortunately > it's a rather troublesome mailbox format. There are likely some bugs in > Dovecot mbox code, but it's difficult and time consuming to try to reproduce > any of the bugs so I've mostly given up trying. I'm not getting any errors or warnings as far as I can tell, and I don't think the UIDs are changing unexpectedly -- messages are not getting re-downloaded randomly. That is, everything SEEMS to be working fine, as far as I can tell. So many people still use mbox that I hope we can fix this issue. I'm happy to help test or provide further debug output... this problem is certainly reproducible here, and it seems like lbutlr has a similar problem, so hopefully we can address at least this one... (I'm also happy to give you the Junk mailbox and index files... there's nothing sensitive in my spam!) Cheers. --- Amir
Re: Autoexpunge not working for Junk?
On Aug 12, 2019, at 8:54 PM, Thomas Zajic via dovecot wrote: > > * Amir Caspi via dovecot, 12.08.19 22:01 > >> [~]# doveadm mailbox status -u cepheid firstsaved Junk >> Junk firstsaved=1563154976 >> >> I can't tell how that timestamp corresponds to a human-readable date, >> however. > > [zlatko@disclosure:~]$ date -d @1563154976 > Mon Jul 15 03:42:56 CEST 2019 So this is the same timestamp as date.saved on message 1... as it should be, I guess. Except that, as I showed, the timestamps are definitely messed up somehow. The timestamps in my MUA (whether webmail or local mail app) show just fine... so something seems to be corrupted with the timestamps in the dovecot index file, I think. But the weird thing is that this is affecting all users, not just me. Hopefully we can figure this out. --- Amir
Re: Autoexpunge not working for Junk?
On Aug 12, 2019, at 12:18 AM, Sami Ketola via dovecot wrote: > > "1. What's the first mail's saved-timestamp? > doveadm fetch -u user date.saved mailbox Junk 1 Well... this is giving me strange results. For myself, when I run this command, I get: [~]# doveadm fetch -u cepheid date.saved mailbox Junk 1 date.saved: 2019-07-15 01:42:56 However, my actual Junk folder shows email from as far back as May 15. I checked this with webmail to ensure it wasn't some problem on my local MUA... this is definitely on the server. And yes, I checked the Received headers to make sure the dates were correctly represented (I didn't trust the Date header alone). HOWEVER... it looks like something is either corrupted or otherwise messed up, because messages #2 and 299 have identical timestamps: [~]# doveadm fetch -u cepheid date.saved mailbox Junk 2 date.saved: 2019-07-25 03:54:14 [~]# doveadm fetch -u cepheid date.saved mailbox Junk 299 date.saved: 2019-07-25 03:54:14 In fact, MANY messages have this same timestamp. I can't find the "true" first message timestamp, but the first one not in July is 107: [~]# doveadm fetch -u cepheid date.saved mailbox Junk 107 date.saved: 2019-05-29 05:57:55 This seems... not right. The results are similarly strange for my other users. > 2. That timestamp should also be the same in dovecot.list.index: > doveadm mailbox status -u user firstsaved Junk" For this I get: [~]# doveadm mailbox status -u cepheid firstsaved Junk Junk firstsaved=1563154976 I can't tell how that timestamp corresponds to a human-readable date, however. Cheers and thanks. --- Amir
Re: Autoexpunge not working for Junk?
On Aug 8, 2019, at 12:52 PM, Reio Remma via dovecot wrote: > > I have the autoexpunge settings defined inside protocol imap thus (and it > works): It looks like my definitions are outside the protocol, as this is the default in /etc/dovecot/conf.d/15-mailboxes.conf... MUST autoexpunge be declared within the imap protocol, even if the mailboxes themselves are declared outside of the protocol? Should the mailboxes be declared only within the protocol? Can I declare autoexpunge for the mailboxes within the imap protocol in 20-imap.conf while leaving the main mailbox declarations in 15-mailboxes.conf? That is, will the settings "stack" or can mailbox definitions occur only in one place? If autoexpunge can only be declared within the imap protocol -- folks who access email only through POP (and who never see Junk/Trash) will not have things auto-expunged. The Junk mailbox, in particular, is auto-populated by spamassassin via procmail so it will have messages even if the user never sees them... so it needs to be autoexpunged even if the user never logs in via imap. IMHO the setting should apply regardless of protocol, but is that actually the case in practice? Thanks! --- Amir
Re: Autoexpunge not working for Junk?
Hi all,
Might anyone have any idea about this issue? I can run a cron job if needed
but it seems like autoexpunge SHOULD be doing this automatically...
Thanks!
--- Amir
> On Jul 24, 2019, at 10:18 PM, Amir Caspi wrote:
>
> Hi all,
>
> I set up dovecot a couple of months ago and am having trouble getting
> autoexpunge=30d to work on my Trash and Junk mailboxes. Not sure why not
> because I'm not getting error messages in my log.
> Running "doveadm search -u mailbox Junk savedbefore 30d" shows
> me many messages (I've got messages back to mid-May, and a couple of other
> users have them back to early April, although if this setting were working,
> there should be nothing earlier than June 24). Running a manual doveadm
> expunge works fine... it's just autoexpunge that seems to not be running at
> all.
>
> I'm using sendmail as the MTA and procmail as the LDA, so dovecot is running
> purely for IMAP/POP service.
>
> Any help is much appreciated.
>
> Thanks!
>
> doveconf -n:
> # 2.2.36 (1f10bfa63): /etc/dovecot/dovecot.conf
> # OS: Linux 3.10.0-957.21.3.el7.x86_64 x86_64 CentOS Linux release 7.6.1810
> (Core)
> # Hostname: REDACTED
> auth_username_format = %Ln
> first_valid_uid = 1000
> mail_location = mbox:~/mail:INBOX=/var/spool/mail/%u
> mailbox_list_index = yes
> mbox_write_locks = fcntl
> namespace compat1 {
> alias_for =
> hidden = yes
> list = no
> location =
> prefix = mail/
> separator = /
> }
> namespace compat2 {
> alias_for =
> hidden = yes
> list = no
> location =
> prefix = ~/mail/
> separator = /
> }
> namespace compat3 {
> alias_for =
> hidden = yes
> list = no
> location =
> prefix = ~%u/mail/
> separator = /
> }
> namespace inbox {
> inbox = yes
> location =
> mailbox Archive {
>special_use = \Archive
> }
> mailbox "Deleted Messages" {
>autoexpunge = 30 days
>special_use = \Trash
> }
> mailbox Drafts {
>special_use = \Drafts
> }
> mailbox Junk {
>autoexpunge = 30 days
>special_use = \Junk
> }
> mailbox "Junk E-mail" {
>autoexpunge = 30 days
>special_use = \Junk
> }
> mailbox Sent {
>special_use = \Sent
> }
> mailbox "Sent Messages" {
>special_use = \Sent
> }
> mailbox Spam {
>autoexpunge = 30 days
>special_use = \Junk
> }
> mailbox Trash {
>autoexpunge = 30 days
>special_use = \Trash
> }
> prefix =
> separator = /
> }
> passdb {
> driver = pam
> }
> pop3_uidl_format = %08Xv%08Xu
> ssl_cert = # REDACTED
> ssl_cipher_list = # REDACTED
> ssl_dh_parameters_length = # REDACTED
> ssl_key = # hidden, use -P to show it
> ssl_prefer_server_ciphers = yes
> userdb {
> driver = passwd
> }
>
>
> --- Amir
>
Autoexpunge not working for Junk?
Hi all,
I set up dovecot a couple of months ago and am having trouble getting
autoexpunge=30d to work on my Trash and Junk mailboxes. Not sure why not
because I'm not getting error messages in my log.
Running "doveadm search -u mailbox Junk savedbefore 30d" shows
me many messages (I've got messages back to mid-May, and a couple of other
users have them back to early April, although if this setting were working,
there should be nothing earlier than June 24). Running a manual doveadm
expunge works fine... it's just autoexpunge that seems to not be running at all.
I'm using sendmail as the MTA and procmail as the LDA, so dovecot is running
purely for IMAP/POP service.
Any help is much appreciated.
Thanks!
doveconf -n:
# 2.2.36 (1f10bfa63): /etc/dovecot/dovecot.conf
# OS: Linux 3.10.0-957.21.3.el7.x86_64 x86_64 CentOS Linux release 7.6.1810
(Core)
# Hostname: REDACTED
auth_username_format = %Ln
first_valid_uid = 1000
mail_location = mbox:~/mail:INBOX=/var/spool/mail/%u
mailbox_list_index = yes
mbox_write_locks = fcntl
namespace compat1 {
alias_for =
hidden = yes
list = no
location =
prefix = mail/
separator = /
}
namespace compat2 {
alias_for =
hidden = yes
list = no
location =
prefix = ~/mail/
separator = /
}
namespace compat3 {
alias_for =
hidden = yes
list = no
location =
prefix = ~%u/mail/
separator = /
}
namespace inbox {
inbox = yes
location =
mailbox Archive {
special_use = \Archive
}
mailbox "Deleted Messages" {
autoexpunge = 30 days
special_use = \Trash
}
mailbox Drafts {
special_use = \Drafts
}
mailbox Junk {
autoexpunge = 30 days
special_use = \Junk
}
mailbox "Junk E-mail" {
autoexpunge = 30 days
special_use = \Junk
}
mailbox Sent {
special_use = \Sent
}
mailbox "Sent Messages" {
special_use = \Sent
}
mailbox Spam {
autoexpunge = 30 days
special_use = \Junk
}
mailbox Trash {
autoexpunge = 30 days
special_use = \Trash
}
prefix =
separator = /
}
passdb {
driver = pam
}
pop3_uidl_format = %08Xv%08Xu
ssl_cert = # REDACTED
ssl_cipher_list = # REDACTED
ssl_dh_parameters_length = # REDACTED
ssl_key = # hidden, use -P to show it
ssl_prefer_server_ciphers = yes
userdb {
driver = passwd
}
--- Amir
