Re: [Dovecot] Dovecot + Sieve - and passdb/userdb
On Fri, 2007-09-07 at 12:26 -0700, Daniel L. Miller wrote: > > If I were you, I'd make home and mail point to a different > directory, > > which could be as simple as home=/var/mail/%d/%n > > mail=/var/mail/%d/%n/Maildir. This way, dovecot will only look for mail > > in the $HOME/Maildir, but still can do administrative stuff in $HOME. > > > What "administrative stuff"? Currently sieve scripts, in future possibly some other files. Don't think "home" as a traditional user's home directory, but rather as a directory where Dovecot can safely create whatever files it wants without having them show up as mailboxes to user. signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: [Dovecot] Dovecot + Sieve - and passdb/userdb
On Fri, Sep 07, 2007 at 12:26:28PM -0700, Daniel L. Miller (DLM) wrote: DLM> Nils Vogels wrote: DLM> >Everything that would for some reason go into the users homedir, you DLM> >would be able to reach via Imap. DLM> > DLM> >If I were you, I'd make home and mail point to a different directory, DLM> >which could be as simple as home=/var/mail/%d/%n DLM> >mail=/var/mail/%d/%n/Maildir. This way, dovecot will only look for mail DLM> >in the $HOME/Maildir, but still can do administrative stuff in $HOME. DLM> > DLM> What "administrative stuff"? These directories are used exclusively for mail - if any user actually has a local DLM> account their home folders are located under "/home" - but I don't want that mixed with mail service at all. Administrative stuff such as sieve filters, possible error logs, textfiles that are used by other plugins such as vacation (lda-dupes), etc, etc. This way you won't be able to see those in your subscribe list, which is a good thing since they aren't mailboxes/dirs :) Gr, Nils -- Simple guidelines to happiness: Work like you don't need the money, love like your heart has never been broken and dance like no one can see you. pgpbWPK3RPLFs.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [Dovecot] Dovecot + Sieve - and passdb/userdb
Nils Vogels wrote:
Daniel L. Miller wrote on 7-9-2007 2:24:
userdb static {
args = uid=5000 gid=8 home=/var/mail/%d/%n mail=/var/mail/%d/%n
allow_all_users=yes
}
plugin {
sieve = sieve
}
Deliver + sieve is working great. By setting the sieve variable to
"sieve", a non-hidden file, it doesn't appear in the folder list. I
made a similar change to pysieved to use a non-hidden folder - in
combination with avelsieve and squirrelmail I now have a
user-maintainable server-side filter solution. Awesome!
Is there a hidden "gotcha" I'm missing here? It's doing exactly what
I want!
Everything that would for some reason go into the users homedir, you
would be able to reach via Imap.
If I were you, I'd make home and mail point to a different directory,
which could be as simple as home=/var/mail/%d/%n
mail=/var/mail/%d/%n/Maildir. This way, dovecot will only look for mail
in the $HOME/Maildir, but still can do administrative stuff in $HOME.
Grts,
Nils
What "administrative stuff"? These directories are used exclusively for
mail - if any user actually has a local account their home folders are
located under "/home" - but I don't want that mixed with mail service at
all.
--
Daniel
Re: [Dovecot] Dovecot + Sieve - and passdb/userdb
Daniel L. Miller wrote on 7-9-2007 2:24:
> userdb static {
>args = uid=5000 gid=8 home=/var/mail/%d/%n mail=/var/mail/%d/%n
> allow_all_users=yes
> }
> plugin {
>sieve = sieve
> }
>
> Deliver + sieve is working great. By setting the sieve variable to
> "sieve", a non-hidden file, it doesn't appear in the folder list. I
> made a similar change to pysieved to use a non-hidden folder - in
> combination with avelsieve and squirrelmail I now have a
> user-maintainable server-side filter solution. Awesome!
>
> Is there a hidden "gotcha" I'm missing here? It's doing exactly what
> I want!
Everything that would for some reason go into the users homedir, you
would be able to reach via Imap.
If I were you, I'd make home and mail point to a different directory,
which could be as simple as home=/var/mail/%d/%n
mail=/var/mail/%d/%n/Maildir. This way, dovecot will only look for mail
in the $HOME/Maildir, but still can do administrative stuff in $HOME.
Grts,
Nils
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Re: [Dovecot] Dovecot + Sieve - and passdb/userdb
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On Fri, 7 Sep 2007, Geert Hendrickx wrote:
Other meta-data, like .dovecot.lda-dupes (autoreplied senders db for the
vacation plugin) will still be visible as (corrupted) mailfolders in IMAP.
There was some mail from Timo about this topic, that it is a bad idea to
have home==maildir.
I'd try sort of:
userdb static {
args = uid=5000 gid=8 home=/var/mail/%d/%n/home mail=/var/mail/%d/%n
allow_all_users=yes
}
As far as I know, there is no need (just habbit) to have the Maildir
located below/in home.
Bye,
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Steffen Kaiser
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Re: [Dovecot] Dovecot + Sieve - and passdb/userdb
On Thu, Sep 06, 2007 at 05:24:08PM -0700, Daniel L. Miller wrote: > Deliver + sieve is working great. By setting the sieve variable to > "sieve", a non-hidden file, it doesn't appear in the folder list. I made > a similar change to pysieved to use a non-hidden folder - in combination > with avelsieve and squirrelmail I now have a user-maintainable > server-side filter solution. Awesome! > > Is there a hidden "gotcha" I'm missing here? It's doing exactly what I > want! Other meta-data, like .dovecot.lda-dupes (autoreplied senders db for the vacation plugin) will still be visible as (corrupted) mailfolders in IMAP. Geert
Re: [Dovecot] Dovecot + Sieve - and passdb/userdb
Thanks to everybody who chipped in. I came up with a workaround that
seems fairly simple - I'm actually worried that it's working too well!
I'm using a pure virtual user setup, storing a minimal amount in LDAP.
The whole mail tree is stored under /var/mail, and it's all owned by
vmail.mail. For purely selfish reasons, I'm doing everything possible
to avoid storing the mail folder in LDAP. So I came up with the following:
Postfix is capable of generating the mail folder path via LDAP
manipulation, and I was working on some wrapper scripts for delivery
agents - but since I've now totally converted to Dovecot's deliver agent
that's immaterial.
passdb ldap, just looking up the password.
userdb static {
args = uid=5000 gid=8 home=/var/mail/%d/%n mail=/var/mail/%d/%n
allow_all_users=yes
}
plugin {
sieve = sieve
}
Deliver + sieve is working great. By setting the sieve variable to
"sieve", a non-hidden file, it doesn't appear in the folder list. I
made a similar change to pysieved to use a non-hidden folder - in
combination with avelsieve and squirrelmail I now have a
user-maintainable server-side filter solution. Awesome!
Is there a hidden "gotcha" I'm missing here? It's doing exactly what I
want!
P.S. what's the "nice" parameter that can be listed in args?
--
Daniel
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