[Dovecot] POP3 Setup help - more info

2013-10-14 Thread Thomas I Higgins


Well my last email went unaswered - I assume because I didn't provide
enough detailed information.  Not a surprise if that is the case.  Anyway,
I also noted that there is no dovecot/pop3 process like there is for IMAP.
Not certain that is wrong, but I am guessing it is.  I am enclosing the
output from a doveconf -an query - hopefully you can see a screenshot,
otherwise I have to figure out how to get it in text form (work disables cp
 scp traffic).  Hopefully this will provide information that will help
define what I am missing?




Thanks again,

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Re: [Dovecot] POP3 Setup help - more info

2013-10-14 Thread /dev/rob0
On Mon, Oct 14, 2013 at 11:16:06AM -0400, Thomas I Higgins wrote:
 Well my last email went unaswered

Not so. You got two replies. If you are not going to read your 
replies, you cannot be helped.

 - I assume because I didn't provide enough detailed information.

Both replies noted this. One asked for clarification.

 Not a surprise if that is the case.  Anyway, I also noted that 
 there is no dovecot/pop3 process like there is for IMAP. Not 
 certain that is wrong, but I am guessing it is.  I am enclosing
 the output from a doveconf -an query - hopefully you can see a 
 screenshot,

No, I can't. (I could, but I won't, to be exact.) Please don't post 
binary attachments to public mailing lists.

 otherwise I have to figure out how to get it in text form

Yes, you should.

In addition to the ignored replies in the other thread, I'll ask 
this: why do you want to use POP3? IMAP can do everything POP3 can 
do, and it's superior in many ways. POP3 should have died out a 
decade ago.

 (work disables cp  scp traffic).  Hopefully this will provide 
 information that will help define what I am missing?
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Re: [Dovecot] POP3 Setup help - more info

2013-10-14 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 14.10.2013 18:58, schrieb /dev/rob0:
 In addition to the ignored replies in the other thread, I'll ask 
 this: why do you want to use POP3? IMAP can do everything POP3 can 
 do, and it's superior in many ways. POP3 should have died out a 
 decade ago

say who?

you want to provide storage, backup and responsibility for every
message all users ever received in their live and train them
how to move messages to local folders instead have a typical
POP3 setup with some days keep on server where the user must
not all the time remember that he should act before quota
warnings arrive?

well, you can do so, many others won't



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Re: [Dovecot] POP3 Setup help - more info

2013-10-14 Thread Steve Campbell

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otherwise I have to figure out how to get it in text form

Yes, you should.



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Try something like:

#!/bin/sh
( dovecot -an  echo) | /bin/mail -s Dovecot -an output 
y...@yourdomain.com


Put the above two lines in an executable file (chmod 777 or something 
like that and erase after you run it) and run the file. It should send 
the output of dovecot -an to the email address y...@yourdomain.com with 
a subject line of Dovecot -an output. You might have to use a 
different /bin/mail command depending on what your mail server is.


steve campbell



Re: [Dovecot] POP3 Setup help - more info

2013-10-14 Thread Noel Butler

On 15/10/2013 02:58, /dev/rob0 wrote:


In addition to the ignored replies in the other thread, I'll ask
this: why do you want to use POP3? IMAP can do everything POP3 can
do, and it's superior in many ways. POP3 should have died out a
decade ago.


Not sure what country he's in, but I'll comment on that comment :)
Some countries, disks are not cheap, for instance in Australia, disks 
and most hardware is on average over 200% more expensive, than the U.S., 
I've been given some pricing that makes it 350% dearer.


Most ISP's here, even the most largest ones, only offer pop3 - imap is 
reserved for those very few using webmail.


Of the very few that do offer imap, the take up rate over the years is 
negligible, such that it is not worth the effort, likely due to privacy 
which most aussies take seriously.


Although we are not as bad as the US with its publicised broad over 
reaching FISA warrants, it is still all too easy for law enforcement 
here to get warrants to secretly access your mail if on ISP servers, but 
bloody hard to do so if you use pop3 and have already d/l it to whatever 
device/client you choose to use.


Then there's the other law, yes, those obnoxious jackass interfering 
govt #$E# with nothing else to do but regulate everything but thin air 
(give em time they'll do that too), IOW, imap, providing a service where 
every single email is stored on servers, you are accountable for, and 
must be recovered, even if idiot1234 deletes a message by mistake and 
when you say, no, you deleted it tuff luck, you can be sued for their 
loss of data.


With pop3 that onus and risk is removed.



Re: [Dovecot] POP3 Setup help

2013-10-09 Thread Steffen Kaiser

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On Tue, 8 Oct 2013, Thomas I Higgins wrote:


our 1.x version using it and I though I had to.  Anyway, everything is
working perfectly with the services, except the mail is sending to the
wrong location for POP.  I am trying to use Maildir for both services, but
it keeps delivering the POP3 mail to /var/spool/mail/u% instead of to
Maildir as specified in the configuration files.  I have rechecked every


Next to Noel's advice, please explain what it keeps delivering the POP3 
mail shall mean. Who/what is it and why a mail retrieval protocol, like 
POP3, gets mail delivered?


Do you mean that Dovecot uses the wrong location, when an user pops 
messages via the POP3 protocol?


Kind regards,

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Steffen Kaiser

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[Dovecot] POP3 Setup help

2013-10-08 Thread Thomas I Higgins


I am lost as to what I am missing.  I am setting up dovecot 2.0.9 on a RHEL
6.4 machine as provided by my provider.  I have IMAP up and running, and I
have POP3 up and running.  Testing confirms this.  Also, if it makes a
difference, I enabled dovecot as my LDA.  Sendmail was setup as well due to
our 1.x version using it and I though I had to.  Anyway, everything is
working perfectly with the services, except the mail is sending to the
wrong location for POP.  I am trying to use Maildir for both services, but
it keeps delivering the POP3 mail to /var/spool/mail/u% instead of to
Maildir as specified in the configuration files.  I have rechecked every
setting at least twice and still can't see what I am doing wrong.  I
suppose I can use mbox and redirect after making the appropriate namespace
changes, but that has it's own potential drawbacks and seems more like a
kludge than the correct way around this (unless I misunderstand how it
should work).  Can anyone point me in the right direction on how to fix
this?

Thanks in advance,

Thomas Higgins

Re: [Dovecot] POP3 Setup help

2013-10-08 Thread Noel Butler

On 09/10/2013 03:40, Thomas I Higgins wrote:
I am lost as to what I am missing.  I am setting up dovecot 2.0.9 on a 
RHEL
6.4 machine as provided by my provider.  I have IMAP up and running, 
and I

have POP3 up and running.  Testing confirms this.  Also, if it makes a
difference, I enabled dovecot as my LDA.  Sendmail was setup as well 
due to

our 1.x version using it and I though I had to.  Anyway, everything is
working perfectly with the services, except the mail is sending to the
wrong location for POP.  I am trying to use Maildir for both services, 
but

it keeps delivering the POP3 mail to /var/spool/mail/u% instead of to
Maildir as specified in the configuration files.  I have rechecked 
every

setting at least twice and still can't see what I am doing wrong.  I
suppose I can use mbox and redirect after making the appropriate 
namespace
changes, but that has it's own potential drawbacks and seems more like 
a

kludge than the correct way around this (unless I misunderstand how it
should work).  Can anyone point me in the right direction on how to fix
this?

Thanks in advance,

Thomas Higgins


it's a lovely day here, but you must be far away and bad weather in 
between us, as my ESP doesnt seem to get through, so we'll have to 
revert to the old manual hard labour way by you executing doveconf -n , 
copy and pasting that output into a list reply.