Re: [Dovecot] Sieve problem: No vacation message when mail is addressed to an alias of the mailbox.

2009-07-15 Thread M. Bobkiewicz 

Pascal Volk schrieb:

On 07/13/2009 10:06 AM M. Bobkiewicz wrote:

Hi,
I?m facing here a wierd problem: We have a vacation messaging system 
using sieve. When activated the system forwards incomming messages to a 
given address and sents an out of office reply to the sender. This works 
like a charm when the mail is addressed to mail...@domain. When the 
incomming mail ist addressed to alias.to.mail...@domain the mail is 
delivered to the mailbox, it is forwarded to the given reciepient but 
there is no auto reply going out to the sender!
Our setup: CentOS 5.2 + postfix 2.5.6 + dovecot 1.1.11 with domain and 
accounts stored in a mysql database.

The script:

require ["fileinto", "vacation"];
redirect "mailb...@domain";
keep;
vacation
 :days 1
 :subject "Out of Office reply"
"
The auto reply text.

";

Any advice is welcome,



You have to add the alias addresses to the :addresses list. For example:

require ["fileinto", "vacation"];
redirect "mailb...@domain";
keep;
vacation
 :days 1
 :subject "Out of Office reply"
 :addresses ["1st.al...@domain", "2nd.al...@domain"]
"
The auto reply text.

";

See also: 




First of all thanks for the hint, it works. Second, nice to see the 
discussion, we did have the same here at my location when I told my boss 
about the reason for the error...


Regards,

  Mike

Re: [Dovecot] Sieve problem: No vacation message when mail is addressed to an alias of the mailbox.

2009-07-13 Thread Geert Hendrickx 
On Mon, Jul 13, 2009 at 03:42:31PM +0200, Steffen Kaiser wrote:
> On Mon, 13 Jul 2009, Geert Hendrickx wrote:
>> It's RFC recommended practice, see RFC 3834:
>
> I know. Just for this I re-calcalculated my email address stats.
>
> There is a SHOULD two times. I have replied on this somewhen in the past
> already. My email domain can be written in 488 ways plus some wicked others.
> Now add the 87 aliases I have, minus some list-specific plus some others.


This is not the case for the general user, so in general the advice is useful,
and avoids a lot of useles backscatter and mailing list pollution.


> Yes I am "able to specify a set of addresses to the responder which it will
> recognize as valid for that recipient."
>
> Yes, you can call this a mis-configuration, it won't bug me.


Feel free to hack away the limitation in the code.  You're not braking any
laws by doing so. ;-)


Geert


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Re: [Dovecot] Sieve problem: No vacation message when mail is addressed to an alias of the mailbox.

2009-07-13 Thread Steffen Kaiser 

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On Mon, 13 Jul 2009, Geert Hendrickx wrote:


It's RFC recommended practice, see RFC 3834:


I know. Just for this I re-calcalculated my email address stats.

There is a SHOULD two times. I have replied on this somewhen in the past 
already. My email domain can be written in 488 ways plus some wicked 
others. Now add the 87 aliases I have, minus some list-specific plus some 
others.


Yes I am "able to specify a set of addresses to the responder
which it will recognize as valid for that recipient."

Yes, you can call this a mis-configuration, it won't bug me.

Bye,

- -- 
Steffen Kaiser

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Re: [Dovecot] Sieve problem: No vacation message when mail is addressed to an alias of the mailbox.

2009-07-13 Thread Geert Hendrickx 
On Mon, Jul 13, 2009 at 02:21:39PM +0200, Steffen Kaiser wrote:
>> This is to avoid auto-replies on messages not addressed directly to you
>> (eg. sent via mailing lists).
>
> a) Mailing lists must set Precedence: bulk
>
> b) Many lists address you in To or CC.
>
> c) Why shall no vacation to be sent, if I'm BCC'ed ?
>
> d) You cannot enumerate all addresses for some accounts.
>


It's RFC recommended practice, see RFC 3834:


   -  Personal and Group responses whose purpose is to notify the sender
  of a message of a temporary absence of the recipient (e.g.,
  "vacation" and "out of the office" notices) SHOULD NOT be issued
  unless a valid address for the recipient is explicitly included in
  a recipient (e.g., To, Cc, Bcc, Resent-To, Resent-Cc, or Resent-
  Bcc) field of the subject message.  Since a recipient may have
  multiple addresses forwarded to the same mailbox, recipients
  SHOULD be able to specify a set of addresses to the responder
  which it will recognize as valid for that recipient.


Geert


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Re: [Dovecot] Sieve problem: No vacation message when mail is addressed to an alias of the mailbox.

2009-07-13 Thread Steffen Kaiser 

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On Mon, 13 Jul 2009, Geert Hendrickx wrote:


It's a feature, not a bug.


Yes, I hear it often - in many fields.


This is to avoid auto-replies on messages not addressed directly to you
(eg. sent via mailing lists).


a) Mailing lists must set Precedence: bulk

b) Many lists address you in To or CC.

c) Why shall no vacation to be sent, if I'm BCC'ed ?

d) You cannot enumerate all addresses for some accounts.

Bye,

- -- 
Steffen Kaiser

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Re: [Dovecot] Sieve problem: No vacation message when mail is addressed to an alias of the mailbox.

2009-07-13 Thread Geert Hendrickx 
On Mon, Jul 13, 2009 at 02:03:38PM +0200, Steffen Kaiser wrote:
> You have to enumerate all addresses in the ":address" tag of vacation.
> It's actually a real pain here.

It's a feature, not a bug.

This is to avoid auto-replies on messages not addressed directly to you
(eg. sent via mailing lists).

Geert

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Re: [Dovecot] Sieve problem: No vacation message when mail is addressed to an alias of the mailbox.

2009-07-13 Thread Steffen Kaiser 

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On Mon, 13 Jul 2009, M. Bobkiewicz wrote:


vacation
   :days 1
   :subject "Out of Office reply"
"
The auto reply text.

";

Any advice is welcome,


You have to enumerate all addresses in the ":address" tag of vacation. 
It's actually a real pain here.


Bye,

- -- 
Steffen Kaiser

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Re: [Dovecot] Sieve problem: No vacation message when mail is addressed to an alias of the mailbox.

2009-07-13 Thread Pascal Volk 
On 07/13/2009 10:06 AM M. Bobkiewicz wrote:
> Hi,
> I?m facing here a wierd problem: We have a vacation messaging system 
> using sieve. When activated the system forwards incomming messages to a 
> given address and sents an out of office reply to the sender. This works 
> like a charm when the mail is addressed to mail...@domain. When the 
> incomming mail ist addressed to alias.to.mail...@domain the mail is 
> delivered to the mailbox, it is forwarded to the given reciepient but 
> there is no auto reply going out to the sender!
> Our setup: CentOS 5.2 + postfix 2.5.6 + dovecot 1.1.11 with domain and 
> accounts stored in a mysql database.
> The script:
> 
> require ["fileinto", "vacation"];
> redirect "mailb...@domain";
> keep;
> vacation
>  :days 1
>  :subject "Out of Office reply"
> "
> The auto reply text.
> 
> ";
> 
> Any advice is welcome,
> 

You have to add the alias addresses to the :addresses list. For example:

require ["fileinto", "vacation"];
redirect "mailb...@domain";
keep;
vacation
 :days 1
 :subject "Out of Office reply"
 :addresses ["1st.al...@domain", "2nd.al...@domain"]
"
The auto reply text.

";

See also: 


Regards,
Pascal
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[Dovecot] Sieve problem: No vacation message when mail is addressed to an alias of the mailbox.

2009-07-13 Thread M. Bobkiewicz 

Hi,
I?m facing here a wierd problem: We have a vacation messaging system 
using sieve. When activated the system forwards incomming messages to a 
given address and sents an out of office reply to the sender. This works 
like a charm when the mail is addressed to mail...@domain. When the 
incomming mail ist addressed to alias.to.mail...@domain the mail is 
delivered to the mailbox, it is forwarded to the given reciepient but 
there is no auto reply going out to the sender!
Our setup: CentOS 5.2 + postfix 2.5.6 + dovecot 1.1.11 with domain and 
accounts stored in a mysql database.

The script:

require ["fileinto", "vacation"];
redirect "mailb...@domain";
keep;
vacation
:days 1
:subject "Out of Office reply"
"
The auto reply text.

";

Any advice is welcome,

Best regards,

 Mike