Re: [Dovecot] Dovecot - Gmail (via POP Mail Fetcher)

2009-04-20 Thread Rick Romero


Try imapsync - it seems to work fairly well with Gmail, except folders  
are screwy.

freshmeat.net/projects/imapsync/

Rick

Quoting Neil kngsp...@gmail.com:


I'm trying to move my entire email store from my Dovecot installation (which
I normally access via IMAP) into Gmail using Gmail's Mail Fetcher (which
functions over POP); and I'm running into two problems:
1. Gmail only imported 78 out of 1000+ mails in my inbox, which I'm taking
to mean that Dovecot is reporting only those 78 as new.  How can I get
Dovecot to send all mail over as new?

2. I can't be sure of this yet (since, due to #1, Gmail doesn't seem to be
downloading everything), but I'm pretty sure Dovecot is only reporting my
Inbox emails over POP; is there a way I can get all my mail, from all my
folders, to stream in over POP?

Thanks,
Neil

PS. I'm not leaving Dovecot entirely, I just need to have my mail in another
place in case something happens to my server...







Re: [Dovecot] Dovecot - Gmail (via POP Mail Fetcher)

2009-04-20 Thread Seth Mattinen
Rick Romero wrote:
 
 Try imapsync - it seems to work fairly well with Gmail, except folders
 are screwy.
 freshmeat.net/projects/imapsync/
 

That's because gmail doesn't implement folders, they use labels.

~Seth


Re: [Dovecot] Dovecot - Gmail (via POP Mail Fetcher)

2009-04-20 Thread Neil
imapsync is failing for me, with very odd errors; mostly failure to append
message to folder, or some such...  And unlike most of the failures with
imapsync, it didn't just error out (and give me the message with N messages
failed.), it just flat out crashes (it's outputting as if it's running, and
then suddenly drops me back to a prompt).
I kind of gave up on it for Gmail; but if you want to take a look at the
errors, I'd be happy to toss you the log.

I also tried offlineimap, but that kept trying to read from Gmail and write
local; I couldn't get it to start going the other direction.

And thus I've arrived to here...using the POP Mail Fetcher...

On Mon, Apr 20, 2009 at 12:40 PM, Rick Romero r...@havokmon.com wrote:


 Try imapsync - it seems to work fairly well with Gmail, except folders are
 screwy.
 freshmeat.net/projects/imapsync/

 Rick


 Quoting Neil kngsp...@gmail.com:

  I'm trying to move my entire email store from my Dovecot installation
 (which
 I normally access via IMAP) into Gmail using Gmail's Mail Fetcher (which
 functions over POP); and I'm running into two problems:
 1. Gmail only imported 78 out of 1000+ mails in my inbox, which I'm taking
 to mean that Dovecot is reporting only those 78 as new.  How can I get
 Dovecot to send all mail over as new?

 2. I can't be sure of this yet (since, due to #1, Gmail doesn't seem to be
 downloading everything), but I'm pretty sure Dovecot is only reporting my
 Inbox emails over POP; is there a way I can get all my mail, from all my
 folders, to stream in over POP?

 Thanks,
 Neil

 PS. I'm not leaving Dovecot entirely, I just need to have my mail in
 another
 place in case something happens to my server...







Re: [Dovecot] Dovecot - Gmail (via POP Mail Fetcher)

2009-04-20 Thread Seth Mattinen
Neil wrote:
 imapsync is failing for me, with very odd errors; mostly failure to append
 message to folder, or some such...  And unlike most of the failures with
 imapsync, it didn't just error out (and give me the message with N messages
 failed.), it just flat out crashes (it's outputting as if it's running, and
 then suddenly drops me back to a prompt).
 I kind of gave up on it for Gmail; but if you want to take a look at the
 errors, I'd be happy to toss you the log.
 

Yeah, gmail doesn't support folders. Their IMAP support is misleading.
Try dumping it all to INBOX.

~Seth


Re: [Dovecot] Dovecot - Gmail (via POP Mail Fetcher)

2009-04-20 Thread Rick Romero

Quoting Seth Mattinen se...@rollernet.us:


Neil wrote:

imapsync is failing for me, with very odd errors; mostly failure to append
message to folder, or some such...  And unlike most of the failures with
imapsync, it didn't just error out (and give me the message with N messages
failed.), it just flat out crashes (it's outputting as if it's running, and
then suddenly drops me back to a prompt).
I kind of gave up on it for Gmail; but if you want to take a look at the
errors, I'd be happy to toss you the log.



Yeah, gmail doesn't support folders. Their IMAP support is misleading.
Try dumping it all to INBOX.



In my experience mail will still be transferred to Gmail - it just  
gets stuck under an 'IMAP - foldername' label instead of a real  
synced folder.  Maybe they've broken it more since :)






Re: [Dovecot] Dovecot - Gmail (via POP Mail Fetcher)

2009-04-20 Thread Neil
On Mon, Apr 20, 2009 at 1:09 PM, Rick Romero r...@havokmon.com wrote:

 Quoting Seth Mattinen se...@rollernet.us:

  Neil wrote:

 imapsync is failing for me, with very odd errors; mostly failure to
 append
 message to folder, or some such...  And unlike most of the failures with
 imapsync, it didn't just error out (and give me the message with N
 messages
 failed.), it just flat out crashes (it's outputting as if it's running,
 and
 then suddenly drops me back to a prompt).
 I kind of gave up on it for Gmail; but if you want to take a look at the
 errors, I'd be happy to toss you the log.


 Yeah, gmail doesn't support folders. Their IMAP support is misleading.
 Try dumping it all to INBOX.


 In my experience mail will still be transferred to Gmail - it just gets
 stuck under an 'IMAP - foldername' label instead of a real synced folder.
  Maybe they've broken it more since :)


I can make folders on Gmail using a normal IMAP client (but yeah, it's not
always pretty), so I don't think that's the problem.

But it seems like they've broken _something_, because no tool I use works
consistently with their server, it seems (as far as upload...downloading
seems to work fine...).

Ugh, I wished Google used Dovecot too...


Re: [Dovecot] Dovecot - Gmail (via POP Mail Fetcher)

2009-04-20 Thread Eduardo M KALINOWSKI
Neil wrote:
 I'm trying to move my entire email store from my Dovecot installation (which
 I normally access via IMAP) into Gmail using Gmail's Mail Fetcher (which
 functions over POP); and I'm running into two problems:
 1. Gmail only imported 78 out of 1000+ mails in my inbox, which I'm taking
 to mean that Dovecot is reporting only those 78 as new.  How can I get
 Dovecot to send all mail over as new?

 2. I can't be sure of this yet (since, due to #1, Gmail doesn't seem to be
 downloading everything), but I'm pretty sure Dovecot is only reporting my
 Inbox emails over POP; is there a way I can get all my mail, from all my
 folders, to stream in over POP?
   

POP3 only accesses INBOX, so if the e-mails are in other folders, they
are not visible. Some time ago someone proposed a solution (I guess
using a virtual folder, but I'm not sure), try searching the archives.

-- 
It's bad enough that life is a rat-race, but why do the rats always have to win?

Eduardo M KALINOWSKI
edua...@kalinowski.com.br