Re: [Dovecot] Making shared folders "unmovable"

2011-01-13 Thread Dave
Well, I just noticed this in my logs after I re-loaded the latest 
Dovecot config I tried:


Jan 13 15:09:45 mail dovecot: SIGHUP received - reloading configuration
Jan 13 15:09:45 mail dovecot: read(imap dump-capability process) failed: 
Interrupted system call

Jan 13 15:09:45 mail dovecot: Invalid configuration, keeping old one
Jan 13 15:09:45 mail dovecot: child 2085 (unknown) returned error 82 
(Internal logging error)


It's apparently been doing this every time I've reloaded the config, so 
this is probably why none of my changes with the ACLs are working. :/  
Any thoughts on what could be causing this kind of error??  Does that 
error just basically mean something's set wrong somewhere in dovecot.conf?


David



Re: [Dovecot] Making shared folders "unmovable"

2011-01-12 Thread Gregory Finch
On 2011-01-12 1:10 PM, Dave wrote:
> > I have this in my public namespace, and it works well:
> > ...
> > What does your dovecot -n say?
>
> I assume these are the lines you're looking for from dovecot -n?
>
> mail_plugins: acl imap_acl
> plugin:
>   acl: vfile
>
> Also, I just saw when I ran that command that it's Dovecot 1.1
> series.  Not 1.2 series.  My bad. :(  Will that make a difference?  I
> also am not super-familiar with namespaces, so I don't know that any
> are set up in any way.  I'll look at the documentation for namespaces.
>
> David
>
It is supposed to still work with 1.1, you just don't have the ability
to use IMAP to change acls.

One thing to check is that the dovecot-acl file you created has the same
owner and permissions as the folder in which it resides.

Also note that you will need the dovecot-acl file in every folder that
you want it to apply to, including the sub-folders. ACLs are only
inherited by new folders from their parent when they are created.

-Greg



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Re: [Dovecot] Making shared folders "unmovable"

2011-01-12 Thread Dave

> I have this in my public namespace, and it works well:
> ...
> What does your dovecot -n say?

I assume these are the lines you're looking for from dovecot -n?

mail_plugins: acl imap_acl
plugin:
  acl: vfile

Also, I just saw when I ran that command that it's Dovecot 1.1 series.  
Not 1.2 series.  My bad. :(  Will that make a difference?  I also am not 
super-familiar with namespaces, so I don't know that any are set up in 
any way.  I'll look at the documentation for namespaces.


David



Re: [Dovecot] Making shared folders "unmovable"

2011-01-12 Thread Gregory Finch
On 2011-01-12 9:41 AM, Dave wrote:
> > By default Dovecot doesn't allow using the IMAP "anyone" or
> > "authenticated" identifier, because it would be an easy way to spam
> > other users in the system. If you wish to allow it, set:
> >
> > plugin {
> >   acl_anyone = allow
> > }
>
> Greg, thanks for your reply, I missed that in the wiki about the
> "anyone" identifier.  I will try that setting that you mention, BUT I
> don't know that it will work because before I tried using "anyone" as
> the identifier I tried using the username I was logging into the
> account with (using the "user=" parameter in place of "anyone"), and
> that didn't work either. :(
>
> ...
>
> OK, I tried it with the username I use to login to the account instead
> of "anyone", and with "owner" as Timo suggested (thank you as well),
> and neither of those worked.  My dovecot-acl contained "user=dave
> lrwstipea" in the first case and "owner lrwstipea" in the second, and
> neither is making a difference, I can still rename/delete/etc that
> folder.  Any other thoughts??  I don't need to restart dovecot or
> reload the config or anything if I make a change to the dovecot-acl
> file do I?
>
> David
>
>
I have this in my public namespace, and it works well:

authenticated lrs
user=gfinch lrwstipekxa

What does your dovecot -n say?

-Greg



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Re: [Dovecot] Making shared folders "unmovable"

2011-01-12 Thread Dave

> By default Dovecot doesn't allow using the IMAP "anyone" or
> "authenticated" identifier, because it would be an easy way to spam
> other users in the system. If you wish to allow it, set:
>
> plugin {
>   acl_anyone = allow
> }

Greg, thanks for your reply, I missed that in the wiki about the 
"anyone" identifier.  I will try that setting that you mention, BUT I 
don't know that it will work because before I tried using "anyone" as 
the identifier I tried using the username I was logging into the account 
with (using the "user=" parameter in place of "anyone"), and that didn't 
work either. :(


...

OK, I tried it with the username I use to login to the account instead 
of "anyone", and with "owner" as Timo suggested (thank you as well), and 
neither of those worked.  My dovecot-acl contained "user=dave lrwstipea" 
in the first case and "owner lrwstipea" in the second, and neither is 
making a difference, I can still rename/delete/etc that folder.  Any 
other thoughts??  I don't need to restart dovecot or reload the config 
or anything if I make a change to the dovecot-acl file do I?


David




Re: [Dovecot] Making shared folders "unmovable"

2011-01-12 Thread Timo Sirainen
On 12.1.2011, at 1.37, Dave wrote:

> Well, I've tried ACLs before and had no success, which I remembered when 
> looking back through the config file to try it now. :)  But, perhaps I'm 
> missing something obvious!  Here's what I've done: I enabled the ACL features 
> in IMAP with "mail_plugins = acl imap_acl" under the "protocol imap {" 
> section, as instructed in the wiki.  I also added "acl = vfile" under the 
> "plugin {" section.  I HUPped Dovecot so as to re-read the config, and put a 
> "dovecot-acl" in Maildir/.TestFolder that contains 1 line:
> anyone lrwstipea

owner, not anyone



Re: [Dovecot] Making shared folders "unmovable"

2011-01-12 Thread Gregory Finch
On 2011-01-11 3:37 PM, Dave wrote:
> Well, I've tried ACLs before and had no success, which I remembered
> when looking back through the config file to try it now. :)  But,
> perhaps I'm missing something obvious!  Here's what I've done: I
> enabled the ACL features in IMAP with "mail_plugins = acl imap_acl"
> under the "protocol imap {" section, as instructed in the wiki.  I
> also added "acl = vfile" under the "plugin {" section.  I HUPped
> Dovecot so as to re-read the config, and put a "dovecot-acl" in
> Maildir/.TestFolder that contains 1 line:
> anyone lrwstipea
>
> So, in theory, that should do it right?  No "x" and no "k" permissions
> in that list for "anyone", yet I can still delete, move, and rename
> the "TestFolder" folder (in which that dovecot-acl file resides, on
> disk in the folder above) through my mail client.  What am I missing? 
> Clearly something! :)  (I haven't tried restarting Dovecot yet as
> there are some people using the mailbox at the moment, fwiw.)
> Dave
>
>
> On 1/11/2011 4:11 PM, Willie Gillespie wrote:
>> Jose Celestino wrote:
>>> You may be able to do that with ACLs.
>>
>> Jose is right.  Take away the x and k rights with ACLs.
>>
>>
From the WIKI at http://wiki1.dovecot.org/SharedMailboxes/Shared

By default Dovecot doesn't allow using the IMAP "anyone" or
"authenticated" identifier, because it would be an easy way to spam
other users in the system. If you wish to allow it, set:

plugin {
  acl_anyone = allow
}

Note that you can also do this only for some users by returning the acl_anyone 
as userdb extra field . 

-Greg




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Re: [Dovecot] Making shared folders "unmovable"

2011-01-11 Thread Dave
Well, I've tried ACLs before and had no success, which I remembered when 
looking back through the config file to try it now. :)  But, perhaps I'm 
missing something obvious!  Here's what I've done: I enabled the ACL 
features in IMAP with "mail_plugins = acl imap_acl" under the "protocol 
imap {" section, as instructed in the wiki.  I also added "acl = vfile" 
under the "plugin {" section.  I HUPped Dovecot so as to re-read the 
config, and put a "dovecot-acl" in Maildir/.TestFolder that contains 1 line:

anyone lrwstipea

So, in theory, that should do it right?  No "x" and no "k" permissions 
in that list for "anyone", yet I can still delete, move, and rename the 
"TestFolder" folder (in which that dovecot-acl file resides, on disk in 
the folder above) through my mail client.  What am I missing?  Clearly 
something! :)  (I haven't tried restarting Dovecot yet as there are some 
people using the mailbox at the moment, fwiw.)

Dave


On 1/11/2011 4:11 PM, Willie Gillespie wrote:

Jose Celestino wrote:

You may be able to do that with ACLs.


Jose is right.  Take away the x and k rights with ACLs.




Re: [Dovecot] Making shared folders "unmovable"

2011-01-11 Thread Willie Gillespie

Jose Celestino wrote:

On Ter, 2011-01-11 at 12:27 -0600, Dave wrote:
I have set up an area of shared folders with Dovecot 1.2 that is 
accessed by several people (by way of one account, and everyone who logs 
in sees these same folders), and the only problem with this setup is 
that occasionally somebody moves one of the folders underneath another 
folder or somewhere else in the folder structure, and this sometimes 
disrupts some automatic procmail filters and the like.


Is there a way to keep folders in a shared setup such as this "static" 
or "unmovable" so that the users can't disrupt the structure?  Like, 
where the folder structure itself can't be changed, but new messages can 
still come in to the folders?




You may be able to do that with ACLs.


Jose is right.  Take away the x and k rights with ACLs.



Re: [Dovecot] Making shared folders "unmovable"

2011-01-11 Thread Jose Celestino
On Ter, 2011-01-11 at 12:27 -0600, Dave wrote:
> I have set up an area of shared folders with Dovecot 1.2 that is 
> accessed by several people (by way of one account, and everyone who logs 
> in sees these same folders), and the only problem with this setup is 
> that occasionally somebody moves one of the folders underneath another 
> folder or somewhere else in the folder structure, and this sometimes 
> disrupts some automatic procmail filters and the like.
> 
> Is there a way to keep folders in a shared setup such as this "static" 
> or "unmovable" so that the users can't disrupt the structure?  Like, 
> where the folder structure itself can't be changed, but new messages can 
> still come in to the folders?
> 

You may be able to do that with ACLs.

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