Re: How to create sent items, drafts and so on
Hi, K,
Thanks for your feedback again! BTW, I tried to copy mail file from sent
item folder which is default folder of Outlook 2013 to "Sent Messages"
folder of Dovecot. I can see the mail files in this folder, but I don't
see them under .Sent Messages folder like "new", "cur" and "tmp" folders.
You have any idea where the mail files are copied??
rwx-- 5 vmail vmail 108 3月 17 19:55 .Drafts
drwx-- 5 vmail vmail 108 3月 17 19:55 .Junk
drwx-- 5 vmail vmail 108 3月 17 19:55 .Sent
drwx-- 5 vmail vmail 108 3月 17 19:55 .Sent Messages
drwx-- 5 vmail vmail 135 3月 17 19:55 .Trash
drwx-- 2 vmail vmail 6 3月 17 19:55 cur
-rw--- 1 vmail vmail 51 3月 17 19:55 dovecot-uidlist
-rw--- 1 vmail vmail 8 3月 17 19:55 dovecot-uidvalidity
-r--r--r-- 1 vmail vmail 0 3月 17 19:55 dovecot-uidvalidity.5c8e27ae
-rw--- 1 vmail vmail 312 3月 17 19:55 dovecot.index.log
-rw--- 1 vmail vmail 120 3月 17 19:55 dovecot.mailbox.log
drwx-- 2 vmail vmail 6 3月 17 19:55 new
-rw--- 1 vmail vmail 37 3月 17 19:55 subscriptions
drwx-- 2 vmail vmail 6 3月 17 19:55 tmp
Mmm.. I actually changed the directory to .Sent Messages, but I'm now in
the .Sent directory...
[root@mail .Sent]# pwd
/var/spool/virtual/landscapes-photography.com/koshiro.sakuma/Maildir/.Sent
Regards,
2019年3月17日(日) 19:58 Kostya Vasilyev via dovecot :
> Koshiro,
>
> ---
> Now, I changed Outlook setting of imap and I can see Draft, Trash, Sent
> and Sent Messages folders and I can see the mail files in there. However,
> I don't see mail files in the "cur or new" folder where is under .Sent
> Messages folder.
> ---
>
> Maybe Outlook isn't going to upload all old pre-existing Sent (etc)
> messages to server just from your setting the right server folder.
>
> Have you tried sending a *new* test message from Outlook ("new" - after
> you changed Outlook setting for Sent folder) - to see if it gets uploaded?
>
> If it does, but the old pre-existing messages don't - I would think you'd
> need to find a way to make Outlook upload *all* (old, pre-existing) Sent
> messages to server?
>
> -- K
>
> On Sun, Mar 17, 2019, at 1:49 PM, Sakuma, Koshiro via dovecot wrote:
>
> Hi, Aki and Kostya,
>
> Thank you for your feedback. Well, I have set "auto = subscribe" in the
> 15-mailboxes.conf file. Now, I changed Outlook setting of imap and I can
> see Draft, Trash, Sent and Sent Messages folders and I can see the mail
> files in there. However, I don't see mail files in the "cur or new"
> folder where is under .Sent Messages folder.
>
> 1. The drafts, trash, Junk, Sent and Sent Massages folders are in
> English. Can I change to other language in the 15-mailboxes.conf file?
> Actually, I tried to change it, but dovecot doesn't start due to
> "unrecognized" parameter.
>
> 2. Maybe my configuration of 15-mailboxes.conf is wrong. The current
> parameter of sent message is as follow.
> mailbox Sent {
> special_use = \Sent
> auto = subscribe
> }
> mailbox "Sent Messages" {
> special_use = \Sent
> auto = subscribe
> }
>
> Regards,
>
> 2019年3月17日(日) 19:18 Aki Tuomi :
>
> Forgot to mention, you can also use 'auto=subscribe' to create & subscribe
> to the folders automatically.
>
> Aki
>
> > On 17 March 2019 12:17 Aki Tuomi via dovecot
> wrote:
> >
> >
> > You can also tell dovecot to create the folders:
> >
> >
> > namespace {
> > inbox = yes
> > mailbox Sent {
> > auto=create
> > }
> > mailbox Trash {
> > auto=create
> > }
> > mailbox Drafts {
> > auto=create
> > }
> >
> > ...
> > }
> >
> > Aki
> >
> > > On 17 March 2019 11:38 Sakuma, Koshiro via dovecot <
> dovecot@dovecot.org> wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > Hi, Yassine,
> > >
> > > Yes, you are right that these folders are created by MUA which is
> Outlook 2013. I can see "Inbox, sent items, drafts, deleted" box in the
> mail client.
> > > This is OK. However, I only can take backup "inbox" mail of dovecot
> side. I mean, the backup can be taken from /Maildir/cur directory.
> > > I would like to take backup from "Sent, Draft" boxes which are dovecot
> mail boxed. I need to take backup MS outlook of "ost" file for sent item,
> draft mail box separately in that case. Or it is not possible way to take
> these mail boxed on dovecot?
> > >
> > > Regards,
> > >
> > >
> > > 2019年3月17日(日) 17:45 Yassine Chaouche via dovecot >:
> > > > On 3/17/19 8:59 AM, Sakuma, Koshiro via dovecot wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Hello,
> > > > >
> > > > > I've setup Dovecot and Postfix mailing systems. The protocol is
> imap. Now, I've realized that there are no "sent items, drafts" boxed under
> Maildir for each users. I would like to take back up Inbox, sent items,
> draft boxes. For sent items box, it seems to be stored in outlook client
> file which is "ost". The configuration parameters and version is as
> follows. I can see that "namespace" has been configured. How can I setup to
> see these folders?
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
Re: How to create sent items, drafts and so on
Koshiro,
---
Now, I changed Outlook setting of imap and I can see Draft, Trash, Sent and
Sent Messages folders and I can see the mail files in there. However, I don't
see mail files in the "cur or new" folder where is under .Sent Messages folder.
---
Maybe Outlook isn't going to upload all old pre-existing Sent (etc) messages to
server just from your setting the right server folder.
Have you tried sending a *new* test message from Outlook ("new" - after you
changed Outlook setting for Sent folder) - to see if it gets uploaded?
If it does, but the old pre-existing messages don't - I would think you'd need
to find a way to make Outlook upload *all* (old, pre-existing) Sent messages to
server?
-- K
On Sun, Mar 17, 2019, at 1:49 PM, Sakuma, Koshiro via dovecot wrote:
> Hi, Aki and Kostya,
>
> Thank you for your feedback. Well, I have set "auto = subscribe" in the
> 15-mailboxes.conf file. Now, I changed Outlook setting of imap and I can see
> Draft, Trash, Sent and Sent Messages folders and I can see the mail files in
> there. However, I don't see mail files in the "cur or new" folder where is
> under .Sent Messages folder.
>
> 1. The drafts, trash, Junk, Sent and Sent Massages folders are in English.
> Can I change to other language in the 15-mailboxes.conf file?
> Actually, I tried to change it, but dovecot doesn't start due to
> "unrecognized" parameter.
>
> 2. Maybe my configuration of 15-mailboxes.conf is wrong. The current
> parameter of sent message is as follow.
> mailbox Sent {
> special_use = \Sent
> auto = subscribe
> }
> mailbox "Sent Messages" {
> special_use = \Sent
> auto = subscribe
> }
>
> Regards,
>
> 2019年3月17日(日) 19:18 Aki Tuomi :
>> Forgot to mention, you can also use 'auto=subscribe' to create & subscribe
>> to the folders automatically.
>>
>> Aki
>>
>> > On 17 March 2019 12:17 Aki Tuomi via dovecot wrote:
>> >
>> >
>> > You can also tell dovecot to create the folders:
>> >
>> >
>> > namespace {
>> > inbox = yes
>> > mailbox Sent {
>> > auto=create
>> > }
>> > mailbox Trash {
>> > auto=create
>> > }
>> > mailbox Drafts {
>> > auto=create
>> > }
>> >
>> > ...
>> > }
>> >
>> > Aki
>> >
>> > > On 17 March 2019 11:38 Sakuma, Koshiro via dovecot
>> > > wrote:
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > Hi, Yassine,
>> > >
>> > > Yes, you are right that these folders are created by MUA which is
>> > > Outlook 2013. I can see "Inbox, sent items, drafts, deleted" box in the
>> > > mail client.
>> > > This is OK. However, I only can take backup "inbox" mail of dovecot
>> > > side. I mean, the backup can be taken from /Maildir/cur directory.
>> > > I would like to take backup from "Sent, Draft" boxes which are dovecot
>> > > mail boxed. I need to take backup MS outlook of "ost" file for sent
>> > > item, draft mail box separately in that case. Or it is not possible way
>> > > to take these mail boxed on dovecot?
>> > >
>> > > Regards,
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > 2019年3月17日(日) 17:45 Yassine Chaouche via dovecot :
>> > > > On 3/17/19 8:59 AM, Sakuma, Koshiro via dovecot wrote:
>> > > >
>> > > > > Hello,
>> > > > >
>> > > > > I've setup Dovecot and Postfix mailing systems. The protocol is
>> > > > > imap. Now, I've realized that there are no "sent items, drafts"
>> > > > > boxed under Maildir for each users. I would like to take back up
>> > > > > Inbox, sent items, draft boxes. For sent items box, it seems to be
>> > > > > stored in outlook client file which is "ost". The configuration
>> > > > > parameters and version is as follows. I can see that "namespace" has
>> > > > > been configured. How can I setup to see these folders?
>> > > > >
>> > > > >
>> > > > >
>> > > > >
>> > > > > Thank you for your support!
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > > I believe these folders (sent, draft etc.) are created by the MUA on
>> > > > first IMAP connexion. Can you confirm that these folders are created
>> > > > when you connect to your IMAP account for the first via a mail client
>> > > > ?
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > > If you are accessing your e-mail via a webmail, make sure to configure
>> > > > your webmail to create those folders for you. For example, with
>> > > > roundcube the config is :
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > > $config['drafts_mbox'] = 'INBOX.Drafts';
>> > > > $config['junk_mbox'] = 'INBOX.Junk';
>> > > > $config['sent_mbox'] = 'INBOX.Sent';
>> > > > $config['trash_mbox'] = 'INBOX.Trash';
>> > > > $config['create_default_folders'] = true;
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > > Yassine.
>> > > >
>> > > >
Re: How to create sent items, drafts and so on
Hi, Aki and Kostya,
Thank you for your feedback. Well, I have set "auto = subscribe" in the
15-mailboxes.conf file. Now, I changed Outlook setting of imap and I can
see Draft, Trash, Sent and Sent Messages folders and I can see the mail
files in there. However, I don't see mail files in the "cur or new"
folder where is under .Sent Messages folder.
1. The drafts, trash, Junk, Sent and Sent Massages folders are in English.
Can I change to other language in the 15-mailboxes.conf file?
Actually, I tried to change it, but dovecot doesn't start due to
"unrecognized" parameter.
2. Maybe my configuration of 15-mailboxes.conf is wrong. The current
parameter of sent message is as follow.
mailbox Sent {
special_use = \Sent
auto = subscribe
}
mailbox "Sent Messages" {
special_use = \Sent
auto = subscribe
}
Regards,
2019年3月17日(日) 19:18 Aki Tuomi :
> Forgot to mention, you can also use 'auto=subscribe' to create & subscribe
> to the folders automatically.
>
> Aki
>
> > On 17 March 2019 12:17 Aki Tuomi via dovecot
> wrote:
> >
> >
> > You can also tell dovecot to create the folders:
> >
> >
> > namespace {
> > inbox = yes
> > mailbox Sent {
> > auto=create
> > }
> > mailbox Trash {
> > auto=create
> > }
> > mailbox Drafts {
> > auto=create
> > }
> >
> > ...
> > }
> >
> > Aki
> >
> > > On 17 March 2019 11:38 Sakuma, Koshiro via dovecot <
> dovecot@dovecot.org> wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > Hi, Yassine,
> > >
> > > Yes, you are right that these folders are created by MUA which is
> Outlook 2013. I can see "Inbox, sent items, drafts, deleted" box in the
> mail client.
> > > This is OK. However, I only can take backup "inbox" mail of dovecot
> side. I mean, the backup can be taken from /Maildir/cur directory.
> > > I would like to take backup from "Sent, Draft" boxes which are dovecot
> mail boxed. I need to take backup MS outlook of "ost" file for sent item,
> draft mail box separately in that case. Or it is not possible way to take
> these mail boxed on dovecot?
> > >
> > > Regards,
> > >
> > >
> > > 2019年3月17日(日) 17:45 Yassine Chaouche via dovecot >:
> > > > On 3/17/19 8:59 AM, Sakuma, Koshiro via dovecot wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Hello,
> > > > >
> > > > > I've setup Dovecot and Postfix mailing systems. The protocol is
> imap. Now, I've realized that there are no "sent items, drafts" boxed under
> Maildir for each users. I would like to take back up Inbox, sent items,
> draft boxes. For sent items box, it seems to be stored in outlook client
> file which is "ost". The configuration parameters and version is as
> follows. I can see that "namespace" has been configured. How can I setup to
> see these folders?
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Thank you for your support!
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > I believe these folders (sent, draft etc.) are created by the MUA on
> first IMAP connexion. Can you confirm that these folders are created when
> you connect to your IMAP account for the first via a mail client ?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > If you are accessing your e-mail via a webmail, make sure to
> configure your webmail to create those folders for you. For example, with
> roundcube the config is :
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > $config['drafts_mbox']= 'INBOX.Drafts';
> > > > $config['junk_mbox'] = 'INBOX.Junk';
> > > > $config['sent_mbox'] = 'INBOX.Sent';
> > > > $config['trash_mbox'] = 'INBOX.Trash';
> > > > $config['create_default_folders'] = true;
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Yassine.
> > > >
> > > >
>
Re: How to create sent items, drafts and so on
Forgot to mention, you can also use 'auto=subscribe' to create & subscribe to
the folders automatically.
Aki
> On 17 March 2019 12:17 Aki Tuomi via dovecot wrote:
>
>
> You can also tell dovecot to create the folders:
>
>
> namespace {
> inbox = yes
> mailbox Sent {
> auto=create
> }
> mailbox Trash {
> auto=create
> }
> mailbox Drafts {
> auto=create
> }
>
> ...
> }
>
> Aki
>
> > On 17 March 2019 11:38 Sakuma, Koshiro via dovecot
> > wrote:
> >
> >
> > Hi, Yassine,
> >
> > Yes, you are right that these folders are created by MUA which is Outlook
> > 2013. I can see "Inbox, sent items, drafts, deleted" box in the mail client.
> > This is OK. However, I only can take backup "inbox" mail of dovecot side. I
> > mean, the backup can be taken from /Maildir/cur directory.
> > I would like to take backup from "Sent, Draft" boxes which are dovecot mail
> > boxed. I need to take backup MS outlook of "ost" file for sent item, draft
> > mail box separately in that case. Or it is not possible way to take these
> > mail boxed on dovecot?
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> >
> > 2019年3月17日(日) 17:45 Yassine Chaouche via dovecot :
> > > On 3/17/19 8:59 AM, Sakuma, Koshiro via dovecot wrote:
> > >
> > > > Hello,
> > > >
> > > > I've setup Dovecot and Postfix mailing systems. The protocol is imap.
> > > > Now, I've realized that there are no "sent items, drafts" boxed under
> > > > Maildir for each users. I would like to take back up Inbox, sent items,
> > > > draft boxes. For sent items box, it seems to be stored in outlook
> > > > client file which is "ost". The configuration parameters and version is
> > > > as follows. I can see that "namespace" has been configured. How can I
> > > > setup to see these folders?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Thank you for your support!
> > >
> > >
> > > I believe these folders (sent, draft etc.) are created by the MUA on
> > > first IMAP connexion. Can you confirm that these folders are created when
> > > you connect to your IMAP account for the first via a mail client ?
> > >
> > >
> > > If you are accessing your e-mail via a webmail, make sure to configure
> > > your webmail to create those folders for you. For example, with roundcube
> > > the config is :
> > >
> > >
> > > $config['drafts_mbox'] = 'INBOX.Drafts';
> > > $config['junk_mbox'] = 'INBOX.Junk';
> > > $config['sent_mbox'] = 'INBOX.Sent';
> > > $config['trash_mbox'] = 'INBOX.Trash';
> > > $config['create_default_folders'] = true;
> > >
> > >
> > > Yassine.
> > >
> > >
Re: How to create sent items, drafts and so on
You can also tell dovecot to create the folders:
namespace {
inbox = yes
mailbox Sent {
auto=create
}
mailbox Trash {
auto=create
}
mailbox Drafts {
auto=create
}
...
}
Aki
> On 17 March 2019 11:38 Sakuma, Koshiro via dovecot
> wrote:
>
>
> Hi, Yassine,
>
> Yes, you are right that these folders are created by MUA which is Outlook
> 2013. I can see "Inbox, sent items, drafts, deleted" box in the mail client.
> This is OK. However, I only can take backup "inbox" mail of dovecot side. I
> mean, the backup can be taken from /Maildir/cur directory.
> I would like to take backup from "Sent, Draft" boxes which are dovecot mail
> boxed. I need to take backup MS outlook of "ost" file for sent item, draft
> mail box separately in that case. Or it is not possible way to take these
> mail boxed on dovecot?
>
> Regards,
>
>
> 2019年3月17日(日) 17:45 Yassine Chaouche via dovecot :
> > On 3/17/19 8:59 AM, Sakuma, Koshiro via dovecot wrote:
> >
> > > Hello,
> > >
> > > I've setup Dovecot and Postfix mailing systems. The protocol is imap.
> > > Now, I've realized that there are no "sent items, drafts" boxed under
> > > Maildir for each users. I would like to take back up Inbox, sent items,
> > > draft boxes. For sent items box, it seems to be stored in outlook client
> > > file which is "ost". The configuration parameters and version is as
> > > follows. I can see that "namespace" has been configured. How can I setup
> > > to see these folders?
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Thank you for your support!
> >
> >
> > I believe these folders (sent, draft etc.) are created by the MUA on first
> > IMAP connexion. Can you confirm that these folders are created when you
> > connect to your IMAP account for the first via a mail client ?
> >
> >
> > If you are accessing your e-mail via a webmail, make sure to configure your
> > webmail to create those folders for you. For example, with roundcube the
> > config is :
> >
> >
> > $config['drafts_mbox'] = 'INBOX.Drafts';
> > $config['junk_mbox'] = 'INBOX.Junk';
> > $config['sent_mbox'] = 'INBOX.Sent';
> > $config['trash_mbox'] = 'INBOX.Trash';
> > $config['create_default_folders'] = true;
> >
> >
> > Yassine.
> >
> >
Re: How to create sent items, drafts and so on
Koshiro, Sounds like Outlook isn't set to upload Sent messages (or Deleted, etc.) And it sounds like an Outlook issue more than a Dovecot issue. Maybe this will help? https://www.msoutlook.info/question/486 -- K On Sun, Mar 17, 2019, at 12:39 PM, Sakuma, Koshiro via dovecot wrote: > Hi, Yassine, > > Yes, you are right that these folders are created by MUA which is Outlook > 2013. I can see "Inbox, sent items, drafts, deleted" box in the mail client. > This is OK. However, I only can take backup "inbox" mail of dovecot side. I > mean, the backup can be taken from /Maildir/cur directory. > I would like to take backup from "Sent, Draft" boxes which are dovecot mail > boxed. I need to take backup MS outlook of "ost" file for sent item, draft > mail box separately in that case. Or it is not possible way to take these > mail boxed on dovecot? > > Regards, > > 2019年3月17日(日) 17:45 Yassine Chaouche via dovecot : >> On 3/17/19 8:59 AM, Sakuma, Koshiro via dovecot wrote: >> >>> Hello, >>> I've setup Dovecot and Postfix mailing systems. The protocol is imap. Now, >>> I've realized that there are no "sent items, drafts" boxed under Maildir >>> for each users. I would like to take back up Inbox, sent items, draft >>> boxes. For sent items box, it seems to be stored in outlook client file >>> which is "ost". The configuration parameters and version is as follows. I >>> can see that "namespace" has been configured. How can I setup to see these >>> folders? >>> >>> Thank you for your support! >> >> I believe these folders (sent, draft etc.) are created by the MUA on first >> IMAP connexion. Can you confirm that these folders are created when you >> connect to your IMAP account for the first via a mail client ? >> If you are accessing your e-mail via a webmail, make sure to configure your >> webmail to create those folders for you. For example, with roundcube the >> config is : >> $config['drafts_mbox'] = 'INBOX.Drafts'; $config['junk_mbox'] = 'INBOX.Junk'; $config['sent_mbox'] = 'INBOX.Sent'; $config['trash_mbox'] = 'INBOX.Trash'; $config['create_default_folders'] = true; >> >> Yassine.
Re: How to create sent items, drafts and so on
Hi, Yassine, Yes, you are right that these folders are created by MUA which is Outlook 2013. I can see "Inbox, sent items, drafts, deleted" box in the mail client. This is OK. However, I only can take backup "inbox" mail of dovecot side. I mean, the backup can be taken from /Maildir/cur directory. I would like to take backup from "Sent, Draft" boxes which are dovecot mail boxed. I need to take backup MS outlook of "ost" file for sent item, draft mail box separately in that case. Or it is not possible way to take these mail boxed on dovecot? Regards, 2019年3月17日(日) 17:45 Yassine Chaouche via dovecot : > On 3/17/19 8:59 AM, Sakuma, Koshiro via dovecot wrote: > > Hello, > I've setup Dovecot and Postfix mailing systems. The protocol is imap. > Now, I've realized that there are no "sent items, drafts" boxed under > Maildir for each users. I would like to take back up Inbox, sent items, > draft boxes. For sent items box, it seems to be stored in outlook client > file which is "ost". The configuration parameters and version is as > follows. I can see that "namespace" has been configured. How can I setup > to see these folders? > > Thank you for your support! > > > I believe these folders (sent, draft etc.) are created by the MUA on first > IMAP connexion. Can you confirm that these folders are created when you > connect to your IMAP account for the first via a mail client ? > > If you are accessing your e-mail via a webmail, make sure to configure > your webmail to create those folders for you. For example, with roundcube > the config is : > > $config['drafts_mbox']= 'INBOX.Drafts'; > $config['junk_mbox'] = 'INBOX.Junk'; > $config['sent_mbox'] = 'INBOX.Sent'; > $config['trash_mbox'] = 'INBOX.Trash'; > $config['create_default_folders'] = true; > > Yassine. > >
Re: How to create sent items, drafts and so on
On 3/17/19 8:59 AM, Sakuma, Koshiro via dovecot wrote: Hello, I've setup Dovecot and Postfix mailing systems. The protocol is imap. Now, I've realized that there are no "sent items, drafts" boxed under Maildir for each users. I would like to take back up Inbox, sent items, draft boxes. For sent items box, it seems to be stored in outlook client file which is "ost". The configuration parameters and version is as follows. I can see that "namespace" has been configured. How can I setup to see these folders? Thank you for your support! I believe these folders (sent, draft etc.) are created by the MUA on first IMAP connexion. Can you confirm that these folders are created when you connect to your IMAP account for the first via a mail client ? If you are accessing your e-mail via a webmail, make sure to configure your webmail to create those folders for you. For example, with roundcube the config is : $config['drafts_mbox'] = 'INBOX.Drafts'; $config['junk_mbox'] = 'INBOX.Junk'; $config['sent_mbox'] = 'INBOX.Sent'; $config['trash_mbox'] = 'INBOX.Trash'; $config['create_default_folders'] = true; Yassine.
