Re: Sieve fileinto :create is failing

2021-01-21 Thread @lbutlr
On 20 Jan 2021, at 13:12, Ron Garret  wrote:
> 1.  Is there any documentation about what “requires” are needed to access 
> various features?  The only source I’ve found for this is reverse-engineering 
> examples.

This list an the RFCs.

> 2.  Is there a way to change the location of the sieve logfile that gets 
> created when a sieve script produces an error?  Right now it ends up in the 
> same directory as the script, but I’d prefer to have in /var/log along with 
> everything else.

Sieve is per user, so you cannot write the logs to /var/log/

And it does not matter if you are running global script, as I learned recently, 
the logs are written per user no matter what.

-- 
<[TN]FBMachine> I got kicked out of Barnes and Noble once for moving
all the bibles into the fiction section

Re: Sieve fileinto :create is failing

2021-01-20 Thread Aki Tuomi


> On 20/01/2021 22:37 Ron Garret  wrote:
> 
>  
> On Jan 20, 2021, at 12:32 PM, Piotr Auksztulewicz  wrote:
> 
> > On Wed, Jan 20, 2021 at 12:12:40PM -0800, Ron Garret wrote:
> >> 1.  Is there any documentation about what “requires” are needed
> >> to access various features?  The only source I’ve found for this is
> >> reverse-engineering examples.
> > 
> > Sieve RFCs.
> 
> I was afraid of that :-(
> 

Or if you don't feel like trolling the sieve RFCs too much, you can also start 
with https://doc.dovecot.org/configuration_manual/sieve/

There is also https://wiki2.dovecot.org/Pigeonhole/Sieve/ which has this handy 
list of all recognized extensions.

Aki


Re: Sieve fileinto :create is failing

2021-01-20 Thread Ron Garret


On Jan 20, 2021, at 12:32 PM, Piotr Auksztulewicz  wrote:

> On Wed, Jan 20, 2021 at 12:12:40PM -0800, Ron Garret wrote:
>> 1.  Is there any documentation about what “requires” are needed
>> to access various features?  The only source I’ve found for this is
>> reverse-engineering examples.
> 
> Sieve RFCs.

I was afraid of that :-(

> plugin {
>sieve_user_log = 
> }
> 
> It's per-user and written with logged-in user rights, so you probably
> wan't be able to put it in /var/log unless you use some clever permissions
> setup, depending on how you run imap processes. I don't know if it
> supports %u expansion or something.

I’m only using global sieve scripts, but that’s a good point.

Thanks!

rg



Re: Sieve fileinto :create is failing

2021-01-20 Thread Piotr Auksztulewicz
On Wed, Jan 20, 2021 at 12:12:40PM -0800, Ron Garret wrote:
> 1.  Is there any documentation about what “requires” are needed
> to access various features?  The only source I’ve found for this is
> reverse-engineering examples.

Sieve RFCs. At least this is what I have used to learn sieve. Each
extension to basic language needs a specific keyword in require statement.
List of supported extensions with links to RFCs is on the wiki:

https://wiki.dovecot.org/Pigeonhole/Sieve

> 2.  Is there a way to change the location of the sieve logfile that
> gets created when a sieve script produces an error?  Right now it ends
> up in the same directory as the script, but I’d prefer to have in
> /var/log along with everything else.

plugin {
sieve_user_log = 
}

It's per-user and written with logged-in user rights, so you probably
wan't be able to put it in /var/log unless you use some clever permissions
setup, depending on how you run imap processes. I don't know if it
supports %u expansion or something.

-- 
Piotr "Malgond" Auksztulewicz firstn...@lastname.net


Re: Sieve fileinto :create is failing

2021-01-20 Thread Ron Garret
I think I figured out what happened.  I think I edited the .sieve file but 
forgot to save it, so I was actually running an old version that did not have 
“mailbox” in the require statement.

On which note, two more questions:

1.  Is there any documentation about what “requires” are needed to access 
various features?  The only source I’ve found for this is reverse-engineering 
examples.

2.  Is there a way to change the location of the sieve logfile that gets 
created when a sieve script produces an error?  Right now it ends up in the 
same directory as the script, but I’d prefer to have in /var/log along with 
everything else.

rg

On Jan 19, 2021, at 11:02 PM, Aki Tuomi  wrote:

> 
>> On 20/01/2021 08:46 Ron Garret  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> On Jan 19, 2021, at 10:40 PM, Aki Tuomi  wrote:
>> 
>>> 
 On 19/01/2021 19:45 Ron Garret  wrote:
 
 
 I’m trying to get a sieve script to move messages into a folder, and to 
 create that folder if it doesn’t already exist.  I’m following the example 
 code at:
 
 https://doc.dovecot.org/configuration_manual/sieve/examples/
 
 and doing this:
 
> require ["fileinto", "mailbox”];
> …
> fileinto :create “myfolder”;
> …
 
 That results in this error in the log file:
 
 error: unknown tagged argument ':create' for the fileinto command
 
 What am I doing wrong?
 
 rg
>>> 
>>> Which version of dovecot/pigeonhole is this?
>> 
>> I’m not sure.  How would I find out?  I just installed it on Debian using 
>> apt.
>> 
>>> I tested this with 2.3.13 and it worked just fine. Are those quotes mangled 
>>> by your mailer or do you really have some fancy quotes in your sieve script?
>> 
>> Not sure what you mean by “fancy quotes”.  The quotes I have (and the ones I 
>> see in your quoted message) are regular ascii double quotes, code point 0x22.
>> 
>> But I think it is actually working now.  I didn’t change anything, it just 
>> seems to have spontaneously started working.  Maybe sieve was working off an 
>> earlier version of the script that it had cached?
>> 
>> rg
> 
> Ok. Sieve (re)compiles scripts when it sees that they change (comparing file 
> dates). It does not cache scripts in memory.
> 
> Aki



Re: Sieve fileinto :create is failing

2021-01-19 Thread Aki Tuomi


> On 20/01/2021 08:46 Ron Garret  wrote:
> 
>  
> On Jan 19, 2021, at 10:40 PM, Aki Tuomi  wrote:
> 
> > 
> >> On 19/01/2021 19:45 Ron Garret  wrote:
> >> 
> >> 
> >> I’m trying to get a sieve script to move messages into a folder, and to 
> >> create that folder if it doesn’t already exist.  I’m following the example 
> >> code at:
> >> 
> >> https://doc.dovecot.org/configuration_manual/sieve/examples/
> >> 
> >> and doing this:
> >> 
> >>> require ["fileinto", "mailbox”];
> >>> …
> >>> fileinto :create “myfolder”;
> >>> …
> >> 
> >> That results in this error in the log file:
> >> 
> >> error: unknown tagged argument ':create' for the fileinto command
> >> 
> >> What am I doing wrong?
> >> 
> >> rg
> > 
> > Which version of dovecot/pigeonhole is this?
> 
> I’m not sure.  How would I find out?  I just installed it on Debian using apt.
> 
> > I tested this with 2.3.13 and it worked just fine. Are those quotes mangled 
> > by your mailer or do you really have some fancy quotes in your sieve script?
> 
> Not sure what you mean by “fancy quotes”.  The quotes I have (and the ones I 
> see in your quoted message) are regular ascii double quotes, code point 0x22.
> 
> But I think it is actually working now.  I didn’t change anything, it just 
> seems to have spontaneously started working.  Maybe sieve was working off an 
> earlier version of the script that it had cached?
> 
> rg

Ok. Sieve (re)compiles scripts when it sees that they change (comparing file 
dates). It does not cache scripts in memory.

Aki


Re: Sieve fileinto :create is failing

2021-01-19 Thread Ron Garret


On Jan 19, 2021, at 10:40 PM, Aki Tuomi  wrote:

> 
>> On 19/01/2021 19:45 Ron Garret  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> I’m trying to get a sieve script to move messages into a folder, and to 
>> create that folder if it doesn’t already exist.  I’m following the example 
>> code at:
>> 
>> https://doc.dovecot.org/configuration_manual/sieve/examples/
>> 
>> and doing this:
>> 
>>> require ["fileinto", "mailbox”];
>>> …
>>> fileinto :create “myfolder”;
>>> …
>> 
>> That results in this error in the log file:
>> 
>> error: unknown tagged argument ':create' for the fileinto command
>> 
>> What am I doing wrong?
>> 
>> rg
> 
> Which version of dovecot/pigeonhole is this?

I’m not sure.  How would I find out?  I just installed it on Debian using apt.

> I tested this with 2.3.13 and it worked just fine. Are those quotes mangled 
> by your mailer or do you really have some fancy quotes in your sieve script?

Not sure what you mean by “fancy quotes”.  The quotes I have (and the ones I 
see in your quoted message) are regular ascii double quotes, code point 0x22.

But I think it is actually working now.  I didn’t change anything, it just 
seems to have spontaneously started working.  Maybe sieve was working off an 
earlier version of the script that it had cached?

rg



Re: Sieve fileinto :create is failing

2021-01-19 Thread Aki Tuomi


> On 19/01/2021 19:45 Ron Garret  wrote:
> 
>  
> I’m trying to get a sieve script to move messages into a folder, and to 
> create that folder if it doesn’t already exist.  I’m following the example 
> code at:
> 
> https://doc.dovecot.org/configuration_manual/sieve/examples/
> 
> and doing this:
> 
> > require ["fileinto", "mailbox”];
> > …
> >  fileinto :create “myfolder”;
> > …
> 
> That results in this error in the log file:
> 
> error: unknown tagged argument ':create' for the fileinto command
> 
> What am I doing wrong?
> 
> rg

Which version of dovecot/pigeonhole is this?

I tested this with 2.3.13 and it worked just fine. Are those quotes mangled by 
your mailer or do you really have some fancy quotes in your sieve script?

Aki