Re: Sieve fileinto :create is failing

2021-01-21 Thread @lbutlr
On 20 Jan 2021, at 13:12, Ron Garret  wrote:
> 1.  Is there any documentation about what “requires” are needed to access 
> various features?  The only source I’ve found for this is reverse-engineering 
> examples.

This list an the RFCs.

> 2.  Is there a way to change the location of the sieve logfile that gets 
> created when a sieve script produces an error?  Right now it ends up in the 
> same directory as the script, but I’d prefer to have in /var/log along with 
> everything else.

Sieve is per user, so you cannot write the logs to /var/log/

And it does not matter if you are running global script, as I learned recently, 
the logs are written per user no matter what.

-- 
<[TN]FBMachine> I got kicked out of Barnes and Noble once for moving
all the bibles into the fiction section

Re: Sieve fileinto :create is failing

2021-01-20 Thread Aki Tuomi


> On 20/01/2021 22:37 Ron Garret  wrote:
> 
>  
> On Jan 20, 2021, at 12:32 PM, Piotr Auksztulewicz  wrote:
> 
> > On Wed, Jan 20, 2021 at 12:12:40PM -0800, Ron Garret wrote:
> >> 1.  Is there any documentation about what “requires” are needed
> >> to access various features?  The only source I’ve found for this is
> >> reverse-engineering examples.
> > 
> > Sieve RFCs.
> 
> I was afraid of that :-(
> 

Or if you don't feel like trolling the sieve RFCs too much, you can also start 
with https://doc.dovecot.org/configuration_manual/sieve/

There is also https://wiki2.dovecot.org/Pigeonhole/Sieve/ which has this handy 
list of all recognized extensions.

Aki


Re: Sieve fileinto :create is failing

2021-01-20 Thread Ron Garret


On Jan 20, 2021, at 12:32 PM, Piotr Auksztulewicz  wrote:

> On Wed, Jan 20, 2021 at 12:12:40PM -0800, Ron Garret wrote:
>> 1.  Is there any documentation about what “requires” are needed
>> to access various features?  The only source I’ve found for this is
>> reverse-engineering examples.
> 
> Sieve RFCs.

I was afraid of that :-(

> plugin {
>sieve_user_log = 
> }
> 
> It's per-user and written with logged-in user rights, so you probably
> wan't be able to put it in /var/log unless you use some clever permissions
> setup, depending on how you run imap processes. I don't know if it
> supports %u expansion or something.

I’m only using global sieve scripts, but that’s a good point.

Thanks!

rg



Re: Sieve fileinto :create is failing

2021-01-20 Thread Piotr Auksztulewicz
On Wed, Jan 20, 2021 at 12:12:40PM -0800, Ron Garret wrote:
> 1.  Is there any documentation about what “requires” are needed
> to access various features?  The only source I’ve found for this is
> reverse-engineering examples.

Sieve RFCs. At least this is what I have used to learn sieve. Each
extension to basic language needs a specific keyword in require statement.
List of supported extensions with links to RFCs is on the wiki:

https://wiki.dovecot.org/Pigeonhole/Sieve

> 2.  Is there a way to change the location of the sieve logfile that
> gets created when a sieve script produces an error?  Right now it ends
> up in the same directory as the script, but I’d prefer to have in
> /var/log along with everything else.

plugin {
sieve_user_log = 
}

It's per-user and written with logged-in user rights, so you probably
wan't be able to put it in /var/log unless you use some clever permissions
setup, depending on how you run imap processes. I don't know if it
supports %u expansion or something.

-- 
Piotr "Malgond" Auksztulewicz firstn...@lastname.net


Re: Sieve fileinto :create is failing

2021-01-20 Thread Ron Garret
I think I figured out what happened.  I think I edited the .sieve file but 
forgot to save it, so I was actually running an old version that did not have 
“mailbox” in the require statement.

On which note, two more questions:

1.  Is there any documentation about what “requires” are needed to access 
various features?  The only source I’ve found for this is reverse-engineering 
examples.

2.  Is there a way to change the location of the sieve logfile that gets 
created when a sieve script produces an error?  Right now it ends up in the 
same directory as the script, but I’d prefer to have in /var/log along with 
everything else.

rg

On Jan 19, 2021, at 11:02 PM, Aki Tuomi  wrote:

> 
>> On 20/01/2021 08:46 Ron Garret  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> On Jan 19, 2021, at 10:40 PM, Aki Tuomi  wrote:
>> 
>>> 
 On 19/01/2021 19:45 Ron Garret  wrote:
 
 
 I’m trying to get a sieve script to move messages into a folder, and to 
 create that folder if it doesn’t already exist.  I’m following the example 
 code at:
 
 https://doc.dovecot.org/configuration_manual/sieve/examples/
 
 and doing this:
 
> require ["fileinto", "mailbox”];
> …
> fileinto :create “myfolder”;
> …
 
 That results in this error in the log file:
 
 error: unknown tagged argument ':create' for the fileinto command
 
 What am I doing wrong?
 
 rg
>>> 
>>> Which version of dovecot/pigeonhole is this?
>> 
>> I’m not sure.  How would I find out?  I just installed it on Debian using 
>> apt.
>> 
>>> I tested this with 2.3.13 and it worked just fine. Are those quotes mangled 
>>> by your mailer or do you really have some fancy quotes in your sieve script?
>> 
>> Not sure what you mean by “fancy quotes”.  The quotes I have (and the ones I 
>> see in your quoted message) are regular ascii double quotes, code point 0x22.
>> 
>> But I think it is actually working now.  I didn’t change anything, it just 
>> seems to have spontaneously started working.  Maybe sieve was working off an 
>> earlier version of the script that it had cached?
>> 
>> rg
> 
> Ok. Sieve (re)compiles scripts when it sees that they change (comparing file 
> dates). It does not cache scripts in memory.
> 
> Aki



Re: Sieve fileinto :create is failing

2021-01-19 Thread Aki Tuomi


> On 20/01/2021 08:46 Ron Garret  wrote:
> 
>  
> On Jan 19, 2021, at 10:40 PM, Aki Tuomi  wrote:
> 
> > 
> >> On 19/01/2021 19:45 Ron Garret  wrote:
> >> 
> >> 
> >> I’m trying to get a sieve script to move messages into a folder, and to 
> >> create that folder if it doesn’t already exist.  I’m following the example 
> >> code at:
> >> 
> >> https://doc.dovecot.org/configuration_manual/sieve/examples/
> >> 
> >> and doing this:
> >> 
> >>> require ["fileinto", "mailbox”];
> >>> …
> >>> fileinto :create “myfolder”;
> >>> …
> >> 
> >> That results in this error in the log file:
> >> 
> >> error: unknown tagged argument ':create' for the fileinto command
> >> 
> >> What am I doing wrong?
> >> 
> >> rg
> > 
> > Which version of dovecot/pigeonhole is this?
> 
> I’m not sure.  How would I find out?  I just installed it on Debian using apt.
> 
> > I tested this with 2.3.13 and it worked just fine. Are those quotes mangled 
> > by your mailer or do you really have some fancy quotes in your sieve script?
> 
> Not sure what you mean by “fancy quotes”.  The quotes I have (and the ones I 
> see in your quoted message) are regular ascii double quotes, code point 0x22.
> 
> But I think it is actually working now.  I didn’t change anything, it just 
> seems to have spontaneously started working.  Maybe sieve was working off an 
> earlier version of the script that it had cached?
> 
> rg

Ok. Sieve (re)compiles scripts when it sees that they change (comparing file 
dates). It does not cache scripts in memory.

Aki


Re: Sieve fileinto :create is failing

2021-01-19 Thread Ron Garret


On Jan 19, 2021, at 10:40 PM, Aki Tuomi  wrote:

> 
>> On 19/01/2021 19:45 Ron Garret  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> I’m trying to get a sieve script to move messages into a folder, and to 
>> create that folder if it doesn’t already exist.  I’m following the example 
>> code at:
>> 
>> https://doc.dovecot.org/configuration_manual/sieve/examples/
>> 
>> and doing this:
>> 
>>> require ["fileinto", "mailbox”];
>>> …
>>> fileinto :create “myfolder”;
>>> …
>> 
>> That results in this error in the log file:
>> 
>> error: unknown tagged argument ':create' for the fileinto command
>> 
>> What am I doing wrong?
>> 
>> rg
> 
> Which version of dovecot/pigeonhole is this?

I’m not sure.  How would I find out?  I just installed it on Debian using apt.

> I tested this with 2.3.13 and it worked just fine. Are those quotes mangled 
> by your mailer or do you really have some fancy quotes in your sieve script?

Not sure what you mean by “fancy quotes”.  The quotes I have (and the ones I 
see in your quoted message) are regular ascii double quotes, code point 0x22.

But I think it is actually working now.  I didn’t change anything, it just 
seems to have spontaneously started working.  Maybe sieve was working off an 
earlier version of the script that it had cached?

rg



Re: Sieve fileinto :create is failing

2021-01-19 Thread Aki Tuomi


> On 19/01/2021 19:45 Ron Garret  wrote:
> 
>  
> I’m trying to get a sieve script to move messages into a folder, and to 
> create that folder if it doesn’t already exist.  I’m following the example 
> code at:
> 
> https://doc.dovecot.org/configuration_manual/sieve/examples/
> 
> and doing this:
> 
> > require ["fileinto", "mailbox”];
> > …
> >  fileinto :create “myfolder”;
> > …
> 
> That results in this error in the log file:
> 
> error: unknown tagged argument ':create' for the fileinto command
> 
> What am I doing wrong?
> 
> rg

Which version of dovecot/pigeonhole is this?

I tested this with 2.3.13 and it worked just fine. Are those quotes mangled by 
your mailer or do you really have some fancy quotes in your sieve script?

Aki


Sieve fileinto :create is failing

2021-01-19 Thread Ron Garret
I’m trying to get a sieve script to move messages into a folder, and to create 
that folder if it doesn’t already exist.  I’m following the example code at:

https://doc.dovecot.org/configuration_manual/sieve/examples/

and doing this:

> require ["fileinto", "mailbox”];
> …
>  fileinto :create “myfolder”;
> …

That results in this error in the log file:

error: unknown tagged argument ':create' for the fileinto command

What am I doing wrong?

rg