Re: submission_add_received_header option?

2024-02-05 Thread Chad Wallace via dovecot
On Fri, 2 Feb 2024 20:29:59 +0200 (EET)
Aki Tuomi via dovecot  wrote:

> > On 02/02/2024 20:25 EET Ellie McNeill  wrote:
> > 
> > According to the "Dovecot Core Settings" page, a new setting 
> > 'submission_add_received_header' was added in dovecot 2.3.19 to
> > give admins the option of hiding the IP of the sending client when
> > using dovecot's submissiond:
> > 
> > https://doc.dovecot.org/3.0/settings/core/
> > 
> > However, when I place this option in my config, dovecot refuses to
> > start and says that the option is not recognised:
> > 
> > doveconf: Fatal: Error in configuration file 
> > /etc/dovecot/conf.d/20-submission.conf line 92: Unknown setting: 
> > submission_add_received_header
> 
> Unfortunately you are looking at Dovecot 3.0 (2.4 CE) settings.
> 
> Please see https://doc.dovecot.org/settings/core/ for 2.3 settings.

Looks like the 3.0 docs need to be updated so they don't say the
setting was released in 2.3.19.

Do you know if that setting is ever going to make it into 2.3?
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Re: submission_add_received_header option?

2024-02-04 Thread Steven Varco
Hi Ellie

> Am 02.02.2024 um 23:02 schrieb Ellie McNeill :
> 
> Sorry, I seem to have missed that. I hope this isn't a silly question, but 
> I'm wondering what the difference between 'regular' Dovecot and the 'CE'/3.0 
> edition is? I can't seem to find much information on this. Why are there 
> different versions?

CE/3.0 is the „commercial/enterprise“ version of dovecot, where you need to pay 
money for a support contract, whereas 2.3 is the „community“ version, which is 
available for free. These version are basically the same for most aspect, but 
some features beeing available in the paid enterprise version only.

> PS: I'm aware of the arguments regarding privacy/RFCs with regards to mail 
> headers. This is just a small mail server for personal use though.

In this case it matters even less. „Hiding“ vital parts of a technology, for 
imagined „security“ is never a good/right option.

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Re: submission_add_received_header option?

2024-02-02 Thread Ellie McNeill

Hi!

Unfortunately you are looking at Dovecot 3.0 (2.4 CE) settings.

Please see https://doc.dovecot.org/settings/core/ for 2.3 settings.

Aki


Sorry, I seem to have missed that. I hope this isn't a silly question, 
but I'm wondering what the difference between 'regular' Dovecot and the 
'CE'/3.0 edition is? I can't seem to find much information on this. Why 
are there different versions?


PS: I'm aware of the arguments regarding privacy/RFCs with regards to 
mail headers. This is just a small mail server for personal use though.


Ellie
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Re: submission_add_received_header option?

2024-02-02 Thread Michael Peddemors
For the record, you should never 'hide' the connecting IP, that 
information is very valuable for all abuse handling, and so you can 
quickly see when someone reports spam from your network, who is abusing 
it..


the whole privacy vs security debates aside please..

And it also allows other spam protections to better act on it, eg if the 
IP is on a DROP rbl, or an auth RBL like RATS-AUTH, etc..


A lot of information can be gathered on the actor behind BEC if the 
authenticating IP is part of that data..


And given that much of the world uses a NAT connection, it's not like 
the IP is really PPI.. There is a lot more PPI being gathered from other 
parts of the email.


On 2024-02-02 10:25, Ellie McNeill wrote:
Hi, I've recently upgraded my mail server from Debian 11 to Debian 12. 
It now runs dovecot 2.3.19.1 (verified with dovecot --version).


According to the "Dovecot Core Settings" page, a new setting 
'submission_add_received_header' was added in dovecot 2.3.19 to give 
admins the option of hiding the IP of the sending client when using 
dovecot's submissiond:


https://doc.dovecot.org/3.0/settings/core/

However, when I place this option in my config, dovecot refuses to start 
and says that the option is not recognised:


doveconf: Fatal: Error in configuration file 
/etc/dovecot/conf.d/20-submission.conf line 92: Unknown setting: 
submission_add_received_header


Can anyone help me with this?

Ellie
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Re: submission_add_received_header option?

2024-02-02 Thread Aki Tuomi via dovecot


> On 02/02/2024 20:25 EET Ellie McNeill  wrote:
> 
>  
> Hi, I've recently upgraded my mail server from Debian 11 to Debian 12. 
> It now runs dovecot 2.3.19.1 (verified with dovecot --version).
> 
> According to the "Dovecot Core Settings" page, a new setting 
> 'submission_add_received_header' was added in dovecot 2.3.19 to give 
> admins the option of hiding the IP of the sending client when using 
> dovecot's submissiond:
> 
> https://doc.dovecot.org/3.0/settings/core/
> 
> However, when I place this option in my config, dovecot refuses to start 
> and says that the option is not recognised:
> 
> doveconf: Fatal: Error in configuration file 
> /etc/dovecot/conf.d/20-submission.conf line 92: Unknown setting: 
> submission_add_received_header
> 
> Can anyone help me with this?
> 
> Ellie

Hi!

Unfortunately you are looking at Dovecot 3.0 (2.4 CE) settings.

Please see https://doc.dovecot.org/settings/core/ for 2.3 settings.

Aki
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submission_add_received_header option?

2024-02-02 Thread Ellie McNeill
Hi, I've recently upgraded my mail server from Debian 11 to Debian 12. 
It now runs dovecot 2.3.19.1 (verified with dovecot --version).


According to the "Dovecot Core Settings" page, a new setting 
'submission_add_received_header' was added in dovecot 2.3.19 to give 
admins the option of hiding the IP of the sending client when using 
dovecot's submissiond:


https://doc.dovecot.org/3.0/settings/core/

However, when I place this option in my config, dovecot refuses to start 
and says that the option is not recognised:


doveconf: Fatal: Error in configuration file 
/etc/dovecot/conf.d/20-submission.conf line 92: Unknown setting: 
submission_add_received_header


Can anyone help me with this?

Ellie
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