Re: [Drakelist] AC-4

2011-02-24 Thread Phbjr
This is all you need.  Just did one a couple  of months ago, works great!
 
_http://www.theheathkitshop.com/page7/page7.html_ 
(http://www.theheathkitshop.com/page7/page7.html) 
 
73/Paul, K4MSG
 
 


n a message dated 2/24/2011 12:18:12 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,  
wd9...@hotmail.com writes:

Looks  like it's time to rebuild my AC-4.  Does anybody have references or  
suggestions?
TNX ES 73,
Jude  WD9FUM
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Re: [Drakelist] AC-4

2011-02-24 Thread Dino Papas
Same for meeasy build, easy install, great performanceno-brainer.

Dino KL0S

On Feb242011, at 1222 PM, ph...@aol.com wrote:

 This is all you need.  Just did one a couple of months ago, works great!
  
 http://www.theheathkitshop.com/page7/page7.html
  
 73/Paul, K4MSG
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Re: [Drakelist] AC-4

2011-02-24 Thread Don Cunningham
Jude,
I too endorse highly the AC4R kit from Heathkit Shop, but would caution you as 
he will in the literature with the kit to be SURE that you are comfortable with 
working with the high voltage found in the kit.  If so, it's the best!!!
73,
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Re: [Drakelist] R4B No Standby or Mute

2011-02-24 Thread Paul Gerhardt
More troubleshooting on this one today.

Pulled out the D6 diode and C11 and both checked OK on DVM and Heath
Condenser checker so put parts back in and UNhooked the wire from C11
Neg side and Bias Voltage went from -45 to -135 ripple looks fine.

Next I Hooked the wire back on C11 and UNhooked the white-red from the
side of the RF gain pot.  Now have -65 Volts at C11 (Where schematic
says -80V) and S Meter is on 60 over in Standby (and all other
positions).

Hooked RF Gain (Red White that goes to Mode Switch) back on and C11
Voltage back to -45 V.

Measured V5 voltages and all are OK except Pin 1 is -2.3 instead of
-1.1. 70V and 110V and fil on the other pins are all OK.

Something is pulling the bias down excessively it seems but I have run
out of time and ideas for today.





On Tue, Feb 22, 2011 at 11:32 AM, Paul Gerhardt phgerha...@gmail.com wrote:
 Got some time to poke at this some more.  Voltage at V2 does not set
 up according to Sec 6.4.9 Bias and S-Meter Adj section of manual.
 1. hook up meter
 2. set -1.35 had to turn control all the way to get this voltage
 3. S1 Adj sets 'ok'
 4. Set -15 - very low like -3 Volts

 Going back to the power supply I am only getting -45V at the -80V test
 point, (C11 and D6) after the bias diode in the power supply.  So
 either something is bad in the few bias supply components or something
 in the reading is 'dragging it down'  B+ is good and both sides of
 power transformer ohm out the same so I think the transformer is OK.

 Ohming out the three diodes I get a much higher 'forward' resistance
 on the bias diode D6.  like 15k one way and 30k the other way.  The
 two B+ diodes have a much lower forward resistance so this may be a
 problem.

 Plan now will be to unhook the 'circuit' and see if bias goes up and
 if not look at D6 and C11 as R141 and R96 are both within tolerance.

 Any other thoughts B4 I remove the little power supply board?

 Paul -

 Same result if you unplug the MUTE cable at the receiver?   FAST and/or
 SLOW the same?

 Possibly bad V1, V4 or V5, unplug one at a time.  Does S-Meter go up to
 full scale?  Voltage at TP-2?

 73, Garey - K4OAH
 Glen Allen, VA

 Drake 2-B, 2-C/2-NT, 4-A, 4-B, C-Line
 and TR-4/C Service Supplement CDs
 www.k4oah.com


 Paul Gerhardt wrote:
 My B-line has been working but today that after hooking it back up
 (was working on a TR-4) I noticed that the R-4b was not muting or
 going into Standby.

 In standby or ext mute (w/o short in RCA Mute)audio is distorted
 RF Gain only raises S Meter to 20 over or so.

 Something seems to have changed since I used it last a few weeks ago.

 Could this be a tube failing or ??





 --
 Paul Gerhardt
 K3PG
 http://pgerhardt.blogspot.com
 QRP ARCI 6674
 FP 274




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FP 274

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Re: [Drakelist] AC-4

2011-02-24 Thread Richard Knoppow


- Original Message - 
From: Don Cunningham d...@martineer.net

To: memberservice...@live.com; drakelist@zerobeat.net
Sent: Thursday, February 24, 2011 9:57 AM
Subject: Re: [Drakelist] AC-4


Jude,
I too endorse highly the AC4R kit from Heathkit Shop, but 
would caution you as he will in the literature with the kit 
to be SURE that you are comfortable with working with the 
high voltage found in the kit.  If so, it's the best!!!

73,
Don, WB5HAK
   I've also installed a Heathkit Shop kit. Assembling the 
circuit board is very easy, and, in fact, installing it was 
pretty simple but the instructions for the final 
installation leave a lot to be desired. Nonetheless it all 
went pretty smoothly.


The kit does not change the circuit; it simply replaces 
the caps with modern radial lead ones and replaces other 
parts which are likely to have fatigued. The bias circuit 
everyone warns about remains exactly the same other than the 
caps are replaced.


   In fact, you can get the original canned caps from some 
specialty places but it would probably cost as much as the 
kit and the kit will make future replacements easier.


   The high voltage in the Drake supply should be 
respected. The instructions want you to measure the voltage 
under unloaded conditions using a jumper to operate the 
supply without connecting it to the transmitter. Just be 
careful. While the filter caps have a bleeder on them they 
will hold a charge for a few minutes after power is removed. 
A charged cap without a bleeder will knock you across the 
room, they hold a lot of energy.


   I found the voltages given in the instructions to be 
optimistic and higher than the Drake info indicates (this 
was at the correct line voltage). Also, on mine the ripple 
was a bit higher than speced but also works fine.


   The instructions suggest leaving the original caps in 
place for appearance. I removed them from mine. Partly that 
is because the resulting holes in the chassis are useful for 
wiring and also because old electrolytic caps can eventually 
leak rather corrosive material. Its just as well to get rid 
of them.


   While you have the thing open clean the bias pot with 
some Deoxit, or better with the lubricant-cleaner made by 
the same people, Caig.


   Also, if you make any ground connections by soldering 
directly to the chassis you will need a _big_ iron. Not 
necessarily high wattage just one with a massive tip.





--
Richard Knoppow
Los Angeles
WB6KBL
dickb...@ix.netcom.com


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[Drakelist] Drake 2-NT and Heathkit HG-10B

2011-02-24 Thread Jim Bo

The 2-NT manual says it need 12 Volts RMS on 15 meters from a VFO to operate 
properly.

The manual also mentions that the Heathkit HG-10B is suitable as an external 
VFO.  The Heathkit manual says the output is 5v RMS open circuit.

My 2-NT has less than 1 watt output on 15M  and I beleive it is due to the 
low output of the Heathkit VFO (when using a 7.007 mHz xtal, it outputs full 
power).

Any comments or experience from the members??

Thanks

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Re: [Drakelist] AC-4

2011-02-24 Thread kc9cdt

Jude,
I just did one with that upgrade kit. Worked super. It will take a 
while. It is actually fun.

Work slowly, carefully and when your not tired around high voltage.
If your checking voltages live, keep one hand in your pocket (and don't 
lean on the chassis) :-)


I am doing a L-4B PS now..in either case. One mistake and you may 
become SK.
Oh, I also recommend using a digital camera to capture the before in 
detail before starting.

73,
Lee


Lee Simmonds
Summit DCS LLC
 
260-799-4077 Office
260-403-6936 Cell


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From: Don Cunningham d...@martineer.net
To: memberservices-6 memberservice...@live.com; drakelist 
drakelist@zerobeat.net

Sent: Thu, Feb 24, 2011 12:59 pm
Subject: Re: [Drakelist] AC-4


Jude,
I too endorse highly the AC4R kit from Heathkit Shop, but would caution 
you as he will in the literature with the kit to be SURE that you are 
comfortable with working with the high voltage found in the kit.  If 
so, it's the best!!!

73,
Don, WB5HAK 

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[Drakelist] T-4XB as exciter

2011-02-24 Thread Charles Ring
A possible project I would like to do is to use one of my two T-4XB's as 
a vfo/exciter (cw/rtty) for my Globe King 500A. I know I would bypass 
the sweep tube final, not sure what other adaptations would be needed. 
Has anyone done this kind of thing? I would pair it with my R-4B or my R-4C.


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Re: [Drakelist] T-4XB as exciter

2011-02-24 Thread Ron
Charles,
Only the first part of an answer.  The standard Drake factory mod to 
bypass/shutdown the finals for Drake VHF transverters is here:

http://bama.edebris.com/manuals/drake/trnsvrtr/ 

Not sure what all else you might need as I am not familiar with the Globe King 
500A's other requirements.

73,
Ron WD8SBB

--- On Thu, 2/24/11, Charles Ring w...@roadrunner.com wrote:

 From: Charles Ring w...@roadrunner.com
 Subject: [Drakelist] T-4XB as exciter
 To: drakelist@zerobeat.net
 Date: Thursday, February 24, 2011, 7:42 PM
 A possible project I would like to do
 is to use one of my two T-4XB's as a vfo/exciter (cw/rtty)
 for my Globe King 500A. I know I would bypass the sweep tube
 final, not sure what other adaptations would be needed. Has
 anyone done this kind of thing? I would pair it with my R-4B
 or my R-4C.
 
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[Drakelist] AC-4R kit

2011-02-24 Thread TC Dailey

If you're using HIS kit, one HUGE caveat.

His instructions are not very good, and he's really not in the mood to 
appreciate feedback, so here ya go:  Follow his instructions for REMOVAL of 
all of the components to be replaced + remove ALL old caps (you don't need 
'em - who cares what it looks like under the METAL SHIELD?...duh


NOW - install the spacers and fit the board - leave ALL fasteners loose. 
Take the board back out.


Now skip steps - lengthen all SECONDARY windings of the transformer (except 
for the filament - they've not been disconnected).  RECONNECT all secondary 
windings to their pad points on the board.  At this point most of the 
confusion is ended.  You need only to connect the bias wires (he said 
they're white - he sent brown wire... no biggie), and the REMAINING wires 
from the output cable... small orange, small yellow, etc.  After it's all 
hooked up, and you've checked your wiring - bring it up slowly on a Variac 
so IF you've messed up, you won't fry anything.  Once you're happy, tighten 
up all the hardware, and put the case on.


Tom D. - WØEAJ 



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Re: [Drakelist] AC-4R kit

2011-02-24 Thread Richard Knoppow


- Original Message - 
From: TC Dailey daileyservi...@qwest.net

To: drakelist@zerobeat.net
Sent: Thursday, February 24, 2011 9:01 PM
Subject: [Drakelist] AC-4R kit


If you're using HIS kit, one HUGE caveat.

His instructions are not very good, and he's really not in 
the mood to
appreciate feedback, so here ya go:  Follow his instructions 
for REMOVAL of
all of the components to be replaced + remove ALL old caps 
(you don't need
'em - who cares what it looks like under the METAL 
SHIELD?...duh


NOW - install the spacers and fit the board - leave ALL 
fasteners loose.

Take the board back out.

Now skip steps - lengthen all SECONDARY windings of the 
transformer (except
for the filament - they've not been disconnected). 
RECONNECT all secondary
windings to their pad points on the board.  At this point 
most of the
confusion is ended.  You need only to connect the bias wires 
(he said
they're white - he sent brown wire... no biggie), and the 
REMAINING wires
from the output cable... small orange, small yellow, etc. 
After it's all
hooked up, and you've checked your wiring - bring it up 
slowly on a Variac
so IF you've messed up, you won't fry anything.  Once you're 
happy, tighten

up all the hardware, and put the case on.

Tom D. - WØEAJ

   As the guy says! I add to make a drawing of the old 
wiring before starting out. The instructions for loading the 
board are OK but the wiring instructions are not and can be 
pretty confusing. I did NOT make a drawing, being too 
trusting, and was quite frustrated when I discovered the 
description of the wiring in the kit instructions made no 
sense.
   I also second removing the old caps, they are not needed 
and might leak later.



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Los Angeles
WB6KBL
dickb...@ix.netcom.com 



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Re: [Drakelist] restoring

2011-02-24 Thread John Hudson
I've sent this out before but looks like it could help again.

Some years ago Hewlet Packard has their repair and calibration lab in 
Fullerton, CA. and I had the opportunity to visit the facility doing a walk 
through where they take equipment in for repair and all they do to bring the 
units up to speed and operational. It seems they make sure the unit is working 
and then take simple green and bathe the whole unit down. The unit was then 
scrubbed with brushes to get the big pieces off, then the unit is power washed 
with clean distilled water to remove all grease, girt, and whatever else was 
there. Once the unit is completely clean the equipment is placed in a large 
oven at 150-200 degs for several days unit the unit is completely dry. Once its 
dry the unit is again tested and any/all repairs, alignment and calibration was 
performed. Once the unit was done it looked brand-new.

So the dishwasher is not a bad idea provided you don't use the soap, and not 
sure how simple green would work in a dishwasher.

73's,

De WA6HYQ.

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From: drakelist-boun...@zerobeat.net [mailto:drakelist-boun...@zerobeat.net] On 
Behalf Of Morrell Siegel
Sent: Monday, February 21, 2011 9:13 PM
To: DRAKE LIST
Subject: [Drakelist] restoring

thanks to all that offered advice. looks like the dishwasher is out. the next 
few weeks with theq tips and tooth brush, a little at a time. mckey 
wa6fiz
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