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Have to add my penny's worth too... Only place to go if ya need info for the Drake line... Thanks Thom!!! C-Line Twins, Charlie WB4YQV___ Drakelist mailing list Drakelist@zerobeat.net http://mailman.zerobeat.net/mailman/listinfo/drakelist
[drakelist] Epay/R-4B:
Here's a response that I got when questioned about the missing knob and dust... And Tammi?, beats me!!! Kosher? thats cute! I am going to take a closer look at this item. Maybe I chose the wrong word. I am having it checked out and will write a full report by tomarrow. So relax boys your questions will all be answered soon. Tammi check the listing for the answer to your ??? - nowthatsclever
[drakelist] Drake Cabinet Screws:
Gentlemen, at McMaster's price, for a set of screws for the C-Line Twins the price would be $144.96 + the cost of shipping... Think that I will look elsewhere... 73's, Charlie...
Re: [drakelist] Drake 4 series screws
Divide by 24, LOL... 73's, Charlie... - Original Message - From: Don Cunningham To: drakelist@zerobeat.net Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2008 9:15 PM Subject: Re: [drakelist] Drake 4 series screws Don Cunningham [EMAIL PROTECTED] made an utterance to the drakelist gang -- Let's see, now how many B Lines can you re-screw with 10,000 screws, HI HI. 73 all, Don, WB5HAK - Original Message - From: MICHAEL TALLENT [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: drakelist@zerobeat.net Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2008 7:25 PM Subject: Re: [drakelist] Drake 4 series screws MICHAEL TALLENT [EMAIL PROTECTED] made an utterance to the drakelist gang -- I found these that seem to be the right type- 6-32 slotted, pan head black oxide steel 1/4 inch long $83 for 1. http://www.fastenersuperstore.com/stores/superstore/step5.cfm?partId=110969productCode=MSPBcategory=Screws Mike W6MXV - Original Message - From: Jim Zellmer [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: drakelist@zerobeat.net Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2008 7:54 PM Subject: [drakelist] Drake 4 series screws Jim Zellmer [EMAIL PROTECTED] made an utterance to the drakelist gang -- The following is a copy of an email I sent to the list back in Janurary. Note the prices have gone up a little, but I think the Keystone Screws from Allied Electronics would be a good one for this aplication (Allied PN 839-9191) Price is about $12.43 per 100. Jim Zellmer KA0VSL The drake screws are a 6-32 x 1/4 slotted pan head machine screw fully threads black oxide. I looked through several catalogs and finally found one in McMaster Carr. But the price was shocking McMaster Carr PN 94340A440 Hard Alloy Stl Pan Head Slotted Machine Screw Black-Oxide, 6-32 Thread, 1/4 Length In stock at $6.04 Each I suppose it is the hard alloy that makes these pricey. You can find a box of 100 zinc plated screws of similar type for about 2.50. Then paint them. I did find a nice substitute in the Allied Electronics catalog a phillips flat head screw with a black painted head 6-32 x 1/4 http://www.alliedelec.com/Search/SearchResults.asp?N=0Ntk=PrimaryNtt=839-9191sid=47A10F807D4E617F *Keystone Electronics* Scrw, Binding; #6-32; Binding; 0.250 in.; 0.282 in.; 0.083 in.; Black; Brass http://www.alliedelec.com/Search/ProductDetail.asp?SKU=839-9191SEARCH=MPN=9190%2D3DESC=9190%2D3R=839%2D9191 *Mfr's part#:* 9190-3 Allied Stk#: *839-9191* View Datasheet PDF http://www.alliedelec.com/Images/Products/Datasheets/BM/KEYSTONE_ELECTRONICS/Keystone-Electronics_Enclosure-and-Cooling_8399190.pdf http://www.alliedelec.com/Images/Products/Datasheets/BM/KEYSTONE_ELECTRONICS/Keystone-Electronics_Enclosure-and-Cooling_8399190.pdf 3 $12.43 http://www.alliedelec.com/Search/ProductDetail.asp?SKU=839-9191SEARCH=ID=DESC=9190%2D3 Pack of 100 There may be other sources. If I find any think close to the original like the McMaster Carr version, but for less money I will post it to the list. Jim Zellmer KA0VSL Drake TR-7, B-line twins with L4-B, TR-4 (early) SC -- Submissions:drakelist@zerobeat.net Unsubscribe:[EMAIL PROTECTED] - unsubscribe drakelist in body Hopelessly Lost:[EMAIL PROTECTED] - help in body of message Zerobeat Web Page: www.zerobeat.net - sponsored by www.tlchost.net -- -- Submissions:drakelist@zerobeat.net Unsubscribe:[EMAIL PROTECTED] - unsubscribe drakelist in body Hopelessly Lost:[EMAIL PROTECTED] - help in body of message Zerobeat Web Page: www.zerobeat.net - sponsored by www.tlchost.net -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.138 / Virus Database: 270.4.6/1540 - Release Date: 7/8/2008 6:33 AM No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.138 / Virus Database: 270.4.6/1540 - Release Date: 7/8/2008 6:33 AM -- Submissions:drakelist@zerobeat.net Unsubscribe:[EMAIL PROTECTED] - unsubscribe drakelist in body Hopelessly Lost:[EMAIL PROTECTED] - help in body of message Zerobeat Web Page: www.zerobeat.net - sponsored by www.tlchost.net
Re: [drakelist] Drake Cabinet Screws
And after 216 years you would have worn out at least 5 sets of cabinets and untold number of screwdrivers... And your age at that time, you would need someone else to operate the screwdriver, lol...73's, Charlie... - Original Message - From: Jim Shorney To: drakelist@zerobeat.net Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2008 1:03 AM Subject: Re: [drakelist] Drake Cabinet Screws Jim Shorney [EMAIL PROTECTED] made an utterance to the drakelist gang -- On Tue, 8 Jul 2008 21:38:55 -0500, Don Cunningham wrote: Gee, and if I bought the 10,000 qty of the reasonably priced ones, I could change out the screws in both the B and C lines yearly for 216 years, or bi-anually for 108 years. Or you could bill them as highly musical oxygen-free screws and sell them to audiophools for six bucks a screw. 7 -Jim NU0C -- Submissions:drakelist@zerobeat.net Unsubscribe:[EMAIL PROTECTED] - unsubscribe drakelist in body Hopelessly Lost:[EMAIL PROTECTED] - help in body of message Zerobeat Web Page: www.zerobeat.net - sponsored by www.tlchost.net --
Re: [drakelist] T-4X: No Audio On SSB / AM
Sounds like a bad mic element or, bad solder joint or, maybe even an open ground connection... Suggest using a different mic. 73's, Charlie... - Original Message - From: Jim Shorney To: drakelist@zerobeat.net Sent: Saturday, July 05, 2008 2:14 PM Subject: Re: [drakelist] T-4X: No Audio On SSB / AM Jim Shorney [EMAIL PROTECTED] made an utterance to the drakelist gang -- On Sat, 5 Jul 2008 11:29:29 -0500, w4pro wrote: I had to rig up an amplifier between the mike and the rig to get enough audio on my T-4XB. Until I did that, I got no output on SSB. If you had to use an amplifier, something is wrong somewhere. 73 -Jim NU0C -- Submissions:drakelist@zerobeat.net Unsubscribe:[EMAIL PROTECTED] - unsubscribe drakelist in body Hopelessly Lost:[EMAIL PROTECTED] - help in body of message Zerobeat Web Page: www.zerobeat.net - sponsored by www.tlchost.net --
Re: [drakelist] A Drake Field Day
With the C-Line there should be no need for the 101... 73's, Charlie... - Original Message - From: VE3ES To: drakelist@zerobeat.net Sent: Friday, June 27, 2008 1:17 AM Subject: Re: [drakelist] A Drake Field Day VE3ES [EMAIL PROTECTED] made an utterance to the drakelist gang -- I will have a Drake C-line up and running on 40m for FD this year with a Yaesu (God forgive me) FT-101ZD as back up...(the TR-7 has crapped out). -- Submissions:drakelist@zerobeat.net Unsubscribe:[EMAIL PROTECTED] - unsubscribe drakelist in body Hopelessly Lost:[EMAIL PROTECTED] - help in body of message Zerobeat Web Page: www.zerobeat.net - sponsored by www.tlchost.net --
Re: [drakelist] Best Coax....
Hello Gang... What are the pro's con's on RG-8X??? Charlie... - Original Message - From: Jim Shorney To: drakelist@zerobeat.net Sent: Monday, June 02, 2008 6:45 PM Subject: Re: [drakelist] Best Coax Jim Shorney [EMAIL PROTECTED] made an utterance to the drakelist gang -- On Mon, 02 Jun 2008 15:48:13 -0500, Christopher Kovacs wrote: Christopher Kovacs [EMAIL PROTECTED] made an utterance to the drakelist gang -- Philip Grocki wrote: *I have a TR-4C and just getting into the ham scene again. I'm setting-up my new station and wondering what is the best all-around coax for vertical and beam antennas with this rig? I'm thinking RG-8/U.please advise. Thank you.* Take a look at LMR240 coax. It's little stiff. They also have an ultraflex version (little more loss). It's about the size of RG-8/x. LMR240 is great stuff, but is overkill for HF. Good old Belden 8214 RG-8 will do quite nicely, and is better suited for the rotor loop if using a beam antenna. 73 -Jim NU0C -- Submissions:drakelist@zerobeat.net Unsubscribe:[EMAIL PROTECTED] - unsubscribe drakelist in body Hopelessly Lost:[EMAIL PROTECTED] - help in body of message Zerobeat Web Page: www.zerobeat.net - sponsored by www.tlchost.net --
Re: [drakelist] Replacement Meters
Hello Jim... I have been working on the same thing... Currently, I have the 50uA meter installed in a Drake WV-4 with a ten turn pot for calibration and, it's working very well... All that I need to do is read the resistance of the shunt and see I if I can locate presision resistors to replace the ten turn pot... I have 4 more of the 50uA Morotola (MS24) meters on hand... 73's, Charlie... - Original Message - From: Jim Gerke To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, March 03, 2008 11:31 PM Subject: [drakelist] Replacement Meters Jim Gerke [EMAIL PROTECTED] made an utterance to the drakelist gang -- Just a quick update regarding the replacement meters I ran into a bit of a snafu in obtaining the correct parts for the shunts needed for the new meters. That issue should be resolved in a few days. I'll post another note once the parts are in hand. I can tell you that I tested my prototype in a known good, calibrated W-4 wattmeter and found that the replacement meter reads virtually the same as the original Drake meter at the same power level. Any deviation is well within the measuring tolerance (+/- 5%) of the W-4/WV-4/MN-4/MN-2000. 73, Jim K5JG -- Submissions:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe:[EMAIL PROTECTED] - unsubscribe drakelist in body Hopelessly Lost:[EMAIL PROTECTED] - help in body of message Zerobeat Web Page: www.zerobeat.net - sponsored by www.tlchost.net -- -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.21.3/1308 - Release Date: 3/3/2008 10:01 AM
Re: [drakelist] Replacement Meters
Hello Jim... The presision resistors are @ 1% and the original meter is at 5%, there shouldn't be a problem... The internal calibration should be able to make up for any difference in the individual meters... 73's, Charlie... - Original Message - From: Jim Shorney To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2008 12:05 AM Subject: Re: [drakelist] Replacement Meters Jim Shorney [EMAIL PROTECTED] made an utterance to the drakelist gang -- wb4yqv wrote: Hello Jim... I have been working on the same thing... Currently, I have the 50uA meter installed in a Drake WV-4 with a ten turn pot for calibration and, it's working very well... All that I need to do is read the resistance of the shunt and see I if I can locate presision resistors to replace the ten turn pot... I have 4 more of the 50uA Morotola (MS24) meters on hand... 73's, Charlie... It would be interesting to see how closely several different meter movements track to each other with a selected value of fixed resistance shunt. I have no idea of the manufacturing tolerances on these meters, or whether the differences between individual samples would be worth compensating for. The purist in me says use the precision trimpot and calibrate each sample, but I'm just that way sometimes :) 73, -Jim NU0C -- Submissions:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe:[EMAIL PROTECTED] - unsubscribe drakelist in body Hopelessly Lost:[EMAIL PROTECTED] - help in body of message Zerobeat Web Page: www.zerobeat.net - sponsored by www.tlchost.net -- -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.21.3/1308 - Release Date: 3/3/2008 10:01 AM
Re: [drakelist] Replacement Meters
At a + or - 5%, (original Drake spec) that should not be a problem.. - Original Message - From: Jim Shorney To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2008 12:22 AM Subject: Re: [drakelist] Replacement Meters Jim Shorney [EMAIL PROTECTED] made an utterance to the drakelist gang -- wb4yqv wrote: Hello Jim... The presision resistors are @ 1% and the original meter is at 5%, there shouldn't be a problem... The internal calibration should be able to make up for any difference in the individual meters... 73's, Charlie... Being a lazy purist, my thinking was to avoid recalibrating the sensor box if at all possible. 73 -Jim -- Submissions:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe:[EMAIL PROTECTED] - unsubscribe drakelist in body Hopelessly Lost:[EMAIL PROTECTED] - help in body of message Zerobeat Web Page: www.zerobeat.net - sponsored by www.tlchost.net -- -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.21.3/1308 - Release Date: 3/3/2008 10:01 AM
[drakelist] Wanted:
Hello Gang... I need a Grid meter for a L-4 or LB-4... Does anyone have one that they need to find a home for??? Charlie... [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [drakelist] test
It's working... - Original Message - From: richard radke To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2008 10:49 PM Subject: [drakelist] test richard radke [EMAIL PROTECTED] made an utterance to the drakelist gang -- test message -- Submissions:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe:[EMAIL PROTECTED] - unsubscribe drakelist in body Hopelessly Lost:[EMAIL PROTECTED] - help in body of message Zerobeat Web Page: www.zerobeat.net - sponsored by www.tlchost.net -- -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.20.4/1277 - Release Date: 2/13/2008 8:00 PM
Re: [drakelist] RE:L4B
How do you test 3-500Z's before you put them in the actual circuit??? Thanks in advance, Charlie... - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, February 04, 2008 8:23 PM Subject: [drakelist] RE:L4B [EMAIL PROTECTED] made an utterance to the drakelist gang -- Don, I've been through the process twice now. Mike's supplies are well worth it and worth the wait. Let's hope the 3-500's were packed separate, treated more kindly and don't need body work too... Check 'em out real careful. Make sure those tubes are good. I can't think of anything else. Chuck K4QS More new features than ever. Check out the new AOL Mail ! - http://webmail.aol.com -- Submissions:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe:[EMAIL PROTECTED] - unsubscribe drakelist in body Hopelessly Lost:[EMAIL PROTECTED] - help in body of message Zerobeat Web Page: www.zerobeat.net - sponsored by www.tlchost.net -- -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.19.19/1258 - Release Date: 2/4/2008 10:10 AM
Re: [drakelist] Almost All Digital Electronics Digital Readout
You maintain your analog dial with a digital (exact frequency readout) without defacing the original equipment...Do you want to guess where you are of know where you are??? Just depends on the person operating the equipment and, how precise they want to be... Charlie... - Original Message - From: john To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, February 04, 2008 9:36 PM Subject: Re: [drakelist] Almost All Digital Electronics Digital Readout john [EMAIL PROTECTED] made an utterance to the drakelist gang -- Im sure they work well, knowing AADE, but. why? To me, it would be kind of like putting neon lights and a rear spoiler of a classic Corvette. John K5MO At 08:52 PM 2/4/2008, you wrote: Has anyone had any experience with the AADE Digital Dials for the Drake? I was looking at the one with the blue display for my C Line. How do they work? Any advice would be helpful. Thanks Dave White VE6DRW -- Submissions:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe:[EMAIL PROTECTED] - unsubscribe drakelist in body Hopelessly Lost:[EMAIL PROTECTED] - help in body of message Zerobeat Web Page: www.zerobeat.net - sponsored by www.tlchost.net -- -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.19.19/1258 - Release Date: 2/4/2008 10:10 AM
Re: [drakelist] Almost All Digital Electronics Digital Readout
I Have an AADE DFD-103 unit and using it with my R-4C, it works great on 80m and 40m bands... Is eratic on the higher frequencies and, I think that's because of my programing error... I too have been looking at the blue flourescent display version to replace the unit that I now have... Charlie... - Original Message - From: Dave White To: Drake Mailing List Sent: Monday, February 04, 2008 8:52 PM Subject: [drakelist] Almost All Digital Electronics Digital Readout Has anyone had any experience with the AADE Digital Dials for the Drake? I was looking at the one with the blue display for my C Line. How do they work? Any advice would be helpful. Thanks Dave White VE6DRW -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.19.19/1258 - Release Date: 2/4/2008 10:10 AM
Re: [drakelist] 2 For 1 Sale
WV-4, needs meter, $35.00 + shipping... - Original Message - From: BSugarberg To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2008 9:20 PM Subject: [drakelist] 2 For 1 Sale BSugarberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] made an utterance to the drakelist gang -- Hello, I have the following for sale: Drake W-4 Wattmeter - Works good, looks good. Drake WV-4 Wattmeter - Needs new meter, looks good. $75.00 for both + shipping. 73, Bruce WA8TNC -- Submissions:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe:[EMAIL PROTECTED] - unsubscribe drakelist in body Hopelessly Lost:[EMAIL PROTECTED] - help in body of message Zerobeat Web Page: www.zerobeat.net - sponsored by www.tlchost.net -- -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.19.17/1253 - Release Date: 1/31/2008 9:09 AM
Re: [drakelist] market value of Sherwood AM filter for R4C
Not to sure on the price on the 3KHz, I have a Drake FL-4000 that I would like to trade for a Drake FL-6000... Charlie - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, January 19, 2008 4:28 PM Subject: [drakelist] market value of Sherwood AM filter for R4C [EMAIL PROTECTED] made an utterance to the drakelist gang -- Fellow enthusiasts, Would you know the market value of a Sherwood Engineering, 3 kc AM filter, that plugs into the inside filter socket in a Drake R4C? Enjoy those Drakes and hope to see you at Hamvention 2008. 73, Evan**Start the year off right. Easy ways to stay in shape. http://body.aol.com/fitness/winter-exercise?NCID=aolcmp0030002489-- Submissions: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - unsubscribe drakelist in body Hopelessly Lost: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - help in body of message Zerobeat Web Page: www.zerobeat.net - sponsored by www.tlchost.net -- -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.19.7/1233 - Release Date: 1/19/2008 6:37 PM
Re: [drakelist] Insanity
Try Radio Shack... They have a clear version that will not turn loose... - Original Message - From: Jim Shorney To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, January 12, 2008 1:14 AM Subject: RE: [drakelist] Insanity Jim Shorney [EMAIL PROTECTED] made an utterance to the drakelist gang -- On Fri, 11 Jan 2008 08:52:45 -0700, sebdesn wrote: haven't found Velco that will stick to a dashboard, though... Go to a fabric/sewing supply store, it comes in several Widths/colors, and has a gummed back with peel off covering. I just got some for another project. Thanks, but I'm not overly optimistic. The best I've tried so far is Industrial Strength Velcro brand found at the aforementioned hardware store, and it's starting to come loose after not quite a week. The cheap stuff doesn't last a day. I really don't want to have to epoxy it to the dash, but that's what it may take. 73 -Jim -- Ham Radio NU0C TR7/RV7, TR6/RV6, T4XC/R4C, L4B, NCL2000, SB104A, R390A, GT550A/RV550A, HyGain 3750, IBM PS/2 - all vintage, all the time! HyGain 3750 User's Group - http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HyGain_3750/ -- Submissions:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe:[EMAIL PROTECTED] - unsubscribe drakelist in body Hopelessly Lost:[EMAIL PROTECTED] - help in body of message Zerobeat Web Page: www.zerobeat.net - sponsored by www.tlchost.net -- -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.19.1/1220 - Release Date: 1/11/2008 6:09 PM
Re: [drakelist] Somewhat OT: Experiment
$33.87 to Louisville, Ky... - Original Message - From: Mark Pilant To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, December 14, 2007 1:42 PM Subject: [drakelist] Somewhat OT: Experiment Mark Pilant [EMAIL PROTECTED] made an utterance to the drakelist gang -- Greetings. I'm looking for a kind soul, with an eBay account, to look up the following: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=190182360471 which just happens to be a Drake TR-7; to keep things somewhat on topic. I am interested in what you see shown for shipping costs. I'm in NH and it shows $48.66. Thanks in advance. 73 - Mark N1VQW -- Submissions:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe:[EMAIL PROTECTED] - unsubscribe drakelist in body Hopelessly Lost:[EMAIL PROTECTED] - help in body of message Zerobeat Web Page: www.zerobeat.net - sponsored by www.tlchost.net -- -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.17.2/1184 - Release Date: 12/14/2007 11:29 AM
Re: [drakelist] 4 line blue filters
Hello John... Changing the blue filters when needed (about 20 or 30 years) a lifetime supply wouldn't have to be very large... hi hi... 73's, Charlie... - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, November 07, 2007 10:52 AM Subject: Re: [drakelist] 4 line blue filters Hi Duane and all, I plugged in an order with FT last night just to see how far it would go. I got right up to the shipping but didn't give them my card number and there was no mention of a minimum orderunless I somehow missed it. Even then, I would gladly pay $15.00 for a sheet of filter if I needed it. I am sure there are other goodies on that site that one could order to make up the $15.00 minimum that would be usable items around the shack. For that matter, one could order several sheets of filter, keep one and sell the excess. I happened to load up on the original stuff when it was still available so I have my own lifetime supply. 73, John, W4AWM -Original Message- From: Duane Calvin [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wed, 7 Nov 2007 9:33 am Subject: Re: [drakelist] 4 line blue filters Duane Calvin made an utterance to the drakelist gang -- By the way, FilmTools now requires a $15 minimum order. Must be too many of us Drakesters ordering a single sheet! 73, Duane At 11:40 PM 11/6/2007, you wrote: Greetings all, There is no mystery about this. All you need is $6.25 plus shipping and you can buy your very own lifetime supply (21 X 24 inch sheet) of Lee Filters #172 which is also known as Lagoon Blue. Simply go towww.filmtools.comThere is no minumum order and they sell to anyone. Orders are shipped the next day. The usual disclaimers apply. Now I have to blow off some steam: I subscribe to many reflectors. Every day I see folks looking for stuff. Some appear to be asking for freebees and others for difficult to find items. It appears that many are too lazy to do some very basic research to find what they are looking for and expect someone to do the work for them. Why not let your fingers do the walking? Researching on the web is certainly not brain surgery and you will be amazed what you will find with virtually no effort! I suppose now I will spend the next several days getting flamed and looking at endless threads on the subject. I'm done. 73, John, W4AWM ** See what's new at http://www.aol.com Duane Calvin, AC5AA Austin, Texas www.ac5aa.com -- Submissions: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - unsubscribe drakelist in body Hopelessly Lost: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - help in body of message Zerobeat Web Page: www.zerobeat.net - sponsored by www.tlchost.net -- -- Email and AIM finally together. You've gotta check out free AOL Mail! -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.15.24/1115 - Release Date: 11/7/2007 9:21 AM