[Drakelist] Dishwasher trick

2011-02-28 Thread sebdesnCC
In case you have not heard, dishwasher soap has been changed in the last
year. There are no more phosphates in them, the stuff won't even clean my
tea cup,let alone a radio chassis.

73 Bud W0HG


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Re: [Drakelist] Dishwasher trick

2011-02-28 Thread Richard Knoppow


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Yep,
May as well just use hot water by itself...
73,
Lee
The detergent is still a good wetting agent (AKA 
surfactant) which will help cleaning. If you want a 
phosphate you can add that in the form of TSP which is still 
available in many hardware stores. It doesn't take much to 
boost a detergent.
To remove oxidation you can use something specific 
which contains a reducing agent. The most commonly used ones 
are oxalic acid and phosphoric acid. Many products contain 
one or the other. Oxalic acid is in Barkeeper's Friend and 
Zud, and phosporic acid in Naval Jelly, Tarn-X and many tile 
cleaners. Again, it doesn't take much.
My worry about using a dishwasher is that they are 
meant to sterilize the dishes meaning that they must subject 
them to a substantial amount of heat. Perhaps not as hot as 
an autoclave (around 250F) but I would certainly find out 
_how_ hot before putting anything in one.



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Richard Knoppow
Los Angeles
WB6KBL
dickb...@ix.netcom.com 



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Re: [Drakelist] Dishwasher trick

2011-02-28 Thread Don Jones
Re: the stuff won't even clean my tea cup, let alone a radio chassis.
73 Bud W0HG

Bud wins! Good one! Still laughing!

You-all have read my sea story about the old Gunny and his garden hose and
that Collins gear. While it is a true story, I still have some concerns. 
You won't see me posting a you tube video of me and my garden hose and my
prized Sherwood R-4C out in the backyard this spring giving a bath.
#1 the VFO grease that is used in our beloved radios. The hot rinse cycle
would not do your vfo's any favors.
#2 the high humidity (100%) would put power transformers at risk.
I am still a chicken, about as far as I would go is to use my electric
toothbrush with a suitable cleaning compound and a little water on the brush
to scrub up the upper deck of a radio. The underside of a the drake rigs is
too busy with point to point wiring for scrubbing with a tooth brush. 
Time to be real and get honest with ourselves. If you want pristine
collector grade appearance hire a professional and ante up.
 
Don Jones KO7i
Arlington, WA 


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