Re: [Drakelist] Drake R4B 5595 kHz oscillator/mixer

2014-11-15 Thread Dennis Monticelli
It could very well be a bad crystal.  If you or a friend have a crystal not
too far from that frequency, you can wire it in and just see if the circuit
oscillates.

Dennis AE6C

On Sat, Nov 15, 2014 at 12:09 PM, Morrell Siegel 
wrote:

> the oscillator may be working but on another frequency. if you have a
> receiver that you can listen  around the 5595 wrap a few turns around the
> second mixer, hook it up to the receiver and tune around the frequency. you
> may have a cap or inductor that has changed value and the oscillator is
> still working. if the oscillator is working you can add or subtract
> capacitance or inductance to bring it to the correct frequency. i have done
> this many times and it works. mickey wa6fiz
>
>
> On Nov 15, 2014, at 8:50 AM, Richard Knoppow <1oldle...@ix.netcom.com>
> wrote:
>
> >
> > - Original Message - From: "Charles Bostian" 
> > To: 
> > Sent: Friday, November 14, 2014 1:58 PM
> > Subject: [Drakelist] Drake R4B 5595 kHz oscillator/mixer
> >
> >
> >> I am trying to bring my old R4B/T4XB combination back to life after
> about
> >> 35 years of non-use.
> >> The 5595 kHz oscillator part of the second mixer 12BE6 circuit does not
> >> oscillate.  I have tried several tubes with no effect.  As far as I can
> >> determine, the tube is functioning normally and I can make the receiver
> >> work (after a fashion) by injecting a 5595 kHz signal from an external
> >> source. Before I take out/test/replace the handful of Rs and Cs and also
> >> look for a replacement xtal, I am wondering if anyone on the list has
> had a
> >> similar problem.  In particular, can you recommend a source for a
> >> replacement xtal?  Thanks!
> >>
> >> Charles W4KEP
> >>
> >It may well be the crystal. Replacements can be obtained from
> International Crystal. I've bought many crystals from them and all were
> perfect. They know the parameters for Drake crystals.
> >You might want to post also to the "other" drake list at:
> > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DrakeRadio/
> >
> >It seems to me this is a fairly common problem.
> >
> >
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> > Richard Knoppow
> > Los Angeles
> > WB6KBL
> > dickb...@ix.netcom.com
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[Drakelist] Drake R4B 5595 kHz oscillator/mixer

2014-11-15 Thread Charles Bostian
My thanks to everyone who has sent me ideas.  At one of your suggestions I
built a simple circuit to check the xtal performance.  It works fine -
series resonant at 5563.3 kHz and parallel resonant between 5599.1 and
5599.3 kHz.  So the problem must be in the four caps I haven't checked
yet.  Naturally they are the four hardest parts to get to!

Charles W4KEP

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Re: [Drakelist] Drake R4B 5595 kHz oscillator/mixer

2014-11-15 Thread Morrell Siegel
the oscillator may be working but on another frequency. if you have a receiver 
that you can listen  around the 5595 wrap a few turns around the second mixer, 
hook it up to the receiver and tune around the frequency. you may have a cap or 
inductor that has changed value and the oscillator is still working. if the 
oscillator is working you can add or subtract capacitance or inductance to 
bring it to the correct frequency. i have done this many times and it works. 
mickey wa6fiz


On Nov 15, 2014, at 8:50 AM, Richard Knoppow <1oldle...@ix.netcom.com> wrote:

> 
> - Original Message - From: "Charles Bostian" 
> To: 
> Sent: Friday, November 14, 2014 1:58 PM
> Subject: [Drakelist] Drake R4B 5595 kHz oscillator/mixer
> 
> 
>> I am trying to bring my old R4B/T4XB combination back to life after about
>> 35 years of non-use.
>> The 5595 kHz oscillator part of the second mixer 12BE6 circuit does not
>> oscillate.  I have tried several tubes with no effect.  As far as I can
>> determine, the tube is functioning normally and I can make the receiver
>> work (after a fashion) by injecting a 5595 kHz signal from an external
>> source. Before I take out/test/replace the handful of Rs and Cs and also
>> look for a replacement xtal, I am wondering if anyone on the list has had a
>> similar problem.  In particular, can you recommend a source for a
>> replacement xtal?  Thanks!
>> 
>> Charles W4KEP
>> 
>It may well be the crystal. Replacements can be obtained from 
> International Crystal. I've bought many crystals from them and all were 
> perfect. They know the parameters for Drake crystals.
>You might want to post also to the "other" drake list at:
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DrakeRadio/
> 
>It seems to me this is a fairly common problem.
> 
> 
> --
> Richard Knoppow
> Los Angeles
> WB6KBL
> dickb...@ix.netcom.com 
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Re: [Drakelist] Drake R4B 5595 kHz oscillator/mixer

2014-11-15 Thread Richard Knoppow


- Original Message - 
From: "Charles Bostian" 

To: 
Sent: Friday, November 14, 2014 1:58 PM
Subject: [Drakelist] Drake R4B 5595 kHz oscillator/mixer


I am trying to bring my old R4B/T4XB combination back to 
life after about

35 years of non-use.
The 5595 kHz oscillator part of the second mixer 12BE6 
circuit does not
oscillate.  I have tried several tubes with no effect.  As 
far as I can
determine, the tube is functioning normally and I can make 
the receiver
work (after a fashion) by injecting a 5595 kHz signal from 
an external
source. Before I take out/test/replace the handfull of Rs 
and Cs and also
look for a replacement xtal, I am wondering if anyone on 
the list has had a
similar problem.  In particular, can you recommend a 
source for a

replacement xtal?  Thanks!

Charles W4KEP

It may well be the crystal. Replacements can be 
obtained from International Crystal. I've bought many 
crystals from them and all were perfect. They know the 
parameters for Drake crystals.
You might want to post also to the "other" drake list 
at:

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DrakeRadio/

It seems to me this is a fairly common problem.


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Los Angeles
WB6KBL
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[Drakelist] Drake R4B 5595 kHz oscillator/mixer

2014-11-14 Thread Charles Bostian
I am trying to bring my old R4B/T4XB combination back to life after about
35 years of non-use.
The 5595 kHz oscillator part of the second mixer 12BE6 circuit does not
oscillate.  I have tried several tubes with no effect.  As far as I can
determine, the tube is functioning normally and I can make the receiver
work (after a fashion) by injecting a 5595 kHz signal from an external
source. Before I take out/test/replace the handfull of Rs and Cs and also
look for a replacement xtal, I am wondering if anyone on the list has had a
similar problem.  In particular, can you recommend a source for a
replacement xtal?  Thanks!

Charles W4KEP

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Charles W. Bostian
Alumni Distinguished Professor of ECE Emeritus
Virginia Tech
1609 Kennedy Avenue
Blacksburg, VA 24060-5731
540-552-9327 (H)
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