Re: [Drakelist] Drakelist Digest, Vol 33, Issue 12

2011-03-09 Thread grant vyborny
I'm with you , Don - I was wondering : what am I missing?  Actually, from
what I understand, we should all go back to the old ladder line to feed the
antenna because it has the lowest losses - not convenient in most cases

73 de Grant

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On Wed, Mar 9, 2011 at 7:32 AM, Don Cunningham  wrote:

>  Grant,
> It's a matter of "personal preference", and you'll get as many yeas as
> nays.  I subscribe to the old school, "If it ain't broke, don't fix it!".  I
> suspect some of this comes from VHF/UHF usage of coaxes, and they DO make a
> tremendous difference there, but under 30 megs, loss is minimal in good
> quality coax.  When we could get Belden Coax at a decent price, most thought
> RG-213 was better than "regular" RG-8, but likely there was little
> different.  You will have some more loss with RG-8X, but with low power, you
> shouldn't notice enough difference to warrant a change.  Only my opinion, no
> more factual than any else, hi.
> 73,
> Don, WB5HAK
>
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Re: [Drakelist] Drakelist Digest, Vol 33, Issue 12

2011-03-09 Thread Don Cunningham
Grant,
It's a matter of "personal preference", and you'll get as many yeas as nays.  I 
subscribe to the old school, "If it ain't broke, don't fix it!".  I suspect 
some of this comes from VHF/UHF usage of coaxes, and they DO make a tremendous 
difference there, but under 30 megs, loss is minimal in good quality coax.  
When we could get Belden Coax at a decent price, most thought RG-213 was better 
than "regular" RG-8, but likely there was little different.  You will have some 
more loss with RG-8X, but with low power, you shouldn't notice enough 
difference to warrant a change.  Only my opinion, no more factual than any 
else, hi.
73,
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Re: [Drakelist] Drakelist Digest, Vol 33, Issue 12

2011-03-08 Thread grant vyborny
>
> I've been using a Cushcraft R-7 "half-wave" Vertical on the roof of my
>  house driven be my Drake gear; I've been feeding it with RG-8X with no
> problem, both QRP and QRO.  I'm curious why we should avoid RG-8X?  What's
> the big deal about the "X" cable?
>

BTW, the R-7 is designed to configure and operate with no radials, and is
very easy to assemble, erect and tune.  I also have the Butternut HF-6 which
works great! but requires some work to its "mind right," adjusting the
sections and the radials and the ground.  can't say that one is a better
performer than the other but the Cushcraft is definitely easier.

Grant



> Message: 7
> Date: Tue, 8 Mar 2011 20:49:18 -0500
> From: Richard Palmer 
> To: drakelist@zerobeat.net
> Subject: Re: [Drakelist] Station upgrade?
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> Well I'm guessing that the only thing that has changed antenna wise is it's
> advertising. And most of that is now not only crap, it is an out and out
> lie. And because the ARRL(for one) does not require truth in the
> advertising
> that they print it sorta looks like there is all this new stuff. Most
> notably are vertical antennas that do not require radials or even a
> counterpoise.
>
> I use a Butternut HF-6V with a MN2000 and have (can) tune the WARC bands
> with it.
> I know that this does not directly address your system but the theory does.
> If your MN2700 is anything like the older MN2000 you should not have a
> problem. DO NOT use RG8X. I think that anything short of Times LMR 400 is a
> waste of money and time.
>
> The best thing anyone can do is to ignore the advertising and get your
> information from other Hams... just like you are doing.
>
> Take Care
> KB8NXO
>
> On Tue, Mar 8, 2011 at 6:30 PM, Michael & Sue Trussell <
> mtruss8...@comcast.net> wrote:
>
> > The weather and old age have taken its toll on my old AV5 Cushcraft 5
> band
> > vertical antenna. I am considering a purchase of another all band
> MBVE-1UP
> > 45 foot vertical by DX Engineering. Because I have been out of amateur
> radio
> > for many years the technical knowledge that I thought knew about antennas
> > and such has evolved so much by the various equipment manufactures that
> my
> > knowledge base has become outdated somewhat. I need to stick with a
> vertical
> > because of lack real estate and living in a city lot!
> >
>
>
> End of Drakelist Digest, Vol 33, Issue 12
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