[Drakelist] How much is an AC-4 power supply really worth? Some thoughts.

2011-05-15 Thread Kris Merschrod

Just some thoughts - no questions :)

Recently I bought an AC-4 power supply (serial # above 55,000) that had 
parts missing.  Basically, and I knew it, the $43 (included shipping) was 
buying a cabinet, the three pronged power cord, the main cord with cinch 
connector, the fuse holder, the L-C's for the power line, the terminal 
strips and the transformer.  Mike's (WB8VRG) AC4R rebuild kit was also 
needed to complete the parts. I prefer to buy Mike's rebuild with the PCB 
assembled.  For the extra $15 I know that it was done well.  So, with the 
kit and postage another $86 goes into the project.  In this case the cost of 
a set of components for an AC4 comes to $129.00.  Then you have to add TLC, 
some enjoyable time at the bench and the proverbial smoke test. .


Considering all of the warnings about how a failing supply can take down a 
rig, rebuilding is an insurance policy.  Plus, when those caps melt down it 
is a real mess to clean up!


So, when looking at Ron's (WB4HFN) price range for AC-4s from $48 to $193.50 
with an average of $106, you have to assume that the above average ones are 
rebuilt.  If a professional adds the TLC and does the rebuild, then another 
way shipping would be an additional cost for sure. Then the fair price 
should be at the top.


Kris KM2KM

Merschrod
123 Warren Road
Ithaca, NY 14850
www.merschrod.net 



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Re: [Drakelist] How much is an AC-4 power supply really worth? Some thoughts.

2011-05-15 Thread mike bryce
Kris,

some of those supplies fall under the 'it worked the last time it was plugged 
in' so I'd be very careful about sticking a price on such a item.

Some AC4Rs that have my rebuilt kit, and advertised as such, seem to bring in a 
lot more money, especially on ebay.

but, that's just a non scientific observation on my part

mike

Mike, WB8VGE
SunLight Energy Systems
The Heathkit Shop
http://www.theheathkitshop.com/
J e e p
o|||o 

A man with one clock knows what time it is. A man with two clocks is never 
sure. 




On May 15, 2011, at 12:30 PM, Kris Merschrod wrote:

 Just some thoughts - no questions :)
 
 Recently I bought an AC-4 power supply (serial # above 55,000) that had parts 
 missing.  Basically, and I knew it, the $43 (included shipping) was buying a 
 cabinet, the three pronged power cord, the main cord with cinch connector, 
 the fuse holder, the L-C's for the power line, the terminal strips and the 
 transformer.  Mike's (WB8VRG) AC4R rebuild kit was also needed to complete 
 the parts. I prefer to buy Mike's rebuild with the PCB assembled.  For the 
 extra $15 I know that it was done well.  So, with the kit and postage another 
 $86 goes into the project.  In this case the cost of a set of components for 
 an AC4 comes to $129.00.  Then you have to add TLC, some enjoyable time at 
 the bench and the proverbial smoke test. .
 
 Considering all of the warnings about how a failing supply can take down a 
 rig, rebuilding is an insurance policy.  Plus, when those caps melt down it 
 is a real mess to clean up!
 
 So, when looking at Ron's (WB4HFN) price range for AC-4s from $48 to $193.50 
 with an average of $106, you have to assume that the above average ones are 
 rebuilt.  If a professional adds the TLC and does the rebuild, then another 
 way shipping would be an additional cost for sure. Then the fair price should 
 be at the top.
 
 Kris KM2KM
 
 Merschrod
 123 Warren Road
 Ithaca, NY 14850
 www.merschrod.net 
 
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Re: [Drakelist] How much is an AC-4 power supply really worth? Some thoughts.

2011-05-15 Thread kc9cdt

A good working condition AC-4 NOT rebuilt is about $60-$90...
If it has the AC-4R then it should be another $75-100 IMHO.
73,
Lee, KC9CDT



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To: Kris Merschrod k...@merschrod.net
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Sent: Sun, May 15, 2011 1:12 pm
Subject: Re: [Drakelist] How much is an AC-4 power supply really worth? 
Some thoughts.



Kris,


some of those supplies fall under the 'it worked the last time it was 
plugged in' so I'd be very careful about sticking a price on such a 
item.



Some AC4Rs that have my rebuilt kit, and advertised as such, seem to 
bring in a lot more money, especially on ebay.



but, that's just a non scientific observation on my part


mike



Mike, WB8VGE
SunLight Energy Systems
The Heathkit Shop
http://www.theheathkitshop.com/
J e e p
o|||o 


A man with one clock knows what time it is. A man with two clocks is 
never sure. 










On May 15, 2011, at 12:30 PM, Kris Merschrod wrote:


Just some thoughts - no questions :)

Recently I bought an AC-4 power supply (serial # above 55,000) that had 
parts missing.  Basically, and I knew it, the $43 (included shipping) 
was buying a cabinet, the three pronged power cord, the main cord with 
cinch connector, the fuse holder, the L-C's for the power line, the 
terminal strips and the transformer.  Mike's (WB8VRG) AC4R rebuild kit 
was also needed to complete the parts. I prefer to buy Mike's rebuild 
with the PCB assembled.  For the extra $15 I know that it was done 
well.  So, with the kit and postage another $86 goes into the project. 
 In this case the cost of a set of components for an AC4 comes to 
$129.00.  Then you have to add TLC, some enjoyable time at the bench 
and the proverbial smoke test. .


Considering all of the warnings about how a failing supply can take 
down a rig, rebuilding is an insurance policy.  Plus, when those caps 
melt down it is a real mess to clean up!


So, when looking at Ron's (WB4HFN) price range for AC-4s from $48 to 
$193.50 with an average of $106, you have to assume that the above 
average ones are rebuilt.  If a professional adds the TLC and does the 
rebuild, then another way shipping would be an additional cost for 
sure. Then the fair price should be at the top.


Kris KM2KM

Merschrod
123 Warren Road
Ithaca, NY 14850
www.merschrod.net

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