Re: [drakelist] Cleaning Drake copper chassis

2008-07-21 Thread Ron Wagner

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Jack,
Seems to me that the mix you preset is actually somewhat acidic and cleans 
the copper by etching.  Although it would work, and I have used a similar 
mix on copper weld wire so that I could clean it for soldering.  I would 
suggest anyone using this be careful as the plating on the chassis can 
be very thin after years of exposure.


73,
Ron WD8SBB


On Sun, 20 Jul 2008, Jack Dunigan wrote:


Hi, I'm new to the list but not so new to restoring old things. I've had pretty 
good luck with a paste made up in the kitchen. Dissolve 1 teaspoon salt in 1 
cup white vinegar. Add enough flour to make a paste. Apply the paste to copper 
and let sit for 15 minutes to 1 hour. Rinse with clean warm water, and polish 
dry. Don't scrub too much and try to avoid abrasive pads. They scratch the 
surface. The original laquer coating develops cracks allowing corrosion to set 
in. If you want to remove all the old laquer use acetone or alcohol. As with 
any process, try it in some out of the way place first before attacking the 
whole surface.

Jack


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Re: [drakelist] Cleaning Drake copper chassis

2008-07-20 Thread Al Parker

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Hi Bill et al,
   Go to Ron's great info site, http://www.wb4hfn.com/ and you'll find a 
section on Drake tips.  He's drasticly re-arrarnged stuff since I was last 
there, so search it out, you'll find lots of good info on the way.  There 
are 1 or 2 pages on chassis cleanup, might still be one from me.

73,
Al, W8UT
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Subject: [drakelist] Cleaning Drake copper chassis


Has anyone used Cameo brand copper cleaner to clean a Drake chassis. It is 
usually available in a grocery store. I have a couple that have a caked on 
dirty crust. I'm wondering if this stuff might be too strong.


Thanks,

Bill Ellis, WB9CAC








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Re: [drakelist] Cleaning Drake copper chassis

2008-07-20 Thread John_Hudson
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I would use Simple Green (which I know you've already tried) and/or
Oxyclean which is a stain lifter but will remove many things. Of course
there are other things you can try like the cleaner for Mag wheels, but any
of them are going to leave a residue if not washed off.

My friends at the old Hewlett Packard Metrology Lab in Fullerton, CA used
the following to clean equipment for service;

1. Using an air hose, blow out dirt and dust from the chassis.
2. Hose the equipment down with simple green, letting it set for a while.
This removes any grease, grime, goo.
3. Then using a pressure sprayer, wash off the chassis with distilled
water.
4. Blow the water out with an air hose.
5. The last step was to bake the chassis using an oven at about  180-200
degrees for a couple of days to ensure all the water was out.

I've actually done this myself on a computer monitor I spilled 30 SAE oil
in, I used my wife's oven and it worked. I once dropped a Cellphone in the
toilet, I washed it out under the sink, blew it out and then baked it over
night. Guess what, no problems (I could say the audio was stinky but..),
worked great!

Just my two cents,

John N. Hudson III, WA6HYQ




   
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Has anyone used Cameo brand copper cleaner to clean a Drake chassis. It 
is usually available in a grocery store. I have a couple that have a
caked on dirty crust. I'm wondering if this stuff might be too strong.  

Thanks, 

Bill Ellis, WB9CAC  







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Re: [drakelist] Cleaning Drake copper chassis

2008-07-20 Thread Jack Dunigan
Hi, I'm new to the list but not so new to restoring old things. I've had pretty 
good luck with a paste made up in the kitchen. Dissolve 1 teaspoon salt in 1 
cup white vinegar. Add enough flour to make a paste. Apply the paste to copper 
and let sit for 15 minutes to 1 hour. Rinse with clean warm water, and polish 
dry. Don't scrub too much and try to avoid abrasive pads. They scratch the 
surface. The original laquer coating develops cracks allowing corrosion to set 
in. If you want to remove all the old laquer use acetone or alcohol. As with 
any process, try it in some out of the way place first before attacking the 
whole surface.

Jack
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  From: Bill Ellis 
  To: drakelist@zerobeat.net 
  Sent: Sunday, July 20, 2008 5:08 PM
  Subject: Re: [drakelist] Cleaning Drake copper chassis


Gary,

It almost seems as if some dirt has hardened on the surface. Hard to 
explain. Applying simple green seems to do some clean up, but residue continues 
to remain. Since simple green did something, I guess I should continue to apply 
it. I figured the copper cleaner would be too strong, but knew of it and 
thought I would ask. I'll try to get a picture of it and forward it.

Thanks,

Bill

--- On Sun, 7/20/08, Gary Poland <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

  From: Gary Poland <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
      Subject: Re: [drakelist] Cleaning Drake copper chassis
  To: drakelist@zerobeat.net
  Date: Sunday, July 20, 2008, 11:54 AM


  The outside of the chassis is coated with a clear lacquer. The 
corrosion / rust often occurs where the lacquer coating is compromised. I 
always clean the rust up best I can and coat the chassis with polyurethane. I 
am more concerned with preventing further damage to the chassis than appearance.

  73, Gary 



Re: [drakelist] Cleaning Drake copper chassis

2008-07-20 Thread Bill Ellis
Gary,

It almost seems as if some dirt has hardened on the surface. Hard to explain. 
Applying simple green seems to do some clean up, but residue continues to 
remain. Since simple green did something, I guess I should continue to apply 
it. I figured the copper cleaner would be too strong, but knew of it and 
thought I would ask. I'll try to get a picture of it and forward it.

Thanks,

Bill

--- On Sun, 7/20/08, Gary Poland <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
From: Gary Poland <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [drakelist] Cleaning Drake copper chassis
To: drakelist@zerobeat.net
Date: Sunday, July 20, 2008, 11:54 AM



 
 

The outside of the chassis is coated with a clear 
lacquer. The corrosion / rust often occurs where the lacquer coating is 
compromised. I always clean the rust up best I can and coat the chassis with 
polyurethane. I am more concerned with preventing further damage to the chassis 
than appearance.
 
73, Gary


  

Re: [drakelist] Cleaning Drake copper chassis

2008-07-20 Thread Gary Poland
The outside of the chassis is coated with a clear lacquer. The corrosion / rust 
often occurs where the lacquer coating is compromised. I always clean the rust 
up best I can and coat the chassis with polyurethane. I am more concerned with 
preventing further damage to the chassis than appearance.

73, Gary

Re: [drakelist] Cleaning Drake copper chassis

2008-07-20 Thread Gypsymt34
 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED])  writes:

Has anyone used Cameo brand copper cleaner to clean a  Drake chassis. It is 
usually available in a grocery store. I have a  couple that have a caked on 
dirty crust. 
Bill Ellis,  WB9CAC



I used some Bar Tenders brand on oneEH... a little to much corrosion to  
warrant.
All the rest have been Qtips,and tooth brushs with denatured alcohol.
However one gent on this list has a nice write up about giving a TRx a  
bath/shower to start his rebuilding.
Cal WD8NHK



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[drakelist] Cleaning Drake copper chassis

2008-07-19 Thread Bill Ellis
Has anyone used Cameo brand copper cleaner to clean a Drake chassis. It is 
usually available in a grocery store. I have a couple that have a caked on 
dirty crust. I'm wondering if this stuff might be too strong.

Thanks,

Bill Ellis, WB9CAC