Re: [drakelist] T-4XB Troubles

2004-12-01 Thread jsb

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 while I'm at it. Does anyone have a good Internet source for them? Also,
 does anyone have a good source for high value, high voltage
 electrolytics such as the 125 mfd. 400 volt contained in this supply?
 Once again, thanks for all the great information. I am happy I found
 this list!

http://www.harbachelectronics.com/reference/harpg4cart.htm

RK-AC4 - complete kit for replacing the guts of the AC-4 supply.


73 Jason N1SU
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Re: [drakelist] T-4XB Troubles

2004-12-01 Thread eqtc

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Hello all,

Someone gave me a x-tal set (x-tals and labels) for the SPR-4 receiver. He
thought it was usefull for my R4C, but it is not of course.
Is there anyone out there who I can make happy with these x-tals? I only
need shippingcosts payed.

Best 73, Dick/PA2DW

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Re: [drakelist] T-4XB troubles

2004-11-30 Thread Bill Ellis



Greg,

Considering how old your T-4XB might be and some of 
your problems are ones I had, your filter capacitors in the AC-4 powere 
suipply may have dried up and need replacing. This affects the bias and there 
could be ylour problem. There are others on this list who can give you more 
detailed direction. I wouldn't trying to do any more with the rig until you 
ascertain this is the problem and get it repaired. This will save your 
finals.


Bill Ellis, WB9CAC[EMAIL PROTECTED]



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  Hey all, I am new to the group, and would 
  like to start off by picking the collective brain :-)) I am having trouble 
  with my T-4XB. I was working CW with it the other day when all of a sudden, it 
  shot a fuse. I changed out the fuse and started it back up. The new fuse 
  didn't blow, but when the set warms up, and the tubes start to conduct, the 
  TX/RX relay kicks in and the plate meter starts to show a lot of plate 
  current, around .25 to .3 on the meter. The transmitter won't tune, won't key, 
  won't do anything except light up. I did a visual check underneath, and 
  nothing is obviously burned. or out of place. I thought it may be the 6EV7 
  tube associated with the relay, but I have no way of testing the one in the 
  set, or any of the others I got with it. Anyway, I thought this may be a 
  common problem associated with this particular set and decided to put the 
  problem in front of the all knowing ones of the famous Drake list! Anybody got 
  any ideas? 73's Greg Gifford / KG4MMY 



Re: [drakelist] T-4XB troubles

2004-11-30 Thread msmith

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Hi there,

The 6EV7 is sort of a known trouble spot in the T-4XB when it comes to the
the relay turning on when you do not want it to.
But I think this may be something different since you are seeing the plate
currents that you state. I think you might have a problem with a filter
capacitor in the negative bias suply of your AC-4 (or AC-3). If that filter
opens up and is not doing a good job of filtering, the ripple that will be
on the bias supply can be rectified by D10 and then passed to the grid (pin
7) of the 6EV7 and turn on the relay. Also, lack of filtering will lower
this negative bias voltage and result in increased plate current in the
finals from lack of bias.

If the filter capacitor in the supply goes short you will lose bias and
have improper final amp current, but I do not think you will have the relay
turning on that way, unless there is something I am failing to remember,
which could easily be the case.

Measure the bias voltage under load (meaning from within the T-4XB) and see
if it is low. You ought to be able to set it all the way to -70V or so with
the pot on the AC-4. If you have an oscilloscope you could look at the
ripple voltage. It should be pretty low. If you see 10 volts of ripple,
replace the filter cap.

If you need a capacitor for that bias filter I can give you one to get it
running.

Let me know if I was right. If not, ... anyone else want to take a crack at
it?

Michael Smith
N0XY

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 11/30/2004 01:31:49 PM:

 Hey all, I am new to the group, and would like to start off by
 picking the collective brain :-)) I am having trouble with my T-4XB.
 I was working CW with it the other day when all of a sudden, it shot
 a fuse. I changed out the fuse and started it back up. The new fuse
 didn't blow, but when the set warms up, and the tubes start to
 conduct, the TX/RX relay kicks in and the plate meter starts to show
 a lot of plate current, around .25 to .3 on the meter. The
 transmitter won't tune, won't key, won't do anything except light
 up. I did a visual check underneath, and nothing is obviously
 burned. or out of place. I thought it may be the 6EV7 tube
 associated with the relay, but I have no way of testing the one in
 the set, or any of the others I got with it.  Anyway, I thought this
 may be a common problem associated with this particular set and
 decided to put the problem in front of the all knowing ones of the
 famous Drake list! Anybody got any ideas?

 73's

 Greg Gifford / KG4MMY

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Re: [drakelist] T-4XB troubles

2004-11-30 Thread Gary Poland



Greg,
 Check the negative bias supply in the 
AC-4...sounds like you may have lost it. 

73, Gary


[drakelist] T-4XB Troubles

2004-11-30 Thread CleophusA1
Hey all, 
 Well, the list came through for me on this one big time! Many thanks to Garey, Bill, Gary and Michael for all the great info. The concessus was that I should check the electrolytics in the bias supply, which I promptly did, and found an open 40mfd . I have ordered the proper replacements, and should be back in business in a few days! It was also suggested that I replace the diodes while I'm at it. Does anyone have a good Internet source for them? Also, does anyone have a good source for high value, high voltage electrolytics such as the 125 mfd. 400 volt contained in this supply? Once again, thanks for all the great information. I am happy I found this list!

73's

Greg Gifford / KG4MMY


Re: [drakelist] T-4XB Troubles

2004-11-30 Thread Michael N0XY

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 Once
 again, thanks for all the great information. I am happy I found this list!
 73's
 Greg Gifford / KG4MMY

Ah... did anyone tell him that we all want money for this?

heheh JK

Michael
73
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Re: [drakelist] T-4XB Troubles

2004-11-30 Thread Garey Barrell
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Greg -
You might want to look at
http://www.theheathkitshop.com/hp23r.html
He offers a slightly different board made for the AC-4.   The 
Twist-Lok style of capacitor such as used on the AC-4 is all but 
extinct these days.   Here you have new PC style mounting capacitors, 
new diodes and resistors.  The only other option is to install axial 
(wire lead) capacitors under the chassis of the AC-4.   Axial and PC 
mount capacitors are available reasonably from Mouser and other 
distributors.

73, Garey - K4OAH
Atlanta
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*Hey all,
   Well, the list came through for me on this one big time! Many 
thanks to Garey, Bill, Gary and Michael for all the great info. The 
concessus was that I should check the electrolytics in the bias 
supply, which I promptly did, and found an open 40mfd . I have ordered 
the proper replacements, and should be back in business in a few days! 
It was also suggested that I replace the diodes while I'm at it. Does 
anyone have a good Internet source for them? Also, does anyone have a 
good source for high value, high voltage electrolytics such as the 125 
mfd. 400 volt contained in this supply? Once again, thanks for all the 
great information. I am happy I found this list!

73's
Greg Gifford / KG4MMY*
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