Re: [drakelist] Insanity
Try Radio Shack... They have a clear version that will not turn loose... - Original Message - From: Jim Shorney To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, January 12, 2008 1:14 AM Subject: RE: [drakelist] Insanity "Jim Shorney" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> made an utterance to the drakelist gang -- On Fri, 11 Jan 2008 08:52:45 -0700, sebdesn wrote: >> >> >> haven't found Velco >> that will stick to a dashboard, though... >> > >Go to a fabric/sewing supply store, it comes in several Widths/colors, >and has a gummed back with peel off covering. I just got some for >another project. Thanks, but I'm not overly optimistic. The best I've tried so far is "Industrial Strength" Velcro brand found at the aforementioned hardware store, and it's starting to come loose after not quite a week. The cheap stuff doesn't last a day. I really don't want to have to epoxy it to the dash, but that's what it may take. 73 -Jim -- Ham Radio NU0C TR7/RV7, TR6/RV6, T4XC/R4C, L4B, NCL2000, SB104A, R390A, GT550A/RV550A, HyGain 3750, IBM PS/2 - all vintage, all the time! HyGain 3750 User's Group - http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HyGain_3750/ -- Submissions:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe:[EMAIL PROTECTED] - unsubscribe drakelist in body Hopelessly Lost:[EMAIL PROTECTED] - help in body of message Zerobeat Web Page: www.zerobeat.net - sponsored by www.tlchost.net -- -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.19.1/1220 - Release Date: 1/11/2008 6:09 PM
RE: [drakelist] Insanity
"Jim Shorney" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> made an utterance to the drakelist gang -- On Fri, 11 Jan 2008 08:52:45 -0700, sebdesn wrote: >> >> >> haven't found Velco >> that will stick to a dashboard, though... >> > >Go to a fabric/sewing supply store, it comes in several Widths/colors, >and has a gummed back with peel off covering. I just got some for >another project. Thanks, but I'm not overly optimistic. The best I've tried so far is "Industrial Strength" Velcro brand found at the aforementioned hardware store, and it's starting to come loose after not quite a week. The cheap stuff doesn't last a day. I really don't want to have to epoxy it to the dash, but that's what it may take. 73 -Jim -- Ham Radio NU0C TR7/RV7, TR6/RV6, T4XC/R4C, L4B, NCL2000, SB104A, R390A, GT550A/RV550A, HyGain 3750, IBM PS/2 - all vintage, all the time! HyGain 3750 User's Group - http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HyGain_3750/ -- Submissions:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe:[EMAIL PROTECTED] - unsubscribe drakelist in body Hopelessly Lost:[EMAIL PROTECTED] - help in body of message Zerobeat Web Page: www.zerobeat.net - sponsored by www.tlchost.net --
RE: [drakelist] Insanity
"Jim Shorney" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> made an utterance to the drakelist gang -- On Fri, 11 Jan 2008 05:36:04 -0800, Terrell Hamilton wrote: >Ah, Jim boyo, you keep on that track and soon you'll be usin' one of those >horseless carriages or take a trip on them there flyin' machines... Naw, it's all I can do to figure out how to operate this cipherin' machine... 73 -Jim -- Ham Radio NU0C TR7/RV7, TR6/RV6, T4XC/R4C, L4B, NCL2000, SB104A, R390A, GT550A/RV550A, HyGain 3750, IBM PS/2 - all vintage, all the time! HyGain 3750 User's Group - http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HyGain_3750/ -- Submissions:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe:[EMAIL PROTECTED] - unsubscribe drakelist in body Hopelessly Lost:[EMAIL PROTECTED] - help in body of message Zerobeat Web Page: www.zerobeat.net - sponsored by www.tlchost.net --
RE: [drakelist] Insanity
"sebdesn" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> made an utterance to the drakelist gang -- > > > haven't found Velco > that will stick to a dashboard, though... > Go to a fabric/sewing supply store, it comes in several Widths/colors, and has a gummed back with peel off covering. I just got some for another project. 73 de Bud WOHG -- Submissions:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe:[EMAIL PROTECTED] - unsubscribe drakelist in body Hopelessly Lost:[EMAIL PROTECTED] - help in body of message Zerobeat Web Page: www.zerobeat.net - sponsored by www.tlchost.net --
Re: [drakelist] Insanity
Given that you have the pins, I have some that are already mounted to a piece of plastic from who knows what use, you can mount "unmounted" pins to a piece of plastic, thin cardboard, or whatever.? Then you can "mold" a connector around the pins by using either fast setting epoxy or RTV.? Not pretty, but it does the job.? As to the original connectors, I'm saving my used and unused ones as my retirement package... -Original Message- From: Wayne Rogers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Fri, 11 Jan 2008 8:28 am Subject: Re: [drakelist] Insanity "Wayne Rogers" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> made an utterance to the drakelist gang? --? I haven't been paying attention to this string until today.? ? I got my L4-B about six years ago - without the vox plug. I asked the question on the Amps list, and the answer I got was to use the pins from one of the old style crystal holders - I don't remember the name, but they are the ones with the brown plastic case and removable side. You have to remove the pins from the case and as Garey says 'make a new housing out of plastic. I just soldered them on to the ends of the wire and stuck them into the socket - not elegant, but works fine.? ? Wayne N1WR? ? - Original Message - From: "Garey Barrell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>? To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>? Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2008 10:11 PM? Subject: Re: [drakelist] Insanity? ? >? > Garey Barrell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> made an utterance to the drakelist > gang? > --? > It's smaller than either of you think!? >? > The pins are 0.093" in diameter. Some have made a connector from #11? > solid copper wire. Various schemes have been tried with plastic and/or? > epoxy to build up a connector body around the two pieces of wire. #11? > wire is 0.0907", and tinning it with solder should make it just about? > right. I would tin it to ward off corrosion. Unfortunately, #11 is NOT? > a common size (to say the least!). #10 is 0.1019", which is a little? > large, and is probably what the "plug builders" used. I don't know if? > that is large enough to damage the female connector or not. The pins? > are spaced 0.350" c-c. A better choice might be some 3/32" dia (0.0937)? > brass tubing from the hobby shop. It would give a more reliable? > electrical connection to the wire. Think that's what I'd do.? >? > By the way, on the L-4B parts lists, February 1, 1971 they were described > > as:? >? > Plug, VOX Relay, 2 Pin.. $0.20? >? > 73, Garey - K4OAH? > Glen Allen, VA? >? > Drake 2-B, 4-B & C-Line Service Supplement CDs? > ? >? >? >? > Jim Shorney wrote:? >> "Jim Shorney" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> made an utterance to the drakelist >> gang? >> --? >> On Thu, 10 Jan 2008 05:37:20 -0800, Terrell Hamilton wrote:? >>? >>? >>> You know, Jim - I don't know how they match up size-wise, but it looks >>> >>> just? >>> like those European converter plugs that attach on the line cord end of >>> >>> US? >>> electric razers. If they fit, maybe a little fabrication could get you >>> >>> that? >>> case of plugs.? >>>? >>? >>? >> To me, it resembles the classic 300-ohm TV twinlead quick connect plug >> >> that? >> used to be common. Something to think about, anyway. Too bad my TARDIS is >> >> on? >> the blink...? >>? >>? >>? >? > --? > Submissions: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Unsubscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - unsubscribe drakelist in body? > Hopelessly Lost: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - help in body of message? > Zerobeat Web Page: www.zerobeat.net - sponsored by www.tlchost.net? > -- ? --? Submissions: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - unsubscribe drakelist in body? Hopelessly Lost: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - help in body of message? Zerobeat Web Page: www.zerobeat.net - sponsored by www.tlchost.net? --? More new features than ever. Check out the new AOL Mail ! - http://webmail.aol.com
RE: [drakelist] Insanity
"Terrell Hamilton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> made an utterance to the drakelist gang -- Ah, Jim boyo, you keep on that track and soon you'll be usin' one of those horseless carriages or take a trip on them there flyin' machines... -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jim Shorney Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2008 7:29 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [drakelist] Insanity Peronally, I'd just change it over to another type of jack. This is one case where "keeping things original" defies all sense, common or otherwise. -- Submissions:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe:[EMAIL PROTECTED] - unsubscribe drakelist in body Hopelessly Lost:[EMAIL PROTECTED] - help in body of message Zerobeat Web Page: www.zerobeat.net - sponsored by www.tlchost.net -- -- Submissions:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe:[EMAIL PROTECTED] - unsubscribe drakelist in body Hopelessly Lost:[EMAIL PROTECTED] - help in body of message Zerobeat Web Page: www.zerobeat.net - sponsored by www.tlchost.net --
Re: [drakelist] Insanity
"Wayne Rogers" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> made an utterance to the drakelist gang -- I haven't been paying attention to this string until today. I got my L4-B about six years ago - without the vox plug. I asked the question on the Amps list, and the answer I got was to use the pins from one of the old style crystal holders - I don't remember the name, but they are the ones with the brown plastic case and removable side. You have to remove the pins from the case and as Garey says 'make a new housing out of plastic. I just soldered them on to the ends of the wire and stuck them into the socket - not elegant, but works fine. Wayne N1WR - Original Message - From: "Garey Barrell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2008 10:11 PM Subject: Re: [drakelist] Insanity Garey Barrell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> made an utterance to the drakelist gang -- It's smaller than either of you think! The pins are 0.093" in diameter. Some have made a connector from #11 solid copper wire. Various schemes have been tried with plastic and/or epoxy to build up a connector body around the two pieces of wire. #11 wire is 0.0907", and tinning it with solder should make it just about right. I would tin it to ward off corrosion. Unfortunately, #11 is NOT a common size (to say the least!). #10 is 0.1019", which is a little large, and is probably what the "plug builders" used. I don't know if that is large enough to damage the female connector or not. The pins are spaced 0.350" c-c. A better choice might be some 3/32" dia (0.0937) brass tubing from the hobby shop. It would give a more reliable electrical connection to the wire. Think that's what I'd do. By the way, on the L-4B parts lists, February 1, 1971 they were described as: Plug, VOX Relay, 2 Pin..$0.20 73, Garey - K4OAH Glen Allen, VA Drake 2-B, 4-B & C-Line Service Supplement CDs Jim Shorney wrote: "Jim Shorney" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> made an utterance to the drakelist gang -- On Thu, 10 Jan 2008 05:37:20 -0800, Terrell Hamilton wrote: You know, Jim - I don't know how they match up size-wise, but it looks just like those European converter plugs that attach on the line cord end of US electric razers. If they fit, maybe a little fabrication could get you that case of plugs. To me, it resembles the classic 300-ohm TV twinlead quick connect plug that used to be common. Something to think about, anyway. Too bad my TARDIS is on the blink... -- Submissions:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe:[EMAIL PROTECTED] - unsubscribe drakelist in body Hopelessly Lost:[EMAIL PROTECTED] - help in body of message Zerobeat Web Page: www.zerobeat.net - sponsored by www.tlchost.net -- -- Submissions:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe:[EMAIL PROTECTED] - unsubscribe drakelist in body Hopelessly Lost:[EMAIL PROTECTED] - help in body of message Zerobeat Web Page: www.zerobeat.net - sponsored by www.tlchost.net --
Re: [drakelist] Insanity
"Jim Shorney" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> made an utterance to the drakelist gang -- On Thu, 10 Jan 2008 22:33:42 -0500, Garey Barrell wrote: > >That connector went missing almost as soon as they designed it in. >All because they wanted to have TWO isolated pins rather than ONE pin >and chassis ground. The solution there would be to mount the RCA connector to a non-metallic plate. Or, use the TV twinlead jack. Maybe they were afraid some users would plug the radio into thier TV antenna... -- Jim Shorney -->.<--Put complaints in this box jshorney (at) inebraska.com Ham Radio NU0C Lincoln, NE, USA EN10ps http://incolor.inetnebr.com/jshorney/ -- Submissions:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe:[EMAIL PROTECTED] - unsubscribe drakelist in body Hopelessly Lost:[EMAIL PROTECTED] - help in body of message Zerobeat Web Page: www.zerobeat.net - sponsored by www.tlchost.net --
Re: [drakelist] Insanity
Garey Barrell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> made an utterance to the drakelist gang -- Jim - Yeah, which is why Drake offered a "conversion kit" for the amp that consisted of a small aluminum plate with two holes that lined up with the original connector mounting hardware, and one hole in the center for an RCA jack! That connector went missing almost as soon as they designed it in. All because they wanted to have TWO isolated pins rather than ONE pin and chassis ground. 73, Garey - K4OAH Glen Allen, VA Drake 2-B, 4-B & C-Line Service Supplement CDs Jim Shorney wrote: "Jim Shorney" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> made an utterance to the drakelist gang -- On Thu, 10 Jan 2008 22:11:18 -0500, Garey Barrell wrote: A better choice might be some 3/32" dia (0.0937) brass tubing from the hobby shop. I was just in an Ace Hardware store last weekend, and noted that they have brass (and copper) tubing in various small sizes. I still haven't found Velco that will stick to a dashboard, though... By the way, on the L-4B parts lists, February 1, 1971 they were described as: Plug, VOX Relay, 2 Pin..$0.20 Is that what they call "inflation"? :) Peronally, I'd just change it over to another type of jack. This is one case where "keeping things original" defies all sense, common or otherwise. -- Submissions:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe:[EMAIL PROTECTED] - unsubscribe drakelist in body Hopelessly Lost:[EMAIL PROTECTED] - help in body of message Zerobeat Web Page: www.zerobeat.net - sponsored by www.tlchost.net --
Re: [drakelist] Insanity
"Jim Shorney" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> made an utterance to the drakelist gang -- On Thu, 10 Jan 2008 22:11:18 -0500, Garey Barrell wrote: > A better choice might be some 3/32" dia (0.0937) >brass tubing from the hobby shop. I was just in an Ace Hardware store last weekend, and noted that they have brass (and copper) tubing in various small sizes. I still haven't found Velco that will stick to a dashboard, though... >By the way, on the L-4B parts lists, February 1, 1971 they were >described as: > >Plug, VOX Relay, 2 Pin..$0.20 Is that what they call "inflation"? :) Peronally, I'd just change it over to another type of jack. This is one case where "keeping things original" defies all sense, common or otherwise. -- Jim Shorney -->.<--Put complaints in this box jshorney (at) inebraska.com Ham Radio NU0C Lincoln, NE, USA EN10ps http://incolor.inetnebr.com/jshorney/ -- Submissions:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe:[EMAIL PROTECTED] - unsubscribe drakelist in body Hopelessly Lost:[EMAIL PROTECTED] - help in body of message Zerobeat Web Page: www.zerobeat.net - sponsored by www.tlchost.net --
Re: [drakelist] Insanity
Garey Barrell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> made an utterance to the drakelist gang -- It's smaller than either of you think! The pins are 0.093" in diameter. Some have made a connector from #11 solid copper wire. Various schemes have been tried with plastic and/or epoxy to build up a connector body around the two pieces of wire. #11 wire is 0.0907", and tinning it with solder should make it just about right. I would tin it to ward off corrosion. Unfortunately, #11 is NOT a common size (to say the least!). #10 is 0.1019", which is a little large, and is probably what the "plug builders" used. I don't know if that is large enough to damage the female connector or not. The pins are spaced 0.350" c-c. A better choice might be some 3/32" dia (0.0937) brass tubing from the hobby shop. It would give a more reliable electrical connection to the wire. Think that's what I'd do. By the way, on the L-4B parts lists, February 1, 1971 they were described as: Plug, VOX Relay, 2 Pin..$0.20 73, Garey - K4OAH Glen Allen, VA Drake 2-B, 4-B & C-Line Service Supplement CDs Jim Shorney wrote: "Jim Shorney" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> made an utterance to the drakelist gang -- On Thu, 10 Jan 2008 05:37:20 -0800, Terrell Hamilton wrote: You know, Jim - I don't know how they match up size-wise, but it looks just like those European converter plugs that attach on the line cord end of US electric razers. If they fit, maybe a little fabrication could get you that case of plugs. To me, it resembles the classic 300-ohm TV twinlead quick connect plug that used to be common. Something to think about, anyway. Too bad my TARDIS is on the blink... -- Submissions:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe:[EMAIL PROTECTED] - unsubscribe drakelist in body Hopelessly Lost:[EMAIL PROTECTED] - help in body of message Zerobeat Web Page: www.zerobeat.net - sponsored by www.tlchost.net --
RE: [drakelist] Insanity
"Jim Shorney" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> made an utterance to the drakelist gang -- On Thu, 10 Jan 2008 05:37:20 -0800, Terrell Hamilton wrote: >You know, Jim - I don't know how they match up size-wise, but it looks just >like those European converter plugs that attach on the line cord end of US >electric razers. If they fit, maybe a little fabrication could get you that >case of plugs. To me, it resembles the classic 300-ohm TV twinlead quick connect plug that used to be common. Something to think about, anyway. Too bad my TARDIS is on the blink... 73 -Jim -- Ham Radio NU0C TR7/RV7, TR6/RV6, T4XC/R4C, L4B, NCL2000, SB104A, R390A, GT550A/RV550A, HyGain 3750, IBM PS/2 - all vintage, all the time! HyGain 3750 User's Group - http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HyGain_3750/ -- Submissions:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe:[EMAIL PROTECTED] - unsubscribe drakelist in body Hopelessly Lost:[EMAIL PROTECTED] - help in body of message Zerobeat Web Page: www.zerobeat.net - sponsored by www.tlchost.net --
RE: [drakelist] Insanity
"Terrell Hamilton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> made an utterance to the drakelist gang -- You know, Jim - I don't know how they match up size-wise, but it looks just like those European converter plugs that attach on the line cord end of US electric razers. If they fit, maybe a little fabrication could get you that case of plugs. Terry -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jim Shorney Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2008 8:51 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [drakelist] Insanity "Jim Shorney" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> made an utterance to the drakelist gang -- E-Pay item 300186648640 I with I had a case of them 73 -Jim -- Ham Radio NU0C TR7/RV7, TR6/RV6, T4XC/R4C, L4B, NCL2000, SB104A, R390A, GT550A/RV550A, HyGain 3750, IBM PS/2 - all vintage, all the time! HyGain 3750 User's Group - http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HyGain_3750/ -- Submissions:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe:[EMAIL PROTECTED] - unsubscribe drakelist in body Hopelessly Lost:[EMAIL PROTECTED] - help in body of message Zerobeat Web Page: www.zerobeat.net - sponsored by www.tlchost.net -- -- Submissions:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe:[EMAIL PROTECTED] - unsubscribe drakelist in body Hopelessly Lost:[EMAIL PROTECTED] - help in body of message Zerobeat Web Page: www.zerobeat.net - sponsored by www.tlchost.net --
Re: [drakelist] Insanity
Bidders like that are a dime a dozen... The trick is to get them to pay up... 73's, Charlie... - Original Message - From: Jim DiMauro To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2008 6:47 AM Subject: Re: [drakelist] Insanity Jim DiMauro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> made an utterance to the drakelist gang -- I'd also like to have a room full of bidders like radstron. 73, Jim W2BVM --- Jim Shorney <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > "Jim Shorney" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> made an > utterance to the drakelist gang > -- > > E-Pay item 300186648640 > > I with I had a case of them > > > > 73 > > -Jim > > -- > Ham Radio NU0C > TR7/RV7, TR6/RV6, T4XC/R4C, L4B, NCL2000, SB104A, > R390A, GT550A/RV550A, HyGain 3750, IBM PS/2 - all > vintage, all the time! > > HyGain 3750 User's Group - > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HyGain_3750/ > > > -- > Submissions:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Unsubscribe:[EMAIL PROTECTED] - > unsubscribe drakelist in body > Hopelessly Lost:[EMAIL PROTECTED] - help in > body of message > Zerobeat Web Page: www.zerobeat.net - sponsored by > www.tlchost.net > -- > Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ -- Submissions:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe:[EMAIL PROTECTED] - unsubscribe drakelist in body Hopelessly Lost:[EMAIL PROTECTED] - help in body of message Zerobeat Web Page: www.zerobeat.net - sponsored by www.tlchost.net -- -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.19.0/1216 - Release Date: 1/9/2008 10:16 AM
Re: [drakelist] Insanity
Jim DiMauro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> made an utterance to the drakelist gang -- I'd also like to have a room full of bidders like radstron. 73, Jim W2BVM --- Jim Shorney <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > "Jim Shorney" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> made an > utterance to the drakelist gang > -- > > E-Pay item 300186648640 > > I with I had a case of them > > > > 73 > > -Jim > > -- > Ham Radio NU0C > TR7/RV7, TR6/RV6, T4XC/R4C, L4B, NCL2000, SB104A, > R390A, GT550A/RV550A, HyGain 3750, IBM PS/2 - all > vintage, all the time! > > HyGain 3750 User's Group - > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HyGain_3750/ > > > -- > Submissions:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Unsubscribe:[EMAIL PROTECTED] - > unsubscribe drakelist in body > Hopelessly Lost:[EMAIL PROTECTED] - help in > body of message > Zerobeat Web Page: www.zerobeat.net - sponsored by > www.tlchost.net > -- > Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ -- Submissions:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe:[EMAIL PROTECTED] - unsubscribe drakelist in body Hopelessly Lost:[EMAIL PROTECTED] - help in body of message Zerobeat Web Page: www.zerobeat.net - sponsored by www.tlchost.net --
