Re: [Dri-devel] Ann: nightly snapshots resumed

2002-11-01 Thread Sergey V. Udaltsov
Hi all

 They are only bleeding-edge snapshots because the DRI cvs HEAD no longer
 can produce binary compatible snapshots. All new snapshots require to
 download and install XFree86-4.2.99.2 server from
 http://dri.sourceforge.net/snapshots/extras/ . The 'install.sh' script
 attempts to determine your XFree version but this may still be buggy.
 Please report any problems with that.
OK, just took it. First, the script really determines the version - but
allows to proceed. I think it should break unconditionally at this
point.

Also, X server from ../extras just does not work. It break with signal
11.:( Same thing happens after installing dri drivers - this just makes
no difference.

I use plain XFree from RH8.0 (sure, everything is gcc 3.2-built). Any
simple explanations?

Regards,

Sergey



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Re: [Dri-devel] cmpxchg [Was: Slack 8.1 Radeon 8500 64MB]

2002-11-01 Thread Alan Cox
On Thu, 2002-10-31 at 21:59, Alan Hourihane wrote:
 That's debateable.
 
 In current kernels, if it's not defined you've more than likely
 built your kernel with i386 rather than i486 or later, because
 building for i486 or later automatically turns on CONFIG_X86_CMPXCHG.
 I understand that i386's don't have that instruction. 

Correct. DRI can still chose to build itself with that instruction and
optionally also use an exception handler or check the actual CPU itself
(eg when loading the module)




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Re: [Dri-devel] Ann: nightly snapshots resumed

2002-11-01 Thread Jos Fonseca
Sergey,

On Fri, Nov 01, 2002 at 01:01:20PM +, Sergey V. Udaltsov wrote:

Hi all


They are only bleeding-edge snapshots because the DRI cvs HEAD no longer
can produce binary compatible snapshots. All new snapshots require to
download and install XFree86-4.2.99.2 server from
http://dri.sourceforge.net/snapshots/extras/ . The 'install.sh' script
attempts to determine your XFree version but this may still be buggy.
Please report any problems with that.

OK, just took it. First, the script really determines the version - but
allows to proceed. I think it should break unconditionally at this
point.

Also, X server from ../extras just does not work. It break with signal
11.:( Same thing happens after installing dri drivers - this just makes
no difference.

I use plain XFree from RH8.0 (sure, everything is gcc 3.2-built). Any
simple explanations?


Oops... I completely forgot about mach64! Both mach64 and s3virge
snapshots have nothing to do with this craze, and require no X server
update (probably the contrary, as you have experienced). Unfortunately
the install.sh script is the same and it will complain unless it uses a
new version.

I'll have to fix this, probably by using a seperate install.sh for
mach64, or by specifing the necessary XFree86 version on the package
describing file.

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Re: [Dri-devel] Ann: nightly snapshots resumed

2002-11-01 Thread Sergey V. Udaltsov

 I'll have to fix this, probably by using a seperate install.sh for
 mach64, or by specifing the necessary XFree86 version on the package
 describing file.
Great. But why X server from 2.99.1 is not compatible with mach64?? I
though I should not break things at least. Why does it? 

Anyway, I'll try mac64 driver with old XFree and report. Actually,
about a week ago I tried mach64 snapshots on my new RH80 and noticed
some instability - it crashed at some random points (not too frequently
but still annoying). Unfortunately I could not notice any pattern in
these crashes. Anyway, I will take the new snapshot and try.

-- 
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Re: [Dri-devel] Ann: nightly snapshots resumed

2002-11-01 Thread Jos Fonseca
On Fri, Nov 01, 2002 at 01:50:38PM +, Sergey V. Udaltsov wrote:



I'll have to fix this, probably by using a seperate install.sh for
mach64, or by specifing the necessary XFree86 version on the package
describing file.

Great. But why X server from 2.99.1 is not compatible with mach64?? I
though I should not break things at least. Why does it? 

I don't recall exactly what are the problems that cause binary
incompatability. In any case, when XFree 4.3.0 is released, or probably
before that, mach64 will be merged in the trunk and this will no longer
be an issue.


Anyway, I'll try mac64 driver with old XFree and report. Actually,
about a week ago I tried mach64 snapshots on my new RH80 and noticed
some instability - it crashed at some random points (not too frequently
but still annoying). Unfortunately I could not notice any pattern in
these crashes. Anyway, I will take the new snapshot and try.


Ok. Thanks.

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Re: [Dri-devel] Ann: nightly snapshots resumed

2002-11-01 Thread Russ Dill
related note: I was setting up a mach64 for one of my friends, and X
dying with a SIGILL. It looks like the snapshots are being compiled with
686 optimizations (this was a k6)



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Re: [Dri-devel] Ann: nightly snapshots resumed

2002-11-01 Thread Alan Hourihane
On Fri, Nov 01, 2002 at 08:02:10AM -0700, Russ Dill wrote:
 related note: I was setting up a mach64 for one of my friends, and X
 dying with a SIGILL. It looks like the snapshots are being compiled with
 686 optimizations (this was a k6)

If you've ended up using the XFree86 4.2.99.2 Xserver with the mach64
snapshots you've hit a version issue with libpcidata.a.

The functions changed between 4.2.0 and 4.2.99.2 and so a 4.2.99.2
Xserver can no longer load a 4.2.0 libpcidata.a module. You need
the 4.2.99.2 version as well.

Alan.


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Re: [Dri-devel] Ann: nightly snapshots resumed

2002-11-01 Thread Russ Dill
On Fri, 2002-11-01 at 08:15, Alan Hourihane wrote:
 On Fri, Nov 01, 2002 at 08:02:10AM -0700, Russ Dill wrote:
  related note: I was setting up a mach64 for one of my friends, and X
  dying with a SIGILL. It looks like the snapshots are being compiled with
  686 optimizations (this was a k6)
 
 If you've ended up using the XFree86 4.2.99.2 Xserver with the mach64
 snapshots you've hit a version issue with libpcidata.a.
 
 The functions changed between 4.2.0 and 4.2.99.2 and so a 4.2.99.2
 Xserver can no longer load a 4.2.0 libpcidata.a module. You need
 the 4.2.99.2 version as well.

I'm running 4.2.1 (debian sid), and the signal is most definately signal
4, aka SIGILL, aka illegal instruction



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Re: [Dri-devel] Issues w/Viewperf 7 drv-08?

2002-11-01 Thread Keith Whitwell
Ian Romanick wrote:

I'm running Viewperf for the first time.  The drv-08 test doesn't look right
to me using the R100 driver.  For most of the test, the screen is totally
black.  When there is something on the screen, it looks like the far
clip-plane isn't set quite right.  It does NOT look like this
w/LIBGL_ALWAYS_INDIRECT set.  Ideas?


Ian,

I haven't downloaded viewperf 7 yet.  Can you detail your experiences building 
 running it apart from this bug?  IE:  Is it going to be a pita to get 
running, and if so, any helpful hints?

Keith



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Re: [Dri-devel] Ann: nightly snapshots resumed

2002-11-01 Thread Russ Dill
On Fri, 2002-11-01 at 08:38, Michel Dänzer wrote:
 On Fre, 2002-11-01 at 16:30, Russ Dill wrote:
  On Fri, 2002-11-01 at 08:15, Alan Hourihane wrote:
   On Fri, Nov 01, 2002 at 08:02:10AM -0700, Russ Dill wrote:
related note: I was setting up a mach64 for one of my friends, and X
dying with a SIGILL. It looks like the snapshots are being compiled with
686 optimizations (this was a k6)
   
   If you've ended up using the XFree86 4.2.99.2 Xserver with the mach64
   snapshots you've hit a version issue with libpcidata.a.
   
   The functions changed between 4.2.0 and 4.2.99.2 and so a 4.2.99.2
   Xserver can no longer load a 4.2.0 libpcidata.a module. You need
   the 4.2.99.2 version as well.
  
  I'm running 4.2.1 (debian sid), and the signal is most definately signal
  4, aka SIGILL, aka illegal instruction
 
 Have you read http://dri.sourceforge.net/snapshots/README.Debian ?

have you noticed that these snapshots are a month old? (or 2 weeks in
the case of the mach64 branch)

it doesn't change my point though, as far as I can tell, the tgz
snapshots are being compiled with 686 optimizations



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[Dri-devel] Re: [Xpert]Savage and nVidia DRI drivers

2002-11-01 Thread Jens Owen
José Fonseca wrote:


Actually my main interest is the learning experience of making a DRI driver
from ground up - experience which I plan to share by writing a thorough
HOWTO describing the steps and explaining the working of a driver from
the high-level structure to the low-level implementation details. (You
already can see the very first writings on http://dri.sf.net/doc/howto/)


Great!

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[Dri-devel] tdfx driver for voodoo 5 5500 and SLI

2002-11-01 Thread Felipe Bugno
My question is about the voodoo and SLI.
I'm a user of voodoo 5 5500 board and i love this board.
So, i'm (and most of 3dfx users with linux) have much interess
to see SLI work in linux.
Observing the list of devels, my conclusion is:
the radeon devel is much more implemented in relation as 
other chipsets.
Why the radeon developers don't donate 30 minutes per day (or per week)
to colaborate with SLI work??
The users of 3dfx with don't have much programer skills become 
very happy with yours atitude.
Thanks for the drivers!! and have a nice day!!
(sorry for my english, so this is not my native language)


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[Dri-devel] texmem branch CVS stale lock?

2002-11-01 Thread thambj
I tried several times today to download the texmem-0-0-1 branch.  Each
time, when it reaches /cvsroot/dri/xc/xc/extras/x86emu/include, I get
the message

cvs server: [12:53:47] waiting for anoncvs_dri's lock in
/cvsroot/dri/xc/xc/extras/x86em/include

It then prints the same message at every minute.  Could somone with
the appropriate priveledges check if there is a stale lock in that
directory and remove it (if that is in fact the problem)?

Thank you,
Jonathan Thambidurai


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Re: [Dri-devel] tdfx driver for voodoo 5 5500 and SLI

2002-11-01 Thread Jos Fonseca
Felipe,

On Fri, Nov 01, 2002 at 04:18:31PM +, Felipe Bugno wrote:

My question is about the voodoo and SLI.


First I would like to point out that I don't fully understand what you
mean with SLI (Scan Line Interleave I suppose) and its implications with
the voodoo driver. Spite of that, the comments below still hold.


I'm a user of voodoo 5 5500 board and i love this board.
So, i'm (and most of 3dfx users with linux) have much interess
to see SLI work in linux.
Observing the list of devels, my conclusion is:
the radeon devel is much more implemented in relation as 
other chipsets.

There are several reasons for that:
- ATI has funded the radeon driver development in the past
- The Weather Channel is funding the Radeon 8500 development
- The radeon family is recent so it has a large userbase, and
  therefore, more people willing to help _developing_


Why the radeon developers don't donate 30 minutes per day (or per week)
to colaborate with SLI work??


You're making the wrong question. The support for more cards isn't
solved by reorganizing how the existing developers spend their time.
Instead, it will only be solved by having _more_ developers. I would
estimate that roughly it takes about 6 month-man full-time to make a 
full DRI driver. Consider that most of we only do this on part-time and
how many developers we are on total to see how difficult it is to
support all the cards.

So the question you should be asking is why of all those 3dfx and linux
users which have so much interess in seeing SLI working in Linux, not
a single one steped forward to do it so far... Don't forget that the
developers are also users.

The users of 3dfx with don't have much programer skills become 
very happy with yours atitude.

I'm sure they would. But they are no better than the other chips users
(many of whom don't have no 3D support on linux whatsoever), and in the 
end, its the developers' will that really matters. 

Thanks for the drivers!! and have a nice day!!


I'm sorry I can't be of much help to you. Regards,

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Re: [Dri-devel] Multiple PCI Radeon AIW

2002-11-01 Thread James Fung
 After looking at the source, support for multiple cards is only enabled
 in the tdfx DRM yet. The attached hack might serve as a quick'n'dirty
 way to find out the next problem. :)

I added in the #define from the patch.  

When I insmod, it now sees both cards.  I get something like:
[drm] Initialized radeon 1.6.0 20020828 on minor 0
[drm] Initialized radeon 1.6.0 20020828 on minor 1

( Here's the next problem :) )
X, however, doesnt work.  I get 1 blank screen and one with crazy lines
zipping around. 

both cards are seen by X now: 
(II) RADEON(0): [drm] created radeon driver at busid PCI:0:9:0
...
(II) RADEON(1): [drm] created radeon driver at busid PCI:0:13:0
...
but then I get 

(II) RADEON(1): X context handle = 0x0001
(II) RADEON(1): [drm] installed DRM signal handler
(II) RADEON(1): [DRI] installation complete
(II) RADEON(1): [drm] Added 32 65536 byte vertex/indirect buffers
(II) RADEON(1): [drm] Mapped 32 vertex/indirect buffers
(EE) RADEON(1): RADEONDRICPInit: CP start -1007
(EE) RADEON(1): RADEONCPGetBuffer: CP GetBuffer -1007
(EE) RADEON(1): GetBuffer timed out, resetting engine...
(EE) RADEON(1): RADEONCPGetBuffer: CP reset -1007
(EE) RADEON(1): RADEONCPGetBuffer: CP start -1007
(EE) RADEON(1): RADEONCPGetBuffer: CP GetBuffer -1007
(EE) RADEON(1): GetBuffer timed out, resetting engine...
(EE) RADEON(1): RADEONCPGetBuffer: CP reset -1007
(EE) RADEON(1): RADEONCPGetBuffer: CP start -1007
(EE) RADEON(1): RADEONCPGetBuffer: CP GetBuffer -1007
(EE) RADEON(1): GetBuffer timed out, resetting engine...

and so on.

The full log is at 
http://www.eyetap.org/~fungja/radeon/XFree86.0.log.dualradeon

-James



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Re: [Dri-devel] texmem branch CVS stale lock?

2002-11-01 Thread Ian Romanick
On Fri, Nov 01, 2002 at 04:04:45PM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I tried several times today to download the texmem-0-0-1 branch.  Each
 time, when it reaches /cvsroot/dri/xc/xc/extras/x86emu/include, I get
 the message
 
 cvs server: [12:53:47] waiting for anoncvs_dri's lock in
 /cvsroot/dri/xc/xc/extras/x86em/include
 
 It then prints the same message at every minute.  Could somone with
 the appropriate priveledges check if there is a stale lock in that
 directory and remove it (if that is in fact the problem)?

There's basically nothing that can be done.  This happens from time to time,
and the only cure seems to be to wait. :(

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Re: [Dri-devel] texmem branch CVS stale lock?

2002-11-01 Thread Michel Dänzer
On Fre, 2002-11-01 at 22:04, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I tried several times today to download the texmem-0-0-1 branch.  Each
 time, when it reaches /cvsroot/dri/xc/xc/extras/x86emu/include, I get
 the message
 
 cvs server: [12:53:47] waiting for anoncvs_dri's lock in
 /cvsroot/dri/xc/xc/extras/x86em/include
 
 It then prints the same message at every minute.  Could somone with
 the appropriate priveledges check if there is a stale lock in that
 directory and remove it (if that is in fact the problem)?

CVS locks aren't branch specific, it's always the same repository files.

The only thing that can be done is to submit a support request at
https://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?group_id=1atid=21 , which
I've done now (#632332).


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