Re: Accessing AGP

2004-12-28 Thread Philip Armstrong
On Tue, Dec 28, 2004 at 09:10:12AM +0100, Thomas Hellström wrote:
 Vladimir Dergachev wrote:
Can someone more knowledgable explain to me how to properly access AGP
 space from within Mesa driver ?

 This has just been implemented in the Unichrome driver, and I'm not sure 
 wether it's the best or most appopriate way to do it but it works as 
 follows:
 
 1. The Mesa driver fills a malloced system memory buffer with vertex data.
 2. The Mesa driver then calls the DRM through a via-specific IOCTL. 
 (via_ioctl.c)
 3. The via drm copies the buffer to another buffer in kernel system 
 memory ( static storage ), (via_dma.c)
 4. The via drm verifies the content of the buffer to reject buffers that 
 contain commands that are considered harmful. (via_verifier.c)
 5. The buffer is copied to AGP space, and the engine pointers are 
 updated. (via_dma.c)
 
 The reason for 3. is that running the verifier directly on AGP memory is 
 very slow.

Is there some reason you can't run the verifier on the user-space
buffers? Copying the data twice seems terribly wasteful.

Enlightenment requested :)

Phil

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Re: Accessing AGP

2004-12-28 Thread Thomas =?iso-8859-1?Q?Hellstr=F6m?=
 On Tue, Dec 28, 2004 at 09:10:12AM +0100, Thomas Hellström wrote:
 Vladimir Dergachev wrote:
Can someone more knowledgable explain to me how to properly access
 AGP
 space from within Mesa driver ?

 This has just been implemented in the Unichrome driver, and I'm not sure
 wether it's the best or most appopriate way to do it but it works as
 follows:

 1. The Mesa driver fills a malloced system memory buffer with vertex
 data.
 2. The Mesa driver then calls the DRM through a via-specific IOCTL.
 (via_ioctl.c)
 3. The via drm copies the buffer to another buffer in kernel system
 memory ( static storage ), (via_dma.c)
 4. The via drm verifies the content of the buffer to reject buffers that
 contain commands that are considered harmful. (via_verifier.c)
 5. The buffer is copied to AGP space, and the engine pointers are
 updated. (via_dma.c)

 The reason for 3. is that running the verifier directly on AGP memory is
 very slow.

 Is there some reason you can't run the verifier on the user-space
 buffers? Copying the data twice seems terribly wasteful.


Hi!
It's simply because nobody should be allowed to change the buffer contents
after it's been verified, but before it's copied to AGP. I assume at least
a multithreaded DRI application on an SMP machine would be able to do
that. In reality the second copy seems to take very little time.

Ideally one would write a copy_from_user_while_verifying(), but since I'm
not that familiar with kernel programming, I haven't yet.

/Thomas




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Re: [R300] Xorg cvs problem

2004-12-28 Thread Jerome Glisse
Looking everywhere i notice that framebuffer sets the following :
RADEON_DP_DATATYPE to RADEON_HOST_BIG_ENDIAN_EN but
the xfree86 drivers do not seems to worry about this register,
anyway i do not think that this correct the problem but i am
wondering what is the purpose of this register.
framebuffer also set
RADEON_RB2D_DSTCACHE_MODE to 0 for r300 chipset
Anythings that may help ?
I have looked in other radeon driver and found nothing,
beos drivers seems to only support intel arch for r300 :(.
best,
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Re: CVS DRM driver for radeon needed pci=routeirq

2004-12-28 Thread Dave Airlie

Use the linux-core directory in CVS to build not the linux-2.6,

linux-core is the future of DRM, hopefully it will be merged into 2.6.11
soon...

other option is to move the pci_enable_device(pdev) line in drm_stub.h
outside the if statement it is in ..

Dave.

On Sun, 26 Dec 2004, Chris Rankin wrote:

 Hi,

 I just tried booting the new 2.6.10 kernel with the
 radeon DRM module from CVS (at dri.freedesktop.org),
 and the IRQ was left unrouted at IRQ 11:

 [drm] Initialized radeon 1.13.0 20041207 on minor 0:
 ATI Technologies Inc RV280 [Radeon 9200]
 ACPI: PCI interrupt :01:00.0[A] - GSI 16 (level,
 low) - IRQ 16
 agpgart: Found an AGP 3.0 compliant device at
 :00:00.0.
 agpgart: X passes broken AGP3 flags (1f00420f). Fixed.
 agpgart: Putting AGP V3 device at :00:00.0 into 8x
 mode
 agpgart: Putting AGP V3 device at :01:00.0 into 8x
 mode
 Linux video capture interface: v1.00
 [drm] Loading R200 Microcode irq 16: nobody cared!
  [c0134344] __report_bad_irq+0x24/0x7d
  [c0134441] note_interrupt+0x86/0xa5
  [c0133e99] __do_IRQ+0x14d/0x15c  [c0104f02]
 do_IRQ+0x46/0x6a
  ===
  [c0103732] common_interrupt+0x1a/0x20
  [c010101a] default_idle+0x0/0x2f
  [c0101043] default_idle+0x29/0x2f
  [c01010aa] cpu_idle+0x2e/0x3c
  [c031d890] start_kernel+0x15e/0x19a
  [c031d312] unknown_bootoption+0x0/0x1d5
 handlers:
 [f89c5453] (usb_hcd_irq+0x0/0x6f [usbcore])
 Disabling IRQ #16

 Adding the pci=routeirq option fixed things. The
 relevant lspci output is:

 01:00.0 Class 0300: 1002:5961 (rev 01)
 Subsystem: 174b:7c13
 Control: I/O+ Mem+ BusMaster+ SpecCycle-
 MemWINV- VGASnoop- ParErr- Stepping- SERR+ FastB2B-
 Status: Cap+ 66Mhz+ UDF- FastB2B+ ParErr-
 DEVSEL=medium TAbort- TAbort- MAbort- SERR- PERR-
 Latency: 64 (2000ns min), cache line size 10
 Interrupt: pin A routed to IRQ 16
 Region 0: Memory at f000 (32-bit,
 prefetchable) [size=128M]
 Region 1: I/O ports at ec00 [size=256]
 Region 2: Memory at ff8f (32-bit,
 non-prefetchable) [size=64K]
 Expansion ROM at c100 [disabled]
 [size=128K]
 Capabilities: [58] AGP version 3.0
 Status: RQ=256 Iso- ArqSz=0 Cal=0 SBA+
 ITACoh- GART64- HTrans- 64bit- FW+ AGP3+ Rate=x4,x8
 Command: RQ=32 ArqSz=2 Cal=0 SBA+ AGP+
 GART64- 64bit- FW- Rate=x8
 Capabilities: [50] Power Management version 2
 Flags: PMEClk- DSI- D1+ D2+
 AuxCurrent=0mA PME(D0-,D1-,D2-,D3hot-,D3cold-)
 Status: D0 PME-Enable- DSel=0 DScale=0
 PME-

 01:00.1 Class 0380: 1002:5941 (rev 01)
 Subsystem: 174b:7c12
 Control: I/O+ Mem+ BusMaster+ SpecCycle-
 MemWINV- VGASnoop- ParErr- Stepping- SERR- FastB2B-
 Status: Cap+ 66Mhz+ UDF- FastB2B+ ParErr-
 DEVSEL=medium TAbort- TAbort- MAbort- SERR- PERR-
 Latency: 64 (2000ns min), cache line size 10
 Region 0: Memory at e800 (32-bit,
 prefetchable) [size=128M]
 Region 1: Memory at ff8e (32-bit,
 non-prefetchable) [size=64K]
 Capabilities: [50] Power Management version 2
 Flags: PMEClk- DSI- D1+ D2+
 AuxCurrent=0mA PME(D0-,D1-,D2-,D3hot-,D3cold-)
 Status: D0 PME-Enable- DSel=0 DScale=0
 PME-

 I am sending you this email as requested by the dmesg
 output.

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Re: Accessing AGP

2004-12-28 Thread Vladimir Dergachev

This has just been implemented in the Unichrome driver, and I'm not sure 
wether it's the best or most appopriate way to do it but it works as follows:

1. The Mesa driver fills a malloced system memory buffer with vertex data.
2. The Mesa driver then calls the DRM through a via-specific IOCTL. 
(via_ioctl.c)
3. The via drm copies the buffer to another buffer in kernel system memory ( 
static storage ), (via_dma.c)
4. The via drm verifies the content of the buffer to reject buffers that 
contain commands that are considered harmful. (via_verifier.c)
5. The buffer is copied to AGP space, and the engine pointers are updated. 
(via_dma.c)

The reason for 3. is that running the verifier directly on AGP memory is very 
slow.
Hi Thomas,
 Thank you very much for the explanation :)
 What kind of verification of vertex data does unichrome need ?
 thank you !
 Vladimir Dergachev
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Re: [R300] Xorg cvs problem

2004-12-28 Thread Jerome Glisse
Yellow dog seems to have support for radeon 9600.
At least they claim so. I tried to find out the source
of their distribution but only manage to get iso for
binary.
Anyone got source of yellow dog ? Maybe they added
the patch to xfree86, i will give look for that...
Still i am a bit disapointed that i can access the source
of yellow dog, what is open source if you coud not have
them ? :(
best,
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Re: Accessing AGP

2004-12-28 Thread =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Thomas_Hellstr=F6m?=
Hi!
Vladimir Dergachev wrote:

This has just been implemented in the Unichrome driver, and I'm not 
sure wether it's the best or most appopriate way to do it but it 
works as follows:

1. The Mesa driver fills a malloced system memory buffer with 
vertex data.
2. The Mesa driver then calls the DRM through a via-specific IOCTL. 
(via_ioctl.c)
3. The via drm copies the buffer to another buffer in kernel system 
memory ( static storage ), (via_dma.c)
4. The via drm verifies the content of the buffer to reject buffers 
that contain commands that are considered harmful. (via_verifier.c)
5. The buffer is copied to AGP space, and the engine pointers are 
updated. (via_dma.c)

The reason for 3. is that running the verifier directly on AGP memory 
is very slow.

Hi Thomas,
 Thank you very much for the explanation :)
 What kind of verification of vertex data does unichrome need ?
 thank you !
 Vladimir Dergachev
On the Unichrome it's possible to do quite a lot using AGP DMA. Some of 
the things that can be done are not disclosed by VIA, but apparently you 
can blit memory contents from more or less anywhere to more or less 
anywhere

What the command verifier does is that it lets commands thrugh that is 
knows:

1. Only accesses the 2D-engine or Mpeg engine through writes. (Other 
areas are blocked).
2. Does not attempt to fetch memory contents from system memory.
3. Does not attempt to fetch memory contents from AGP memory that is 
outside the user-mappable range (textures).

Frame-buffer memory is considered open territory, as is the 
user-mappable part of AGP-memory. Note that the AGP command buffers must 
NOT reside in the user-mappable parts of AGP-memory.

Regards
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Re: Accessing AGP

2004-12-28 Thread Vladimir Dergachev
What the command verifier does is that it lets commands thrugh that is 
knows:
1. Only accesses the 2D-engine or Mpeg engine through writes. (Other areas 
are blocked).
2. Does not attempt to fetch memory contents from system memory.
3. Does not attempt to fetch memory contents from AGP memory that is outside 
the user-mappable range (textures).

Frame-buffer memory is considered open territory, as is the user-mappable 
part of AGP-memory. Note that the AGP command buffers must NOT reside in the 
user-mappable parts of AGP-memory.
I see. Thank you !
Is it true then that on Unichrome all vertex data is immediate - i.e. 
embedded in the command stream ? This is as opposed to saving it in a 
separate array in AGP memory and only issuing a command to load pointers 
to it via command stream.

   best
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Regards
/Thomas



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Re: Accessing AGP

2004-12-28 Thread Thomas =?iso-8859-1?Q?Hellstr=F6m?=

 What the command verifier does is that it lets commands thrugh that is
 knows:

 1. Only accesses the 2D-engine or Mpeg engine through writes. (Other
 areas
 are blocked).
 2. Does not attempt to fetch memory contents from system memory.
 3. Does not attempt to fetch memory contents from AGP memory that is
 outside
 the user-mappable range (textures).

 Frame-buffer memory is considered open territory, as is the
 user-mappable
 part of AGP-memory. Note that the AGP command buffers must NOT reside in
 the
 user-mappable parts of AGP-memory.

 I see. Thank you !

 Is it true then that on Unichrome all vertex data is immediate - i.e.
 embedded in the command stream ? This is as opposed to saving it in a
 separate array in AGP memory and only issuing a command to load pointers
 to it via command stream.

 best

   Vladimir Dergachev


Yes, that's true as far as I can tell. Texture data is, however, saved in
AGP memory and pointed to by the command stream. This involves allocating
a piece of mappable AGP memory from the drm AGP memory allocator, putting
the data in it and send pointers over the command stream.


/Thomas



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DRI Wiki has bad snapshots links.

2004-12-28 Thread Mike Mestnik
http://dri.freedesktop.org/wiki/Download

Has links to http://www.freedesktop.org/~dri/snapshots/, that should be
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Re: [R300] Xorg cvs problem

2004-12-28 Thread Philipp Klaus Krause
Jerome Glisse schrieb:
Yellow dog seems to have support for radeon 9600.
At least they claim so. I tried to find out the source
of their distribution but only manage to get iso for
binary.
On their site they state that they support only 2D,
no hardware-accelerated 3D.

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Re: [R300] Xorg cvs problem

2004-12-28 Thread Jerome Glisse
Philipp Klaus Krause wrote:
Jerome Glisse schrieb:
Yellow dog seems to have support for radeon 9600.
At least they claim so. I tried to find out the source
of their distribution but only manage to get iso for
binary.

On their site they state that they support only 2D,
no hardware-accelerated 3D.
2D is what is matter here, we are not talking about 3D,
only 2D endianness issue. Thus they may have the solution
if they truely support 2D...
best,
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Re: DRI Wiki has bad snapshots links.

2004-12-28 Thread Adam Jackson
On Tuesday 28 December 2004 14:22, Mike Mestnik wrote:
 http://dri.freedesktop.org/wiki/Download

 Has links to http://www.freedesktop.org/~dri/snapshots/, that should be
 fixed up.  I would be gald to help, but the page is immutable.

This is probably a good time to mention that I've copied the wiki pages across 
to dri.freedesktop.org.  Many links are busted because they're not proper 
WikiWords, and it's still immutable because the ownership on the files needs 
fixing.  The first I can fix with a bit of sed magic, for the second I'll 
need a sitewrangler...

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Re: CVS DRM driver for radeon needed pci=routeirq

2004-12-28 Thread Chris Rankin
 --- Dave Airlie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 
 
 Use the linux-core directory in CVS to build not the
 linux-2.6,
 
 linux-core is the future of DRM, hopefully it will
 be merged into 2.6.11
 soon...
 
 other option is to move the pci_enable_device(pdev)
 line in drm_stub.h
 outside the if statement it is in ..

Thanks; I was indeed using the CVS linux-2.6
directory. All I was really looking for was the 'most
stable' DRM code to use with Xorg 6.8.1, and that code
did not seem to be the code that shipped with the
kernel sources. (One of the 'migration' threads in
2.6.9 was consuming a lot of CPU time with the in-tree
radeon module.)

Is the CVS linux-2.6 directory considered 'dead',
then? It seems stable enough. How stable is code in
linux-core?

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Re: CVS DRM driver for radeon needed pci=routeirq

2004-12-28 Thread Dave Airlie

 Thanks; I was indeed using the CVS linux-2.6
 directory. All I was really looking for was the 'most
 stable' DRM code to use with Xorg 6.8.1, and that code
 did not seem to be the code that shipped with the
 kernel sources. (One of the 'migration' threads in
 2.6.9 was consuming a lot of CPU time with the in-tree
 radeon module.)

the kernel tree contains the stable drm, there should be no-known issues
in it :-), the development tree is in CVS, linux-core is the new style drm
and this is hopefully going to be merged to the kernel rsn...

 Is the CVS linux-2.6 directory considered 'dead',
 then? It seems stable enough. How stable is code in
 linux-core?

in my mind linux-2.6 and others are dead wood, future features in the main
drm should happen in linux-core, driver features are usually added to both
trees for ppl running 2.4

but CVS should be more unstable than kernel tree...

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Re: dri_util.c:157: warning: pointer targets differ in signedness.

2004-12-28 Thread John Lightsey
First let me say that if anyone would like to take over updating the
dri-trunk-sid packages on a semi-regular basis, I'd really appreciate
it.  I don't track the Debian X or DRI mailing lists closely enough to
keep up with changes.

On Tue, 2004-12-28 at 15:00 -0800, Mike Mestnik wrote:
 The source I'm using contains the old DRI xc.  I can see where the old xc
 source is needed to build the OLD Xserver and Mesa is needed there to
 build it's dri, glx, and opengl Xdrivers.  How ever I can't see why this
 old xc code has not been diffed in to debian's Xfree86?  Would submitting
 a patch to TDBTS help?
 

I'm not a member of the Debian X team so I don't speak for them, but I
wouldn't expect that a patch of DRI's changes to XFree86 will be
accepted.  The reason I started updating Michel Daenzer's packages was
that I needed MergedFB support and wanted some of the fixes that were
being incorporated into DRI.  Requests for MergedFB in Debian's X
packages date back to June 2003.  I wouldn't imagine there will be any
major changes to Debian's X until Sarge releases.

 At this time Xorg is used for most of the DRI development.  It also seams
 that the dri, glx, and opengl Xdrivers can be built in the Mesa tree with
 libGL and the dri_ Xdrivers.  Since Mesa is now able to build against
 Xfree86 and Xorg this would seam to fix most of the problems.
 

This is news to me.  I thought the current recommended way of doing
things was to build an Xorg xserver, glx, and libgl, then build the 3D
drivers in Mesa.

http://dri.sourceforge.net/cgi-bin/moin.cgi/Building

Rather than updating the dri-trunk-sid packages to build Xorg it might
be easier to direct users to the experimental Xorg packages at

http://debian.linux-systeme.com/

With a new libGL in place, installing Mesa and drm CVS by hand isn't
that difficult and doesn't have to overwrite the packaged X server.  It
would be nice if driconf had a way of overriding LIBGL_DRIVERS_PATH on a
per-user or global basis though.

 I got this after cvs updating the tar.gz of the unofficial debian
 source... This source is at least missing the DRI_NEW_INTERFACE_ONLY
 define dri_util.c:1073, cause it uses the xc Makefiles to build Mesa.
  
 dri_util.c: In function `glx_find_dri_screen':
 dri_util.c:157: warning: pointer targets in passing arg 1 of
 `glXGetProcAddress' differ in signedness

I ran into the same problem, but this message convinced me there was
little point in trying to fix it.

http://www.mail-archive.com/dri-devel@lists.sourceforge.net/msg20719.html

John


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