Re: What can the FSF do to help?

2006-09-12 Thread Philip Armstrong
On Tue, Sep 12, 2006 at 03:55:40AM +0200, Hanno Böck wrote:
 Am Montag, 11. September 2006 22:09 schrieb John Sullivan:
  The Free Software Foundation had listed http://r300.sf.net/ as a High
  Priority Project.

 I think nouveau (nouveau.freedesktop.org) should gain the same
 priority. It's trying to do the things the r300-project successfuly
 did for many cards on the nvidia-side.

Likewise for the newer ATI chips with no 2D engine. Am I right that at
the moment these have no X11 support whatsoever?

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Re: What can the FSF do to help?

2006-09-12 Thread Michel Dänzer
On Tue, 2006-09-12 at 07:58 +0100, Philip Armstrong wrote:
 On Tue, Sep 12, 2006 at 03:55:40AM +0200, Hanno Böck wrote:
  Am Montag, 11. September 2006 22:09 schrieb John Sullivan:
   The Free Software Foundation had listed http://r300.sf.net/ as a High
   Priority Project.
 
  I think nouveau (nouveau.freedesktop.org) should gain the same
  priority. It's trying to do the things the r300-project successfuly
  did for many cards on the nvidia-side.
 
 Likewise for the newer ATI chips with no 2D engine.

No such thing yet. X1xxx still have the same old 2D accelerator, 'just'
the display engine is completely new.

 Am I right that at the moment these have no X11 support whatsoever?

The only options at this time are ATI's proprietary driver or a generic
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Re: What can the FSF do to help?

2006-09-12 Thread Jacek Poplawski
On 9/11/06, John Sullivan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
We are interested in ideas for how we can help contribute to the project'sdevelopment (and to the overall goals of performing 3D video drivers for freesoftware operating systems).1) Talk to ATI/AMD about releasing at least some documentation for newer chips
2) Talk to distributions to enable acceleration for r300 by default and put more OpenGL applications(there are many playable OpenGL games, and few mature apps like Blender)-- Free Software - find interesting programs and change them
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R300 benchmark, rough compatibility list, status, config

2006-09-12 Thread Paul Heldens
Hi, I updated the wiki a bit for R300 a while ago, the fairly complete 
quake3 benchmark may interest devs and users alike. Please add your own 
experiences.

The configuration indicated with *** in  my quake3 benchmark is the most 
speedy without getting hardlocks for me.

Benchmark:
http://dri.freedesktop.org/wiki/R300%20Benchmark

Compat List:
http://dri.freedesktop.org/wiki/R300%20Application

Config: 
http://dri.freedesktop.org/wiki/ATIRadeon#head-8851142da56fd885ce668a165b33fee7003e858d


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Re: R300 benchmark, rough compatibility list, status, config

2006-09-12 Thread Hanno Böck
Am Dienstag, 12. September 2006 15:21 schrieb Paul Heldens:
 Attempt to concentrate this:
 http://dri.freedesktop.org/wiki/R300_20Portal

Very good, could someone provide a big link from the old r300.sf.net-page to 
it? (or just remove that and forward?)
I think that's still the place were many people are looking for infos.

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R300 Spring RTS performance

2006-09-12 Thread Paul Heldens
Hi, I've been playing the beautifull (semi)OSS RTS game Spring for a 
while now on R300, and I wondered if there is something bogging down the 
performance. Maybe a developer who likes this game could look at the 
used GL functions/extensions, and whether they are accelerated on R300, 
since I suspect something like this is slowing it down.

A radeon 7000 on windows outperforms my r300 powered X700.
I have not tried this game with firegl for comparison.

If more people tried it out maybe we could improve it's performance on 
open systems.

Screenies:
http://taspring.clan-sy.com/screenshots.php

Quick generic svn pull/build/launch script:
http://taspring.clan-sy.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?t=6905

A more detailed and also distro specific installation version, with 
dependencies, is available in the wiki:
http://taspring.clan-sy.com/wiki/Linux

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Re: R300 benchmark, rough compatibility list, status, config

2006-09-12 Thread Zoltan Boszormenyi
Hi

Paul Heldens írta:
 Hi, I updated the wiki a bit for R300 a while ago, the fairly complete 
 quake3 benchmark may interest devs and users alike. Please add your own 
 experiences.

 The configuration indicated with *** in  my quake3 benchmark is the most 
 speedy without getting hardlocks for me.

 Benchmark:
 http://dri.freedesktop.org/wiki/R300%20Benchmark

 Compat List:
 http://dri.freedesktop.org/wiki/R300%20Application
   

would you please create a hardware/driver compat list, too?

I mean, at present, I am running a dual-seat machine
with two Radeons, one AGP8x 9200SE and one PCI 7000VE.
They are running great, I am using Option VGAAccess off
cmdline option -sharevts and the evdev driver to run
two different X servers on the two cards, two independent
keyboards and mice. What I would like to see in the compat
list is which combinations of cards can run with which
combinations of drivers. Obviously from my example,
r100 and r200 can run together, both are DRI enabled.
The problem is the load on the PCI bus when two kids
play SuperTux simultaneously, everything is slow if something
heavy is running on the PCI Radeon, because disc accesses
has to race with the display output. I would like to see
a test where a disk benchmark is run while one and both
cards are loaded with heavy memory moves. SuperTux
in SDL / OpenGL mode is fine. :-)

Best regards,
Zoltán Böszörményi

 Config: 
 http://dri.freedesktop.org/wiki/ATIRadeon#head-8851142da56fd885ce668a165b33fee7003e858d


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[Bug 8218] Errors during World of Warcraft stress test

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--- Additional Comments From [EMAIL PROTECTED]  2006-09-12 13:30 ---
I have dug a little deeper into this issue, and it looks like the first problem
mentioned in the bug description is actually two distinct problems: the
stretched text problem and the blank minimap problem. These two problems
both manifest under exactly the same conditions, namely entering a building.
However, the stretched text problem can be worked around by disabling the
GL_ARB_vertex_buffer_object extension. I have not yet been able to work around
the blank minimap problem.

I have also noticed that the blank minimap problem goes away when you leave
the building in question, whereas the stretched text problem does not. The
only way to resolve the stretched text problem once it appears is to restart
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[Bug 8243] New: X.org-7.1 and older locks up with radeon driver

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   Summary: X.org-7.1 and older locks up with radeon driver
   Product: DRI
   Version: XOrg CVS
  Platform: PC
OS/Version: Linux
Status: NEW
  Severity: major
  Priority: P2
 Component: DRM modules
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ReportedBy: [EMAIL PROTECTED]


I've built X.Org-7.1 from sources, with Mesa-6.5 and kernel 2.6.17.8
When i'm trying to start X with dri module enabled in xorg.conf - X server locks
up with black screen on startup, and reboot needed..
The same behavior with Xorg-7.0. When i comment load of dri in xorg.conf x
server starts without problems.
--

lspci pci bridge and video card:
00:01.0 PCI bridge: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT8371 [KX133 AGP]  (prog-if 00
[Normal decode])
Flags: bus master, 66Mhz, medium devsel, latency 0
Bus: primary=00, secondary=01, subordinate=01, sec-latency=0
I/O behind bridge: c000-cfff
Memory behind bridge: e000-e1ff
Prefetchable memory behind bridge: d800-dfff
Capabilities: available only to root

01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc: Unknown device 5157
(prog-if 00 [VGA])
Subsystem: Unknown device 1787:0207
Flags: bus master, stepping, 66Mhz, medium devsel, latency 32, IRQ 10
Memory at d800 (32-bit, prefetchable) [size=128M]
I/O ports at c000 [size=256]
Memory at e100 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=64K]
Expansion ROM at e000 [disabled] [size=128K]
Capabilities: available only to root
-

dmesg output:
radeonfb: Found Intel x86 BIOS ROM Image
radeonfb: Retrieved PLL infos from BIOS
radeonfb: Reference=27.00 MHz (RefDiv=12) Memory=270.00 Mhz, System=200.00 MHz
radeonfb: PLL min 12000 max 4
radeonfb: Monitor 1 type CRT found
radeonfb: EDID probed
radeonfb: Monitor 2 type no found
radeonfb (:01:00.0): ATI Radeon QW 
Linux agpgart interface v0.101 (c) Dave Jones
agpgart: Detected VIA KX133 chipset
agpgart: AGP aperture is 128M @ 0xd000
[drm] Initialized drm 1.0.1 20051102
ACPI: PCI Interrupt :01:00.0[A] - Link [LNKA] - GSI 10 (level, low) - 
IRQ 10
[drm] Initialized radeon 1.24.0 20060225 on minor 0

xorg.conf modules and device section:
Section Module
Loaddbe   # Double buffer extension
SubSection  extmod
  Optionomit xfree86-dga 
EndSubSection

Load/usr/X11R7/lib/xorg/modules/fonts/libfreetype.so
Loadi2c
Loaddri
Loadglx

EndSection
Section Device
Identifier  r7500
VendorName  ATI
BoardName   Radeon 7500

Option  AccelMethod exa #i've tried with std method - no difference
Driver  radeon
Option  NoAccel 0
Option  SWcursor 1
Option  BusType PCI
EndSection
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and finally xorg logfile after reboot:
_XSERVTransSocketOpenCOTSServer: Unable to open socket for inet6
_XSERVTransOpen: transport open failed for inet6/dslin.home:0
_XSERVTransMakeAllCOTSServerListeners: failed to open listener for inet6

X Window System Version 7.1.0
Release Date: 22 May 2006
X Protocol Version 11, Revision 0, Release 7.1
Build Operating System: Linux 2.6.17.8 i686 
Current Operating System: Linux dslin.home 2.6.17.8 #8 PREEMPT Fri Sep 1
03:25:27 EDT 2006 i686
Build Date: 12 September 2006
Before reporting problems, check http://wiki.x.org
to make sure that you have the latest version.
Module Loader present
Markers: (--) probed, (**) from config file, (==) default setting,
(++) from command line, (!!) notice, (II) informational,
(WW) warning, (EE) error, (NI) not implemented, (??) unknown.
(==) Log file: /usr/X11R71/var/log/Xorg.0.log, Time: Wed Sep 13 00:55:58 2006
(==) Using config file: /etc/X11/xorg.conf
(==) ServerLayout Server Layout
(**) |--Screen Monitor (0)
(**) |   |--Monitor SyncMaster 710v
(**) |   |--Device r7500
(**) |--Input Device Mouse1
(**) |--Input Device Keyboard1
(**) FontPath set to:
/usr/share/fonts/msttf/,
/usr/X11R71/lib/X11/fonts/misc/,
/usr/X11R71/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/:unscaled,
/usr/X11R71/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/:unscaled,
/usr/X11R71/lib/X11/fonts/Type1/,
/usr/X11R71/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/,
/usr/X11R71/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/
(**) RgbPath set to /usr/X11R71/share/X11/rgb
(**) ModulePath set to /usr/X11R71/lib/xorg/modules
(WW) Open ACPI failed (/var/run/acpid.socket) (No such file or directory)
(II) No APM support in BIOS or kernel
(II) Module ABI versions:
X.Org ANSI C Emulation: 0.3
X.Org Video Driver: 1.0
  

[Bug 5999] problems with r300 and metacity compositing manager

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i see the white screen (as in the screenshot) with ubuntu's spiftacity
package, which seems to be the 2.13.89 version of metacity compiled w/
compositor enabled, compiled against libcm 0.0.16.  I see a similar, but blue,
screen with a self compiled version of metacity 2.16.1 with cvs libcm.  in both
cases, I don't see the message that pavel does, but I do see the message
described in bug 6689.  attaching xorg.conf  
 
 
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i915: docs?

2006-09-12 Thread res
Hi,
I wonder if there is some technical documentation available for the
i915. Like, what fragment program commands are available, what are their
limitations... rummaging around the intel site wasn't very fruitful. But
I mean, somehow the i915 must've got written...

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[Bug 8246] New: Recent DRM r200 driver stop working with 'failure adding irq handler'

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   Summary: Recent DRM r200 driver stop working with 'failure adding
irq handler'
   Product: DRI
   Version: XOrg CVS
  Platform: Other
OS/Version: Linux
Status: NEW
  Severity: normal
  Priority: P2
 Component: DRM modules
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After git update of r200 driver direct rendering stop to work on my system
(Pegasos 2 G4 1GHz 1GB Radeon 9000) Previously I used a bit older snapshot
without any problems, but recent version doesn't work.

glxinfo reports 'direct rendering: No' and looking in the logs showed me
something like that:

(II) RADEON(0): [drm] failure adding irq handler, there is a device already
using that irq
[drm] falling back to irq-free operation

I guess this is reason of my problem.  
 
 
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[Bug 8246] Recent DRM r200 driver stop working with 'failure adding irq handler'

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[Bug 8246] Recent DRM r200 driver stop working with 'failure adding irq handler'

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[Bug 8246] Recent DRM r200 driver stop working with 'failure adding irq handler'

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[Bug 8056] s3tc broken in ut2004

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--- Additional Comments From [EMAIL PROTECTED]  2006-09-12 20:56 ---
(In reply to comment #11)
 (In reply to comment #10)
  (In reply to comment #9)
   It is common knowledge that r300 is slow, but UT 2004 is playable 
   provided you
   set UseVBO=True. This should give a 3x speedup.
  
  I've changed that, it seems to make a big difference if s3tc is enabled, but
  still not playable.  I have a somewhat serious interest in working on r300
  though, and I've been trying to reproduce the texture corruption issue with 
  my
  own simple opengl commands.  So far, I have a spinning cube with a texture 
  on
  the sides, and I have r300 warning my about the multitexturing problems, 
  but the
  texture still looks fine.  I'm going to find out about how to use 
  multitexturing
  and add to my code till I hopefully reproduce the problem.  Anyone have any
  advice for me?
 
 http://www.rasterburn.org/~aet/multiarb1.c
 
 

Ok, I reproduced the issue like so:

RCS file: /cvs/mesa/Mesa/progs/demos/multiarb.c,v
retrieving revision 1.15
diff -u -r1.15 multiarb.c
--- multiarb.c  9 Jan 2005 17:39:06 -   1.15
+++ multiarb.c  13 Sep 2006 03:50:57 -
@@ -256,13 +256,13 @@
   glTexParameteri(GL_TEXTURE_2D, GL_TEXTURE_MAG_FILTER, GL_NEAREST);

   if (i == 0) {
- if (!LoadRGBMipmaps(TEXTURE_1_FILE, GL_RGB)) {
+ if (!LoadRGBMipmaps(TEXTURE_1_FILE, 
GL_COMPRESSED_RGBA_S3TC_DXT3_EXT)) {
 printf(Error: couldn't load texture image\n);
 exit(1);
  }
   }
   else if (i == 1) {
- if (!LoadRGBMipmaps(TEXTURE_2_FILE, GL_RGB)) {
+ if (!LoadRGBMipmaps(TEXTURE_2_FILE, 
GL_COMPRESSED_RGBA_S3TC_DXT3_EXT)) {
 printf(Error: couldn't load texture image\n);
 exit(1);
  }

When you right click on the demo window and enable some of the checkered
textures, they should be messed up if you have changed the format as above.  I
had gotten multitexturing working yesterday, but I think the problems only
happen when mixing the compressed textures with uncompressed ones?  
 
 
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