Re: results of Radeon 9800 Pro test
Just tested Asus X550 on Asus A8V-XE motherboard with Sempron 3000.Return To Castle Wolfenstein and NeverBall work perfectly stable and very fast.I had problems with starting Doom3, will work on it later. I was expecting problems with DRI - there are none. Real problems are with sata support for this motherboard :)-- Free Software - find interesting programs and change themNetHack - meet interesting creatures, kill them and eat their bodies Usenet - meet interesting people from all over the world and flame themDecopter - unrealistic helicopter simulator, get it from http://decopter.sf.net - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnk&kid=120709&bid=263057&dat=121642-- ___ Dri-devel mailing list Dri-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/dri-devel
Re: results of Radeon 9800 Pro test
Jacek Poplawski wrote: > > I updated my drivers from CVS on August 29th > > > I use binary package xf86-video-ati 6.6.2-1 from Arch Linux testing > repository > > glxinfo shows: > OpenGL renderer string: Mesa DRI R300 20060815 AGP 1x > x86/MMX+/3DNow!+/SSE TCL > > xorg shows: > Chipset ATI Radeon 9800PRO NH (AGP) found > > 800x600 resolution, > > > I use 1024x768 resolution > > lowest quality video settings, > > > I tried lowest with all advanced options disabled except bump mapping > and the result was 12fps, I turnet off bumpmapping (because I haven't > seen it) and the result was: > > 2148 frames rendered in 161.3 seconds = 13.3 fps I tried the same settings (1024x768 with all advanced options disabled) and got 9.4 FPS this time. So I'm getting closer. I actually have a 9800 from work that I can bring home and try with over the weekend, hopefully, just to see if that makes a difference. Adam - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnk&kid=120709&bid=263057&dat=121642 -- ___ Dri-devel mailing list Dri-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/dri-devel
Re: results of Radeon 9800 Pro test
I changed xorg.conf: Option "AccelMethod" "EXA" Option "AGPMode" "4" Option "AGPFastWrite" "true" Option "RenderAccel" "true" Option "ColorTiling" "true"Before, all these options were commented out, now glxinfo shows:OpenGL renderer string: Mesa DRI R300 20060815 AGP 4x x86/MMX+/3DNow!+/SSE TCLand demo1 on high quality shows: 2148 frames rendered in 203.3 seconds = 10.6 fps-- Free Software - find interesting programs and change themNetHack - meet interesting creatures, kill them and eat their bodiesUsenet - meet interesting people from all over the world and flame them Decopter - unrealistic helicopter simulator, get it from http://decopter.sf.net - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnk&kid=120709&bid=263057&dat=121642-- ___ Dri-devel mailing list Dri-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/dri-devel
Re: results of Radeon 9800 Pro test
High quality, 1024x768, advanced options enabled except antialiasing and sync:2148 frames rendered in 243.2 seconds = 8.8 fpsMaybe Radeon 9800 just works better with DRI than other cards? -- Free Software - find interesting programs and change themNetHack - meet interesting creatures, kill them and eat their bodiesUsenet - meet interesting people from all over the world and flame themDecopter - unrealistic helicopter simulator, get it from http://decopter.sf.net - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnk&kid=120709&bid=263057&dat=121642-- ___ Dri-devel mailing list Dri-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/dri-devel
Re: results of Radeon 9800 Pro test
I updated my drivers from CVS on August 29th I use binary package xf86-video-ati 6.6.2-1 from Arch Linux testing repositoryglxinfo shows:OpenGL renderer string: Mesa DRI R300 20060815 AGP 1x x86/MMX+/3DNow!+/SSE TCLxorg shows:Chipset ATI Radeon 9800PRO NH (AGP) found 800x600 resolution, I use 1024x768 resolution lowest quality video settings, I tried lowest with all advanced options disabled except bump mapping and the result was 12fps, I turnet off bumpmapping (because I haven't seen it) and the result was: 2148 frames rendered in 161.3 seconds = 13.3 fpsI think it's more like 15fps, but there are occasional slowdowns to something like 1fps.I will make more tests later. arb renderer, sameon adual 2.8 gig xeon with a gig of RAM. Athlon XP 1800, 768MB Have you run demo1? I entered "timedemo demo1" on console What's your system configuration? See first post in thread. Made any changesto your doom config file? Only changed renderer. Anything special in your .drirc? I don't even have it. -- Free Software - find interesting programs and change themNetHack - meet interesting creatures, kill them and eat their bodiesUsenet - meet interesting people from all over the world and flame them Decopter - unrealistic helicopter simulator, get it from http://decopter.sf.net - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnk&kid=120709&bid=263057&dat=121642-- ___ Dri-devel mailing list Dri-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/dri-devel
Re: results of Radeon 9800 Pro test
Jacek Poplawski wrote: > I tried doom3, while it doesn't work correctly with default renderer, > it is quite playable with arb renderer. And it has much more than 5fps. > Sorry, but not here it doesn't. I updated my drivers from CVS on August 29th and have just run demo1. 800x600 resolution, lowest quality video settings, arb renderer, on a dual 2.8 gig xeon with a gig of RAM. The demo averaged 5.6 FPS. Have you run demo1? What's your system configuration? Made any changes to your doom config file? Anything special in your .drirc? Adam - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnk&kid=120709&bid=263057&dat=121642 -- ___ Dri-devel mailing list Dri-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/dri-devel
Re: results of Radeon 9800 Pro test
I tried doom3, while it doesn't work correctly with default renderer, it is quite playable with arb renderer. And it has much more than 5fps.-- Free Software - find interesting programs and change themNetHack - meet interesting creatures, kill them and eat their bodies Usenet - meet interesting people from all over the world and flame themDecopter - unrealistic helicopter simulator, get it from http://decopter.sf.net - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnk&kid=120709&bid=263057&dat=121642-- ___ Dri-devel mailing list Dri-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/dri-devel
Re: results of Radeon 9800 Pro test
On Mon, 28 Aug 2006 21:21:59 +0200 "Jacek Poplawski" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 8/28/06, Ian Romanick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > glest - refuses to start (Exception: Your system supports OpenGL > > > version > > " > > > 1.2 (1.3 Mesa 6.5.1)" Glest needs at least version 1.3 to work) > > > > This implies that glest is getting an indirect rendering context. > > > Yes, sorry, I tried to run it from root :-( > > It starts when I run it from user. > Landscape renders correctly when I am in menu, but when I start game > I see just gray screen and few white rectangles (missing textures > again?). I think that this application is just not mature enough - > there is an error about 3D textures even if I disable it in menu: > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] glest]$ ./glest > Mesa: CPU vendor: AuthenticAMD > Mesa: CPU name: AMD Athlon(tm) XP 1800+ > Mesa: MMX cpu detected. > Mesa: 3DNow! cpu detected. > Mesa: SSE cpu detected. > Mesa: Not testing OS support for SSE, leaving enabled. > Try R300_SPAN_DISABLE_LOCKING env var if this hangs. > *WARN_ONCE* > File r300_vertexprog.c function t_dst_index line 184 > Unknown output 3 > *** > Couldn't process event: Error creating texture 3D > *WARN_ONCE* > File r300_render.c function r300Fallback line 388 > Software fallback:ctx->RenderMode != GL_RENDER > *** This doesn't even work with full raster fallbacks in r300. "With my Ati Radeon 7000 (Freedesktop-DRI-Drivers) I just saw a grey area ingame, until I deactivated shadows and 3D-textures in the options." -- http://www.glest.org/board2/viewtopic.php?t=1162&sid=9d6b42d8f9429e5e6b259b63e13f9816 -- Aapo Tahkola - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnk&kid=120709&bid=263057&dat=121642 -- ___ Dri-devel mailing list Dri-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/dri-devel
Re: results of Radeon 9800 Pro test
On Mon, 2006-08-28 at 21:01 +0200, Jacek Poplawski wrote: > > Quake2 - OK (but dlopen bug requires LD_PRELOAD) I should have fixed this two weeks ago, isn't that working for you? Maybe you're hitting 'new driver needs new libGL' due to Ian's dispatch changes? -- Earthling Michel Dänzer | http://tungstengraphics.com Libre software enthusiast | Debian, X and DRI developer - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnk&kid=120709&bid=263057&dat=121642 -- ___ Dri-devel mailing list Dri-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/dri-devel
Re: results of Radeon 9800 Pro test
Jacek Poplawski wrote: > > > While the r300 driver has, indeed, come a long way, I'm hesitant > to call > it the best OpenGL implementation I've ever seen. As of July, the > r200 > driver still out performed the r300 driver at nearly every OpenGL > application and game on my system. > > > But the problem is that r200 is not stable (at least on my system) > which makes it unusable. It's very annoying when you want to play > Enemy Territory for few hours or create something in complex Blender, > and then see a crashed system. > > I've noticed that performance drops when software changes OpenGL > states too often. I am not sure how it works on other > drivers/implementations. > > > The only real stability problems I've had with the r200 driver recently is when I have multiple GL contexts running, and one of them goes beyond the 2048x2048 hardware limit (in terms of location, not size). So, for example, when running a mergedfb setup at 2560x2048 and having GL screensavers running on both heads. I have no problems playing doom3 or quake4 for hours on end with the r200 driver and it is significantly faster than with the r300 driver. Having said that, there's such progress being made on the r300 driver that I rarely switch back to my9000Pro unless I really need to for some reason. Adam - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnk&kid=120709&bid=263057&dat=121642 -- ___ Dri-devel mailing list Dri-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/dri-devel
Re: results of Radeon 9800 Pro test
While the r300 driver has, indeed, come a long way, I'm hesitant to callit the best OpenGL implementation I've ever seen. As of July, the r200 driver still out performed the r300 driver at nearly every OpenGLapplication and game on my system. But the problem is that r200 is not stable (at least on my system) which makes it unusable. It's very annoying when you want to play Enemy Territory for few hours or create something in complex Blender, and then see a crashed system. I've noticed that performance drops when software changes OpenGL states too often. I am not sure how it works on other drivers/implementations. - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnk&kid=120709&bid=263057&dat=121642-- ___ Dri-devel mailing list Dri-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/dri-devel
Re: results of Radeon 9800 Pro test
Jacek Poplawski wrote: > Hi, > > I removed fglrx from my system yesterday. > I was using it to initialize my Radeon 9800 Pro before (old DRI driver > crashed without that). > Then I installed new drivers, and I tested following applications: > > > I think that it is safe to say that Radeon 9800 Pro works stable and > r300 driver is the best OpenGL implementation I ever seen in Linux > (much more stable than radeon, r200 or voodoo3, much more correct than > mga or i810 and of course much more free than propertiary drivers). > I hope that PCI-E cards are working great, too. I will check it within > next few weeks. > While the r300 driver has, indeed, come a long way, I'm hesitant to call it the best OpenGL implementation I've ever seen. As of July, the r200 driver still out performed the r300 driver at nearly every OpenGL application and game on my system. I do agree with your assessment that the r300 driver is much more stable than most of the other open source drivers, however. Adam - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnk&kid=120709&bid=263057&dat=121642 -- ___ Dri-devel mailing list Dri-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/dri-devel
Re: results of Radeon 9800 Pro test
On 8/28/06, Ian Romanick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > glest - refuses to start (Exception: Your system supports OpenGL version "> 1.2 (1.3 Mesa 6.5.1)" Glest needs at least version 1.3 to work)This implies that glest is getting an indirect rendering context. Yes, sorry, I tried to run it from root :-(It starts when I run it from user.Landscape renders correctly when I am in menu, but when I start game I see just gray screen and few white rectangles (missing textures again?). I think that this application is just not mature enough - there is an error about 3D textures even if I disable it in menu:[EMAIL PROTECTED] glest]$ ./glestMesa: CPU vendor: AuthenticAMDMesa: CPU name: AMD Athlon(tm) XP 1800+ Mesa: MMX cpu detected.Mesa: 3DNow! cpu detected.Mesa: SSE cpu detected.Mesa: Not testing OS support for SSE, leaving enabled.Try R300_SPAN_DISABLE_LOCKING env var if this hangs.*WARN_ONCE* File r300_vertexprog.c function t_dst_index line 184Unknown output 3***Couldn't process event: Error creating texture 3D*WARN_ONCE* File r300_render.c function r300Fallback line 388Software fallback:ctx->RenderMode != GL_RENDER*** - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnk&kid=120709&bid=263057&dat=121642-- ___ Dri-devel mailing list Dri-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/dri-devel
Re: results of Radeon 9800 Pro test
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Jacek Poplawski wrote: > glest - refuses to start (Exception: Your system supports OpenGL version " > 1.2 (1.3 Mesa 6.5.1)" Glest needs at least version 1.3 to work) This implies that glest is getting an indirect rendering context. Could you debug that a bit more? It seems like it should get a direct rendering context. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2.2 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFE8z9gX1gOwKyEAw8RAlCQAJ9TQlPCfRZL0s50g6PFwr1zpL3V1QCfUdWG xcTCfz4QK1CnVJY067aWRe8= =qCkC -END PGP SIGNATURE- - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnk&kid=120709&bid=263057&dat=121642 -- ___ Dri-devel mailing list Dri-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/dri-devel
results of Radeon 9800 Pro test
Hi,I removed fglrx from my system yesterday.I was using it to initialize my Radeon 9800 Pro before (old DRI driver crashed without that).Then I installed new drivers, and I tested following applications: Blender - at least one problem - selection rendering (BKEY), this happens with many drivers (like mga), but it was working correctly last time on r300, step backward?Celestia - OKcube - fallbacks to software rendering Emilia Pinball - OKEnemy Teritorry - OK foobillard - OK (but fallbacks to software if I turn on reflections)galaxymage - OKglest - refuses to start (Exception: Your system supports OpenGL version "1.2 (1.3 Mesa 6.5.1)" Glest needs at least version 1.3 to work)globulation2 - OK (it crashed system on old drivers)lincity-ng - OKmplayer - OK (with xv, gl, gl2) Neverball - OK ppracer - OKQuake2 - OK (but dlopen bug requires LD_PRELOAD)sauerbraten - fallbacks to software renderingScorched3D - OK (max details)S.C.O.U.R.G.E. - OKsturmbahnfahrer - OKvamos - works, but many textures are missing (maybe that's an application problem) warzone - OK xmoto - OKI was unable to crash the system at all, however, I haven't tried to run more than two OpenGL contexts yet(because I need to change Xorg.conf for that).I think that it is safe to say that Radeon 9800 Pro works stable and r300 driver is the best OpenGL implementation I ever seen in Linux (much more stable than radeon, r200 or voodoo3, much more correct than mga or i810 and of course much more free than propertiary drivers).I hope that PCI-E cards are working great, too. I will check it within next few weeks. Test System: ATI Radeon 9800PRO NH (AGP) AMD Athlon(tm) XP 1800+768MB RAM Arch Linux xorg-server 1.1.1, xf86-video-ati 6.6.2, libdrm 2.0.2, mesa 6.5.1rc1, kernel26 2.6.17.8PS. Is there any open source application which uses true 3D bump-mapping? Is it working on r300? - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnk&kid=120709&bid=263057&dat=121642-- ___ Dri-devel mailing list Dri-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/dri-devel
