Re: [Dspace-devel] Picasa Web Uploader

2011-04-26 Thread Joseph
Peter,
The ability to import from a remote source such as picasa or through adobe
bridge could be pretty useful.  Kind of like the way an ORE harvester works.
I think you may be talking about the Web Albums Data API.  Using that there
would be a bit of duplication, unless you were harvesting something already
published (as above).

The picasa Button api (and Picasa Web Uploader API) I was pointing out
interacts with the desktop program, it's separate from the webalbumsAPI.
Here's an entry from their FAQ to clarify
   What is the difference between the Picasa Button API and the Picasa Web
Albums GData API?

The Picasa Button API http://code.google.com/apis/picasa (along with the
Picasa Web Uploader API) is used to make custom buttons that can be embeded
in the Picasa client UI and can be used to export images from the client to
another desktop application or web site.

The Picasa Web Albums Data API http://code.google.com/apis/picasaweb is
used to send and receive images and meta-data with the Picasa Web Albums web
site http://picasaweb.google.com/.

You can use these APIs to integrate your application or web site with either
the Picasa client, the Picasa Web Albums web site, or both!

I was envisioning someone working on their desktop with a collection of
images, and then wanting to post them as a collection to DSpace.  Basically
this would either pass the files to an external handling application (on the
same machine) or by creating a temporary host (as with the Picasa Web
Uploader API), that a script on the DSpace Archive would then be able to
ingest.

I mention Picasa because it's free and the apis are available.  Another
similar idea would be an Adobe Lightbox plugin.
-Joseph

On Mon, Apr 25, 2011 at 15:06, Peter Dietz pdiet...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi,

 First off, I do agree that picasa is an awesome tool. I use it all the time
 for personal use. And syncing photos to your web gallery is super easy.

 Second, the picasaweb API is super easy to use, to re-purpose your photos,
 i.e.
 https://github.com/Cloudhaus/RailHaus/blob/master/app/views/events/show.html.erb

 However, I'm stumbling into a blank for what to do next with picasaweb, and
 then to DSpace. Maybe you could build an app for sword, that will let you
 specify a picasaweb gallery to mirror/migrate into your DSpace, and then
 have sword do the submission. Or, like a collection in DSpace, you can
 specify the content source as being a picasaweb gallery to fetch the
 content, and import into DSpace. However, once the import is successful, it
 shouldn't really try to poll for updates to the gallery. Another possibility
 would be to add a step to configurable-submission, where you can specify
 remote source and have it fetch a bunch of images during a submission. This
 might import the gallery as as multiple bitstreams in one item. I attended a
 conference at OCLC today, where the Dryad project was demonstrated, and they
 could specify a content source, and enter a unique ID for the article (doi),
 and then it will go fetch the paper. I think @mire was contracted to build
 that. Additionally, I'm sure someone, somewhere is foaming at the mouth
 thinking curation task.

 Another, most likely more complicated approach would be to look at Adobe's
 latest offering.
 http://www.adobe.com/products/adobedrive/

 If one were to make DSpace CMIS compatible, you can have user upload
 directly to DSpace from Adobe Bridge. That sounds like it might meet people
 where they're working in the digitization workflow.


 Sorry, that sounds like a big long brain dump.

 Peter Dietz




 On Mon, Apr 25, 2011 at 12:03 PM, Vibhaj Rajan 
 vibhaj.rajan.cs...@itbhu.ac.in wrote:

 Hi Joseph,

 I also took the word deprecated to mean something developers usually take
 but from your notice, I agree that use of the API would be fine.

 Thanks for the wonderful idea about uploading from Picasa. Though I am not
 among the DSpace developers but only another student interested to
 contribute to DSpace, I thank you for your will to help DSpace improve.

 Hope the topic receives the attention of the developers at DSpace.

 Regards,


 On Mon, Apr 25, 2011 at 9:04 PM, Joseph joseph.rho...@gmail.com wrote:

 Good Point Vibhaj.  I noticed that it was deprecated, but the following
 disclaimer was on the project home page (
 http://code.google.com/apis/picasa/)

 Note: The Picasa APIs will continue to function in existing and future
 versions of the Picasa client for the foreseeable future. However, these
 APIs are being marked as deprecated to reflect that they're no longer
 undergoing active development and experimentation, which is the hallmark of
 APIs in the Code Labs program.

 I read it as meaning that they're not adding anything to it, but that
 it's not necessarily going anywhere.
 Not what I usually think of when someone mentions deprecated, but it
 seams reassuring in this case.
 I could be wrong.

 I think it would be a nice addition to be able to submit from Picasa.
  Its 

Re: [Dspace-devel] Picasa Web Uploader

2011-04-26 Thread Peter Dietz
Sorry for my ignorance, I had no idea about the picasaButtonAPI. I
definitely was only thinking webalbumsAPI.
Very cool!

Ok, so now the path (according to my interpretation) would be:
picasaButton Import to DSpace - Picasa Web Uploader Wizard/Dialog -
Sword Ingest into repo/collection.

This sounds like it could be a fun project.

I noticed that Google provided some sample code in PHP too.



Peter Dietz



On Tue, Apr 26, 2011 at 12:20 PM, Joseph joseph.rho...@gmail.com wrote:

 Peter,
 The ability to import from a remote source such as picasa or through adobe
 bridge could be pretty useful.  Kind of like the way an ORE harvester works.
 I think you may be talking about the Web Albums Data API.  Using that there
 would be a bit of duplication, unless you were harvesting something already
 published (as above).

 The picasa Button api (and Picasa Web Uploader API) I was pointing out
 interacts with the desktop program, it's separate from the webalbumsAPI.
 Here's an entry from their FAQ to clarify
What is the difference between the Picasa Button API and the Picasa Web
 Albums GData API?

 The Picasa Button API http://code.google.com/apis/picasa (along with the
 Picasa Web Uploader API) is used to make custom buttons that can be embeded
 in the Picasa client UI and can be used to export images from the client to
 another desktop application or web site.

 The Picasa Web Albums Data API http://code.google.com/apis/picasaweb is
 used to send and receive images and meta-data with the Picasa Web Albums web
 site http://picasaweb.google.com/.

 You can use these APIs to integrate your application or web site with
 either the Picasa client, the Picasa Web Albums web site, or both!

 I was envisioning someone working on their desktop with a collection of
 images, and then wanting to post them as a collection to DSpace.  Basically
 this would either pass the files to an external handling application (on the
 same machine) or by creating a temporary host (as with the Picasa Web
 Uploader API), that a script on the DSpace Archive would then be able to
 ingest.

 I mention Picasa because it's free and the apis are available.  Another
 similar idea would be an Adobe Lightbox plugin.
 -Joseph

 On Mon, Apr 25, 2011 at 15:06, Peter Dietz pdiet...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi,

 First off, I do agree that picasa is an awesome tool. I use it all the
 time for personal use. And syncing photos to your web gallery is super easy.

 Second, the picasaweb API is super easy to use, to re-purpose your photos,
 i.e.
 https://github.com/Cloudhaus/RailHaus/blob/master/app/views/events/show.html.erb

 However, I'm stumbling into a blank for what to do next with picasaweb,
 and then to DSpace. Maybe you could build an app for sword, that will let
 you specify a picasaweb gallery to mirror/migrate into your DSpace, and then
 have sword do the submission. Or, like a collection in DSpace, you can
 specify the content source as being a picasaweb gallery to fetch the
 content, and import into DSpace. However, once the import is successful, it
 shouldn't really try to poll for updates to the gallery. Another possibility
 would be to add a step to configurable-submission, where you can specify
 remote source and have it fetch a bunch of images during a submission. This
 might import the gallery as as multiple bitstreams in one item. I attended a
 conference at OCLC today, where the Dryad project was demonstrated, and they
 could specify a content source, and enter a unique ID for the article (doi),
 and then it will go fetch the paper. I think @mire was contracted to build
 that. Additionally, I'm sure someone, somewhere is foaming at the mouth
 thinking curation task.

 Another, most likely more complicated approach would be to look at Adobe's
 latest offering.
 http://www.adobe.com/products/adobedrive/

 If one were to make DSpace CMIS compatible, you can have user upload
 directly to DSpace from Adobe Bridge. That sounds like it might meet people
 where they're working in the digitization workflow.


 Sorry, that sounds like a big long brain dump.

 Peter Dietz




 On Mon, Apr 25, 2011 at 12:03 PM, Vibhaj Rajan 
 vibhaj.rajan.cs...@itbhu.ac.in wrote:

 Hi Joseph,

 I also took the word deprecated to mean something developers usually take
 but from your notice, I agree that use of the API would be fine.

 Thanks for the wonderful idea about uploading from Picasa. Though I am
 not among the DSpace developers but only another student interested to
 contribute to DSpace, I thank you for your will to help DSpace improve.

 Hope the topic receives the attention of the developers at DSpace.

 Regards,


 On Mon, Apr 25, 2011 at 9:04 PM, Joseph joseph.rho...@gmail.com wrote:

 Good Point Vibhaj.  I noticed that it was deprecated, but the following
 disclaimer was on the project home page (
 http://code.google.com/apis/picasa/)

 Note: The Picasa APIs will continue to function in existing and future
 versions of the Picasa client for the 

Re: [Dspace-devel] Picasa Web Uploader

2011-04-25 Thread Joseph
Good Point Vibhaj.  I noticed that it was deprecated, but the following
disclaimer was on the project home page (http://code.google.com/apis/picasa/
)

Note: The Picasa APIs will continue to function in existing and future
versions of the Picasa client for the foreseeable future. However, these
APIs are being marked as deprecated to reflect that they're no longer
undergoing active development and experimentation, which is the hallmark of
APIs in the Code Labs program.

I read it as meaning that they're not adding anything to it, but that it's
not necessarily going anywhere.
Not what I usually think of when someone mentions deprecated, but it seams
reassuring in this case.
I could be wrong.

I think it would be a nice addition to be able to submit from Picasa.  Its
got a rather slick interface for displaying and organizing images, and it's
intuitive to select a bunch of images, or folder, and click an Archive in
DSpace button.  The user could then provide the appropriate metadata common
to the files.

I'm willing to throw around more ideas with those involved in this GSOC
project, or continue the discussion on this list.

-Joseph


On Mon, Apr 25, 2011 at 11:14, Vibhaj Rajan
vibhaj.rajan.cs...@itbhu.ac.inwrote:

 Hello Joseph,

 I found the Picasa API to be deprecated but the idea seems to be very much
 interesting.
 Making usage of DSpace easier to non-technical users was the aim of the
 Improve Submitter User Experience idea at GSoC this year.
 I think DSpace developers mentoring that project will have much to say
 regarding this.

 Regards,

 On Mon, Apr 25, 2011 at 8:28 PM, Joseph joseph.rho...@gmail.com wrote:

 DSpace Developers,

 I came across this API today and I was wondering if anyone has tried to
 make a bridge between DSpace and Picasa.
 http://code.google.com/apis/picasa/docs/web_uploader.html

 I'm thinking that it may be possible to interact with the sword interface
 somehow.

 I'm at a Lab that has tens of thousands of images and I'm looking for ways
 to make it easier for non-tech people to add many images to a collection.

 Any thoughts or experiences?

 Thank You,
 Joseph


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Re: [Dspace-devel] Picasa Web Uploader

2011-04-25 Thread Vibhaj Rajan
Hi Joseph,

I also took the word deprecated to mean something developers usually take
but from your notice, I agree that use of the API would be fine.

Thanks for the wonderful idea about uploading from Picasa. Though I am not
among the DSpace developers but only another student interested to
contribute to DSpace, I thank you for your will to help DSpace improve.

Hope the topic receives the attention of the developers at DSpace.

Regards,

On Mon, Apr 25, 2011 at 9:04 PM, Joseph joseph.rho...@gmail.com wrote:

 Good Point Vibhaj.  I noticed that it was deprecated, but the following
 disclaimer was on the project home page (
 http://code.google.com/apis/picasa/)

 Note: The Picasa APIs will continue to function in existing and future
 versions of the Picasa client for the foreseeable future. However, these
 APIs are being marked as deprecated to reflect that they're no longer
 undergoing active development and experimentation, which is the hallmark of
 APIs in the Code Labs program.

 I read it as meaning that they're not adding anything to it, but that it's
 not necessarily going anywhere.
 Not what I usually think of when someone mentions deprecated, but it seams
 reassuring in this case.
 I could be wrong.

 I think it would be a nice addition to be able to submit from Picasa.  Its
 got a rather slick interface for displaying and organizing images, and it's
 intuitive to select a bunch of images, or folder, and click an Archive in
 DSpace button.  The user could then provide the appropriate metadata common
 to the files.

 I'm willing to throw around more ideas with those involved in this GSOC
 project, or continue the discussion on this list.

 -Joseph


 On Mon, Apr 25, 2011 at 11:14, Vibhaj Rajan 
 vibhaj.rajan.cs...@itbhu.ac.in wrote:

 Hello Joseph,

 I found the Picasa API to be deprecated but the idea seems to be very much
 interesting.
 Making usage of DSpace easier to non-technical users was the aim of the
 Improve Submitter User Experience idea at GSoC this year.
 I think DSpace developers mentoring that project will have much to say
 regarding this.

 Regards,

 On Mon, Apr 25, 2011 at 8:28 PM, Joseph joseph.rho...@gmail.com wrote:

 DSpace Developers,

 I came across this API today and I was wondering if anyone has tried to
 make a bridge between DSpace and Picasa.
 http://code.google.com/apis/picasa/docs/web_uploader.html

 I'm thinking that it may be possible to interact with the sword interface
 somehow.

 I'm at a Lab that has tens of thousands of images and I'm looking for
 ways to make it easier for non-tech people to add many images to a
 collection.

 Any thoughts or experiences?

 Thank You,
 Joseph


 --
 Fulfilling the Lean Software Promise
 Lean software platforms are now widely adopted and the benefits have been
 demonstrated beyond question. Learn why your peers are replacing JEE
 containers with lightweight application servers - and what you can gain
 from the move. http://p.sf.net/sfu/vmware-sfemails
 ___
 Dspace-devel mailing list
 Dspace-devel@lists.sourceforge.net
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 Department of Computer Engineering**
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 +91 92 3531 2784*





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Department of Computer Engineering**
IT BHU Varanasi
+91 92 3531 2784*
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Lean software platforms are now widely adopted and the benefits have been 
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Re: [Dspace-devel] Picasa Web Uploader

2011-04-25 Thread Peter Dietz
Hi,

First off, I do agree that picasa is an awesome tool. I use it all the time
for personal use. And syncing photos to your web gallery is super easy.

Second, the picasaweb API is super easy to use, to re-purpose your photos,
i.e.
https://github.com/Cloudhaus/RailHaus/blob/master/app/views/events/show.html.erb

However, I'm stumbling into a blank for what to do next with picasaweb, and
then to DSpace. Maybe you could build an app for sword, that will let you
specify a picasaweb gallery to mirror/migrate into your DSpace, and then
have sword do the submission. Or, like a collection in DSpace, you can
specify the content source as being a picasaweb gallery to fetch the
content, and import into DSpace. However, once the import is successful, it
shouldn't really try to poll for updates to the gallery. Another possibility
would be to add a step to configurable-submission, where you can specify
remote source and have it fetch a bunch of images during a submission. This
might import the gallery as as multiple bitstreams in one item. I attended a
conference at OCLC today, where the Dryad project was demonstrated, and they
could specify a content source, and enter a unique ID for the article (doi),
and then it will go fetch the paper. I think @mire was contracted to build
that. Additionally, I'm sure someone, somewhere is foaming at the mouth
thinking curation task.

Another, most likely more complicated approach would be to look at Adobe's
latest offering.
http://www.adobe.com/products/adobedrive/

If one were to make DSpace CMIS compatible, you can have user upload
directly to DSpace from Adobe Bridge. That sounds like it might meet people
where they're working in the digitization workflow.


Sorry, that sounds like a big long brain dump.

Peter Dietz



On Mon, Apr 25, 2011 at 12:03 PM, Vibhaj Rajan 
vibhaj.rajan.cs...@itbhu.ac.in wrote:

 Hi Joseph,

 I also took the word deprecated to mean something developers usually take
 but from your notice, I agree that use of the API would be fine.

 Thanks for the wonderful idea about uploading from Picasa. Though I am not
 among the DSpace developers but only another student interested to
 contribute to DSpace, I thank you for your will to help DSpace improve.

 Hope the topic receives the attention of the developers at DSpace.

 Regards,


 On Mon, Apr 25, 2011 at 9:04 PM, Joseph joseph.rho...@gmail.com wrote:

 Good Point Vibhaj.  I noticed that it was deprecated, but the following
 disclaimer was on the project home page (
 http://code.google.com/apis/picasa/)

 Note: The Picasa APIs will continue to function in existing and future
 versions of the Picasa client for the foreseeable future. However, these
 APIs are being marked as deprecated to reflect that they're no longer
 undergoing active development and experimentation, which is the hallmark of
 APIs in the Code Labs program.

 I read it as meaning that they're not adding anything to it, but that it's
 not necessarily going anywhere.
 Not what I usually think of when someone mentions deprecated, but it seams
 reassuring in this case.
 I could be wrong.

 I think it would be a nice addition to be able to submit from Picasa.  Its
 got a rather slick interface for displaying and organizing images, and it's
 intuitive to select a bunch of images, or folder, and click an Archive in
 DSpace button.  The user could then provide the appropriate metadata common
 to the files.

 I'm willing to throw around more ideas with those involved in this GSOC
 project, or continue the discussion on this list.

 -Joseph


 On Mon, Apr 25, 2011 at 11:14, Vibhaj Rajan 
 vibhaj.rajan.cs...@itbhu.ac.in wrote:

 Hello Joseph,

 I found the Picasa API to be deprecated but the idea seems to be very
 much interesting.
 Making usage of DSpace easier to non-technical users was the aim of the
 Improve Submitter User Experience idea at GSoC this year.
 I think DSpace developers mentoring that project will have much to say
 regarding this.

 Regards,

 On Mon, Apr 25, 2011 at 8:28 PM, Joseph joseph.rho...@gmail.com wrote:

 DSpace Developers,

 I came across this API today and I was wondering if anyone has tried to
 make a bridge between DSpace and Picasa.
 http://code.google.com/apis/picasa/docs/web_uploader.html

 I'm thinking that it may be possible to interact with the sword
 interface somehow.

 I'm at a Lab that has tens of thousands of images and I'm looking for
 ways to make it easier for non-tech people to add many images to a
 collection.

 Any thoughts or experiences?

 Thank You,
 Joseph


 --
 Fulfilling the Lean Software Promise
 Lean software platforms are now widely adopted and the benefits have
 been
 demonstrated beyond question. Learn why your peers are replacing JEE
 containers with lightweight application servers - and what you can gain
 from the move. http://p.sf.net/sfu/vmware-sfemails
 ___