[Dspace-tech] Adding items without bitstreams
Hi MacKenzie, I like your idea about flagging records with or without attached files. We have given up on faculty uploading their own items, everyone has admitted that this process simply won't happen. So it has fallen on the Library to populate our local repository and the most efficient workflow has been importing files into DSpace and then Library support staff adding the fulltext files to the records after they have been digitized. This is less time consuming and really, who wants to do data entry. This process has been very efficient for us, but I have to admit, the harvesters and search engines have not consistently found the fulltext files after they have been added. I think your idea of flagging records would facilitate the find-ability of the newly added files. It would also help if importing records into DSpace was less work, I'm hoping the Summer Google student working on importing/exporting files from Bibliographic software will facilitate this process. Anyone agree or disagree with me? Shawna -- Shawna Sadler Coordinator, Digital Initiatives Libraries and Cultural Resources University of Calgary Phone: (403) 220-3739 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - This SF.net email is sponsored by DB2 Express Download DB2 Express C - the FREE version of DB2 express and take control of your XML. No limits. Just data. Click to get it now. http://sourceforge.net/powerbar/db2/ ___ DSpace-tech mailing list DSpace-tech@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/dspace-tech
Re: [Dspace-tech] Adding items without bitstreams
Hi MacKenzie, Thanks for raising these important points about the potential dangers of creating content-free items. In our case, we'd like to explore the possibility of importing citations from commercial databases (PsycInfo, ERIC, Agricola, etc.) via the Item Importer. From that point, we would attempt to obtain the content (in most cases, the PDF of the published article) and add it to the existing item. Based on some initial success reported by Eric Morgan at University of Notre Dame (http://www.library.nd.edu/idr/features.shtml), we hope to explore this approach as a way to capture faculty publications without requiring faculty to self-submit. So, the content-free state would be a temporary one, and I suppose we could even do this in a test instance and move to production only those items that have content. Marty Martin Courtois Information Technology Assistance Center 509 Hale Library Kansas State University Manhattan KS 66506 Phone: 785 532-4428 Fax: 785 532-3199 E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Quoting MacKenzie Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED]: To those who would like to add content-free items to their repository -- a couple of warnings: -- if your repository is supposed to support digital preservation activities then beware of content that you don't actually have at hand... if the concern is not making the content public it might be preferable to just limit access to it, rather than exclude it from the repository altogether (assuming you have the right to keep a copy). -- Google and other harvesters, including OAI harvesters like OAIster, are getting grumpy about repositories that include content-free items... they need a quick, reliable way to tell if the item they just grabbed has a retrievable content file attached to it. Since the bitstream URIs are not in the DC metadata it's hard for them to figure this out, but since most DSpace repositories don't allow items without associated bitstreams it hasn't been a problem. But if this trend to support content-free items continues then we'll have to figure out how to flag these records to help the harvesters. MacKenzie Mark Diggory wrote: We've got a couple patches to the LNI stuff from John Fawcett of CARET which allow one to create collections/communities via LNI and Update/Delete Items. I don't see why the PAckager framework couldn't also be tailored to allow creating items without files. I don't see why the Submission UI in Manakin or JSPUI couldn't be made more flexible in this regard, I'd also add that with Configurable Submission, this should be a bit of a no-brainer. -Mark On Apr 20, 2007, at 12:00 PM, Martin Courtois wrote: Hi Robert, We're testing the possibility of using the DSpace simple archive format and item importer to create a DSpace record without a corresponding item. Here's what we're doing: 1. Create the records in the dublin_core.xml format as described in the Item Importer and Exporter/DSpace simple archive format section of the DSpace documentation. 2. Assemble all the dublin_core.xml files into the DSpace simple archive format (described in the same section of the documentation), but leave out the contents and file portions. So, it might look like this: archive_directory/ item_000/ dublin_core.xml item_001/ dublin_core.xml item_002/ dublin_core.xml etc. 3. Run the item importer. We've completed only step 1, so I'm not sure this works. I'll send a more complete description once we're further along. Marty Martin Courtois Information Technology Assistance Center 509 Hale Library Kansas State University Manhattan KS 66506 Phone: 785 532-4428 Fax: 785 532-3199 E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Quoting BEAZLEY, Robert [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hello all, Is it possible to add items to DSpace without uploading a file? We have a need to add citations to our repository where we may not have the right to distribute the actual article itself. At the moment we're just using a placeholder text file but we'd like to be able to do away with this if it's at all possible. Thanks in advance, Robert Beazley Application Developer Australian Nuclear Science and Technology Organisation PMB 1, Menai NSW Australia 2234 T +61 2 9717 7791 E [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- MacKenzie Smith MIT Libraries - This SF.net email is sponsored by DB2 Express Download DB2 Express C - the FREE version of DB2 express and take control of your XML. No limits. Just data. Click to get it now. http://sourceforge.net/powerbar/db2/ ___ DSpace-tech mailing list DSpace-tech@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/dspace-tech
Re: [Dspace-tech] Adding items without bitstreams
Hi Robert, We're testing the possibility of using the DSpace simple archive format and item importer to create a DSpace record without a corresponding item. Here's what we're doing: 1. Create the records in the dublin_core.xml format as described in the Item Importer and Exporter/DSpace simple archive format section of the DSpace documentation. 2. Assemble all the dublin_core.xml files into the DSpace simple archive format (described in the same section of the documentation), but leave out the contents and file portions. So, it might look like this: archive_directory/ item_000/ dublin_core.xml item_001/ dublin_core.xml item_002/ dublin_core.xml etc. 3. Run the item importer. We've completed only step 1, so I'm not sure this works. I'll send a more complete description once we're further along. Marty Martin Courtois Information Technology Assistance Center 509 Hale Library Kansas State University Manhattan KS 66506 Phone: 785 532-4428 Fax: 785 532-3199 E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Quoting BEAZLEY, Robert [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hello all, Is it possible to add items to DSpace without uploading a file? We have a need to add citations to our repository where we may not have the right to distribute the actual article itself. At the moment we're just using a placeholder text file but we'd like to be able to do away with this if it's at all possible. Thanks in advance, Robert Beazley Application Developer Australian Nuclear Science and Technology Organisation PMB 1, Menai NSW Australia 2234 T +61 2 9717 7791 E [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] - This SF.net email is sponsored by DB2 Express Download DB2 Express C - the FREE version of DB2 express and take control of your XML. No limits. Just data. Click to get it now. http://sourceforge.net/powerbar/db2/ ___ DSpace-tech mailing list DSpace-tech@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/dspace-tech
Re: [Dspace-tech] Adding items without bitstreams
We've got a couple patches to the LNI stuff from John Fawcett of CARET which allow one to create collections/communities via LNI and Update/Delete Items. I don't see why the PAckager framework couldn't also be tailored to allow creating items without files. I don't see why the Submission UI in Manakin or JSPUI couldn't be made more flexible in this regard, I'd also add that with Configurable Submission, this should be a bit of a no-brainer. -Mark On Apr 20, 2007, at 12:00 PM, Martin Courtois wrote: Hi Robert, We're testing the possibility of using the DSpace simple archive format and item importer to create a DSpace record without a corresponding item. Here's what we're doing: 1. Create the records in the dublin_core.xml format as described in the Item Importer and Exporter/DSpace simple archive format section of the DSpace documentation. 2. Assemble all the dublin_core.xml files into the DSpace simple archive format (described in the same section of the documentation), but leave out the contents and file portions. So, it might look like this: archive_directory/ item_000/ dublin_core.xml item_001/ dublin_core.xml item_002/ dublin_core.xml etc. 3. Run the item importer. We've completed only step 1, so I'm not sure this works. I'll send a more complete description once we're further along. Marty Martin Courtois Information Technology Assistance Center 509 Hale Library Kansas State University Manhattan KS 66506 Phone: 785 532-4428 Fax: 785 532-3199 E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Quoting BEAZLEY, Robert [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hello all, Is it possible to add items to DSpace without uploading a file? We have a need to add citations to our repository where we may not have the right to distribute the actual article itself. At the moment we're just using a placeholder text file but we'd like to be able to do away with this if it's at all possible. Thanks in advance, Robert Beazley Application Developer Australian Nuclear Science and Technology Organisation PMB 1, Menai NSW Australia 2234 T +61 2 9717 7791 E [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- --- This SF.net email is sponsored by DB2 Express Download DB2 Express C - the FREE version of DB2 express and take control of your XML. No limits. Just data. Click to get it now. http://sourceforge.net/powerbar/db2/ ___ DSpace-tech mailing list DSpace-tech@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/dspace-tech ~ Mark R. Diggory - DSpace Systems Manager MIT Libraries, Systems and Technology Services Massachusetts Institute of Technology Office: E25-131 Phone: (617) 253-1096 - This SF.net email is sponsored by DB2 Express Download DB2 Express C - the FREE version of DB2 express and take control of your XML. No limits. Just data. Click to get it now. http://sourceforge.net/powerbar/db2/ ___ DSpace-tech mailing list DSpace-tech@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/dspace-tech
Re: [Dspace-tech] Adding items without bitstreams
I had the same problem. My work around is to upload an html file that simply does a redirect to the full-text source. Zhiwu Xie -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Stuart Lewis [sdl] Sent: Tuesday, April 17, 2007 11:53 PM To: BEAZLEY, Robert; dspace-tech@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [Dspace-tech] Adding items without bitstreams Hi Robert, Is it possible to add items to DSpace without uploading a file? We have a need to add citations to our repository where we may not have the right to distribute the actual article itself. At the moment we're just using a placeholder text file but we'd like to be able to do away with this if it's at all possible. At present it is not possible - but will be in the next major release of DSpace (1.5) which will include what is known as the 'configurable submission system' (CSS). In the mean time, you could look at installing just that functionality: http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detailaid=1370187group_id=19 984atid=319984 Or you could install the whole of the configurable submission system: http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detailaid=1532695group_id=19 984atid=319984 I hope this helps, Stuart _ Datblygydd Cymwysiadau'r WeWeb Applications Developer Gwasanaethau Gwybodaeth Information Services Prifysgol Cymru Aberystwyth University of Wales Aberystwyth E-bost / E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Ffon / Tel: (01970) 622860 _ - This SF.net email is sponsored by DB2 Express Download DB2 Express C - the FREE version of DB2 express and take control of your XML. No limits. Just data. Click to get it now. http://sourceforge.net/powerbar/db2/ ___ DSpace-tech mailing list DSpace-tech@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/dspace-tech - This SF.net email is sponsored by DB2 Express Download DB2 Express C - the FREE version of DB2 express and take control of your XML. No limits. Just data. Click to get it now. http://sourceforge.net/powerbar/db2/ ___ DSpace-tech mailing list DSpace-tech@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/dspace-tech
Re: [Dspace-tech] Adding items without bitstreams
On Wed, 2007-04-18 at 06:52 +0100, Stuart Lewis [sdl] wrote: At present it is not possible - but will be in the next major release of DSpace (1.5) which will include what is known as the 'configurable submission system' (CSS). Hi Stuart, This is very good news for us, as we already have similar functionality hacked in to our 1.3.2 installation(s), and I was hoping that we could replace it with the configurable submission system in our 1.4.x upgrade. Although, can we please agree not abbreviate it to 'CSS', otherwise things are going to get very confusing around here! (Maybe it should be rebranded to the 'configurable submission process'). G This email has been scanned by Postini. For more information please visit http://www.postini.com - This SF.net email is sponsored by DB2 Express Download DB2 Express C - the FREE version of DB2 express and take control of your XML. No limits. Just data. Click to get it now. http://sourceforge.net/powerbar/db2/ ___ DSpace-tech mailing list DSpace-tech@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/dspace-tech
[Dspace-tech] Adding items without bitstreams
Hello all, Is it possible to add items to DSpace without uploading a file? We have a need to add citations to our repository where we may not have the right to distribute the actual article itself. At the moment we're just using a placeholder text file but we'd like to be able to do away with this if it's at all possible. Thanks in advance, Robert Beazley Application Developer Australian Nuclear Science and Technology Organisation PMB 1, Menai NSW Australia 2234 T +61 2 9717 7791 E [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] - This SF.net email is sponsored by DB2 Express Download DB2 Express C - the FREE version of DB2 express and take control of your XML. No limits. Just data. Click to get it now. http://sourceforge.net/powerbar/db2/___ DSpace-tech mailing list DSpace-tech@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/dspace-tech
