Re: [Dspace-tech] How to enrich metadata with special characters?

2008-11-17 Thread Robert Roggenbuck


Bram Luyten schrieb:
 I was recently looking for a good resource on what's included in the unicode
 tables and what isn't.
 This one was one of the best I could find: http://barzilai.org/math_sym.htm
That's a nice overview, but only a small subset of available unicode 
characters (see http://www.unicode.org/charts/symbols.html).

 
 But (repeating the previous posts), this doesn't cover all symbols necessary
 to express mathematical (or for example chemical) formulas.
 Especially when thinking about OAI, I'm really wondering if _any_ standards
 or agreements apply ?
 
 Does anyone know how they do this in big reference repositories ?
In our library system there is a coding rule for the handling of sub- 
and superscripts. Carbon dioxide (HTML COsub2/sub) would be coded 
CO_2 and the Uranium Isotope 238 (HTML sup238/supsub92/supU) as 
238_92_U. This is not useful for reading and understanding (because the 
coding results are ambiguous). But while coding the metadata this way it 
is possible to formulate (and transform) queries that can match the 
metadata.

 
 Maybe I was just unlucky after looking for a few references, but it doesn't
 seem that these submissions in Arxiv include special symbols:
 http://arxiv.org/abs/0811.1165
 http://arxiv.org/abs/0811.0548
They use TeX and hope that anyone can understand it.

Best Greetings

Robert

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Re: [Dspace-tech] How to enrich metadata with special characters?

2008-11-14 Thread Robert Roggenbuck
Unfortunately there were no responds to my question.

Whenever You include a markup-language in the field values, You will 
have problems during searching. When You search for example for carbon 
dioxide as 'CO2', and You encoded it as 'COsub2/sub', You will never 
find it! A possible way to solve the problem would be to split metadata 
values into two fields: one for harvesting / indexing and one for 
presenting - like dc.title and dc.title.display. Then it would 
(theoretically) be possible to include something like HTML or TeX in the 
presentation field and allow DSpace to render it, while doing the search 
on the normal field. But to do the rendering one must modify the 
DSpace code...

We still have no practical solution for this problem.

Best regards

Robert

Yuyun Wirawati ISHAK (LIBRIS) schrieb:
 Hi Robert
 I'm having the same question. Do you have any answer to this query yet? 
  
 Thanks in advance,
 Yuyun
 NIE Library
 Singapore
  
 Hi,
  
 I just wonder how to add special characters to metadata. Unicode-Escapes
 
 like #x1D6C0; work - but there are things in the world which are not 
 captured by the unicode tables. One example is a superscript infinity 
 sign, like in 
 http://elib.ub.uni-osnabrueck.de/publications/pics/Omega-S.gif
 http://elib.ub.uni-osnabrueck.de/publications/pics/Omega-S.gif  .
  
 Would it be possible to allow MathML or LaTeX to be rendered? Or at 
 least to allow a selected set of HTML-tags to handle these things, like 
 sub, sup and img?
  
 Best Regards
  
 Robert
  
 PS: While playing around to insert unicode-entities, I discovered a bug:
 
 whenever ampersands occur in a field, the last one is escaped as amp; 
 in the rendered item page, but displayed correct in the text field for 
 metadata editing. After actualising / saving the item a second time the 
 characters are displayed as expected.
  

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Re: [Dspace-tech] How to enrich metadata with special characters?

2008-11-14 Thread Bram Luyten
I was recently looking for a good resource on what's included in the unicode
tables and what isn't.
This one was one of the best I could find: http://barzilai.org/math_sym.htm

But (repeating the previous posts), this doesn't cover all symbols necessary
to express mathematical (or for example chemical) formulas.
Especially when thinking about OAI, I'm really wondering if _any_ standards
or agreements apply ?

Does anyone know how they do this in big reference repositories ?

Maybe I was just unlucky after looking for a few references, but it doesn't
seem that these submissions in Arxiv include special symbols:
http://arxiv.org/abs/0811.1165
http://arxiv.org/abs/0811.0548

In any case, interesting topic and hope there are some good solutions out
there.

regards,


Bram Luyten

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On Fri, Nov 14, 2008 at 9:36 AM, Robert Roggenbuck 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Unfortunately there were no responds to my question.

 Whenever You include a markup-language in the field values, You will
 have problems during searching. When You search for example for carbon
 dioxide as 'CO2', and You encoded it as 'COsub2/sub', You will never
 find it! A possible way to solve the problem would be to split metadata
 values into two fields: one for harvesting / indexing and one for
 presenting - like dc.title and dc.title.display. Then it would
 (theoretically) be possible to include something like HTML or TeX in the
 presentation field and allow DSpace to render it, while doing the search
 on the normal field. But to do the rendering one must modify the
 DSpace code...

 We still have no practical solution for this problem.

 Best regards

 Robert

 Yuyun Wirawati ISHAK (LIBRIS) schrieb:
  Hi Robert
  I'm having the same question. Do you have any answer to this query yet?
 
  Thanks in advance,
  Yuyun
  NIE Library
  Singapore
 
  Hi,
 
  I just wonder how to add special characters to metadata. Unicode-Escapes
 
  like #x1D6C0; work - but there are things in the world which are not
  captured by the unicode tables. One example is a superscript infinity
  sign, like in
  http://elib.ub.uni-osnabrueck.de/publications/pics/Omega-S.gif
  http://elib.ub.uni-osnabrueck.de/publications/pics/Omega-S.gif  .
 
  Would it be possible to allow MathML or LaTeX to be rendered? Or at
  least to allow a selected set of HTML-tags to handle these things, like
  sub, sup and img?
 
  Best Regards
 
  Robert
 
  PS: While playing around to insert unicode-entities, I discovered a bug:
 
  whenever ampersands occur in a field, the last one is escaped as amp;
  in the rendered item page, but displayed correct in the text field for
  metadata editing. After actualising / saving the item a second time the
  characters are displayed as expected.
 

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[Dspace-tech] How to enrich metadata with special characters?

2008-07-09 Thread Robert Roggenbuck
Hi,

I just wonder how to add special characters to metadata. Unicode-Escapes 
like #x1D6C0; work - but there are things in the world which are not 
captured by the unicode tables. One example is a superscript infinity 
sign, like in 
http://elib.ub.uni-osnabrueck.de/publications/pics/Omega-S.gif .

Would it be possible to allow MathML or LaTeX to be rendered? Or at 
least to allow a selected set of HTML-tags to handle these things, like 
sub, sup and img?

Best Regards

Robert

PS: While playing around to insert unicode-entities, I discovered a bug: 
whenever ampersands occur in a field, the last one is escaped as amp; 
in the rendered item page, but displayed correct in the text field for 
metadata editing. After actualising / saving the item a second time the 
characters are displayed as expected.

-- 

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Universitaetsbibliothek Osnabrueck
Germany
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