[DSTAR_DIGITAL] RC-24 Control head for ID-1 wanted

2008-11-13 Thread Randy
I am looking for an RC-24 control head for my ID-1.  If anyone has one they
do not want/need please contact me off list.

Thanks!

Randy, W7HR
WD7STR
Port Orchard, WA






Re: [DSTAR_DIGITAL] Calling OZ! (Demo)

2008-11-13 Thread John D. Hays
Hi Gord,

Missed your message, but we did have a nice trip up and back last night.
Worked VA7DG over on the VE7RAG B machine from  the cafe where we had
dinner.  Tried to raise the Adelaide repeater through callsign routing but
no luck. It was good to see VK7ARE after almost 30 years.  He is still every
much the gentleman I met back then.

On Thu, Nov 13, 2008 at 8:46 AM, Gordon Dick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

   Hi John:
 I monitor VA7ICM C and will gladly turn on a reflector for you. This is
 club night so I'm only home till about 6pm.
 Have a good safe trip north
 Gord
 VE7FKY



-- 
John D. Hays
K7VE


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[DSTAR_DIGITAL] D-Star simplex frequency

2008-11-13 Thread bruce mallon
Has any thought being givin to simplex ?
�
Here in Tampabay we have FM�nets on 147.550 and what I am seeing is some 
d-star users who don't seem to hear them tring to use that frequency at the 
same time.
�
If d-star has a simplex spot let me knowe and i'll pass it along.

[ED - In many areas, 145.67 is used for DSTAR simplex.]


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Re: [DSTAR_DIGITAL] D-Star simplex frequency

2008-11-13 Thread John D. Hays
Most of the D-STAR 70cm stuff also runs down to 430 Mhz., depending on local
use and protecting weak signal, ATV, and satellite operations, it should be
possible to find a range of 12.5 kHz. spaced frequencies in that part of the
band for simplex D-STAR.

On Thu, Nov 13, 2008 at 9:23 AM, bruce mallon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

   Has any thought being givin to simplex ?
 �
 Here in Tampabay we have FM�nets on 147.550 and what I am seeing is some
 d-star users who don't seem to hear them tring to use that frequency at the
 same time.
 �
 If d-star has a simplex spot let me knowe and i'll pass it along.

 [ED - In many areas, 145.67 is used for DSTAR simplex.]




 




-- 
John D. Hays - K7VE


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Re: [DSTAR_DIGITAL] RC-24 Control head for ID-1 wanted

2008-11-13 Thread Mark Thompson
A few months ago I had AES check with Icom whether RC-24 control heads could be 
ordered. 

The answer from Icom was that the stock microphone was available, but not the 
control head itself is not. 
 73, Mark, WB9QZB
Chicago, IL 





From: Randy [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: dstar_digital@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2008 10:29:40 AM
Subject: [DSTAR_DIGITAL] RC-24 Control head for ID-1 wanted

I am looking for an RC-24 control head for my ID-1.  If anyone has one they
do not want/need please contact me off list.

Thanks!

Randy, W7HR
WD7STR
Port Orchard, WA







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Re: [DSTAR_DIGITAL] Re: How much bandwidth?

2008-11-13 Thread Charles Scott
Al:

Note that with those frequencies and transmission modes that not quite 
line-of-site doesn't cut it. In fact, having a clear visual path 
doesn't always cut it. If there's any significant Fresnel Zone intrusion 
by obstructions, your reliability goes right out the window. In fact, 
it's possible to have situations where you can see the other end just 
fine, but you can't use the path at all.

Unfortunately, way too many fixed wireless companies determine if the 
path is good by trying it from the customer's location.
If it works, they assume it's OK. But in reality, all they know is that 
it worked at that point in time.

You may run into the same thing. If you don't have a known good path, it 
might work when you set it up but become unreliable at times after that. 
If it's something you want to rely on, you should really do a path 
study. Below is a link to software that will help.

http://www.cplus.org/rmw/english1.html

Chuck - N8DNX


Al Wolfe wrote:
 Thanks to all who responded. We are playing with the idea of an 802.11? 
 link to one of a couple of hams who are about two miles away. However, the 
 path is not quite line-of-site. Guess we'll have to find a couple of boxes 
 and play.

 Al, K9SI

 [ED - Tim K6BIV uses wifi on 5Ghz from his access point to the K6MDD Mount 
 Diablo repeater site in CA - 73, Steve NU5D]

   


[DSTAR_DIGITAL] D-Star Demo In Publiic School-11-18-08 @ 15.00 HOURS-Please read

2008-11-13 Thread Hal Ray Pagel
We will be doing another D-Star Demo in Temple, Texas for a group of
10 to 12 year old Grade School kids. QSOs should begin about 9:00AM CST, 15:00 
UTC on November 18, 2008. We will be calling on individual reflectors, and 
direct as well so any hams in countries with third party agreements, we may be 
calling you. The demo should last about 1 1/2 hours. We will have the kids 
working third party with questions about you and your QTH. We look forward to 
speaking to as many as possible and thank you in advance for helping us promote 
ham radio.

73

Hal Pagel - N5Jll






Re: [DSTAR_DIGITAL] Re: Ham Radio D-Star Demos-PLEASE READ!

2008-11-13 Thread Brad Rehm
Mike,

I don't have one, but as I remember, Radio Shack used to carry ham intro
material.

(I'll be in Ft. Worth on the 18th.  Won't be available to help.)

73,
Brad, KV5V
Salado


On 11/10/08, Michael C. Sherrod [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

   As a result of the d-star presentation to a local elementary school, I
 visited another local school where my daughter, Courtney, is a 1st
 Grade Teacher and the school Principal has asked to see if it would be
 possible for the d-star group to present a similar presentation to a
 group of 6th, 7th and 8th grade science students at Temple Education
 Center on November 18, 2008 at 9:00am. In addition to this, I need to
 get a current Tech License manual to loan to the Principal of that
 school who now wishes to get his Tech license.

 73
 Mike Sherrod - WB5PBS
 

 



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Re: [DSTAR_DIGITAL] Re: How much bandwidth?

2008-11-13 Thread kevin asato
Remember, too that if you sight a path that has trees below, the trees will 
eventually grow into your path. I have a customer I am working with using 
licensed point to point microwave that has this problem on a couple of shots. 
One had to be abandoned/reengineered/rerouted. The other he is allowed to prune 
the tree to make it between the mountain top repeater and the central dispatch 
office down below.

73,
kevin
kc6pob

--- On Thu, 11/13/08, Charles Scott [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
From: Charles Scott [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [DSTAR_DIGITAL] Re: How much bandwidth?
To: dstar_digital@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thursday, November 13, 2008, 11:21 AM











Al:



Note that with those frequencies and transmission modes that not quite 

line-of-site doesn't cut it. In fact, having a clear visual path 

doesn't always cut it. If there's any significant Fresnel Zone intrusion 

by obstructions, your reliability goes right out the window. In fact, 

it's possible to have situations where you can see the other end just 

fine, but you can't use the path at all.



Unfortunately, way too many fixed wireless companies determine if the 

path is good by trying it from the customer's location.

If it works, they assume it's OK. But in reality, all they know is that 

it worked at that point in time.



You may run into the same thing. If you don't have a known good path, it 

might work when you set it up but become unreliable at times after that. 

If it's something you want to rely on, you should really do a path 

study. Below is a link to software that will help.



http://www.cplus. org/rmw/english1 .html



Chuck - N8DNX



Al Wolfe wrote:

 Thanks to all who responded. We are playing with the idea of an 802.11? 

 link to one of a couple of hams who are about two miles away. However, the 

 path is not quite line-of-site. Guess we'll have to find a couple of boxes 

 and play.



 Al, K9SI



 [ED - Tim K6BIV uses wifi on 5Ghz from his access point to the K6MDD Mount 
 Diablo repeater site in CA - 73, Steve NU5D]



   


  




 

















  

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[DSTAR_DIGITAL] Re: How much bandwidth?

2008-11-13 Thread k7ve
These folks have 900 MHz. stuff that has more range at about T1
speeds, they have amateur radio discounts if you ask. (Not published
on site.)

http://www.avalanwireless.com/index.htm

You have to setup an account to get into their store, but I haven't
been spammed by them. (YMMV)






[DSTAR_DIGITAL] Bringing New D-STAR Hardware and Software into the Network - A Proposal

2008-11-13 Thread John D. Hays
I am starting this topic (and cross posting to reach as many interested
parties as possible) to open what hopefully will be a cooperative dialog to
establish some guidelines and rules that will help foster experimentation
and innovation on D-STAR while respecting the wishes of system (repeaters,
gateways, and reflectors) operators.  The result should be a mutally
agreeable set of terms that everyone can sign on to.

Why is this necessary?

To this point there have been a relatively few developers working on D-STAR
projects that have any significant impact on the infrastructure.  There
currently are at least two gateway replacement projects underway (OpenDSTAR
and OpenBridge) and numerous active development projects, some open and some
closed that can reach into the network in new ways (for example rtp_dir,
which provides an alternative to DVTOOL for accessing the network using the
DV Dongle, but also has the capability to bridge in other networks such as
IRLP, Allstar/Asterisk, and Echolink).  The development of some of these
tools can be disruptive to systems if not properly developed and vetted to
the community.

It is hoped that we can get a spirit of cooperation on software and hardware
development to further D-STAR as the new Digital standard for Amateur Radio
local and linked communications.

Here are my starting points.  The guidelines should be short, to the point,
few and clear.

Part 1 - D-STAR Reflectors

1. The owners of reflectors, repeaters, and gateways have a right to manage
their systems in the best interests of their respective user communities.
1.1 Use of these resources for *testing *new software and/or hardware should
only be undertaken by the consent of the operator or their designated agent.
1.2 *Linking* to D-STAR reflectors shall be treated equally by class of
connection. In other words if you permit software/hardware from one
developer/manufacturer, that has followed the principles of this agreement
on your reflector, you must treat all similar technology in the class
equally. You can discriminate based on regulatory requirements of your on
air licensing authority, illegal activity, or if the content is generally
and consistently offensive by connection source (operator) Example classes
include:
1.2.1 Individual operators using Internet connections by a device like the
DV Dongle (Examples: DVTool, rtp_dir in non-bridged single operator mode)
1.2.2 A native D-STAR gateway using G2, DPLUS, or similar linking
1.2.3 A bridged native D-STAR reflector
1.2.4 A non-native (e.g. Analog FM) repeater using a device like the DV
Dongle under automatic control.
1.2.5 A non-native reflector (IRLP or EchoLink) using a device like the DV
Dongle under automatic control.
1.2.6 A non-native repeater or reflector with a control operator actively
monitoring and managing the connection.
1.3 Cross linking of non-native D-STAR and D-STAR gateways, reflectors, or
repeaters for routine networks will only be undertaken upon mutual agreement
of the operators of the respective systems.
1.3.1 Immediate emergency communications (safety of Life or Property) does
not require prior agreement for short linking to facilitate that
communication.
1.4 Short demonstrations by any accepted class of operation are permitted
without prior permission if the reflector is not in active use by a
scheduled net or operating activity.
1.5 Operators of D-STAR reflectors will politely notify users, of any
connection class, if there is a problem with the use of the reflector.
1.5.1 Operators of the connecting system will comply with published
standards for a reflector..
1.5.2 If the operator of a connecting system will not comply the operator of
the reflector may, at his own descrision implement methods and procedures to
stop the undesired connection.
1.6 Operators of reflectors will publish their policies, by class of
connection/operation, and contact information, in a single repository on the
Internet (TBD - d-starusers.org?)
1.6.1 A consumable XML standard shall be established to define these
operating rules so that software can query and automatically determine if
its class of connection/operation is permitted.
1.7 The reflector community is encouraged to establish a test reflector for
use by developers to test their devices and software.


Part 2 - Developers

2. Developers will use good engineering practices to avoid introducing
instability into the D-STAR infrastructure.
2.1 Developers will always obtain permission before testing against any
system; repeater, bridge, reflector, gateway, user radio, etc.
2.1.1 If designated test systems exist, thorough testing should be completed
and reviewed on those test systems before testing against the live
infrastructure (gateways, repeaters, trust server, etc.)
2.1.2 If designated test systems do not exist, the developer should submit
specifications of what protocols, interfaces, components, etc. will be
tested, the methodoogy of the tests, risks, and so forth to the operator of
any