[DSTAR_DIGITAL] DStar Nets
Hello DStar Family, I would like to know if anyone has an up to date list of nets that are being held on DStar. Do you know of a net that is not listed below? Please post any net listings that you are aware of so others can check in and hear what is going on in the world of DStar! Ozark Mtn Sunday 01:00 UTC REF001 C Southeastern Weather Net Sunday 01:00 UTC REF002 A PDRDV DV Weekly Monday 00:00 UTC K3PDR B Gwinnett County (GA) Monday 00:30 UTC WD4STR B EPANJNY EPA, NJ, NY Regional EmComm Net Tuesday 23:00 UTC REF020 A New England Amateur Tuesday 00:00 UTC REF010 C North Carolina Tuesday 01:00:00 UTC REF017 C Birmingham Amateur Radio Club Tuesday 01:30 REF002 B San Diego Tech Tuesday 03:00 UTC REF012 B Floridnesdaya State-Wide DV Net Wednesday 01:00 UTC REF004 B Worldwide DVAP Net Wednesday 01:00 UTC REF014 C Los Angeles D-Star Nets Wednesday 03:00 REF012 B Australia Net Thursday 10:00 UTC REF003 C Malfunction Junction ARC SC DSTAR Thusday 23:45 UTC KJ4BWK C EMDRC D-Star Net Thursday 00:00 UTC REF003 C North Carolina Thursday 00:30 REF017 C Canadian Friday 01:00 UTC REF016 B Thank you, Bob, N3PUG
Re: [DSTAR_DIGITAL] DStar Nets
http://www.dstarinfo.com/Nets/Nets.aspx On 6/3/2010 9:18 AM, Bob N3PUG wrote: Hello DStar Family, I would like to know if anyone has an up to date list of nets that are being held on DStar. Please TRIM your replies or set your email program not to include the original message in reply unless needed for clarity. ThanksYahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dstar_digital/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dstar_digital/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: dstar_digital-dig...@yahoogroups.com dstar_digital-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: dstar_digital-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [DSTAR_DIGITAL] DStar Nets
Now since 145.67 is the d-star simplex frequency who is using it for simplex nets ? --- On Thu, 6/3/10, Bob N3PUG n3...@yahoo.com wrote:
Re: [DSTAR_DIGITAL] DStar Nets
At 09:18 AM 6/3/2010, Bob N3PUG wrote: North Carolina Thursday 00:30 REF017 C Hi, Bob, Delete this net (North Carolina Thursday 00:30 REF017 C). North Carolina D-STAR has consolidated on the other net listed, Tuesday at 0100Z on Reflector 17C. Everybody's welcome on that one. You don't have to have a southern accent, and if you think barbecue is a noun, not a verb, you'll feel right at home. 73, Gary KN4AQ ARVN: Amateur Radio//Video News Gary Pearce KN4AQ 508 Spencer Crest Ct. Cary, NC 27513 mailto:kn...@arvidionews.comkn...@arvideonews.com 919-380-9944 www.ARVideoNews.com
Re: [DSTAR_DIGITAL] Re: Dstar
On 6/2/2010 3:41 AM, J. Moen wrote: Nate WY0X wrote: The guy asked if you could run D-STAR Gateways on wimpy computers. No, N9HSM's question was simply I got a question How [far] can you be be from the Dstar repeater before you drop out? or How close the Dstar has to be before you can get into. Sorry, I mixed up two threads. One of them may have been over on -Gateway, as I put all D-STAR mail into the same folder, automagically, up on the server before I ever read it. :-) Nate WY0X
[DSTAR_DIGITAL] D-STAR 2M Simplex - 145.67 (Was: DStar Nets)
On Jun 3, 2010, at 4:32 PM, Rusty Hemenway wrote: Id’ not heard about this freq being the d-star simplex freq. Is it coordinated nationwide? Wish I had known this as I just returned from a over 2000 mile trip across the country. Rusty K1GGS There is no national coordinating body, but where the frequency is not heavily used, D-STAR users have been standardizing on it around the country. Most repeater coordinators will not coordinate simplex frequencies, their use tends to start grassroots until there is a gentle-person's agreement that a particular frequency will be used for a particular application, this was what happened for 145.01 for AX.25 packet, 144.39 for APRS and so forth. John D. Hays Amateur Radio Station K7VE PO Box 1223 Edmonds, WA 98020-1223 VOIP/SIP: j...@hays.org Phone: 206-801-0820 801-790-0950 Email: j...@hays.org
Re: [DSTAR_DIGITAL] Re: Dstar
On 6/2/2010 5:39 AM, Woodrick, Ed wrote: You've been a part of this same D-STAR Signal Coverage conversation many times and the answer is always the same, time after time. And you don't seem to see where even classic BER calculations have significant issues defining the quality of the signal that is received. The FEC plays havoc with classical signal measurements. Actually Ed, I have always said the BER dropout point is a TEST point. A known place where you can compare system-to-system. You can't make better what you can't measure. Been doing this kind of measurement (with and without FEC) for decades in land-line digital telco... it works just fine If a company says, at X% BER our chip gives up then you have a known test point. FEC doesn't matter... because the FEC is included and part of that specification. The chip can have the best FEC in the world, it still drops out at the same point, time after time, consistently -- giving the perfect test point. Nate WY0X
Re: [DSTAR_DIGITAL] Re: Dstar
On Jun 3, 2010, at 4:49 PM, Nate Duehr wrote: On 6/2/2010 5:39 AM, Woodrick, Ed wrote: You’ve been a part of this same D-STAR Signal Coverage conversation many times and the answer is always the same, time after time. And you don’t seem to see where even classic BER calculations have significant issues defining the quality of the signal that is received. The FEC plays havoc with classical signal measurements. Actually Ed, I have always said the BER dropout point is a TEST point. A known place where you can compare system-to-system. You can't make better what you can't measure. Been doing this kind of measurement (with and without FEC) for decades in land-line digital telco... it works just fine If a company says, at X% BER our chip gives up then you have a known test point. FEC doesn't matter... because the FEC is included and part of that specification. The chip can have the best FEC in the world, it still drops out at the same point, time after time, consistently -- giving the perfect test point. Nate WY0X __._,_.__ The company claims 20% BER to loss of usable signal on AMBE chips. _ John D. Hays Amateur Radio Station K7VE PO Box 1223 Edmonds, WA 98020-1223 VOIP/SIP: j...@hays.org Phone: 206-801-0820 801-790-0950 Email: j...@hays.org
RE: [DSTAR_DIGITAL] D-STAR 2M Simplex - 145.67 (Was: DStar Nets)
Thanks John. Guess I'll have to add that one to my list. RUsty From: dstar_digital@yahoogroups.com [mailto:dstar_digi...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of John Hays Sent: Thursday, June 03, 2010 4:42 PM To: dstar_digital@yahoogroups.com Subject: [DSTAR_DIGITAL] D-STAR 2M Simplex - 145.67 (Was: DStar Nets) On Jun 3, 2010, at 4:32 PM, Rusty Hemenway wrote: Id' not heard about this freq being the d-star simplex freq. Is it coordinated nationwide? Wish I had known this as I just returned from a over 2000 mile trip across the country. Rusty K1GGS There is no national coordinating body, but where the frequency is not heavily used, D-STAR users have been standardizing on it around the country. Most repeater coordinators will not coordinate simplex frequencies, their use tends to start grassroots until there is a gentle-person's agreement that a particular frequency will be used for a particular application, this was what happened for 145.01 for AX.25 packet, 144.39 for APRS and so forth. John D. Hays Amateur Radio Station K7VE http://k7ve.org PO Box 1223 Edmonds, WA 98020-1223 VOIP/SIP: j...@hays.org Phone: 206-801-0820 801-790-0950 Email: j...@hays.org
Re: [DSTAR_DIGITAL] Re: Multiple 2820s / one callsign question
On 6/2/2010 11:30 AM, Gary Pearce KN4AQ wrote: Hi, Pete (and the group), Is the 8th position ID character included in call sign routing to individuals? If I have KN4AQ and KN4AQ^^A both registered (which I do, with ^ meaning the space character), are they treated totally separately? For example: KN4AQ used Repeater A, then sat there monitoring. An hour later KN4AQ^^A used Repeater B, then continued to monitor. Another hour later, someone on a distant repeater attempts call sign routing to KN4AQ. Would that call be routed to Repeater A or Repeater B? Sorry for appearing pedantic about it, but I'm looking for crystal clarity! 73, Gary KN4AQ Gary, They're treated separately. Here's why. The whole string is used as the address. KN4AQ in your example... ... is really KN4AQ___ (three spaces). KN4AQ + A in your example... ... is really KN4AQ__A. ...in the eyes of the routing code, the two don't match each other at all. And that's what happens in a route, the incoming packet's destination information is checked for a match. It's actually pretty brilliant. By displaying it as a callsign and another field on the user-interface in the web, it saves confusion, in a way, while creating a multiple-radio feature out of nothing more than a user-interface display choice by the developer. Imagine if it were displayed as one field, and users had to actually type in KN4AQ___ for one radio, and KN4AQ__A for another... Yuck. :-) Nate WY0X
Re: [DSTAR_DIGITAL] Re: Dstar
On 6/3/2010 5:52 PM, John Hays wrote: The company claims 20% BER to loss of usable signal on AMBE chips. Yeah, they couched it. (I've seen that spec too.) That's not the drop-out point, that's usable... you can't build a scale off of that as a known starting point. Usable could mean a lot of things. Nate WY0X Please TRIM your replies or set your email program not to include the original message in reply unless needed for clarity. ThanksYahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dstar_digital/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dstar_digital/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: dstar_digital-dig...@yahoogroups.com dstar_digital-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: dstar_digital-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[DSTAR_DIGITAL] Re: DPRS issue
Is there a list somewhere that tells what the OTHER symbols are? Thanks, Tom KC9ONY --- In dstar_digital@yahoogroups.com, Brian Mury ve7...@... wrote: On Sun, 2010-05-23 at 14:49 -0400, Steve Lewis wrote: This was the most helpful reply received. Starting digging into GPS-A...figured out that if I have my symbol in the radio set to Other -- Other becomes nothing and you miss a character. So, set your symbol to anything OTHER than Other and it will be fine. I can hear me now. :-) Other works, but you need to change the -- to the two character representation for whatever symbol you wish to use. After scrolling down to Other, push the dial, and you can edit the text. I have mine set to /-, which is a house symbol.
Re: [DSTAR_DIGITAL] Re: Multiple 2820s / one callsign question
At 08:27 PM 6/3/2010, Nate Duehr wrote: It's actually pretty brilliant. By displaying it as a callsign and another field on the user-interface in the web, it saves confusion, in a way, while creating a multiple-radio feature out of nothing more than a user-interface display choice by the developer. It is good in that way. I think it will cause a problem with call sign routing if people adopt it frequently (M for mobile, B for base...) - they will be unfindable (my spell checker claims that's not a word) by anyone who doesn't know what ID character they're using. The beauty of call sign routing is its simplicity. I know this isn't new - it's just that most of us are only learning about it now. It's a wrinkle of complexity that has at least two sides, it seems. 73, Gary KN4AQ
