Re: [dstar_digital] Re:JOTA on D-Star?
At 01:39 AM 10/14/2008, you wrote: >Hi Tony, > >You recommendation (using the reflectors as a calling 'channel' and >moving to a working connection) makes a lot of sense. The shortcoming >will be skilled DSTAR operators being able to link, set up a contact, >unlink, and enter the UR of the contact station, make the contact, and Based on my IRLP experience, I agree totally Steve. Unfortunately, as I said previously, skilled operators, especially in the newer modes, seem to be at a premium during JOTA. Maybe we need to take a broader view of JOTA and act as Elmers for those who will be doing the actual operating on the weekend, throughout the year. Perhaps something that can be organised through our respective national societies (WIA, ARRL, RSGB, etc) as the point of contact and coordination. >then relink for another setup. The link and unlink UR's can easily be >saved in memory but it will take a little coordination to go through the >steps. These folks most likely will not have dstarusers.org available >via internet. It may be more functional to spread contacts out over >several different reflectors ? or put together a quick list of >participating URs that can be pre-programmed into the field radios ? I'm not sure the best solution to resolve these issues, but it's clear to me that those who put in the time do need more support from those of us in the know. 73 de VK3JED http://vkradio.com
Re: [dstar_digital] Re:JOTA on D-Star?
Hi Tony, You recommendation (using the reflectors as a calling 'channel' and moving to a working connection) makes a lot of sense. The shortcoming will be skilled DSTAR operators being able to link, set up a contact, unlink, and enter the UR of the contact station, make the contact, and then relink for another setup. The link and unlink UR's can easily be saved in memory but it will take a little coordination to go through the steps. These folks most likely will not have dstarusers.org available via internet. It may be more functional to spread contacts out over several different reflectors ? or put together a quick list of participating URs that can be pre-programmed into the field radios ? Thanks, Steve NU5D Tony Langdon wrote: > At 01:24 PM 10/13/2008, you wrote: > >> Hi Stan, >> >> There will be a few Scout Groups using VK3RWN B and VK4RGC B or C for JOTA. >> >> From discussions on this list we will link VK3RWN port B to REF004 A for >> part of the JOTA weekend. >> > > Just a thought, based from previous experience with JOTA and > IRLP. Back in 2001 and 2002, I was involved in JOTA on IRLP. Back > then, we used a similar idea, encouraging JOTA stations to connect to > a particular reflector. What we found was that while the reflector > was an excellent meeting place to make initial contact, where > problems occurred is when stations stared holding QSOs on the > reflector. When this happened, two JOTA stations would effectively > tie up the reflector, and everyone else would be sitting on the side, > waiting their turn. > > On the last JOTA I was involved with, we tried an experiment, and > used the reflector as a "calling frequency", and when JOTA stations > made contact, we'd pair them off and get them to make direct > contact. This worked to a point. Where there was a skilled operator > on one end, the JOTA stations would go away, connect directly and put > the kids on to talk. When they'd finished, they'd come back to find > someone else. As a service, I'd keep a list of waiting stations, so > they could be paired up as quickly as possible. > > Where this fell down was that a lot of JOTA operators were > inexperienced (in some cases, this was their first contact) with > IRLP, and were relatively inactive on air, except for JOTA. In the > worst cases, the JOTA operators were given no information or training > in how to use IRLP. I fear, this could be a big issue for D-STAR. > > Anyway, just throwing in a few thoughts. Good luck, and I hope > D-STAR is a success for this year's JOTA. I'm interested to know how it goes. > > 73 de VK3JED > http://vkradio.com > > > - [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
RE: [dstar_digital] Re:JOTA on D-Star?
At 01:24 PM 10/13/2008, you wrote: >Hi Stan, > >There will be a few Scout Groups using VK3RWN B and VK4RGC B or C for JOTA. > > From discussions on this list we will link VK3RWN port B to REF004 A for >part of the JOTA weekend. Just a thought, based from previous experience with JOTA and IRLP. Back in 2001 and 2002, I was involved in JOTA on IRLP. Back then, we used a similar idea, encouraging JOTA stations to connect to a particular reflector. What we found was that while the reflector was an excellent meeting place to make initial contact, where problems occurred is when stations stared holding QSOs on the reflector. When this happened, two JOTA stations would effectively tie up the reflector, and everyone else would be sitting on the side, waiting their turn. On the last JOTA I was involved with, we tried an experiment, and used the reflector as a "calling frequency", and when JOTA stations made contact, we'd pair them off and get them to make direct contact. This worked to a point. Where there was a skilled operator on one end, the JOTA stations would go away, connect directly and put the kids on to talk. When they'd finished, they'd come back to find someone else. As a service, I'd keep a list of waiting stations, so they could be paired up as quickly as possible. Where this fell down was that a lot of JOTA operators were inexperienced (in some cases, this was their first contact) with IRLP, and were relatively inactive on air, except for JOTA. In the worst cases, the JOTA operators were given no information or training in how to use IRLP. I fear, this could be a big issue for D-STAR. Anyway, just throwing in a few thoughts. Good luck, and I hope D-STAR is a success for this year's JOTA. I'm interested to know how it goes. 73 de VK3JED http://vkradio.com
RE: [dstar_digital] Re:JOTA on D-Star?
Hi Stan, There will be a few Scout Groups using VK3RWN B and VK4RGC B or C for JOTA. >From discussions on this list we will link VK3RWN port B to REF004 A for part of the JOTA weekend. Cheers Richard VK3JFK > -Original Message- > From: dstar_digital@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > On Behalf Of Stan > Sent: Saturday, 11 October 2008 11:22 PM > To: dstar_digital@yahoogroups.com > Subject: [dstar_digital] Re:JOTA on D-Star? > > Hi Richard, > > > > I've committed to a D-Star demo for the scouts for JOTA here in NH. It > would > be great to have a dedicated reflector or even some scheduled services > available through the day for the scouts to try. Our Repeater ( N1HIT) > internet link has just been activated here in NH and we've started linking > repeaters and using reflectors. I'm just getting up to speed on the > services > and will need a bit of coaching. Hope we can work together on some good > demos. > > > > Thanks, > > > > Stan N1THL > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > Please TRIM your replies or set your email program not to include the > original message in reply unless needed for clarity. ThanksYahoo! Groups > Links > > >
