[Duo2400] Re: GLOD

2004-08-20 Thread Antonio Malcolm
 
Speaking of which, I'm still in the market for a new processor daughtercard :-(

-Antonio

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[Duo2400] Re: GLOD

2004-08-17 Thread Tom and Lisa P
Hi does anyone know if a 2400 with GLOD is easy to fix?
Alex
Depends.  If you are lucky, its a software reset.  Less lucky, but 
not too bad, is a fuse replacement.  Bad, is a new powerboard or CPU 
is needed.

What have you tried so far ?
Mad Dog
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[Duo2400] Re: GLOD

2004-08-17 Thread Alex Santos 100MB Neostrada Mail
There is one on auction with this condition.
I appreciate your help.
thanks so much.
Alex
On Aug 18, 2004, at 2:55 AM, Tom and Lisa P wrote:
Hi does anyone know if a 2400 with GLOD is easy to fix?
Alex
Depends.  If you are lucky, its a software reset.  Less lucky, but not 
too bad, is a fuse replacement.  Bad, is a new powerboard or CPU is 
needed.

What have you tried so far ?
Mad Dog
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[Duo2400] Re: GLOD

2004-08-17 Thread Tom and Lisa P
There is one on auction with this condition.
I appreciate your help.
thanks so much.
Alex
I would guess that without testing, the GLOD is probably fixable by a 
fuse replacerment, or at worst, a new powerboard.  Roll the dice 
though...

Mad Dog
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[Duo2400] Re: Glod survey

2003-08-29 Thread Ralph Mawyer
Two major data points for GLODS seem to be heat and the Power 
Manager. The following has been posted before, but if you're new on 
the List it might save you some grief.  FWIW, Chuck's credibility and 
technical rating is 4-star.

At 10:32 AM -0700 9/19/02, chuck goolsbee wrote:
Hi Guys,

I'll also add one bit of advice that has prevented me from seeing a 
GLOD in over two years now...

After a friend of mine who runs the service area of a local Apple 
dealer told me this, I've never seen a GLOD: Never plug the 
computer-side of the AC cord into the 2400c unless it is already 
plugged into an AC outlet at the other end.

Additionally, whenever a battery falls out while the unit is 
sleeping *do not* re-insert the battery until you have plugged it 
back into a power outlet (starting with the wall-end) first.

I had several occasions when the battery would fall out while it was 
in my briefcase... and I would not know it until quite some time 
later. If I popped the battery back it would GLOD about 90% of the 
time. Bad GLOD that required some time to fix. However if I opened 
the 2400c lid, and then put it on AC power (before I re-inserted the 
battery) it would start without fail.

Go figure.

I will reiterate: since I started living by these rules, I have 
never had a GLOD.

--chuck

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[Duo2400] Re: Glod survey

2003-08-29 Thread Parkblue
on 29.08.03 02:07, Duo/2400 List at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I thought I'd expand the survey. For those who have had it happen,
 do you have any theories on why (excess sleep, plugging/unplugging
 the power supply while on, etc.) it happened? Has anyone had it
 happen after DTT replaced the IO Board? Obviously those new to the
 2400 wouldn't really know.

It's interesting that both of my GLODs occurred during or after airline
travel: my 2300 gave up directly after a Miami-Munich-flight. That route my
Powerbooks travel about three times a year, means six times x-raying. My
2400 gave up during a Dulles-Munich-flight.

Statistically not significant enough to point to x-raying though, I suppose.

After the board replacement - 2300 by Apple in Munich, first estimate around
$500, then all of a sudden free of any charge, 2400 by DTT - it did not
reoccur.

-tobias.


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[Duo2400] Re: Glod survey

2003-08-29 Thread Larry
I'm picturing an Amazing Stories Intro kind of books flapping away.

~ Larry

On Friday, August 29, 2003, at 01:35  PM, Brandy Bender wrote:

Aero dynamics aren't quite right on the 2400 they do not fly well, 
although
it did hover for a second before the plunge  ;-)


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[Duo2400] Re: Glod survey

2003-08-29 Thread Larry
Just admit it, you were playing a flight sim and got carried away.

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On Friday, August 29, 2003, at 01:34  PM, Brandy Bender wrote:

Picture this: 10th floor balcony, a cup of hot coffee, spilled on 
breasts
(boobs).  Had the 2400 in my lap.  Since it hurt like hell I leaned 
forward
and stood up fast.  The 2400 hit the deck, slid under the rail and out 
into
space the power cord kind of had it hovering there for a second then 
with a
little pop and sprong  it dropped like a rock.  Of course my husband 
just
sat there and watched it go the says Fly be free. He turns to me and 
said
wow cool lets do it again.  Over all it was really funny, and I'm 
happy it
didn't hit anyone during it's suicide plunge!

Brandy


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[Duo2400] Re: Glod survey

2003-08-29 Thread Brandy Bender
Picture this: 10th floor balcony, a cup of hot coffee, spilled on breasts
(boobs).  Had the 2400 in my lap.  Since it hurt like hell I leaned forward
and stood up fast.  The 2400 hit the deck, slid under the rail and out into
space the power cord kind of had it hovering there for a second then with a
little pop and sprong  it dropped like a rock.  Of course my husband just
sat there and watched it go the says Fly be free. He turns to me and said
wow cool lets do it again.  Over all it was really funny, and I'm happy it
didn't hit anyone during it's suicide plunge!
Brandy



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10 story fall? Do tell us about it. ;)
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[Duo2400] Re: Glod survey

2003-08-29 Thread Brandy Bender
Aero dynamics aren't quite right on the 2400 they do not fly well, although
it did hover for a second before the plunge  ;-)



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Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2003 13:56:00 -0400
HAHAHA, so it crashed eh? LOL...sorry that was awful

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[Duo2400] Re: Glod survey

2003-08-28 Thread Nicole
I thought I'd expand the survey. For those who have had it happen, 
do you have any theories on why (excess sleep, plugging/unplugging 
the power supply while on, etc.) it happened? Has anyone had it 
happen after DTT replaced the IO Board? Obviously those new to the 
2400 wouldn't really know.
Mine was a completely standard 2400 -- the only upgrade was RAM, and 
that was at purchase (back in 98).

It glodded after about three years heavy use as my main computer, 
initially always going down when I was on the internet (making me 
wonder if there were heat issues).  Sent it into Apple who replaced 
the motherboard.  It was fine until just out of repair warrantee, 
then glodded again...  :(

Now I just use it for fun and never on the internet.

Nicole

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[Duo2400] Re: Glod survey

2003-08-28 Thread Larry
HAHAHA, so it crashed eh? LOL...sorry that was awful

~ Larry, Darn Good Design

On Thursday, August 28, 2003, at 01:43  PM, Brandy Bender wrote:

None of the above for your survey.. Although the heat issue sounds 
like one of the best reasons for GLOD.
Mine never recovered from that 10 story free flight! :-)
Brandy


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[Duo2400] Re: Glod survey

2003-08-28 Thread tom bonacci


I've experienced a couple of near but recoverable GLODs.  I'm wondering
if there may be something to this:  I believe, but am not sure, that
there was something common to my two near GLODs.  I had been using the
PB with the power adapter and put it to sleep immediately after
unplugging it.  When trying to wake it, it GLODed.  Both times it
recovered after removing the battery, pressing the reset (for a while),
and re-booting w/power.  As far as I know, I've never GLODed if the PB
is put to sleep after running on the battery for a while.  Can it be
that the power manager gets confused if sleep is induced too quickly
after a power source change?

question:  has anyone experienced a GLOD when restarting from a shutdown
(and not just waking from sleep)?

-tom

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[Duo2400] Re: Glod survey

2003-08-21 Thread Joe LeKostaj
On Wed, 20 Aug 2003 09:04:33 -0400 Larry wrote:
I thought I'd expand the survey. For those who have had it happen, do
you have any theories on why (excess sleep, plugging/unplugging the
power supply while on, etc.) it happened? Has anyone had it happen
after DTT replaced the IO Board?


Larry,

My chance to experience GLOD happened when the 2400 locked up while 
innocently typing an email. I pressed the reset button on the back, 
and the machine shut down but wouldn't turn on again. After trying 
various things like pressing cmd-ctrl-on/off, holding the reset 
button for long periods, removing the battery and pressing buttons, 
etc. eventually GLOD appeared and I was hosed.

I sent it to DTT who said they found bad motherboard. Wish I'd 
asked for a more detailed explanation! Anyway, they repaired or 
replaced it in January 2001 and it's been fine ever since.

Best regards,
Joe
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[Duo2400] Re: GLOD Survey

2003-08-20 Thread Brian Getz
Never had a GLOD.

Bought new in '97

Used for approx. 4 years stock with 80 mbs of RAM

Upgraded processor to Nupowr 240 G3 and then the hard
drive to 10 gb.  

Just recently added 96 Mb RAM.

Did cardbus upgrade earlier this year.

Sadly I just lost the function of the lower PC card
slot.

However I have had to replace the powerboard twice.

First time 4 years ago, then again 3 months ago.

First time powerbook went totally dead, second time
lost battery function(would not charge or recogonize
battery).


Brian


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[Duo2400] Re: Glod survey

2003-08-20 Thread Tom and Lisa P
I thought I'd expand the survey. For those who have had it happen, 
do you have any theories on why (excess sleep, plugging/unplugging 
the power supply while on, etc.) it happened? Has anyone had it 
happen after DTT replaced the IO Board? Obviously those new to the 
2400 wouldn't really know.

GLOD - Green Light of Death, a not always terminal disease that can 
require the replacement of the IO Power board, not necessarily the 
entire motherboard. The 2400 site has some resuscitation techniques.

~ Larry, Darn Good Design

PS, Mine is still chugging along nicely and giving me two or so 
hours from the battery while playing games at Starbucks this morning.

My guess is a weak link in the power board.  Probably a capacitor 
that is slightly under spec that DTT replaces with a more robust 
version.

Thats just a near-random guess though.

Mad Dog

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[Duo2400] Re: GLOD survey:

2003-08-19 Thread Bodenschatz, Robert B CDR J42426,
Informal survey...

I have 2 GLOD PB2400c's.  One I purchased as a spare for my primary (10GB, 
240MHz/1MB Newer G3, 80MB).  Made that one my primary for about a month (1.3GB, 
240MHz/512KB NewerG3, 80MB) until it went GLOD.  Shifted back to my primary machine 
listed in second sentence, operated normally for another 8 months (from a string of 2+ 
years after upgrade by MCE Kevin), then went GLOD 'bout month and half ago.  I have 
the battery and the power adapter disconnected right now trying to unglod it...

Bob

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From: Stefan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, August 19, 2003 8:37
To: Duo/2400 List
Subject: [Duo2400] GLOD survey:


Hmm interesting. Ok.

here's mine:

g3 newer 240mhz
Cardbus upgrade
112mb ram (now back to 80mb)
25gb harddrive

That's whats been altered.

Stefan


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 Reply-To: Duo/2400 List [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: Tue, 19 Aug 2003 10:46:30 -0400
 To: Duo/2400 List [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: [Duo2400] Re: did a bad thing
 
 This is an interesting theory, rather hard to prove, but I submit this
 informal survey. Will everyone who has suffered GLOD (fatal or
 otherwise) chime in and let us know if your machine was stock or
 upgraded, and which upgrade sis you make prior to the GLOD.
 
 ~ Larry, Darn Good Design.
 
 On Tuesday, August 19, 2003, at 10:16  AM, Dan K wrote:
 
 I gotta preface these comments with - I have _NO_ hands-on experience
 with PBs 2400. Zero. Nada. None. Zip.
 
 However the thought occurs that since larger ram modules almost always
 mean higher power consumption _AND_ these 'Books seem to be known for
 rather shaky internal power supply bits, is it possible that adding the
 larger capacity ram module simply overloaded something
 power-supply-related? Something that was perhaps marginal anyway?
 
 In other words, maybe Stefan didn't do a 'bd thing' except upgrade,
 but rather the poor old 'Book simply got (over)loaded with the final
 straw(s) which broke its back.
 
 IIRC, he added a new HD at the same time, but since newer HDs usually
 are
 more frugal with power than older drives, I doubt the new HD would be a
 suspect in this conjectured PS-bits-failure scenario.
 
 just my $.005,
 
 Dan K
 
 
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[Duo2400] Re: GLOD survey:

2003-08-19 Thread Tom Seid
I have had in my possession over the years at least 5 2400's...some stock,
no upgrades, and with either Newer or Vimage upgrades...ALL have GLODED over
time...and have replaced the original IO boards at DTT. Once the original
IO boards they never once GLODED again while in my possession.
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[Duo2400] Re: Glod survey

2003-08-19 Thread Tobias
Stock 2400 with 80mb Ram. GLOD during a long-distance flight. Someone
mentioned that possibly too much sleep GLODed mine. Had to have DTT replace
the m-board.

-tobias.

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: Date: Tue, 19 Aug 2003 10:46:30 -0400
: Subject: [Duo2400] Re: Glod survey
: 
: This is an interesting theory, rather hard to prove, but I submit
: this informal survey. Will everyone who has suffered GLOD (fatal or
: otherwise) chime in and let us know if your machine was stock or
: upgraded, and which upgrade sis you make prior to the GLOD.
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[Duo2400] Re: GLOD survey:

2003-08-19 Thread COCCORP
In a message dated 8/19/2003 7:53:49 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
writes:

 I have had in my possession over the years at least 5 2400's...some stock,
 no upgrades, and with either Newer or Vimage upgrades...ALL 
 have GLODED over
 time...

Could someone out there in Petite-Powerbook land please clue a feller' in on ... GLOD?

Why do some powerbook models seem to be prone to this disease? more so than others?

I have used Powerbooks since my Duo 210 in '94, and have JUST IN THE PAST MONTH moved 
up to a PPC(!), using a 280c for many years. I have had problems with PRAM batteries 
checking out on me, but a replacement was all it needed...

Which Powerbooks get this GLOD to the extent that the motherboard needs replacing? And 
Why?

Thanks...

Craig W.

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[Duo2400] Re: GLOD?

2003-07-10 Thread Grizzly
Bob Bodenschatz wrote:
 
 2400c went into GLOD about 2 weeks ago.  Printed Sidney's procedures from my office 
 PC and worked them.  Now just getting chime and no start-up of HDD.  Sound like 
 power supply failure to you gurus?


Hello Bob:

Apple outlines removing all power from the PB motherboard as a last
resort for clearing similar Duo problems.  You might try that.  In other
words, remove the system PRAM overnight (along with all other power). 
It might mean taking your PB completely apart.  This worked for 2-4
desktop systems for me in the past.


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[Duo2400] Re: Glod repair

2003-06-20 Thread Fred Pentney
Hi EP.

If your screen has a light gray tinge to it and you can hear a slight hum
from the hard drive then it might be a blown micro fuse on the upper level
circuit board that is easily accessible.  I have posted the repair
previously - it came to me with fabulous instructions from Dan.  Let me know
your symptoms beyond the Glod and I'll start digging for the posting.

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Thanks for the help.  Many Sydney resets didn't help.  I also let the
powerbook drain overnight, but, it still has a click when I plug it in and
the green light in front turns on.  I emailed a repair service for help.  Is
there a part of the power management hardware that needs replacing?

Eben Pendleton
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Date: Thu, 19 Jun 2003 09:10:22 -0500
From: Ralph Mawyer [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [Duo2400] Re: PowerBook 2400 repair

GLOD as noted by the other poster.  You might check out Sidney Ho's
article on GLOD.

http://webobjects.uwaterloo.ca/mac2400/Hardware:Repair:GLOD

 Hi
 I have an older powerbook that has is having some trouble. I am
 trying to repair a PowerBook 2400 but having some difficulty.  The
 powerbook alternates between a constant green light and a small
 click from the speakers, when any reset is done.  I have left it
 overnight and also removed the PRAM battery for several hours
 without success.  Has anyone managed to solve this problem?
 
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[Duo2400] Re: Glod. Triumph etc... (OT)

2003-04-03 Thread Parkblue
Well, since we are steering towards a sublist *g* (riding 2400 owners) I
couldn't resist piping in... I'm between an Aero and (hopefully soon!) a
BMW R1150R - though when I saw pix of Larry's 1100S-project I started
drooling...

-tobias.

: Date: Thu, 3 Apr 2003 01:00:09 -0500 Subject: [Duo2400] Re: Glod.
: Triumph? battery From: Larry [EMAIL PROTECTED]
: 
: Sorry guys, mine is one of the new ones. 2000 Thunderbird Sport,
: besides I've always favored old Nortons to old Triumphs.
: 
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[Duo2400] Re: GLOD it seems on my 2400, and triumphs

2003-04-03 Thread Bon Davis
Bikes have given me as much fun  as little mac laptops.
I had a 77 sportster 1000, Harley till a year ago... now all i have 
is a rusty rolling chassis of a Triumph. I better not get an orange 
clamshell to go with the rust :-)

I found the 2400 i/o board at PBparts ( I think) but it was $200 !!!

maybe it is the fuse ..or something else...

the green light come on the moment i put the battery back in after a reset.
Not starting up at all.
I have a friend here who can do the board level work and i was jsut 
talking about cardbus enabling the 2400 with him. He does design for 
and upgrade chip manufacturer and he build robots.
so if i could do the troubleshooting he could do the soldering..

but i think that Dtt sounds like a better deal.
I am just wishing i had a G3 for it.
SO i am waiting.
I could end up with another 2400 to combine... that seems a good option too.
funny who we have two GLOD threads going... hope it is not a trend.

thanks everyone,.







  I tried the two different PM resets from Sidney Ho's
 page at Mac2400 site.

If you tried all the reset steps and no luck it does
look like a power board problem.

 no luck, no startup green light comes back and stays
 steady.
 ---
??  light is on or is not on?
it does make a difference.  could be as easy as a
fuse, or worst case a dead board
if you don't want to or don't have the ability to
repair yourself $150 is cheap way to go.
The G3 is nice but if you are happy with the way it is
now, don't spend the money.


 This is a stock 2400 in very nice shape with 80 mb
 ram and a 10gb
 toshiba drive (from ti-book).
 i don't have a g3 in it. but i do have a 2nd battery
 and a nice
 wireless card and a dockking staiton for it
 DTT , Brian, says he is 99% sure it is the I/O
 board. I assume this
 is the same power I/O board others have had
 replaced. He says $150
 and i should be up and running.
 If i had a G3 upgrade to install now would certainly
 be the time to add one.
 Anyone got any G3 upgrades , or any other fixes i
 can attempt?
 It seems to me that if i were to get another of
 these $300 2400's
 from ebay or this list that i would be getting the
 same old powerI/O
 board and not a new one.
 ANy thoughts on the viability of this old 2400?
 thanks...
 Bon


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[Duo2400] Re: GLOD it seems on my 2400, and triumphs

2003-04-03 Thread Larry
Wacky, I had a 77 1000 XLH that was a basket case project. I left it 
primer grey so if it got any scars i just rattle canned some more 
primer on top.

~ Larry

On Thursday, April 3, 2003, at 12:33 PM, Bon Davis wrote:

Bikes have given me as much fun  as little mac laptops.
I had a 77 sportster 1000, Harley till a year ago... now all i have is 
a rusty rolling chassis of a Triumph. I better not get an orange 
clamshell to go with the rust :-)

I found the 2400 i/o board at PBparts ( I think) but it was $200 !!!

maybe it is the fuse ..or something else...

the green light come on the moment i put the battery back in after a 
reset.
Not starting up at all.

I have a friend here who can do the board level work and i was jsut 
talking about cardbus enabling the 2400 with him. He does design for 
and upgrade chip manufacturer and he build robots.
so if i could do the troubleshooting he could do the soldering..

but i think that Dtt sounds like a better deal.
I am just wishing i had a G3 for it.
SO i am waiting.
I could end up with another 2400 to combine... that seems a good 
option too.

funny who we have two GLOD threads going... hope it is not a trend.

thanks everyone,.







  I tried the two different PM resets from Sidney Ho's
 page at Mac2400 site.

If you tried all the reset steps and no luck it does
look like a power board problem.

 no luck, no startup green light comes back and stays
 steady.
 ---
??  light is on or is not on?
it does make a difference.  could be as easy as a
fuse, or worst case a dead board
if you don't want to or don't have the ability to
repair yourself $150 is cheap way to go.
The G3 is nice but if you are happy with the way it is
now, don't spend the money.


 This is a stock 2400 in very nice shape with 80 mb
 ram and a 10gb
 toshiba drive (from ti-book).
 i don't have a g3 in it. but i do have a 2nd battery
 and a nice
 wireless card and a dockking staiton for it
 DTT , Brian, says he is 99% sure it is the I/O
 board. I assume this
 is the same power I/O board others have had
 replaced. He says $150
 and i should be up and running.
 If i had a G3 upgrade to install now would certainly
 be the time to add one.
 Anyone got any G3 upgrades , or any other fixes i
 can attempt?
 It seems to me that if i were to get another of
 these $300 2400's
 from ebay or this list that i would be getting the
 same old powerI/O
 board and not a new one.
 ANy thoughts on the viability of this old 2400?
 thanks...
 Bon


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[Duo2400] Re: GLOD it seems on my 2400, and triumphs

2003-04-03 Thread Larry
There is a NuPower 240 on eBay, search for 2400 not 2400c. Its at $142. 
It runs hot, but these are the only upgrades I've seen so far.

On Thursday, April 3, 2003, at 12:33 PM, Bon Davis wrote:

Bikes have given me as much fun  as little mac laptops.
I had a 77 sportster 1000, Harley till a year ago... now all i have is 
a rusty rolling chassis of a Triumph. I better not get an orange 
clamshell to go with the rust :-)

I found the 2400 i/o board at PBparts ( I think) but it was $200 !!!

maybe it is the fuse ..or something else...

the green light come on the moment i put the battery back in after a 
reset.
Not starting up at all.

I have a friend here who can do the board level work and i was jsut 
talking about cardbus enabling the 2400 with him. He does design for 
and upgrade chip manufacturer and he build robots.
so if i could do the troubleshooting he could do the soldering..

but i think that Dtt sounds like a better deal.
I am just wishing i had a G3 for it.
SO i am waiting.
I could end up with another 2400 to combine... that seems a good 
option too.

funny who we have two GLOD threads going... hope it is not a trend.

thanks everyone,.







  I tried the two different PM resets from Sidney Ho's
 page at Mac2400 site.

If you tried all the reset steps and no luck it does
look like a power board problem.

 no luck, no startup green light comes back and stays
 steady.
 ---
??  light is on or is not on?
it does make a difference.  could be as easy as a
fuse, or worst case a dead board
if you don't want to or don't have the ability to
repair yourself $150 is cheap way to go.
The G3 is nice but if you are happy with the way it is
now, don't spend the money.


 This is a stock 2400 in very nice shape with 80 mb
 ram and a 10gb
 toshiba drive (from ti-book).
 i don't have a g3 in it. but i do have a 2nd battery
 and a nice
 wireless card and a dockking staiton for it
 DTT , Brian, says he is 99% sure it is the I/O
 board. I assume this
 is the same power I/O board others have had
 replaced. He says $150
 and i should be up and running.
 If i had a G3 upgrade to install now would certainly
 be the time to add one.
 Anyone got any G3 upgrades , or any other fixes i
 can attempt?
 It seems to me that if i were to get another of
 these $300 2400's
 from ebay or this list that i would be getting the
 same old powerI/O
 board and not a new one.
 ANy thoughts on the viability of this old 2400?
 thanks...
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[Duo2400] Re: Glod. Triumph? battery

2003-04-03 Thread Ralph Mawyer
Nice, off-topic guys, but how about adding OT: Triumph to the subject line.

Cheers...and reminding me of the R75/7 days. ;-)

Hi Clay,

Is that a bolt on hardtail?  Mikuni carb?

My petcocks weep a bit sometimes so when I park it I put coffee cans under
them.
What do you think?  Would an 8 year old NOS (never used Duo M1499) battery
be any good?
on 4/2/03 10:38 PM, Clay Johnson at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Triumph??

 My old TT is getting ready to come out for the summer.

 Photo of its way to the shop after a bad fuel leak:

 http://homepage.mac.com/biggerfoot/ttintruck.jpg




 Triumph?  What year?  I have a 1960 BSA 650 pre-unit and a Vespa.
 Thanks to Paul Nelson and Brian H.
 Would still like to know if an eight year old NOS (M1499) battery would
 actually work.  What Duo does it fit?  What type is it?
 on 4/2/03 9:54 PM, Larry at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 Its extremely cool to grab my laptop and spend the day riding the
 twisties and then do my work in the evening at a campsite.
 ~ Larry : darn good design

 On Wednesday, April 2, 2003, at 08:21 PM, Randy  Cheyanne wrote:
 On Wednesday, Apr 2, 2003, at 09:26 US/Central, Larry Friedman wrote:

 I know that, the only reason I still want a Tangerine is that it
 matches my Triumph motorcycle. This is admitidly a lot better than a
 red wagon.
 Larry,

 Do you do a lot of computing while riding? :-) I am a Mac fan and
 really enjoy many of Apples fine designs but that toilet lid Clamshell
 iBook is like a weird cousin Earnie no one in the family will talk
 about.  Sometimes, I feel sorry for the poor things.
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[Duo2400] Re: GLOD it seems on my 2400

2003-04-02 Thread Fred Pentney
Hi Bon:

I had a glod and followed the instructions on the attached web site and
replaced a fuse on the circuit board for $1. and 45 minutes time. Have
shared this on the list before. Anyone else tried it.
http://home.socal.rr.com/midijab

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Of Bon Davis
Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2003 1:01 PM
To: Duo/2400 List
Subject: [Duo2400] GLOD it seems on my 2400


oh dear, my 2400c finally got the GLOD
I had been having troubles getting it to wake from sleep and random
hangs on shut down.

After leaving it on , with the powersupply , overnight ( a short
night) to index with sherlock it did not start after shut down.

I tried the two different PM resets from Sidney Ho's page at Mac2400 site.

no luck, no startup green light comes back and stays steady.
---

This is a stock 2400 in very nice shape with 80 mb ram and a 10gb
toshiba drive (from ti-book).
i don't have a g3 in it. but i do have a 2nd battery and a nice
wireless card and a dockking staiton for it

DTT , Brian, says he is 99% sure it is the I/O board. I assume this
is the same power I/O board others have had replaced. He says $150
and i should be up and running.
If i had a G3 upgrade to install now would certainly be the time to add one.

Anyone got any G3 upgrades , or any other fixes i can attempt?

It seems to me that if i were to get another of these $300 2400's
from ebay or this list that i would be getting the same old powerI/O
board and not a new one.

ANy thoughts on the viability of this old 2400?
thanks...
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[Duo2400] Re: Glod on 2400

2003-04-02 Thread Donald McCaig
Dear Gurus,
Mr. Davis wrote: DTT , Brian, says he is 99% sure it is the I/O
board. I assume this
is the same power I/O board others have had replaced. He says $150
and i should be up and running.

I've torn my 2400 down once and sent it twice to DTT for an I/O
board and a CPU repair. Their prices were reasonable and their turnaround
speed was remarkable - both times I had my 2400 back within ten days.
When people talk blithly about upgrading to OSX or complain about
the cost of fixing an older (but otherwise satisfactory) machine, I shudder.
If I sell my 2400/240 instead of getting it repaired and buy one of
the new PB G4's, I lose 7.6.1, 8.6 and all the apps specific to them. I
must upgrade, load and tweak all my apps: hundreds of dollars and days of
my time adjusting a tool instead of using it to make my living. Send it to
DTT.
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[Duo2400] Re: Glod on 2400

2003-04-02 Thread David Price
If I sell my 2400/240 instead of getting it repaired and buy one of
the new PB G4's, I lose 7.6.1, 8.6 and all the apps specific to them. I
must upgrade, load and tweak all my apps: hundreds of dollars and days of
my time adjusting a tool instead of using it to make my living. Send it to
DTT.
Donald McCaig
 I am unfamiliar with DTT. I have a broken trackpad button on my 
2400 and was thinking about trying to repair myself but if I wonder 
if it might be better to send it to this place if they are 
reasonable. I too make my living off my PB.

Thanks,

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[Duo2400] Re: Glod on 2400

2003-04-02 Thread Larry Friedman
At that point your best option is a 1st gen Clamshell cause it will 
still run 8.6 with the option of X.

On Wednesday, April 2, 2003, at 08:10  AM, Donald McCaig wrote:

Dear Gurus,
Mr. Davis wrote: DTT , Brian, says he is 99% sure it is the I/O
board. I assume this
is the same power I/O board others have had replaced. He says $150
and i should be up and running.
	I've torn my 2400 down once and sent it twice to DTT for an I/O
board and a CPU repair. Their prices were reasonable and their 
turnaround
speed was remarkable - both times I had my 2400 back within ten days.
	When people talk blithly about upgrading to OSX or complain about
the cost of fixing an older (but otherwise satisfactory) machine, I 
shudder.
	If I sell my 2400/240 instead of getting it repaired and buy one of
the new PB G4's, I lose 7.6.1, 8.6 and all the apps specific to them. I
must upgrade, load and tweak all my apps: hundreds of dollars and days 
of
my time adjusting a tool instead of using it to make my living. Send 
it to
DTT.
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[Duo2400] Re: Glod on 2400

2003-04-02 Thread Randy Cheyanne
On Wednesday, Apr 2, 2003, at 08:53 US/Central, Larry Friedman wrote:

At that point your best option is a 1st gen Clamshell cause it will 
still run 8.6 with the option of X.

On Wednesday, April 2, 2003, at 08:10  AM, Donald McCaig wrote:

 ...I shudder.
	If I sell my 2400/240 instead of getting it repaired and buy one of
the new PB G4's, I lose 7.6.1, 8.6 and all the apps specific to them. 
I
must upgrade, load and tweak all my apps: hundreds of dollars and 
days of
my time adjusting a tool instead of using it to make my living. Send 
it to
DTT.
		Donald McCaig

Duoistas,

	But then you're stuck lugging that giant bright orange toilet lid 
around with you... :-).  Maybe if you got a little red wagon with which 
to haul it.

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[Duo2400] Re: Glod on 2400

2003-04-02 Thread Larry Friedman
I know that, the only reason I still want a Tangerine is that it 
matches my Triumph motorcycle. This is admitidly a lot better than a 
red wagon.

~ Larry

On Wednesday, April 2, 2003, at 10:15  AM, Randy  Cheyanne wrote:

On Wednesday, Apr 2, 2003, at 08:53 US/Central, Larry Friedman wrote:

At that point your best option is a 1st gen Clamshell cause it will 
still run 8.6 with the option of X.

On Wednesday, April 2, 2003, at 08:10  AM, Donald McCaig wrote:

 ...I shudder.
	If I sell my 2400/240 instead of getting it repaired and buy one of
the new PB G4's, I lose 7.6.1, 8.6 and all the apps specific to 
them. I
must upgrade, load and tweak all my apps: hundreds of dollars and 
days of
my time adjusting a tool instead of using it to make my living. Send 
it to
DTT.
		Donald McCaig

Duoistas,

	But then you're stuck lugging that giant bright orange toilet lid 
around with you... :-).  Maybe if you got a little red wagon with 
which to haul it.

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[Duo2400] Re: GLOD it seems on my 2400

2003-04-02 Thread Parkblue
Comment from another GLOD-victim: if you like your 2400 and intend to keep
it - by all means also have a bigger drive installed.

Shortly after DTT replaced my board my HD gave up. Larry (thanks again!) was
nice enough to let me have his stock drive, and I installed it myself (not
such a big deal if you're methodical and have taken things apart before).
But what I should have done is have DTT install a bigger drive or install
one myself. If you plan to part with your 2400 in any case it's a different
story, but then replacing the board may not be feasible. So there... *g*

-tobias.

On 02.04.03 08:09, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

oh dear, my 2400c finally got the GLOD

This is a stock 2400 in very nice shape with 80 mb ram and a 10gb
toshiba drive (from ti-book).
i don't have a g3 in it. but i do have a 2nd battery and a nice
wireless card and a dockking staiton for it

DTT , Brian, says he is 99% sure it is the I/O board. I assume this
is the same power I/O board others have had replaced. He says $150
and i should be up and running.
If i had a G3 upgrade to install now would certainly be the time to add one.

Anyone got any G3 upgrades , or any other fixes i can attempt?

It seems to me that if i were to get another of these $300 2400's
from ebay or this list that i would be getting the same old powerI/O
board and not a new one.

ANy thoughts on the viability of this old 2400?
thanks...
Bon

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Subject: [Duo2400] Re: PB2400 - Mixing adaptors

The Pismo (and any other 36W or45W) power adapter is
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Subject: [Duo2400] [Duo2400]half.com battery
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[Duo2400] Re: GLOD it seems on my 2400

2003-04-02 Thread Larry Friedman
Also, is there anything stopping you from installing the I/O Board 
yourself? I haven't researched the matter so I don't know if this 
beyond home repair.

On Wednesday, April 2, 2003, at 10:21  AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Comment from another GLOD-victim: if you like your 2400 and intend to 
keep
it - by all means also have a bigger drive installed.

Shortly after DTT replaced my board my HD gave up. Larry (thanks 
again!) was
nice enough to let me have his stock drive, and I installed it myself 
(not
such a big deal if you're methodical and have taken things apart 
before).
But what I should have done is have DTT install a bigger drive or 
install
one myself. If you plan to part with your 2400 in any case it's a 
different
story, but then replacing the board may not be feasible. So there... 
*g*

-tobias.

On 02.04.03 08:09, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

oh dear, my 2400c finally got the GLOD

This is a stock 2400 in very nice shape with 80 mb ram and a 10gb
toshiba drive (from ti-book).
i don't have a g3 in it. but i do have a 2nd battery and a nice
wireless card and a dockking staiton for it
DTT , Brian, says he is 99% sure it is the I/O board. I assume this
is the same power I/O board others have had replaced. He says $150
and i should be up and running.
If i had a G3 upgrade to install now would certainly be the time to 
add one.

Anyone got any G3 upgrades , or any other fixes i can attempt?

It seems to me that if i were to get another of these $300 2400's
from ebay or this list that i would be getting the same old powerI/O
board and not a new one.
ANy thoughts on the viability of this old 2400?
thanks...
Bon


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[Duo2400] Re: Glod on 2400

2003-04-02 Thread Fabian Fang
On Wednesday, April 02, 2003, at 05:33AM, David Price [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

I must upgrade, load and tweak all my apps: hundreds of dollars and days of
my time adjusting a tool instead of using it to make my living. Send it to
DTT.

I am unfamiliar with DTT.

Old name:DTT Macintosh Services, Inc.
New name:DTT Computer Services, Inc.
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(800)622-7977, (510)661-0999

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[Duo2400] Re: Glod on 2400

2003-04-02 Thread Brian Getz
Just to add my 2 cents, I have used DTT many times
they do good work and have fast turn around.

Great if you don't have the time or technical savy to
repair it yourself.  

I use my 2400 daily in my sales job so I needed a
quick fix. Luckily I am in their area so I could drop
off and pick up, made it very speedy.

By the way, even after 5 years of using my 2400, I
still get a lot of great comments when I take it out
at a customers, they are amazed at the small size and
quality of the machine. Just goes to show newer is not
always better

 
 I am unfamiliar with DTT.
 
 Old name:DTT Macintosh Services, Inc.
 New name:DTT Computer Services, Inc.
 3095 Osgood Court, Fremont, CA  94539
 (800)622-7977, (510)661-0999
 
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[Duo2400] Re: Glod on 2400

2003-04-02 Thread Randy Cheyanne
On Wednesday, Apr 2, 2003, at 09:26 US/Central, Larry Friedman wrote:

I know that, the only reason I still want a Tangerine is that it 
matches my Triumph motorcycle. This is admitidly a lot better than a 
red wagon.

Larry,

	Do you do a lot of computing while riding? :-) I am a Mac fan and 
really enjoy many of Apples fine designs but that toilet lid Clamshell 
iBook is like a weird cousin Earnie no one in the family will talk 
about.  Sometimes, I feel sorry for the poor things.

cheers,

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[Duo2400] Re: Glod on 2400

2003-04-02 Thread Larry
Its extremely cool to grab my laptop and spend the day riding the 
twisties and then do my work in the evening at a campsite.

~ Larry : darn good design

On Wednesday, April 2, 2003, at 08:21 PM, Randy  Cheyanne wrote:

On Wednesday, Apr 2, 2003, at 09:26 US/Central, Larry Friedman wrote:

I know that, the only reason I still want a Tangerine is that it 
matches my Triumph motorcycle. This is admitidly a lot better than a 
red wagon.

Larry,

	Do you do a lot of computing while riding? :-) I am a Mac fan and 
really enjoy many of Apples fine designs but that toilet lid Clamshell 
iBook is like a weird cousin Earnie no one in the family will talk 
about.  Sometimes, I feel sorry for the poor things.

cheers,

Randy


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[Duo2400] Re: Glod. Triumph? battery

2003-04-02 Thread Milton Lukins
Hi Clay,

Is that a bolt on hardtail?  Mikuni carb?

My petcocks weep a bit sometimes so when I park it I put coffee cans under
them.

What do you think?  Would an 8 year old NOS (never used Duo M1499) battery
be any good?

on 4/2/03 10:38 PM, Clay Johnson at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Triumph??
 
 My old TT is getting ready to come out for the summer.
 
 Photo of its way to the shop after a bad fuel leak:
 
 http://homepage.mac.com/biggerfoot/ttintruck.jpg
 
 
 
 
 Triumph?  What year?  I have a 1960 BSA 650 pre-unit and a Vespa.
 Thanks to Paul Nelson and Brian H.
 Would still like to know if an eight year old NOS (M1499) battery would
 actually work.  What Duo does it fit?  What type is it?
 
 
 on 4/2/03 9:54 PM, Larry at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 
 Its extremely cool to grab my laptop and spend the day riding the
 twisties and then do my work in the evening at a campsite.
 
 ~ Larry : darn good design
 
 On Wednesday, April 2, 2003, at 08:21 PM, Randy  Cheyanne wrote:
 On Wednesday, Apr 2, 2003, at 09:26 US/Central, Larry Friedman wrote:
 
 I know that, the only reason I still want a Tangerine is that it
 matches my Triumph motorcycle. This is admitidly a lot better than a
 red wagon.
 
 Larry,
 
 Do you do a lot of computing while riding? :-) I am a Mac fan and
 really enjoy many of Apples fine designs but that toilet lid Clamshell
 iBook is like a weird cousin Earnie no one in the family will talk
 about.  Sometimes, I feel sorry for the poor things.
 
 cheers,
 
 Randy
 
 
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[Duo2400] Re: Glod. Triumph? battery

2003-04-02 Thread Clay Johnson
Not to bore the list but yes...bolt on and a now junked Mikuni on my 120TT.
A new custom Triumph is coming soon.

Battery...do not think I would pay full price on a 8 year old NOS. I have a
good PowerBook army going and I found that non used batteries equal zero
performance. 

 Hi Clay,
 
 Is that a bolt on hardtail?  Mikuni carb?
 
 My petcocks weep a bit sometimes so when I park it I put coffee cans under
 them.
 
 What do you think?  Would an 8 year old NOS (never used Duo M1499) battery
 be any good?
 
 on 4/2/03 10:38 PM, Clay Johnson at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 Triumph??
 
 My old TT is getting ready to come out for the summer.
 
 Photo of its way to the shop after a bad fuel leak:
 
 http://homepage.mac.com/biggerfoot/ttintruck.jpg
 
 
 
 
 Triumph?  What year?  I have a 1960 BSA 650 pre-unit and a Vespa.
 Thanks to Paul Nelson and Brian H.
 Would still like to know if an eight year old NOS (M1499) battery would
 actually work.  What Duo does it fit?  What type is it?
 
 
 on 4/2/03 9:54 PM, Larry at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 
 Its extremely cool to grab my laptop and spend the day riding the
 twisties and then do my work in the evening at a campsite.
 
 ~ Larry : darn good design
 
 On Wednesday, April 2, 2003, at 08:21 PM, Randy  Cheyanne wrote:
 On Wednesday, Apr 2, 2003, at 09:26 US/Central, Larry Friedman wrote:
 
 I know that, the only reason I still want a Tangerine is that it
 matches my Triumph motorcycle. This is admitidly a lot better than a
 red wagon.
 
 Larry,
 
 Do you do a lot of computing while riding? :-) I am a Mac fan and
 really enjoy many of Apples fine designs but that toilet lid Clamshell
 iBook is like a weird cousin Earnie no one in the family will talk
 about.  Sometimes, I feel sorry for the poor things.
 
 cheers,
 
 Randy
 
 
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[Duo2400] Re: Glod. Triumph? battery

2003-04-02 Thread Larry
http://www.mindspring.com/~larry.s.f/

Sorry guys, mine is one of the new ones. 2000 Thunderbird Sport, 
besides I've always favored old Nortons to old Triumphs.

~ Larry

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[Duo2400] Re: GLOD it seems on my 2400

2003-04-01 Thread Brian Getz

 I tried the two different PM resets from Sidney Ho's
 page at Mac2400 site.
 

If you tried all the reset steps and no luck it does
look like a power board problem.


 no luck, no startup green light comes back and stays
 steady.
 ---


??  light is on or is not on?
it does make a difference.  could be as easy as a
fuse, or worst case a dead board

if you don't want to or don't have the ability to
repair yourself $150 is cheap way to go.

The G3 is nice but if you are happy with the way it is
now, don't spend the money.
 


 This is a stock 2400 in very nice shape with 80 mb
 ram and a 10gb 
 toshiba drive (from ti-book).
 i don't have a g3 in it. but i do have a 2nd battery
 and a nice 
 wireless card and a dockking staiton for it
 
 DTT , Brian, says he is 99% sure it is the I/O
 board. I assume this 
 is the same power I/O board others have had
 replaced. He says $150 
 and i should be up and running.
 If i had a G3 upgrade to install now would certainly
 be the time to add one.
 
 Anyone got any G3 upgrades , or any other fixes i
 can attempt?
 
 It seems to me that if i were to get another of
 these $300 2400's 
 from ebay or this list that i would be getting the
 same old powerI/O 
 board and not a new one.
 
 ANy thoughts on the viability of this old 2400?
 thanks...
 Bon


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[Duo2400] Re: GLOD it seems on my 2400

2003-04-01 Thread Wayne Yarnall
??  light is on or is not on?
it does make a difference.  could be as easy as a
fuse, or worst case a dead board
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I just gave up on a 2400 with GLOD and just took the hard drive and memory out and put 
it in my spare parts pile.

I tried several of the long power resets and even left the internal backup battery 
disconnected all night with power off and never had the big removable battery in at 
all.

In my case doing the shorter 15 second resets would result in toggling the Green 
Light.  One time it would remain on after the reset and the next time it would remain 
off.

So did I miss any other clues here?

I was assuming I needed a new power-I/O board but since this was a free machine it 
wasn't worth spending much on since I have two 5300s and a 190.

Is there any component replacement on the power board that a skilled technician can 
do?  I have been a ham radio operator for  45 years.   I haven't looked closely at the 
board but have sort of decided not to try and repair multi-layer modern boards.  But 
give me a single layer board and I can almost completely rebuild it.

I broke a home TV CRT board in two pieces and managed to repair it and am watching it 
today.

Wayne

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[Duo2400] Re: GLOD it seems on my 2400

2003-04-01 Thread Ralph Mawyer
Bon, my thoughts FWIW:

DTT	$150
Shipping both ways:	$40+
$200 minimum for repair.
The DTT is just replacing your I/O board with one they previously 
repaired..which is fine, just don't think you are getting a 'new' one.

If you like your 2400, the $200 is probably worth it.  I wouldn't add 
a G3($300-500) on top of the repair cost, not with iBooks under 
$1000. Thought you could drop a 20GB drive in there at the same time 
for the cost of the HD, maybe $100 max...but only if you really need 
the room.

Conversely you could shop for a 2400 similar to yours. Used 2400s are 
selling for what, $250-300 or less?, maybe without the RAM or most 
likely without the bigger HDbut you could then part yours out or 
sell it DOA for $100. Net cost reduced..and yes it may GLOD also, 
then you just do it again...as 2400s drop in price. The options vary 
a bit if you know how to swap memory or HD yourself and it's just the 
logic board repair you're stuck on.

This gets to be a harder question as the 2400 really begins to show 
its age, but then again it's a killer machine for what it will do for 
$300 or so. ;-)

To really complicate your choices there's a 2400/G3 on eBay with a 
$500 Buy it Now price. I'm not a big fan of the Newer G3, but this 
seems like a nice bundle for the price. (Caveat, I have no personal 
knowledge of the machine) 
	http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=3410476141categor 
y=14908

Heck I've got three 2400s, two of which I probably ought to sell, 
just can't get my Garage Sale list built for the mac2400 For Sale 
page.

Well, I did say FWIW :-)

Good luck...


oh dear, my 2400c finally got the GLOD

This is a stock 2400 in very nice shape with 80 mb ram and a 10gb 
toshiba drive (from ti-book).
i don't have a g3 in it. but i do have a 2nd battery and a nice 
wireless card and a dockking staiton for it

DTT , Brian, says he is 99% sure it is the I/O board. I assume this 
is the same power I/O board others have had replaced. He says $150 
and i should be up and running.
If i had a G3 upgrade to install now would certainly be the time to add one.

Anyone got any G3 upgrades , or any other fixes i can attempt?

It seems to me that if i were to get another of these $300 2400's 
from ebay or this list that i would be getting the same old powerI/O 
board and not a new one.

ANy thoughts on the viability of this old 2400?
thanks...
Bon
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[Duo2400] Re: GLOD Journey- Need trackpad ribbon

2003-02-06 Thread Larry Friedman
Planning on getting the Orinoco card because its the least expensive, 
while still good. Which version of Airport works with 8.6?

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[Duo2400] Re: GLOD Journey- Need trackpad ribbon

2003-02-05 Thread Jerry Wolford
airport is up and running!

thanks!!


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[Duo2400] Re: GLOD Journey HELP!

2003-02-04 Thread Marc Sira
 When I
 plug in an external keyboard the lights on it flash so it seems the computer
 is gettng power.

It sounds like you're plugging in the keyboard while the computer is
powered. Try not to do this since it can destroy the ADB chip on the keyboard
and the computer, which would be unfortunate if and when you manage to revive
the 2400.

 After trying to reset it with the button sometimes the green light stays on
 sometimes it stays out.

This is what tends to fool people. When the light is on the computer is *off*.

The steady green light is a diagnostic condition that means the power manager
has been reset. When you hit the power switch and the light goes out,
speaker clicks etc. that's the 2400 trying to turn on. This is why the light
is on sometimes, off others. Until the computer successfully boots and reloads
the power manager code, the light will be steady-on any time the computer is
off (unless it loses all power of course, including the backup battery).

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[Duo2400] Re: GLOD 2400 --HELP!!

2003-02-02 Thread Parkblue
Been there too... 

Check Sydney Ho's excellent article on GLOD (I thought I had kept it, but
any search engine will unearth it). A long disconnect of everything -
battery and ac power - can help, but follow the instructions for a l-o-n-g
reset afterwwards. 
Sometimes PRAM batteries go boink, but you must open the 2400 to replace it.
(If you have too I think I have one spare that I bought I replaced mine in
Dec.)
And finally - if your board is bad DTT can help, for a fraction of what
Apple would love to charge you.

Good luck!
-tobias.


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Date: Fri, 31 Jan 2003 23:48:46 -0500
Subject: [Duo2400] GLOD 2400 --HELP!!
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List members

The 2400 a friend sent me after he botched a hard drive replacement needs
help.

I really would like to get it running. It has no broken pieces (except the
ribbon cable to the track pad) I did that one after a slip. It looks like it
was rarely used.

I am sure it probably needs a PRAM battery, looked original. Can that cause
GLOD?

I have been testing it with a keyboard plugged into. I got the GLOD issue
before and after the broken ribbon cable.

What is the first few things to do. I remember something about a fuse to
check.

Assuming I can overcome glod how many hundreds of dollars are track pads?



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[Duo2400] Re: GLOD 2400 --HELP!!

2003-02-02 Thread Jerry Wolford
List members,

Can a bad P-RAM battery cause GLOD?

thanks!!


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[Duo2400] Re: GLOD 2400 --HELP!!

2003-02-02 Thread Ralph Mawyer
http://webobjects.uwaterloo.ca/mac2400/   Hardware:Repair



Been there too...

Check Sydney Ho's excellent article on GLOD
Good luck!
-tobias.


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[Duo2400] Re: GLOD 2400 --HELP!!

2003-01-31 Thread Jerry Wolford
List members,

One more thig I forgot to add.

I took all apart and the HD looks like it is in correctly the boards are
seated all connections look good. The ram was in good and I tried the old
ram. I have not tried the old HD yet. Seems like if it were a HD issue it
would at least get past the GLOD level and flash the screen or something.

thanks!!

jw


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[Duo2400] Re: GLOD: need advice, please

2002-10-16 Thread Mathis Gröndahl

Hi Joel, Tobias and the rest,

 And what's your advice I should do?

It sounds like the motherboard.

 One thing is to send it  to DTT...

I did send my 2400 to DTT from germany 3 years ago and let them swap the
motherboard. No complaints until now ...

The repair was around 180$, shipping a lot more (transatlantic), but it
still was worth it. No other chance in Germany/Europe so far. And Apple
wanted to charge me $ 600!!!

Hope this helps,

All the best.

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[Duo2400] Re: GLOD: need advice, please

2002-10-15 Thread Nicole

The options I can think of in my current state of shock are:

- sending it to Apple, which will set me back at least $330 (ouch!)
- trying to sell it unrepaired
- finding a used board (are there any out there?)

Are there any other options I'm missing?

And what's your advice I should do?

I too was a victim of GLOD, and finally sent the computer in to 
Apple, who replaced the motherboard (I think it cost $400).  It 
returned, worked like a charm, *but* once the warrantee for the work 
expired (perhaps 6 months?  It was a while ago and my memory's foggy) 
GLOD returned, growing ever worse until the computer became 
impossible.

Not a happy story I'm afraid... and perhaps not typical, but I'd 
advise against sending it in to Apple.  Clearly their repair does not 
really solve the problem.

Best of luck,

Nicole

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[Duo2400] Re: GLOD: need advice, please

2002-10-15 Thread t . seid

One thing is to send it  to DTT...despite a couple 
complaints from fello listers, they just installed an 
new IO board on my 2400 for $180 plus shipping to 
and fro...
 Hi -
 
 my 2400 (stock) developed GLOD a week ago while being on 
 battery power, and I need listers-advice please.
 
 I read Sydney's article on what to do in such case, was able 
 to reset the 2400 twice for a short time (a few minutes first, 
 then for about 30 min, running Norton, rebuilding DT, resetting 
 PRAM and Power manager), but in the end it showed GLOD again. 
 I brought the machine to a good local shop, they found and 
 installed a new PRAM battery but told me just now that it still has 
 GLOD and is in need of a new motherboard from Apple. I told
 them to hold off sending it in for a day or so. 
 
 The options I can think of in my current state of shock are: 
 
 - sending it to Apple, which will set me back at least $330 (ouch!)
 - trying to sell it unrepaired
 - finding a used board (are there any out there?)
 
 Are there any other options I'm missing? 
 
 And what's your advice I should do?
 
 Thank you -
 Tobias Kaiser
 

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[Duo2400] Re: GLOD: need advice, please

2002-10-15 Thread John Szostek

Hello

I am parting with some Duo equipment.

1. Apple Duo Mini Dock, Broken release latch but release still works by
lifting lever. $10.00

2. NewerTech SCSI Micro Dock, for use with external floppy drive and ADB
input devices. $20.00

3.NewerTech Micro Dock with Ethernet port. New, in shrink wrapped box.
$50.00


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[Duo2400] Re: GLOD: need advice, please

2002-10-15 Thread Tom Lisa P

Hello

I am parting with some Duo equipment.

1. Apple Duo Mini Dock, Broken release latch but release still works by
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I am interested if still available.  Its the Minidock, not just a 
floppy dock, right ?

2. NewerTech SCSI Micro Dock, for use with external floppy drive and ADB
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3.NewerTech Micro Dock with Ethernet port. New, in shrink wrapped box.
$50.00


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[Duo2400] Re: GLOD and startup....

2002-08-02 Thread Eric Mattar-Hurlbut

on 8/2/02 1:06 PM, Nicole at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Greeting all,
 
 the gods were smiling (or laughing) because today, after the
 umpteenth attempt to awaken my poor PB2400 from an alternating GLOD
 and CLOD, it actually started up!
 
 (I've been trying for over a year, so this was a surprise)
 
 Now it's frozen on the startup screen (Welcome to Mac OS).  It's
 plugged in, battery out.  I don't know what to do.  I do have data
 that I would *very much* like to transfer to my other PB but am
 terrified lest anything I do send it back into its coma...
 
 suggestions?
 
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If your other PB uses the same drive type IDE, then why don't you swap the
drives, then get the data off, onto a CD/ ext Drive, whatever.

As to the GLOD and CLOD of your other bookI've never heard of this. What
is it?

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[Duo2400] Re: GLOD and startup....

2002-08-02 Thread Mike Drabicki

Green Light Of Death... C? Light Of Deathbesides being  the constant 
for light what is C?
-Mike

On Friday, August 2, 2002, at 11:10  AM, Eric Mattar-Hurlbut wrote:
 on 8/2/02 1:06 PM, Nicole at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 As to the GLOD and CLOD of your other bookI've never heard of this. 
 What
 is it?

 Eric


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[Duo2400] Re: GLOD and startup....

2002-08-02 Thread Nicole

Green Light Of Death... C? Light Of Deathbesides being  the 
constant for light what is C?
-Mike


A typo :)

It should have been COD, or click of death.  My PB2400 alternated 
between steady green light (and no other sign of life) and a click 
as you tried to reset the power manager, which was followed by no 
light, no nuttin...

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[Duo2400] Re: GLOD and startup....

2002-08-02 Thread Nicole


If your other PB uses the same drive type IDE, then why don't you swap the
drives, then get the data off, onto a CD/ ext Drive, whatever.

As to the GLOD and CLOD of your other bookI've never heard of this. What
is it?

Eric


I'm not opening up my TiBook (which is the functioning one), and 
without even checking I'm reasonably sure that the drives are quite 
different.

GLOD is the Green Light of Death see 
http://webobjects.uwaterloo.ca/mac2400/power_reset_by_sydney_ho.htm

If you don't know what it is (and have a PB2400), count your blessings!

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[Duo2400] Re: GLOD and startup....

2002-08-02 Thread Eric Mattar-Hurlbut

on 8/2/02 2:32 PM, Nicole at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 
 If your other PB uses the same drive type IDE, then why don't you swap the
 drives, then get the data off, onto a CD/ ext Drive, whatever.
 
 As to the GLOD and CLOD of your other bookI've never heard of this. What
 is it?
 
 Eric
 
 
 I'm not opening up my TiBook (which is the functioning one), and
 without even checking I'm reasonably sure that the drives are quite
 different.
 
 GLOD is the Green Light of Death see
 http://webobjects.uwaterloo.ca/mac2400/power_reset_by_sydney_ho.htm
 
 If you don't know what it is (and have a PB2400), count your blessings!
 
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Just an idea.  I have Duos and have had to swap drives.  Good Luck

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[Duo2400] Re: GLOD and startup....

2002-08-02 Thread sstrungis

Your daughtercard is dead.  The logic board is fine.  Mine did the same
thing, but I did not keep it on ice for a year.  Send it to DTT and they'll fix
it for cost, plus shipping plus a flat $30 for labor.

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[Duo2400] Re: GLOD and startup....

2002-08-02 Thread Nicole

Your daughtercard is dead.  The logic board is fine.  Mine did the same
thing, but I did not keep it on ice for a year.  Send it to DTT and 
they'll fix
it for cost, plus shipping plus a flat $30 for labor.

Scott


Can I send it from Canada?

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[Duo2400] Re: GLOD and startup....

2002-08-02 Thread SStrungis

They have the nicest policy.  It's cost of part, plus your shipping, 
plus a flat $30 for labor = your bottom line.  You'll have to call 
them about their shipping to Canada.

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[Duo2400] Re: GLOD (finally)

2002-01-05 Thread Jim Arnott

Disconnect all the power supplies (including the battery) and press the
reset button.  Reconnect the battery and PS and restart.

Jim

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[Duo2400] Re: GLOD (finally)

2002-01-05 Thread VAMP

tried, failed, arg it's my first GLOD

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 Disconnect all the power supplies (including the battery) and press the
 reset button.  Reconnect the battery and PS and restart.
 
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[Duo2400] Re: GLOD (what is...?)

2001-11-19 Thread Ralph Mawyer

Green Light of Death (me thinks the term was created on this 
list...can anyone remember by whom?)

Generally characterized by a solid green light on the lid and a 
simple clicking sound upon trying to restart.  Power management 
related symptoms. Prognosis and treatment varies in effect and 
duration.

This is a very good summary of how to attempt recovery...

http://webobjects.uwaterloo.ca/mac2400/power_reset_by_sydney_ho.htm

It's not something you want to have ;-)

Over the last two weeks, different members of the list
have referred to GLOD or GLOD-like problems.  I hate
to show my ignorance, but...

What does GLOD mean?  This is not a word or an acronym
I have encountered before in any of my troubleshooting
and hacking.  The Apple Knowledgebase yields nothing...
and internet searches have been largely fruitless.  So
I appeal to some kind soul who might care to enlighten
a newbie on the list.

Thanks,
Robert

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[Duo2400] Re: GLOD

2001-09-08 Thread Scott Holder


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Subject: [Duo2400] GLOD


 Ok, GLOD?  Green Light of Death?

 What does it mean?

 Yes, I am that new to the Duo's...

 Thomas Martin

The 2400 and 280/2300 have a green light that blinks when it's asleep but
still on. Occasionally, these powerbooks get in a mode where the light is
steady on and the 'book won't respond to anything. Had one of these myself
in my 2300c last week, haven't figured out what's up with it...

Regards,
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[Duo2400] Re: GLOD: new variant?

2001-06-20 Thread Sidney Ho

on 6/20/01 Shaun Krislock [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 My 2400 (Newer 240/512 G3 upgrade, 4GB HD, 80MB RAM, MacOS 8.6) was working
 fine, then it started to crash under IE5.0 when I'd press option-N (or is it
 command-N) for a new browser window.  I had a few crashes like this, then
 the 2400 was refusing to wake up from sleep.

My first ever GLOD came from an MSIE 4.5 crash, and since then more than
once from MSIE although I'm hard pressed to impute a connection.
Interesting...another MS bug???

 So I had to reboot from that a
 few times, now I have a GLOD that just won't go away.  I've checked Sidney
 Ho's advice on mac2400 but that didnt' work.  I've got the battery and the
 AC adapter out now, and I've held that reset button in for like 5 minutes
 quite a few times.  Anyway, when I have the AC adapter in (and the batter
 out) this is the behaviour of the computer: press and release the reset
 button - get a little click from the speaker (no GLOD) - press and release
 the reset button - GLOD - press and release the reset button - get a
 little click from the speaker  (no GLOD) - press and release the reset
 button - GLOD .. and it just toggles between those two states.

 What else can I do?  I'm open to any suggestions.

I think your CPU daughter card is now the prime suspect. You probably
experienced declining stability, unexplained screen freezes etc. Try to swap
in your old 603e/180 and see if that works. I just finished troubleshooting
another overseas lister's 2400 with an IDENTICAL toggling problem. Your
I/O board is probably OK and if you haven't hot plugged SCSI or done
anything too crazy the MB/fuses should be OK.

If I recall correctly, Yannis' problem (requoted by John Tree
[EMAIL PROTECTED]) was also a dead CPU. BTW he swapped I/O boards
with another lister in Germany and after a while both MBs failed--and were
revived when the original I/O boards were rematched to the original MBs.
Refer to my discussion in that (requoted) post originally made maybe 18-24
months ago? That was the verification of my own experience.

Sidney Ho



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[Duo2400] Re: GLOD: new variant?

2001-06-19 Thread Willie Roth


Sounds like what  eventually happened to my 2400. Mine however was not charging the
battery... there was a big X through it. I eventually had to
have the IO board replaced at DTT ... about $130.00 (not including shipping the book
there and back). If you could find an IO board in you
area and put it in yourself that would be cheaper. (I couldn't find one) Once that
was replaced I had no more GLOD. There maybe other possible
causes, but that was my story.
Good luck,
Willie

Shaun Krislock wrote:
 Anyway, when I have the AC adapter in (and the batter
out) this is the behaviour of the computer: press and release the reset
button - get a little click from the speaker (no GLOD) - press and release
the reset button - GLOD - press and release the reset button - get a
little click from the speaker  (no GLOD) - press and release the reset
button - GLOD .. and it just toggles between those two states.



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[Duo2400] Re: GLOD: new variant?

2001-06-19 Thread John Tree


 What else can I do?  I'm open to any suggestions.  I recall seeing an
 extended version of Mr. Ho's advice on the list a while ago, but was not
 wise enough to save it.  Does anybody have that?  Or any other advice?
 


I have had the same experience and tried everything as well as leaving with
no batt and AC for a week and dismantling reseating everything.

I eventually gave in and sent it to DTT who fixed it and it has been fine
since (6monts aprox)

Below is what I have saved. Sorry for such a big post (of course when you
get a GLOD situation you cant reach what you have saved on the subject!!)

--- all below this line is from others--

Hi Yannis, Switzerland calling. Here are the first series of steps to try,
assuming your hard drive or emergency floppy will otherwise bootup.

1. Press Power Reset Button down for 40-50 secs. Repeat 6-8 times with
battery out, AC out. If no go try with AC plugged in. Probably the green
light of death (GLOD) comes on immediately and stays on as soon as you
release the button. This is more or less by the book.

2.  In case Step 1 doesn't work, without taking the 2400c apart, pull
battery, pull AC power, and let sit hours until GLOD goes out. Reset Power
Manager for 40-60 sec. You should not get any green light as
everything should be (nearly) completely discharged. Then reconnect AC only
(you must have a reliable power supply without frayed wires) and press power
button for a normal restart.

3. In case Step 2  doesn't work, without taking the 2400c apart, pull
battery, pull AC power, and let sit 2-3 days after GLOD has already gone
out. I have come to suspect that the PRAM batteries can hold a residual
charge, not strong enough even to light the green diode, but strong enough
to maintain corrupted PRAM for quite a while longer that one would think.

If this still doesn't work, at least to get to a boing, the problem is
likely hardware related. Here a loose screw or loosened ram card would be
the least of the problems but yours seems more serious. If the screen
lights, even with a sour Mac, or blinking ?, we're into a different set of
(most likely software) problems. It is important to know if you get a
boing chime, or if the screen even lights.

FWIW, I've thought at least 2-3 times (total) I've had serious hardware
problems on two different G3 upgraded 2400s, including dead MB, G3 or PB,
but these always (so far) turned out to be something else. I've found the
2400 is exceptionally sensitive to PRAM and software corruption but this
takes some careful and patient, repetitive sleuthing. As the 2400 is
unsupported in Europe, and our airline luggage highly restricted,
resurrecting dead 2400s is a matter of serious survival. And, Tobia Kaiser
wrote:


--

Having just survived my FIFTH green light of death, I now feel like I
can put in my $.02.  I have tried the method of removing all power,
etc. but have found those to be somewhat unreliable.  For my last two
green lights, I removed the battery, plugged in the power adapter,
hit the reset button for 30 seconds, and Voila!  Chimes!  This has
now worked twice without a hitch, so I can at least recommend you try
it.  Or, at the very least, add it to the list of methods that MIGHT
work.

Best luck.

Dave


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Seeing ever more 2400s bite the dust on list, I'll come in from shadows in
the form of a generic reply to various death symptom problems posted on
list, based on some empirical discoveries I've made over the years. I use a
primary G3/320-112/30gb and a backup G3/240-80/20gb, both on OS8.6 (I'm
definitely not a fan of OS9). Since I don't live in the Apple delimited
PB2400 service areas of USA or Japan, I must have some way to keep at least
one active. I have, on several occasions, thought one or the other of my
2400s was dead and beyond repair. Each time I've brought them back (so far).
Each 2400 has been apart numerous times. In fact I left my G3/240 in pieces
on the shelf for more than 6 months before fixing it some 18 months ago,
just by re-assembly including a totally drained PRAM battery (which cleared
the corrupted Power Manager which repeated resets of every duration failed
to resolve).

It's clear that the 2400 is an EXTREMELY sensitive machine. It takes very
little to have a 2400 go into a terminal green light of death or no
light  click of death or other troubling and increasingly terminal
symptoms. Once, surfing with Explorer resulted in a freeze and the
subsequent reboot led to increasing corruption until, eventually, I got the
green light of death. Even transporting my computer in a car in sleep mode
has resulted in a no light  click of death situation--more than once. I'm
puzzled as to why. Another time, just a routine reboot under AC power on my
G3/320 resulted in ever deteriorating symptoms of terminal death, giving
every sign of a power board failure, or worse, and quite different 

[Duo2400] Re: GLOD: new variant?

2001-06-19 Thread Corina

John Tree wrote:
I have had the same experience and tried everything as well as leaving with
no batt and AC for a week and dismantling reseating everything.

I eventually gave in and sent it to DTT who fixed it and it has been fine
since (6monts aprox)

I have had the same situation TWICE. Both times after exhausting all other
possibilities and getting a lot of advice from this list, I also eventually
sent my 2400 to DTT and they replaced the motherboard.

The reason I mention this is that I am not very happy with the way my first
two motherboards only lasted about two years each! That is part of the
reason I am pretty set on getting an iBook--I just do not want to have to
replace mine again. Maybe I've been extremely unlucky, or maybe I do
something that fries the motherboards, but I just thought you might like to
know that there is a *possibility* that sending it to DTT to get fixed
might not be a permanent solution.  BTW, I never upgraded to G3, so I had
the original processor, etc. Maybe the G3 ones are better? (Only
speculation.)

Hope this helps, and good luck!
Corina




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[Duo2400] Re: GLOD repair

2001-01-28 Thread Gregory La Vardera

 Just my $0.02, I hope you had 1st class service from them, because $350 a
 repair is kind of very expensive to me.

I think the cost is overstated here. I just had DTT replace my GLODed
motherboard and swap out my HD for a bigger one I provided. The whole thing
cost $300 including return shipping by 3day fedex. I spent another 25 to
ship it to them 2day fedex. This is less than half what the other person
claimed.

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[Duo2400] Re: GLOD repair

2001-01-28 Thread Paul Miller

If I've now deplete the PRAM battery by having the
glow (even with the li-ion and power cord out it would
glow)  does DTT have a solution for that?  Seems a
shame to do the work and not have a new PRAM bat
solution.

Paul


--- Gregory La Vardera [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Just my $0.02, I hope you had 1st class service
 from them, because $350 a
  repair is kind of very expensive to me.
 
 I think the cost is overstated here. I just had DTT
 replace my GLODed
 motherboard and swap out my HD for a bigger one I
 provided. The whole thing
 cost $300 including return shipping by 3day fedex. I
 spent another 25 to
 ship it to them 2day fedex. This is less than half
 what the other person
 claimed.
 
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