Re: [dwm] Announcing awesome
Does anyone has tryed xcompmgr -Ffc under dwm? :))) Quite eyecandy, but not much useful/fast...but nice to see. http://news.nopcode.org/without.png vs http://news.nopcode.org/with.png The yeahlaunch shadow is quite nice to see too, but you have to try it by yourself. I'm not planning to make a gif :P --pancake On Thu, 20 Sep 2007 16:00:15 +0200 James Hoving [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I would say that the lines of code limit is very smart! It make you think before you change/add something, that is much better the wondering how things got so out of hand further down the road. Any idiot can make software do anything with unlimited space/resources. That is the reason we have so much stupid bloatware. PS. I run DWM without any patches since I see no need for them, the code does what it should and does it extremely well. On 9/20/07, Jeremy O'Brien [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, Sep 20, 2007 at 03:09:10PM +0200, Julien Danjou wrote: Hi everybody, With the approval of Anselm, I'd like to present to you a new project called awesome[1], a direct neighbour of dwm. awesome is, yet, another window manager, which is based on dwm source code. In contrast to dwm, it does not have any limit about its SLOC size. Consequently, it already includes some patches or ideas that people dropped around in master. Any feedback will be appreciated, but in order to respect this list which is about dwm, please answer to me or to the awesome list[2][3]. Happy hacking, Cheers, [1] http://awesome.naquadah.org [2] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [3] http://awesome.naquadah.org/community/ -- Julien Danjou // Λ̊ [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://julien.danjou.info // 9A0D 5FD9 EB42 22F6 8974 C95C A462 B51E C2FE E5CD there's no stupid limit on its source size, we have features we want. That seems rather combative! Are you calling Anselm stupid? -- Jeremy O'Brien aka neutral_insomniac GPG key: 0xB1140FDB http://pohl.ececs.uc.edu/~jeremy/jeremy.asc Linux ambelina 2.6.23-rc3 ppc 7447A, altivec supported PowerBook5,8 GNU/Linux --pancake
Re: [dwm] Announcing awesome
On 9/20/07, Sylvain Bertrand [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 2007/9/20, Tuncer Ayaz [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On 9/20/07, Tuncer Ayaz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 9/20/07, Julien Danjou [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi everybody, With the approval of Anselm, I'd like to present to you a new project called awesome[1], a direct neighbour of dwm. awesome is, yet, another window manager, which is based on dwm source code. In contrast to dwm, it does not have any limit about its SLOC size. Consequently, it already includes some patches or ideas that people dropped around in master. Any feedback will be appreciated, but in order to respect this list which is about dwm, please answer to me or to the awesome list[2][3]. Thanks for the project, I will have a look tomorrow. What I miss right now from dwm are: 1) config file 2) the old NMASTER feature for vertical tiling Maybe I should try out one of the dwm patches to resurrect NMASTER but I always back down at the thought of having to use an external patch for a long time. snip Maybe industrializing the use of patches in the Makefile would not be such a bad idea for such patchable window manager. I'm using dwm-4.3 for the time being.
Re: [dwm] Announcing awesome
On Fri, Sep 21, 2007 at 11:08:49AM +0200, Tuncer Ayaz wrote: On 9/20/07, Sylvain Bertrand [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 2007/9/20, Tuncer Ayaz [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On 9/20/07, Tuncer Ayaz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 9/20/07, Julien Danjou [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi everybody, With the approval of Anselm, I'd like to present to you a new project called awesome[1], a direct neighbour of dwm. awesome is, yet, another window manager, which is based on dwm source code. In contrast to dwm, it does not have any limit about its SLOC size. Consequently, it already includes some patches or ideas that people dropped around in master. Any feedback will be appreciated, but in order to respect this list which is about dwm, please answer to me or to the awesome list[2][3]. Thanks for the project, I will have a look tomorrow. What I miss right now from dwm are: 1) config file 2) the old NMASTER feature for vertical tiling Maybe I should try out one of the dwm patches to resurrect NMASTER but I always back down at the thought of having to use an external patch for a long time. snip Maybe industrializing the use of patches in the Makefile would not be such a bad idea for such patchable window manager. I'm using dwm-4.3 for the time being. What is so difficult in porting dwm-4.3 tile() to dwm-4.5? Regards, -- Anselm R. Garbe http://www.suckless.org/ GPG key: 0D73F361
Re: [dwm] Announcing awesome
On 9/21/07, Anselm R. Garbe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, Sep 21, 2007 at 11:08:49AM +0200, Tuncer Ayaz wrote: snip I'm using dwm-4.3 for the time being. What is so difficult in porting dwm-4.3 tile() to dwm-4.5? Probably not much, but I don't have time to maintain a patch. It's ok that 4.3 does not have NMASTER, I will just stay with 4.3 and not bother you with any bug reports for 4.3, promised. Btw, what is the preferred way to use a custom config.h with 4.5?
Re: [dwm] Announcing awesome
On Fri, 2007-09-21 at 11:20 +0200, Anselm R. Garbe wrote: What is so difficult in porting dwm-4.3 tile() to dwm-4.5? Um, you haven't released dwm-4.5 yet! Cheers! -RPM
Re: [dwm] Announcing awesome
On Thu, Sep 20, 2007 at 03:09:10PM +0200, Julien Danjou wrote: Hi everybody, With the approval of Anselm, I'd like to present to you a new project called awesome[1], a direct neighbour of dwm. awesome is, yet, another window manager, which is based on dwm source code. In contrast to dwm, it does not have any limit about its SLOC size. Consequently, it already includes some patches or ideas that people dropped around in master. Any feedback will be appreciated, but in order to respect this list which is about dwm, please answer to me or to the awesome list[2][3]. Happy hacking, Cheers, [1] http://awesome.naquadah.org [2] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [3] http://awesome.naquadah.org/community/ -- Julien Danjou // Λ̊ [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://julien.danjou.info // 9A0D 5FD9 EB42 22F6 8974 C95C A462 B51E C2FE E5CD there's no stupid limit on its source size, we have features we want. That seems rather combative! Are you calling Anselm stupid? -- Jeremy O'Brien aka neutral_insomniac GPG key: 0xB1140FDB http://pohl.ececs.uc.edu/~jeremy/jeremy.asc Linux ambelina 2.6.23-rc3 ppc 7447A, altivec supported PowerBook5,8 GNU/Linux pgpCTqG68X0R0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [dwm] Announcing awesome
On 9/20/07, Jeremy O'Brien [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: there's no stupid limit on its source size, we have features we want. That seems rather combative! Are you calling Anselm stupid? I wouldn't have used the word stupid, but I personally think excessively concentrating on SLOC tends to lead to more contorted, difficult to read/modify code than making the goal that programs have a well-defined purpose with no more AND NO LESS features than are relevant for this purpose. I particularly thinks it's a mistake to remove well-thought out, useful features because it removes lines of code. -- cheers, dave tweed__ [EMAIL PROTECTED] Rm 124, School of Systems Engineering, University of Reading. we had no idea that when we added templates we were adding a Turing- complete compile-time language. -- C++ standardisation committee
Re: [dwm] Announcing awesome
At 1190296032 time_t, Jeremy O'Brien wrote: there's no stupid limit on its source size, we have features we want. That seems rather combative! Are you calling Anselm stupid? Not at all. I think the idea is quite stupid, YMMV. Smart people can have weird idea, I'm sure you're aware about that ;-) -- Julien Danjou // Λ̊ [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://julien.danjou.info // 9A0D 5FD9 EB42 22F6 8974 C95C A462 B51E C2FE E5CD
Re: [dwm] Announcing awesome
I would say that the lines of code limit is very smart! It make you think before you change/add something, that is much better the wondering how things got so out of hand further down the road. Any idiot can make software do anything with unlimited space/resources. That is the reason we have so much stupid bloatware. PS. I run DWM without any patches since I see no need for them, the code does what it should and does it extremely well. On 9/20/07, Jeremy O'Brien [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, Sep 20, 2007 at 03:09:10PM +0200, Julien Danjou wrote: Hi everybody, With the approval of Anselm, I'd like to present to you a new project called awesome[1], a direct neighbour of dwm. awesome is, yet, another window manager, which is based on dwm source code. In contrast to dwm, it does not have any limit about its SLOC size. Consequently, it already includes some patches or ideas that people dropped around in master. Any feedback will be appreciated, but in order to respect this list which is about dwm, please answer to me or to the awesome list[2][3]. Happy hacking, Cheers, [1] http://awesome.naquadah.org [2] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [3] http://awesome.naquadah.org/community/ -- Julien Danjou // Λ̊ [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://julien.danjou.info // 9A0D 5FD9 EB42 22F6 8974 C95C A462 B51E C2FE E5CD there's no stupid limit on its source size, we have features we want. That seems rather combative! Are you calling Anselm stupid? -- Jeremy O'Brien aka neutral_insomniac GPG key: 0xB1140FDB http://pohl.ececs.uc.edu/~jeremy/jeremy.asc Linux ambelina 2.6.23-rc3 ppc 7447A, altivec supported PowerBook5,8 GNU/Linux
Re: [dwm] Announcing awesome
On 9/20/07, Julien Danjou [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi everybody, With the approval of Anselm, I'd like to present to you a new project called awesome[1], a direct neighbour of dwm. awesome is, yet, another window manager, which is based on dwm source code. In contrast to dwm, it does not have any limit about its SLOC size. Consequently, it already includes some patches or ideas that people dropped around in master. Any feedback will be appreciated, but in order to respect this list which is about dwm, please answer to me or to the awesome list[2][3]. Thanks for the project, I will have a look tomorrow. What I miss right now from dwm are: 1) config file 2) the old NMASTER feature for vertical tiling Btw, what about making your git repo available to people behind company firewalls by publishing it via ftp or http?
Re: [dwm] Announcing awesome
On 9/20/07, Tuncer Ayaz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 9/20/07, Julien Danjou [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi everybody, With the approval of Anselm, I'd like to present to you a new project called awesome[1], a direct neighbour of dwm. awesome is, yet, another window manager, which is based on dwm source code. In contrast to dwm, it does not have any limit about its SLOC size. Consequently, it already includes some patches or ideas that people dropped around in master. Any feedback will be appreciated, but in order to respect this list which is about dwm, please answer to me or to the awesome list[2][3]. Thanks for the project, I will have a look tomorrow. What I miss right now from dwm are: 1) config file 2) the old NMASTER feature for vertical tiling Btw, what about making your git repo available to people behind company firewalls by publishing it via ftp or http? Sorry, I should have posted that to awesome's mailinglist instead.
Re: [dwm] Announcing awesome
On 9/20/07, Tuncer Ayaz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 9/20/07, Julien Danjou [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi everybody, With the approval of Anselm, I'd like to present to you a new project called awesome[1], a direct neighbour of dwm. awesome is, yet, another window manager, which is based on dwm source code. In contrast to dwm, it does not have any limit about its SLOC size. Consequently, it already includes some patches or ideas that people dropped around in master. Any feedback will be appreciated, but in order to respect this list which is about dwm, please answer to me or to the awesome list[2][3]. Thanks for the project, I will have a look tomorrow. What I miss right now from dwm are: 1) config file 2) the old NMASTER feature for vertical tiling Forget about 1). Using config.h saves us from incompatibilites and makes it possible to use C macros to make the hotkey definitions cleaner by for example using #define RDESKTOP rdesktop your options here. snip
Re: [dwm] Announcing awesome
On 9/20/07, Tuncer Ayaz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 9/20/07, Julien Danjou [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi everybody, With the approval of Anselm, I'd like to present to you a new project called awesome[1], a direct neighbour of dwm. awesome is, yet, another window manager, which is based on dwm source code. In contrast to dwm, it does not have any limit about its SLOC size. Consequently, it already includes some patches or ideas that people dropped around in master. Any feedback will be appreciated, but in order to respect this list which is about dwm, please answer to me or to the awesome list[2][3]. Thanks for the project, I will have a look tomorrow. What I miss right now from dwm are: 1) config file 2) the old NMASTER feature for vertical tiling Maybe I should try out one of the dwm patches to resurrect NMASTER but I always back down at the thought of having to use an external patch for a long time. snip
Re: [dwm] Announcing awesome
2007/9/20, Tuncer Ayaz [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On 9/20/07, Tuncer Ayaz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 9/20/07, Julien Danjou [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi everybody, With the approval of Anselm, I'd like to present to you a new project called awesome[1], a direct neighbour of dwm. awesome is, yet, another window manager, which is based on dwm source code. In contrast to dwm, it does not have any limit about its SLOC size. Consequently, it already includes some patches or ideas that people dropped around in master. Any feedback will be appreciated, but in order to respect this list which is about dwm, please answer to me or to the awesome list[2][3]. Thanks for the project, I will have a look tomorrow. What I miss right now from dwm are: 1) config file 2) the old NMASTER feature for vertical tiling Maybe I should try out one of the dwm patches to resurrect NMASTER but I always back down at the thought of having to use an external patch for a long time. snip Maybe industrializing the use of patches in the Makefile would not be such a bad idea for such patchable window manager.
