Re: [DX-CHAT] Descheo Island
Concerning the pile-up undiscipline, unfortunetly, I must admit that I fully agree. I do not know where this kind of radio behavior comes from, but it has nothing to do with any kind of HAM spirit. Strange... 73 de Nicolas F5FRM - Mail Original - De: DAVE WHITE mausop...@btinternet.com À: w8tahra...@gmail.com, dx-chat@njdxa.org, jdav...@mindspring.com Envoyé: Lundi 26 Janvier 2009 18:02:51 GMT +01:00 Amsterdam / Berlin / Berne / Rome / Stockholm / Vienne Objet: Re: [DX-CHAT] Descheo Island ..and has ask the big guns to hold off a bit. Now we know that will not happen in some parts of the world but the request may help some. I can see right now what's going to happen when they work Europe: When the operator says quite clearly for the fifth time Golf Nine Alpha Alpha Alpha five and nine, all the Italians will keep shouting their last two for ten minutes solid on the G9's frequency, overmodulating their 3kW amplifiers and without pausing for breath..even if they are in the log twelve times already. I hope I'm wrong, but experience suggests otherwise. These guys are all pretty good operators and you'll have propagation akin to a telephone line on most bands nearly 24 hours per day from where you live. Don't bother takin the time off work during the first week when the big guns will slug it out toe to toe, but you'll make it in the log easily enough during the second week. If you wait till the band's closed to Italy, anyway.Whiskey eight Tango Alpha Hotel five and nine..ITALY KILO ITALY KILO ITALY KILO ITALY KILO ITALY KILO. If you're like me you concentrate on CW where there are fewer muppets cheers Dave G0OIL --- On Mon, 26/1/09, David Johnson jdav...@mindspring.com wrote: From: David Johnson jdav...@mindspring.com Subject: Re: [DX-CHAT] Descheo Island To: w8tahra...@gmail.com, dx-chat@njdxa.org Date: Monday, 26 January, 2009, 4:39 PM Hi Tim, First may I suggest that you go to the team web site www.kp5.us and read the latest press release. The team wishes to work folks like you with modest stations and has ask the big guns to hold off a bit. Now we know that will not happen in some parts of the world but the request may help some. The team will be there for 2 weeks with very good equipment and high power. I may suggest that you not get real anxious to work then in the first days. There is no doubt that they will be calling CQ toward the end of the dxpedition. 73 Good DX, Dave - Original Message - From: Tim Holmes To: dx-chat@njdxa.org Sent: Monday, January 26, 2009 10:44 AM Subject: [DX-CHAT] Descheo Island HI Folks: Just looking for some hints and tips I am an extra class (W8TAH). My station is VERY much a little pistol IC 706MKIIG barefoot 10-15-20 Rotateable Dipole at about 25 feet 135 Foot wire dipole - fed with window line at about 50 feet -- wiht LDG AT200 Pro tuner for 10 - 80 (160 is miserable) 3 Ele Cushcraft Yagi on 6 at about 30 feet I have worked a number of DXpeditions in the past, including the VERY EXCELLENT Ducie Island group last year -- I want to try to make contact with Descheo island this february, as well as improve my over all DXing. Right now in this economy, hardware upgrades are not much of an option -- so im looking for techniques and the like. can any one give me any good ideas Im located in EN91cd TIM -- Tim Holmes W8TAH - Amateur Extra Operator Medina County AEC Skywarn Advanced Storm Spotter Certified Certified Severe Weather Specialist StormNet Chase 9 --- To unsubscribe or subscribe to this list. Please send a message to imail...@njdxa.org In the message body put either unsubscribe dx-chat or subscribe dx-chat This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org --- --- To unsubscribe or subscribe to this list. Please send a message to imail...@njdxa.org In the message body put either unsubscribe dx-chat or subscribe dx-chat This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org --- --- To unsubscribe or subscribe to this list. Please send a message to imail...@njdxa.org In the message body put either unsubscribe dx-chat or subscribe dx-chat This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org --- --- To unsubscribe or subscribe to this list. Please send a message to imail...@njdxa.org In the message body put either unsubscribe dx-chat or subscribe dx-chat This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org
Re: [DX-CHAT] Descheo Island
I think it is just a cultural thing. The Italians ham like they drive. Just kidding. Win, w0lz - Original Message - From: f5...@free.fr To: dx-chat@njdxa.org Sent: Wednesday, January 28, 2009 5:42 AM Subject: Re: [DX-CHAT] Descheo Island Concerning the pile-up undiscipline, unfortunetly, I must admit that I fully agree. I do not know where this kind of radio behavior comes from, but it has nothing to do with any kind of HAM spirit. Strange... 73 de Nicolas F5FRM - Mail Original - De: DAVE WHITE mausop...@btinternet.com À: w8tahra...@gmail.com, dx-chat@njdxa.org, jdav...@mindspring.com Envoyé: Lundi 26 Janvier 2009 18:02:51 GMT +01:00 Amsterdam / Berlin / Berne / Rome / Stockholm / Vienne Objet: Re: [DX-CHAT] Descheo Island ..and has ask the big guns to hold off a bit. Now we know that will not happen in some parts of the world but the request may help some. I can see right now what's going to happen when they work Europe: When the operator says quite clearly for the fifth time Golf Nine Alpha Alpha Alpha five and nine, all the Italians will keep shouting their last two for ten minutes solid on the G9's frequency, overmodulating their 3kW amplifiers and without pausing for breath..even if they are in the log twelve times already. I hope I'm wrong, but experience suggests otherwise. These guys are all pretty good operators and you'll have propagation akin to a telephone line on most bands nearly 24 hours per day from where you live. Don't bother takin the time off work during the first week when the big guns will slug it out toe to toe, but you'll make it in the log easily enough during the second week. If you wait till the band's closed to Italy, anyway.Whiskey eight Tango Alpha Hotel five and nine..ITALY KILO ITALY KILO ITALY KILO ITALY KILO ITALY KILO. If you're like me you concentrate on CW where there are fewer muppets cheers Dave G0OIL --- To unsubscribe or subscribe to this list. Please send a message to imail...@njdxa.org In the message body put either unsubscribe dx-chat or subscribe dx-chat This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org ---
Re: [DX-CHAT] Descheo Island
Hi Win, having driven in Italy I'd wholeheartedly agree. However you should try driving in India. The Indian driving test consists of ensuring that you can drive along in a straight line a few yards, and that you don't mow down too many market stalls and bullock carts when you steer around a corner. And that's it.. Oh, and that you can honk the horn. Even driving along empty roads at 3am everyone honks the horn. Trucks are brightly adorned with prayers in Hindi along with - in English - Please Sound Horn painted on the tailgate. I think it's just to ensure that all possible senses are used when driving. You need them. In India they nominally drive on the left.and I mean nominally. Particuarly at night, everyone (especially trucks) drives with their full beam on in the middle of the road playing a macabre game of chicken with oncoming traffic. It's even less safe to drive near the sidewalk or in the gutter as there'll probably be someone sleeping there, or maybe a cow sitting there. You drive straight through a red light if there's no policeman around - you'd have to bribe him with 20 Rupees (about 30c) if he saw you - and going through a green light you slow down and look carefully, honking your horn, just in case there's someone running the red light at 50mph the other way. On my first day in India (I lived for a while in Madras, now called Chennai) I got a tut-tut (a sort of motorcycle rickshaw) from the Taj Hotel to work and to my horror he drove straight across the traffic, the wrong way around a roundabout (a rotary to you Yanks) in the paths of oncoming buses and cars. I thought it was my eyesight at first, but the buses really were listing about 30 degrees to the left due to about a hundred people hanging off the side to avoid paying. .but depsite all this, no-one got aggravated, no-one got angry. Have you ever heard an Indian operate on the radio like an Italian? Me neither. After a while I got to know that rickshaw driver and outside the office where I worked we often talked over a samosa and a cup of that amazing South Indian coffee bought from street vendors. He and his family lived under a tarpaulin on the pavement. Yet his eight children looked as smart as the kids attending the most expensive private school in London, all in their uniform and with their books under their arms going to school. This guy was born with nothing, but he worked all day and half the night, spoke fluent English, German, French and Italian - yet spent everything on educating his children to give them a better start than he had. It was a salutory lesson in life and attitude to me, and a real eye opener. We put these exotic countries in the log, but to actcually travel to them and live there is a true life experience. I went miles off topic, but what the hell? cheers Dave G0OIL --- On Wed, 28/1/09, Win w...@winlyn.us wrote: From: Win w...@winlyn.us Subject: Re: [DX-CHAT] Descheo Island To: dx-chat@njdxa.org Date: Wednesday, 28 January, 2009, 12:48 PM I think it is just a cultural thing. The Italians ham like they drive. Just kidding. Win, w0lz - Original Message - From: f5...@free.fr To: dx-chat@njdxa.org Sent: Wednesday, January 28, 2009 5:42 AM Subject: Re: [DX-CHAT] Descheo Island Concerning the pile-up undiscipline, unfortunetly, I must admit that I fully agree. I do not know where this kind of radio behavior comes from, but it has nothing to do with any kind of HAM spirit. Strange... 73 de Nicolas F5FRM - Mail Original - De: DAVE WHITE mausop...@btinternet.com À: w8tahra...@gmail.com, dx-chat@njdxa.org, jdav...@mindspring.com Envoyé: Lundi 26 Janvier 2009 18:02:51 GMT +01:00 Amsterdam / Berlin / Berne / Rome / Stockholm / Vienne Objet: Re: [DX-CHAT] Descheo Island ..and has ask the big guns to hold off a bit. Now we know that will not happen in some parts of the world but the request may help some. I can see right now what's going to happen when they work Europe: When the operator says quite clearly for the fifth time Golf Nine Alpha Alpha Alpha five and nine, all the Italians will keep shouting their last two for ten minutes solid on the G9's frequency, overmodulating their 3kW amplifiers and without pausing for breath..even if they are in the log twelve times already. I hope I'm wrong, but experience suggests otherwise. These guys are all pretty good operators and you'll have propagation akin to a telephone line on most bands nearly 24 hours per day from where you live. Don't bother takin the time off work during the first week when the big guns will slug it out toe to toe, but you'll make it in the log easily enough during the second week. If you wait till the band's closed to Italy, anyway.Whiskey eight Tango Alpha Hotel five and nine..ITALY KILO ITALY KILO ITALY KILO ITALY KILO ITALY KILO. If you're like me you concentrate on CW where there are fewer muppets cheers Dave G0OIL
