Re: [DX-CHAT] Fw: [dx-list] SV2ASP/A
From an old dedicated CW operator..licensed since 1937 and was a high speed CW operator at WAR 41/42... Computer generated CW has allowed many operators with problems or handicaps to produce perfect CW. Yes, to answer your question, it is valid for CW DXCC. There are no restrictions on how you copy...with a pencil, on a mill or via a code reader. 73 Norm K1AA - Original Message - From: "WC7N" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Jerry K3BZ" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "(Reflector) DX-CHAT" Sent: Saturday, July 16, 2005 11:57 AM Subject: Re: [DX-CHAT] Fw: [dx-list] SV2ASP/A Well Jerry I think I qualify as a serious CW operator , Honor Roll CW and all with my Bencher or vibroplex speed key. I believe no matter how the signal is generated, computer, key, etc, what goes out over the air is a CW signal composed of dots and dashes. What you hear is a CW signal and how you copy it or generate the CW signal, I do not believe is addressed in the DXCC regs. I hear some SSB ops actually use a recording device to transmit their call and actually record the incoming signal. But I guess your theory is that it really isn't true SSB operations. Rod WC7N - Original Message - From: "Jerry K3BZ" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "(Reflector) DX-CHAT" Sent: Saturday, July 16, 2005 8:05 AM Subject: [DX-CHAT] Fw: [dx-list] SV2ASP/A Apparently SV2ASP/A is sending and receiving CW using a computer program in both directions. Does this qualify as a "real" CW QSO? Valid for CW DXCC? If the answer is yes, the next question is should it be? No flames, pleaseit's only a question. I'm not singling out Monk Apollo, there's a growing number of guys doing this. And it's a serious question I'm just wondering about the opinions of serious CW ops out there. 73, Jerry K3BZ Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-chat To post a message, DX related items only, dx-chat@njdxa.org This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-chat To post a message, DX related items only, dx-chat@njdxa.org This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org
Re: [DX-CHAT] Fw: [dx-list] SV2ASP/A
Woops! Rod wrote..."some SSB ops actually use a recording device to transmit their call and actually record the incoming signal. But I guess your theory is that it really isn't true SSB operations." I don't have a "theory" on what is "real SSB", Rod. or what is "real CW" either. I didn't venture an opinion because I don't have one on this issue yet. I'd like to hear the opinions of some serious CW operators as to the pros and cons of this "computer CW" before I form an opinion one way or the other. I don't have to have formed an opinion in order to observe that CW which is both SENT and RECEIVED received entirely by a computer LOOKS pretty similar to the way RTTY operates, or PSK31, etc... type on a keyboard, get words on a screen. I don't have to have formed an opinion yet to observe that, if it's valid for DXCC, sending CW with a keyboard and receiving CW on a computer screen will eventually get a guy a CW DXCC certificate without having to know a dit from a dah and it will be the same certificate that CW ops got years ago in the traditional way. I guess I'm just curious to know if serious CW ops consider this "computer CW" to be just as good as the more traditional sending by hand and copying in your head? Do they think it is just as worthy of the CW DXCC certificate? With some input from some serious CW ops, I can have a more informed opinion. These are REAL questions on my part, not statements, and I'm looking for answers. 73, Jerry K3BZ - Original Message - From: "WC7N" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Jerry K3BZ" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "(Reflector) DX-CHAT" Sent: Saturday, July 16, 2005 11:57 AM Subject: Re: [DX-CHAT] Fw: [dx-list] SV2ASP/A > Well Jerry I think I qualify as a serious CW operator , Honor Roll CW and > all with my Bencher or vibroplex speed key. I believe no matter how the > signal is generated, computer, key, etc, what goes out over the air is a CW > signal composed of dots and dashes. What you hear is a CW signal and how > you copy it or generate the CW signal, I do not believe is addressed in the > DXCC regs. > > I hear some SSB ops actually use a recording device to transmit their call > and actually record the incoming signal. But I guess your theory is that it > really isn't true SSB operations. > > Rod WC7N > - Original Message - > From: "Jerry K3BZ" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "(Reflector) DX-CHAT" > Sent: Saturday, July 16, 2005 8:05 AM > Subject: [DX-CHAT] Fw: [dx-list] SV2ASP/A > > > > Apparently SV2ASP/A is sending and receiving CW using a computer program > > in > > both directions. Does this qualify as a "real" CW QSO? Valid for CW DXCC? > > > > If the answer is yes, the next question is should it be? > > > > No flames, pleaseit's only a question. I'm not singling out Monk > > Apollo, > > there's a growing number of guys doing this. And it's a serious > > question I'm just wondering about the opinions of serious CW ops out > > there. > > > > 73, Jerry K3BZ > > > > > Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems > http://njdxa.org/dx-chat > > To post a message, DX related items only, dx-chat@njdxa.org > > This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA > http://njdxa.org > > Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-chat To post a message, DX related items only, dx-chat@njdxa.org This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org
Re: [DX-CHAT] Fw: [dx-list] SV2ASP/A
Well Jerry I think I qualify as a serious CW operator , Honor Roll CW and all with my Bencher or vibroplex speed key. I believe no matter how the signal is generated, computer, key, etc, what goes out over the air is a CW signal composed of dots and dashes. What you hear is a CW signal and how you copy it or generate the CW signal, I do not believe is addressed in the DXCC regs. I hear some SSB ops actually use a recording device to transmit their call and actually record the incoming signal. But I guess your theory is that it really isn't true SSB operations. Rod WC7N - Original Message - From: "Jerry K3BZ" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "(Reflector) DX-CHAT" Sent: Saturday, July 16, 2005 8:05 AM Subject: [DX-CHAT] Fw: [dx-list] SV2ASP/A Apparently SV2ASP/A is sending and receiving CW using a computer program in both directions. Does this qualify as a "real" CW QSO? Valid for CW DXCC? If the answer is yes, the next question is should it be? No flames, pleaseit's only a question. I'm not singling out Monk Apollo, there's a growing number of guys doing this. And it's a serious question I'm just wondering about the opinions of serious CW ops out there. 73, Jerry K3BZ Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-chat To post a message, DX related items only, dx-chat@njdxa.org This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org
[DX-CHAT] Fw: [dx-list] SV2ASP/A
Apparently SV2ASP/A is sending and receiving CW using a computer program in both directions. Does this qualify as a "real" CW QSO? Valid for CW DXCC? If the answer is yes, the next question is should it be? No flames, pleaseit's only a question. I'm not singling out Monk Apollo, there's a growing number of guys doing this. And it's a serious question I'm just wondering about the opinions of serious CW ops out there. 73, Jerry K3BZ - Original Message - From: "Bernie McClenny" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Daily DX mailing List" ; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Saturday, July 16, 2005 10:28 AM Subject: [dx-list] SV2ASP/A > Looks like the recent activity on CW from Mount Athos by SV2ASP/A is for > real and there maybe more activity over the next several days, per IK3ZAW, > Veronica. > > > Hi Bernie - I just talked to Fr.Apollo. Apparently he > got a new cw software and he is trying to do some > activity, as he has some spare time until the > beginning of new works around the monastery next week. > I guess he will be on for 2-3 days (as long as > monastic duties permit). He asks that people try to > keep discipline (as you know, he is not a cw expert, > and too a dense pile-up is hard to decode on pc) > I hope this helps > Best, > Veronica, IK3ZAW > > > > > > > > > The following bulletins are published on the DX-list. > > ARRL W1AW DX Bulletin on Thursday. > ARRL W1AW Propagation Bulletin on Friday. > OPDX Newsletter from KB8NW on Sunday. > 425 DX News from Mauro, I1JQJ, weekly > NW7US E-alerts once daily plus specials as needed. > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dx-list/ > > <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: > http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > > > > Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-chat To post a message, DX related items only, dx-chat@njdxa.org This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org
