[DX-CHAT] RE: [DX-NEWS] 7O1YGF

2009-10-03 Thread Ron Notarius W3WN

Have you notified Bill about this oversight?  

If you think you were charged when you shouldn't have been, I'm sure he'll
look into the matter and get it straightened out.

Human beings make mistakes.  This sounds like a small one, easily
understandable.  

Let's give other human beings a chance to correct them, before alerting the
media.

73

-Original Message-
From: kf...@njdxa.org [mailto:kf...@njdxa.org] On Behalf Of Doug Renwick
Sent: Saturday, October 03, 2009 10:30 PM
To: dx-n...@njdxa.org
Subject: [DX-NEWS] 7O1YGF

Did anyone receive this announcement:

In one of the announcements I (Bill Moore) mentioned that if a card is
received without an SASE or one IRC, that a $4.50 postage and handling
fee would be applied.

I submitted my card based on the announcement quoted below and was still
charged $4.50.

Send the 7O1YGF card ONLY to DXCC with a SASE, or return postage if
outside the US; DXCC will process the card and applicants will not be
charged a submission fee. 7O1YGF cards included with other cards will be
handled as part of a normal submission.

Doug

The water jump is long and the barrier may be high, 
you might break every bone, but it's so much fun to fly!




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[DX-CHAT] Re: [DX-NEWS] 7O1YGF Approved for DXCC Credit

2009-08-13 Thread Ron Notarius W3WN


Yup. That's exactly right. It took 9 years.

Why? Because the ARRL DXCC Desk requests documentation of some form or another to confirm that an amateur or a group are authorized to operate from entities like this that are normally difficult to near-impossible to operate from. 

Why is that? One word: Romeo. Or, if you prefer, three words: Dr. Don Miller. Amongst many (fortunately, very relatively few) others who didn't operate from where they said they were. To say nothing of governments, usually after a change in administration, that claim that individuals who said they were operating legally weren't (remember the 9U fiasco a few years back?)

So why now? That's a good question. I asked that of Bill when he replied to a quip I'd made on another reflector (my trips to Dayton with K3AIR will never be the same, we no longer have 7O to argue over!), but he's out of the office at an event, so i don't know if or when I will hear from him.

If I had to guess -- and remember, this is a guess -- I know that in the past there has been a lack of documentation provided to the DXCC desk. Which is why the operation was in "pending" status for so long. I believe N7NG said at one point during his time at the League that they just needed SOMETHING to show that they had permission from the national government to operate -- and it wasn't a case that they didn't believe the team wasn't there, but (and this is my interpretation) because of past precedent, they had to ask.

Remember, though, that 7O1YGF was in "pending" status all these years. It wasn't a question of anyone's mind being changed -- they just needed that shred of evidence. Obviously, something occurred recently that was "enough" to satisfy the technicalities. Exactly what I don't know, but I'm sure sooner or later it will be revealed.

73Aug 13, 2009 12:55:21 PM, ve...@sasktel.net wrote:
"After reviewing recently-received information regarding the 7O1YGFoperation, and after additional dialogue with a leader of theDXpedition,the DXCC desk has approved this operation."Nine years later and this Yemen operation just now gets approval?What's going on here? Can any body report on what the 'recently-received information' was thatchanged Bill's position on the 7O1YGF operation?Doug I'll run the race and I will never be the same again. -Original Message-From: kf...@njdxa.org [mailto:kf...@njdxa.org] On Behalf Of Jim ReisertAD1CSent: August 12, 2009 4:27 PMTo: dx-n...@njdxa.orgCc: DX4WIN Reflector; YCCC; mhdxa; PPDXG Reflector; GMCCSubject: [DX-NEWS] 7O1YGF Approved for DXCC CreditThe following news is from the ARRL DXCC Desk and is for real!Bernie, W3URThe following operation has been approved for DXCC:7O1YGF – YemenOperation from April 16, 2000 through April 26, 2000After reviewing recently-received information regarding the 7O1YGFoperation, and after additional dialogue with a leader of theDXpedition,the DXCC desk has approved this operation.Considering the length of time that has passed since this operation, weaskthat DXCC participants who would like to claim credit for 7O1YGF followtheoptions below:• Send the 7O1YGF card ONLY to DXCC with a SASE, or return postage ifoutside the US; DXCC will process the card and applicants will not becharged a submission fee. 7O1YGF cards included with other cards will behandled as part of a normal submission.• Bring the card to a DXCC Card Checker. The card checker will forwardtheconfirmation to the DXCC desk for processing. Again, there will be nosubmission fee if this is a single-card submission. You must fill out anapplication form, however.In all other cases applicants can include their QSL card with their nextsubmission, and it will be handled normally. We will work with the7O1YGFteam to use Logbook of the World if possible.Remember, the cutoff date for the 2009 DXCC Annual listing and HonorRolllist is December 31, 2009. We encourage applicants to handle this soonerrather than wait until the last minute.73 es DX!Bill Moore NC1LAwards BranchManager---To unsubscribe or subscribe to this list. Please send a message toimail...@njdxa.org In the message body put either unsubscribe dx-newsor subscribe dx-newsThis is the DX-NEWS reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org---

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