RE: [DX-CHAT] [DX-NEWS] [CQ-Contest] LotW Support by ARRL Officials Officers ...

2006-01-25 Thread Joe Subich, W4TV

Bud,

Maybe if they had used the system and experienced the frustrations
you complain about, they would have approved the resources necessary
to fix those problems!

99 and 44/100th percent of the complaints about LotW could be resolved
by fixing software problems, improving the end-user documentation,
increased marketing/awareness of LotW domestically and internationally
and providing better ways to handle DX sign-ups.

ARRL Officials  Officers should be supporting/promoting LotW as much
as they are out there talking about Spectrum Defense, the Big Idea,
and other programs.  To dis their own product does not set a very
good example.

73,

... Joe, W4TV


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 - Bud Hippisley
 Sent: Wednesday, January 25, 2006 11:21 AM
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 Officers ...


 Joe Subich, W4TV wrote:
  It is a sad commentary to see several well-known and active amateurs
  who can't even support Logbook of the World enough to upload their
  own logs.  Perhaps this indicates why LotW has still not
  received the resources necessary to properly promote it outside
  the US and integrate awards beyond DXCC (and now WAS in part) on
  a timely basis.  The following 26 ARRL officials are NOT using LOTW
  (Please remember them in your votes):
 

 Perhaps they have suffered the same frustrations trying to
 use it that some of us out here have O:-)

 Bud, W2RU
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RE: [DX-CHAT] [DX-NEWS] [CQ-Contest] LotW Support by ARRL Officials Officers ...

2006-01-25 Thread Jose M. Valdes R. YV5LIX
Hello Joe,

The big project is up and going I will let you know in few days the final
decision, but at this point it is a fact.

You have made a very interesting comment and I quote you  providing better
ways to handle DX sign-ups, you are absolutely right, last December, and to
satisfied the many petitions I have received to upload my logs to LOTW, I
decided to go ahead and try to register but after the initial steps I found
out that the process was not as simple as it should be, for starters it
requires DX stations to hard mal copies of some documents, wait for an
approval etc..., I contacted the ARRL and try to explain them that 100%
Internet registration  should be available for DX stations but their answer
that is not possible, so my decisions is that I will not register as a LOTW
user until registration is simplified and I can do it all via
Internet/email, the use of regular mail, as unsafe as it is out side the US
and some European countries, should be a secondary option for those without
access to internet services, and primary registration method should be
Internet/email, LOTW is not more important than my bank transactions and I
do them online, I paid my utility bills, loans, taxes...and much more via
Internet, I expect the same for my hobby, I expect ARRL to make LOTW
registration a less cumbersome process, to make it simple.

I know that the main concern is license forgery, but since what you will
sent to the ARRL is just a photocopy of it, how say you are not sending a
copy of a forged license? So why not jut accept and scanned image sent via
email? I feel more secure emailing a copy of my license than sending it via
regular postal services.

I have been in the computer business since 1976, 40 years, and I know that
the purpose of any system such as LOTW should be to make things easy for the
end users, not to make it so complicate that you simply drive potential
users from it.

73/DX Jose M. Valdes R. (Joe) YV5LIX
eQSL.cc Advisory Board Member
QSL manager EA7FTR
SYSOP YV5LIX DX Cluster
telnet://yv5lix.org.ve:7300
VHF Packed: 145.430 using C YV5LIX
http://www.yv5lix.org.ve
The site has an online log search.






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Joe Subich, W4TV
Sent: Wednesday, January 25, 2006 18:30
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Cc: dx-news@njdxa.org
Subject: RE: [DX-NEWS] [CQ-Contest] LotW Support by ARRL Officials 
Officers ...


Bud,

Maybe if they had used the system and experienced the frustrations you
complain about, they would have approved the resources necessary to fix
those problems!

99 and 44/100th percent of the complaints about LotW could be resolved by
fixing software problems, improving the end-user documentation, increased
marketing/awareness of LotW domestically and internationally and providing
better ways to handle DX sign-ups.

ARRL Officials  Officers should be supporting/promoting LotW as much as
they are out there talking about Spectrum Defense, the Big Idea,
and other programs.  To dis their own product does not set a very good
example.

73,

... Joe, W4TV


 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of W2RU
 - Bud Hippisley
 Sent: Wednesday, January 25, 2006 11:21 AM
 To: Joe Subich, W4TV; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Cc: dx-news@njdxa.org
 Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] LotW Support by ARRL Officials  Officers 
 ...


 Joe Subich, W4TV wrote:
  It is a sad commentary to see several well-known and active amateurs 
  who can't even support Logbook of the World enough to upload their 
  own logs.  Perhaps this indicates why LotW has still not received 
  the resources necessary to properly promote it outside the US and 
  integrate awards beyond DXCC (and now WAS in part) on a timely 
  basis.  The following 26 ARRL officials are NOT using LOTW (Please 
  remember them in your votes):
 

 Perhaps they have suffered the same frustrations trying to use it that 
 some of us out here have O:-)

 Bud, W2RU
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