Re: [Dx4win] Group question

2010-06-23 Thread N7KA


My error.  I wanted to post it to reflector so others could try it.. 



Will try the date range filter to and try to set groups.  I saw somewhere that 
you had to set a group prior to import. 



I just set the FILE|PREFERENCE QSO group to 0.  Saved change on EXIT.  Then 
clicked on QSO Real time in QSO window and group changed from 2 (what I had set 
as my default) to 0 (the changed I just made).  Changed group to 5 and clicked 
real time QSO and 5 displayed in QSO WINDOW group.  I do not have a group 5 
established in the QSO|FILTER|EDIT GROUPS window.  manual it will accept any 
number in the range 0-255. 



This is very easy to do.  Save the charge made on FILE|PREFERENCES|QSO click on 
QSO|Real Time in QSO WINDOW and you are good to go. 



Sending this to reflector also this time. 



Arne N7KA 









 Jim Reisert AD1C jjreis...@alum.mit.edu wrote: 
 Hi Arne, 
 Did you mean to post this to the reflector? It only went to me? 
 You can use F8 to make a date range filter (in your prefs, first set 
 date filter to Range), then use a multiple QSO operation to assign a 
 group number to those filtered QSOs. 
 73 - Jim AD1C
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Re: [Dx4win] Group question

2010-06-23 Thread John Shaw
Using version 8.04.

When I set the group to 0 in the preferences and then go to real time
entry the group is 0 so I cant reproduce your result for that one.

If I set the group in preferences to a group not previously set up and go to
real time entry it does come up as the group set and will log it as such.

As a consequence after that if I go to Filter|Edit Group Names the new
group generated this way does not show up in the list  and am not being able
to use Filter|Select to find that QSO, it can be searched for by using F8.
Since F8 search can be used it can be set to another group using
QSO|Multiple QSO Operations.

So other than being able to do something in an illogical fashion it would
seem to be function ok.  If I want to have a new group of QSO's I have
always generated the new group by using the Filter|Edit Group Names function
before logging or importing a QSO to that group in my log.

As a aside note I don't log any QSO's to group 0, start from group 1 then
you will be able to do a group filter search for any and or all QSO's in the
log. 0 is a group of everything, including itself, a group of all groups
if you like.

73 John ZL1BYZ.

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To: Jim Reisert AD1C; DX4WIN
Subject: Re: [Dx4win] Group question



My error.  I wanted to post it to reflector so others could try it.. 



Will try the date range filter to and try to set groups.  I saw somewhere
that you had to set a group prior to import. 



I just set the FILE|PREFERENCE QSO group to 0.  Saved change on EXIT.  Then
clicked on QSO Real time in QSO window and group changed from 2 (what I had
set as my default) to 0 (the changed I just made).  Changed group to 5 and
clicked real time QSO and 5 displayed in QSO WINDOW group.  I do not have a
group 5 established in the QSO|FILTER|EDIT GROUPS window.  manual it will
accept any number in the range 0-255. 



This is very easy to do.  Save the charge made on FILE|PREFERENCES|QSO click
on QSO|Real Time in QSO WINDOW and you are good to go. 



Sending this to reflector also this time. 



Arne N7KA 









 Jim Reisert AD1C jjreis...@alum.mit.edu wrote: 
 Hi Arne,
 Did you mean to post this to the reflector? It only went to me? 
 You can use F8 to make a date range filter (in your prefs, first set 
 date filter to Range), then use a multiple QSO operation to assign a 
 group number to those filtered QSOs.
 73 - Jim AD1C
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Re: [Dx4win] Group question

2010-06-23 Thread N7KA


John 



I have GROUPS 0, 1, 2, and 3defined. 



If I search for any of the 4 groups by group number I get only those QSOs for 
that group.  When I total the number of QSOs I selected in FILTER (group)  of 
the 4 groups I get the total number of QSOs in my log. That tells me the filter 
function by groups is working properly. 



Not sure what you mean by illogical fashion.  I defined my needs for groups and 
the log does sort (filter)  by those needs, in  otherwords, my groups. 



I have my entire log for N7KA going back to June 1978 is entered into DX4WIN.  
Group 0 identiined as all QSOs prior to 01 JAN1983 (the date that VUCC 
started).  I lived in Tucson, AZ in 01 JAN 1983 so have defined Group 1 by the 
6 digit grid square I was living and operating from.  Group 2 is defined by my 
current 6 digit grid square beginning 24 FEB, 1985.  Group 3 is defined as the 
grid square I operated portable on 6M Sunday 20 June 2010.  They all sort 
properly when I select FILTER and enter the group number. 



At start-up my correct group 2 is displayed in the QSO WINDOW GROUP box.  (that 
is what I have set as default)  If I change and SAVE the group number in the 
FILE|PREFERENCES|QSO group box, this becomes the group number displayed in the 
QSO WINDOW upon starting the program.  You MUST do QSO|Real-time after the 
program is booted to set the program to begin logging for the day, otherwise 
you get data from the last QSO entered in your log.  BTW all 4 of my groups do 
come up at start if I have defined a group as the default. 



l also keep my group number and description written on paper and  stored in my 
manual as backup; group number description, date range, and any other info I 
determine is relevant. 



73 de Arne N7KA 




- John Shaw jns...@internet.co.nz wrote: 
 Using version 8.04. 
 When I set the group to 0 in the preferences and then go to real time 
 entry the group is 0 so I cant reproduce your result for that one. 
 If I set the group in preferences to a group not previously set up and go to 
 real time entry it does come up as the group set and will log it as such. 
 As a consequence after that if I go to Filter|Edit Group Names the new 
 group generated this way does not show up in the list  and am not being able 
 to use Filter|Select to find that QSO, it can be searched for by using F8. 
 Since F8 search can be used it can be set to another group using 
 QSO|Multiple QSO Operations. 
 So other than being able to do something in an illogical fashion it would 
 seem to be function ok.  If I want to have a new group of QSO's I have 
 always generated the new group by using the Filter|Edit Group Names function 
 before logging or importing a QSO to that group in my log. 
 As a aside note I don't log any QSO's to group 0, start from group 1 then 
 you will be able to do a group filter search for any and or all QSO's in the 
 log. 0 is a group of everything, including itself, a group of all groups 
 if you like. 
 73 John ZL1BYZ.
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Re: [Dx4win] Group question

2010-06-23 Thread Bud Semon N7CW
John,

If you want the group you added (by changing the group number in Preferences) 
to show up in Edit Group Names, you must add it, by doing Filter, Group Names, 
Add.  You can change the name at this point also, but note that after you 
change the name, you must click on Change.  Once you have done that, you can 
add that group to a Selection by going to the selection you want to add it to, 
finding the new group number, double-clicking on the new group number (this 
will add an x to the left of the group number) and then clicking Update.

In my opinion, the use of Selections, in addition to the group numbering, is an 
extremely powerful tool within DX4Win, allowing you to separate QSOs from 
various locations easily.  Personally, I think Arne's log groupings would be 
accomplished much better by using Selections - this would allow further 
separation (e.g. for contests) within each Selection.  But it is all personal 
preference...

73, Bud  N7CW

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Subject: Re: [Dx4win] Group question



John 



I have GROUPS 0, 1, 2, and 3defined. 



If I search for any of the 4 groups by group number I get only those QSOs for 
that group.  When I total the number of QSOs I selected in FILTER (group)  of 
the 4 groups I get the total number of QSOs in my log. That tells me the filter 
function by groups is working properly. 



Not sure what you mean by illogical fashion.  I defined my needs for groups and 
the log does sort (filter)  by those needs, in  otherwords, my groups. 



I have my entire log for N7KA going back to June 1978 is entered into DX4WIN.  
Group 0 identiined as all QSOs prior to 01 JAN1983 (the date that VUCC 
started).  I lived in Tucson, AZ in 01 JAN 1983 so have defined Group 1 by the 
6 digit grid square I was living and operating from.  Group 2 is defined by my 
current 6 digit grid square beginning 24 FEB, 1985.  Group 3 is defined as the 
grid square I operated portable on 6M Sunday 20 June 2010.  They all sort 
properly when I select FILTER and enter the group number. 



At start-up my correct group 2 is displayed in the QSO WINDOW GROUP box.  (that 
is what I have set as default)  If I change and SAVE the group number in the 
FILE|PREFERENCES|QSO group box, this becomes the group number displayed in the 
QSO WINDOW upon starting the program.  You MUST do QSO|Real-time after the 
program is booted to set the program to begin logging for the day, otherwise 
you get data from the last QSO entered in your log.  BTW all 4 of my groups do 
come up at start if I have defined a group as the default. 



l also keep my group number and description written on paper and  stored in my 
manual as backup; group number description, date range, and any other info I 
determine is relevant. 



73 de Arne N7KA 




- John Shaw jns...@internet.co.nz wrote: 
 Using version 8.04. 
 When I set the group to 0 in the preferences and then go to real time 
 entry the group is 0 so I cant reproduce your result for that one. 
 If I set the group in preferences to a group not previously set up and go to 
 real time entry it does come up as the group set and will log it as such. 
 As a consequence after that if I go to Filter|Edit Group Names the new 
 group generated this way does not show up in the list  and am not being able 
 to use Filter|Select to find that QSO, it can be searched for by using F8. 
 Since F8 search can be used it can be set to another group using 
 QSO|Multiple QSO Operations. 
 So other than being able to do something in an illogical fashion it would 
 seem to be function ok.  If I want to have a new group of QSO's I have 
 always generated the new group by using the Filter|Edit Group Names function 
 before logging or importing a QSO to that group in my log. 
 As a aside note I don't log any QSO's to group 0, start from group 1 then 
 you will be able to do a group filter search for any and or all QSO's in the 
 log. 0 is a group of everything, including itself, a group of all groups 
 if you like. 
 73 John ZL1BYZ.
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Re: [Dx4win] Group question

2010-06-23 Thread John Shaw
Well Arne, I don't understand what your problem is.  I was only responding
to your question.  I'm not having a problem, I think DX4WIN works
wonderfully.
 
73 John ZL1BYZ.

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Sent: Thursday, 24 June 2010 10:17
To: John Shaw
Cc: dx4win@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Dx4win] Group question



John

 

I have GROUPS 0, 1, 2, and 3defined.

 

If I search for any of the 4 groups by group number I get only those QSOs
for that group.  When I total the number of QSOs I selected in FILTER
(group)  of the 4 groups I get the total number of QSOs in my log. That
tells me the filter function by groups is working properly.

 

Not sure what you mean by illogical fashion.  I defined my needs for groups
and the log does sort (filter) by those needs, in  otherwords, my
groups.

 

I have my entire log for N7KA going back to June 1978 is entered into
DX4WIN.  Group 0 identiined as all QSOs prior to 01 JAN1983 (the date that
VUCC started).  I lived in Tucson, AZ in 01 JAN 1983 so have defined Group 1
by the 6 digit grid square I was living and operating from.  Group 2 is
defined by my current 6 digit grid square beginning 24 FEB, 1985.  Group 3
is defined as the grid square I operated portable on 6M Sunday 20 June 2010.
They all sort properly when I select FILTER and enter the group number.

 

At start-up my correct group 2 is displayed in the QSO WINDOW GROUP box.
(that is what I have set as default)  If I change and SAVE the group number
in the FILE|PREFERENCES|QSO group box, this becomes the group number
displayed in the QSO WINDOW upon starting the program.  You MUST do
QSO|Real-time after the program is booted to set the program to begin
logging for the day, otherwise you get data from the last QSO entered in
your log.  BTW all 4 of my groups do come up at start if I have defined a
group as the default.

 

l also keep my group number and description written on paper and stored in
my manual as backup; group number description, date range, and any other
info I determine is relevant.

 

73 de Arne N7KA

 


- John Shaw jns...@internet.co.nz wrote: 
 Using version 8.04.
 When I set the group to 0 in the preferences and then go to real time
 entry the group is 0 so I cant reproduce your result for that one.
 If I set the group in preferences to a group not previously set up and go
to
 real time entry it does come up as the group set and will log it as such.
 As a consequence after that if I go to Filter|Edit Group Names the new
 group generated this way does not show up in the list  and am not being
able
 to use Filter|Select to find that QSO, it can be searched for by using F8.
 Since F8 search can be used it can be set to another group using
 QSO|Multiple QSO Operations.
 So other than being able to do something in an illogical fashion it would
 seem to be function ok.  If I want to have a new group of QSO's I have
 always generated the new group by using the Filter|Edit Group Names
function
 before logging or importing a QSO to that group in my log.
 As a aside note I don't log any QSO's to group 0, start from group 1
then
 you will be able to do a group filter search for any and or all QSO's in
the
 log. 0 is a group of everything, including itself, a group of all groups
 if you like.
 73 John ZL1BYZ.

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[Dx4win] Group question

2010-06-22 Thread Dave Perry N4QS
Is there a way for my default group to be automatically opened when I open the 
log?  I would like group 000 to be the default group.  Right now, I open the 
log and the selection is automatically set for all QSOs.  I have to go into the 
Filter tab and select group 000 every time.  I am using version 8.02.

Thanks,

Dave Perry, N4QS
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Re: [Dx4win] Group question

2010-06-22 Thread Jim Reisert AD1C
Group 0 *is* the selection for all QSOs.  DX4WIN always clears group 
selections when it starts, so it always starts with Group 0.

You should use group numbers starting with 1 for custom groups.

73 - Jim AD1C

On 6/22/2010 5:23 PM, Dave Perry N4QS wrote:

 Is there a way for my default group to be automatically opened when I open 
 the log?  I would like group 000 to be the default group.  Right now, I open 
 the log and the selection is automatically set for all QSOs.  I have to go 
 into the Filter tab and select group 000 every time.  I am using version 8.02.


-- 
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