Re: [Dx4win] Ideas for development
This is my last post and I will move on. Yes, I know about the "Imported QSO is ignored" feature when importing and I use it all the time. But even when you select that (it's the default), you can still have situations in which duplicates are imported. The point is there are all sorts of ways to get duplicates into the log and you have no way to identify them. I was just trying to agree with Paul that it would be a nice feature to have a function or utility within DX4WIN that would help us identify potential dupes. 73, Dave, N4QS -Original Message- From: dx4win-boun...@mailman.qth.net On Behalf Of David Kozinn, K2DBK Sent: Wednesday, November 27, 2019 2:16 PM To: 'Paul GRANGER' ; 'Dan Violette' ; 'REFLECTOR dx4win' Subject: Re: [Dx4win] Ideas for development I'm trying to understand the issue. Let's say I work you at some point on 20M CW, then I work you again in a contest again on 20M CW. I import the ADIF file, are you saying that you should get a warning that I've worked you before? I don't understand why that would be a problem. Like many of us, this happens all the time. If you're talking about preventing a truly duplicate QSO from being imported (same band, mode, and time), that's what the "Imported QSO is ignored" setting is for on the Options for duplicate QSOs dialog when importing. I use this all the time because for FT-8, I just feed it my whole log every time I import and it ignores the duplicate. -Original Message- From: dx4win-boun...@mailman.qth.net On Behalf Of Paul GRANGER Sent: Wednesday, November 27, 2019 2:13 PM To: Dan Violette ; 'REFLECTOR dx4win' Subject: Re: [Dx4win] Ideas for development Hi Dan Re garding dupes, I do not mean during a contest (every contest program will do that) but for the general log. Example I have run a specific contest program, and have exported to an adif file. I need to import this file into DX4Win. This is where each imported QSO should be compared to the global log and show someting when itis a dupe (same band and same mode) 73 Paul F6EXV Le 27/11/2019 à 20:01, Dan Violette a écrit : > #1 - For a specific time period (like a contest), turn on contest mode (QSO - > Contest Mode). Make sure to check off contest mode. I think it now resets > when you exit when it used to stay on until you unchecked. It will then let > you know of dupes and give a serial number. Works nice for casual contest > efforts. > > #2 and #3 have been talked about here but I would not expect to see and have > not seen a possibility list of future updates. > > Dan KI6X > > -Original Message- > From: dx4win-boun...@mailman.qth.net > On Behalf Of Paul GRANGER > Sent: Wednesday, November 27, 2019 8:49 AM > To: REFLECTOR dx4win > Subject: Re: [Dx4win] Ideas for development > > I did not see much reaction to this... > > Le 25/11/2019 à 10:06, F6EXV a écrit : >> Hi all >> Ideas for development : >> 1/ Be "warned" when a QSO is a dupe >> For example, when we import a contest log, we work the same stations >> over and over again. It wouod be nice to get a warning, or a message >> being copied automatically into the "Notes for this QSO" for example, >> that this is a dupe. >> This dupe info should also be notified for a standard QSO, being >> input the normal way. >> >> 2/ Link the FT8 programs, so a QSO entered there is automatically >> transfered to DX4Win, without going through the import procedure. >> >> 3/ Allow automatic upload to Clublog, which MANY of us are using. >> >> If many users support these developments, maybe they will be taken >> care of... >> Thanks >> Paul F6EXV > __ > DX4WIN mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/dx4win > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:DX4WIN@mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email > list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > > . > __ DX4WIN mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/dx4win Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:DX4WIN@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ DX4WIN mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/dx4win Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:DX4WIN@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ DX4WIN mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/dx4win Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:DX4WIN@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Dx4win] Ideas for development
I'm trying to understand the issue. Let's say I work you at some point on 20M CW, then I work you again in a contest again on 20M CW. I import the ADIF file, are you saying that you should get a warning that I've worked you before? I don't understand why that would be a problem. Like many of us, this happens all the time. If you're talking about preventing a truly duplicate QSO from being imported (same band, mode, and time), that's what the "Imported QSO is ignored" setting is for on the Options for duplicate QSOs dialog when importing. I use this all the time because for FT-8, I just feed it my whole log every time I import and it ignores the duplicate. -Original Message- From: dx4win-boun...@mailman.qth.net On Behalf Of Paul GRANGER Sent: Wednesday, November 27, 2019 2:13 PM To: Dan Violette ; 'REFLECTOR dx4win' Subject: Re: [Dx4win] Ideas for development Hi Dan Re garding dupes, I do not mean during a contest (every contest program will do that) but for the general log. Example I have run a specific contest program, and have exported to an adif file. I need to import this file into DX4Win. This is where each imported QSO should be compared to the global log and show someting when itis a dupe (same band and same mode) 73 Paul F6EXV Le 27/11/2019 à 20:01, Dan Violette a écrit : > #1 - For a specific time period (like a contest), turn on contest mode (QSO - > Contest Mode). Make sure to check off contest mode. I think it now resets > when you exit when it used to stay on until you unchecked. It will then let > you know of dupes and give a serial number. Works nice for casual contest > efforts. > > #2 and #3 have been talked about here but I would not expect to see and have > not seen a possibility list of future updates. > > Dan KI6X > > -Original Message- > From: dx4win-boun...@mailman.qth.net > On Behalf Of Paul GRANGER > Sent: Wednesday, November 27, 2019 8:49 AM > To: REFLECTOR dx4win > Subject: Re: [Dx4win] Ideas for development > > I did not see much reaction to this... > > Le 25/11/2019 à 10:06, F6EXV a écrit : >> Hi all >> Ideas for development : >> 1/ Be "warned" when a QSO is a dupe >> For example, when we import a contest log, we work the same stations >> over and over again. It wouod be nice to get a warning, or a message >> being copied automatically into the "Notes for this QSO" for example, >> that this is a dupe. >> This dupe info should also be notified for a standard QSO, being >> input the normal way. >> >> 2/ Link the FT8 programs, so a QSO entered there is automatically >> transfered to DX4Win, without going through the import procedure. >> >> 3/ Allow automatic upload to Clublog, which MANY of us are using. >> >> If many users support these developments, maybe they will be taken >> care of... >> Thanks >> Paul F6EXV > __ > DX4WIN mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/dx4win > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:DX4WIN@mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email > list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > > . > __ DX4WIN mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/dx4win Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:DX4WIN@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ DX4WIN mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/dx4win Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:DX4WIN@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Dx4win] Ideas for development
Paul, I agree and dupes can appear in the log for many reasons. Here are a couple: 1. When an FT8 QSO does not complete the first time, you often need to send the 73 message a second or third time and this can cause the QSO to be logged two or three times if you are not paying attention. Currently, I try to use ADIF Master to go into the wsjt-x log to find and delete the dupes. But I sometimes miss a dupe and it ends up in DX4WIN and often gets uploaded to LOTW as well. 2. For those of us who attempt to use other logging programs that interface directly with WSJT-X such as Log4om and DXLabs. If I have already imported FT8 QSOs using the wsjt-x log and then attempt to do so from the other logging program at a later date, dupes are often created due to the QSO time differences between wsjt-x and the other logging program. I know that you can set the Time window to match QSO in secs (other logs) when importing (See preferences, import tab), but this can still get tricky if the other log program tracks both beginning and ending time for the QSO. It would be nice if we could run a utility in DX4WIN to identify and eliminate dupes. With 170,000 QSOs in my log, it is difficult to track them down on my own. You idea is a good one. I also like suggestions #2 and #3. Great ideas that would be used extensively by me if available. 73, Dave, N4QS -Original Message- From: dx4win-boun...@mailman.qth.net On Behalf Of Paul GRANGER Sent: Wednesday, November 27, 2019 1:13 PM To: Dan Violette ; 'REFLECTOR dx4win' Subject: Re: [Dx4win] Ideas for development Hi Dan Re garding dupes, I do not mean during a contest (every contest program will do that) but for the general log. Example I have run a specific contest program, and have exported to an adif file. I need to import this file into DX4Win. This is where each imported QSO should be compared to the global log and show someting when itis a dupe (same band and same mode) 73 Paul F6EXV Le 27/11/2019 à 20:01, Dan Violette a écrit : > #1 - For a specific time period (like a contest), turn on contest mode (QSO - > Contest Mode). Make sure to check off contest mode. I think it now resets > when you exit when it used to stay on until you unchecked. It will then let > you know of dupes and give a serial number. Works nice for casual contest > efforts. > > #2 and #3 have been talked about here but I would not expect to see and have > not seen a possibility list of future updates. > > Dan KI6X > > -Original Message- > From: dx4win-boun...@mailman.qth.net > On Behalf Of Paul GRANGER > Sent: Wednesday, November 27, 2019 8:49 AM > To: REFLECTOR dx4win > Subject: Re: [Dx4win] Ideas for development > > I did not see much reaction to this... > > Le 25/11/2019 à 10:06, F6EXV a écrit : >> Hi all >> Ideas for development : >> 1/ Be "warned" when a QSO is a dupe >> For example, when we import a contest log, we work the same stations >> over and over again. It wouod be nice to get a warning, or a message >> being copied automatically into the "Notes for this QSO" for example, >> that this is a dupe. >> This dupe info should also be notified for a standard QSO, being >> input the normal way. >> >> 2/ Link the FT8 programs, so a QSO entered there is automatically >> transfered to DX4Win, without going through the import procedure. >> >> 3/ Allow automatic upload to Clublog, which MANY of us are using. >> >> If many users support these developments, maybe they will be taken >> care of... >> Thanks >> Paul F6EXV > __ > DX4WIN mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/dx4win > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:DX4WIN@mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email > list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > > . > __ DX4WIN mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/dx4win Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:DX4WIN@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ DX4WIN mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/dx4win Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:DX4WIN@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Dx4win] Ideas for development
Hi Dan Re garding dupes, I do not mean during a contest (every contest program will do that) but for the general log. Example I have run a specific contest program, and have exported to an adif file. I need to import this file into DX4Win. This is where each imported QSO should be compared to the global log and show someting when itis a dupe (same band and same mode) 73 Paul F6EXV Le 27/11/2019 à 20:01, Dan Violette a écrit : > #1 - For a specific time period (like a contest), turn on contest mode (QSO - > Contest Mode). Make sure to check off contest mode. I think it now resets > when you exit when it used to stay on until you unchecked. It will then let > you know of dupes and give a serial number. Works nice for casual contest > efforts. > > #2 and #3 have been talked about here but I would not expect to see and have > not seen a possibility list of future updates. > > Dan KI6X > > -Original Message- > From: dx4win-boun...@mailman.qth.net On > Behalf Of Paul GRANGER > Sent: Wednesday, November 27, 2019 8:49 AM > To: REFLECTOR dx4win > Subject: Re: [Dx4win] Ideas for development > > I did not see much reaction to this... > > Le 25/11/2019 à 10:06, F6EXV a écrit : >> Hi all >> Ideas for development : >> 1/ Be "warned" when a QSO is a dupe >> For example, when we import a contest log, we work the same stations >> over and over again. It wouod be nice to get a warning, or a message >> being copied automatically into the "Notes for this QSO" for example, >> that this is a dupe. >> This dupe info should also be notified for a standard QSO, being input >> the normal way. >> >> 2/ Link the FT8 programs, so a QSO entered there is automatically >> transfered to DX4Win, without going through the import procedure. >> >> 3/ Allow automatic upload to Clublog, which MANY of us are using. >> >> If many users support these developments, maybe they will be taken >> care of... >> Thanks >> Paul F6EXV > __ > DX4WIN mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/dx4win > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:DX4WIN@mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > > . > __ DX4WIN mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/dx4win Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:DX4WIN@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Dx4win] Ideas for development
I like all three of your suggestions. I know that I would use them frequently. 73, Dave, N4QS -Original Message- From: dx4win-boun...@mailman.qth.net On Behalf Of Paul GRANGER Sent: Wednesday, November 27, 2019 10:49 AM To: REFLECTOR dx4win Subject: Re: [Dx4win] Ideas for development I did not see much reaction to this... Le 25/11/2019 à 10:06, F6EXV a écrit : > Hi all > Ideas for development : > 1/ Be "warned" when a QSO is a dupe > For example, when we import a contest log, we work the same stations > over and over again. It wouod be nice to get a warning, or a message > being copied automatically into the "Notes for this QSO" for example, > that this is a dupe. > This dupe info should also be notified for a standard QSO, being input > the normal way. > > 2/ Link the FT8 programs, so a QSO entered there is automatically > transfered to DX4Win, without going through the import procedure. > > 3/ Allow automatic upload to Clublog, which MANY of us are using. > > If many users support these developments, maybe they will be taken > care of... > Thanks > Paul F6EXV __ DX4WIN mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/dx4win Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:DX4WIN@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ DX4WIN mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/dx4win Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:DX4WIN@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Dx4win] Ideas for development
#1 - For a specific time period (like a contest), turn on contest mode (QSO - Contest Mode). Make sure to check off contest mode. I think it now resets when you exit when it used to stay on until you unchecked. It will then let you know of dupes and give a serial number. Works nice for casual contest efforts. #2 and #3 have been talked about here but I would not expect to see and have not seen a possibility list of future updates. Dan KI6X -Original Message- From: dx4win-boun...@mailman.qth.net On Behalf Of Paul GRANGER Sent: Wednesday, November 27, 2019 8:49 AM To: REFLECTOR dx4win Subject: Re: [Dx4win] Ideas for development I did not see much reaction to this... Le 25/11/2019 à 10:06, F6EXV a écrit : > Hi all > Ideas for development : > 1/ Be "warned" when a QSO is a dupe > For example, when we import a contest log, we work the same stations > over and over again. It wouod be nice to get a warning, or a message > being copied automatically into the "Notes for this QSO" for example, > that this is a dupe. > This dupe info should also be notified for a standard QSO, being input > the normal way. > > 2/ Link the FT8 programs, so a QSO entered there is automatically > transfered to DX4Win, without going through the import procedure. > > 3/ Allow automatic upload to Clublog, which MANY of us are using. > > If many users support these developments, maybe they will be taken > care of... > Thanks > Paul F6EXV __ DX4WIN mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/dx4win Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:DX4WIN@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ DX4WIN mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/dx4win Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:DX4WIN@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Dx4win] Ideas for development
#3 would be nice (automatic upload to Clublog)but I'm just happy with whatever features they do. The other two items are of no interest to me, thus I didn't comment on it.. K4TK Tim Moore PMP On Wed, Nov 27, 2019 at 10:49 AM Paul GRANGER wrote: > I did not see much reaction to this... > > Le 25/11/2019 à 10:06, F6EXV a écrit : > > Hi all > > Ideas for development : > > 1/ Be "warned" when a QSO is a dupe > > For example, when we import a contest log, we work the same stations > > over and over again. It wouod be nice to get a warning, or a message > > being copied automatically into the "Notes for this QSO" for example, > > that this is a dupe. > > This dupe info should also be notified for a standard QSO, being input > > the normal way. > > > > 2/ Link the FT8 programs, so a QSO entered there is automatically > > transfered to DX4Win, without going through the import procedure. > > > > 3/ Allow automatic upload to Clublog, which MANY of us are using. > > > > If many users support these developments, maybe they will be taken > > care of... > > Thanks > > Paul F6EXV > > __ > DX4WIN mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/dx4win > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:DX4WIN@mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ DX4WIN mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/dx4win Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:DX4WIN@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Dx4win] Ideas for development
I did not see much reaction to this... Le 25/11/2019 à 10:06, F6EXV a écrit : > Hi all > Ideas for development : > 1/ Be "warned" when a QSO is a dupe > For example, when we import a contest log, we work the same stations > over and over again. It wouod be nice to get a warning, or a message > being copied automatically into the "Notes for this QSO" for example, > that this is a dupe. > This dupe info should also be notified for a standard QSO, being input > the normal way. > > 2/ Link the FT8 programs, so a QSO entered there is automatically > transfered to DX4Win, without going through the import procedure. > > 3/ Allow automatic upload to Clublog, which MANY of us are using. > > If many users support these developments, maybe they will be taken > care of... > Thanks > Paul F6EXV __ DX4WIN mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/dx4win Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:DX4WIN@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Dx4win] Ideas for development
I disagree with respect to Clublog. It's been around long enough and is increasing in popularity. It has a real API interface to do uploads/downloads, and from what I've seen it seems likely that Michael, G7VJR, is very aware that changing the API without warning would break a lot of things and will make sure that doesn't happen. The same argument could be made for the existing support for LoTW and eQSL, and admittedly without any hard data, I'd bet that Clublog is used at least as much as eQSL, if not more. -Original Message- From: dx4win-boun...@mailman.qth.net On Behalf Of WA7AA Sent: Monday, November 25, 2019 9:21 AM To: dx4win@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Dx4win] Ideas for development On 25-Nov-19 01:06, Paul GRANGER wrote: > This dupe info should also be notified for a standard QSO, being input > the normal way. There's already an option for this and it is done by enabling the Contest Mode. The problem is that this mode gets reset every time DX4Win is restarted. I keep asking for an option to remember being enabled on restart or by running a command key, but... > 3/ Allow automatic upload to Clublog, which MANY of us are using. Not realistic, since not only do sites like this come and go, but any change in the site's upload procedure would require a change in the DX4Win programming, and with the plethora of log upload sites (LOTW, eQSL, QRZ, CLubLog, etc) this would be a logistical nightmare. The above are personal opinions, not an official DX4Win positions, of course. 73, Zoran WA7AA __ DX4WIN mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/dx4win Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:DX4WIN@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ DX4WIN mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/dx4win Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:DX4WIN@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Dx4win] Ideas for development
On 25-Nov-19 01:06, Paul GRANGER wrote: This dupe info should also be notified for a standard QSO, being input the normal way. There's already an option for this and it is done by enabling the Contest Mode. The problem is that this mode gets reset every time DX4Win is restarted. I keep asking for an option to remember being enabled on restart or by running a command key, but... 3/ Allow automatic upload to Clublog, which MANY of us are using. Not realistic, since not only do sites like this come and go, but any change in the site's upload procedure would require a change in the DX4Win programming, and with the plethora of log upload sites (LOTW, eQSL, QRZ, CLubLog, etc) this would be a logistical nightmare. The above are personal opinions, not an official DX4Win positions, of course. 73, Zoran WA7AA __ DX4WIN mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/dx4win Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:DX4WIN@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
[Dx4win] Ideas for development
Hi all Ideas for development : 1/ Be "warned" when a QSO is a dupe For example, when we import a contest log, we work the same stations over and over again. It wouod be nice to get a warning, or a message being copied automatically into the "Notes for this QSO" for example, that this is a dupe. This dupe info should also be notified for a standard QSO, being input the normal way. 2/ Link the FT8 programs, so a QSO entered there is automatically transfered to DX4Win, without going through the import procedure. 3/ Allow automatic upload to Clublog, which MANY of us are using. If many users support these developments, maybe they will be taken care of... Thanks Paul F6EXV __ DX4WIN mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/dx4win Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:DX4WIN@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
