Re: [Dx4win] SO2R Question
I left all the previous messages in place I know, that is bad form. I am using DX4WIN and the DxDoubler. My preference is to have Radio 2 on my right hand. That is a little backward for DxD and DX4WIN. I simply load the logging program [in my case TR4W] and then when it is up the first thing I do is type CTRL-R to switch to Radio 2. I do the very same thing when I start up DX4WIN. In DX4WIN I select radio 2. I have the correct Radio data set in each program [ it is identical with respect to the COM port settings ] My jumpers are as they came from the factory set for CT, TRLOG, etc. I have no clue as to what this might do to N1MM. But I have a hunch that N1MM evolved from CT and probably it will work just fine. I would try the factory settings and ask questions on the N1MM reflector before I changed anything. Pete if you read this I am not sure that a USB Transceiver chip will do the trick for the DXD folks. I am pretty sure that the BCD data on the LPT lines will reflect the currently selected radio so Dave will probably have no problems. I invested in the Top Ten Band Decoders so that function is not one I am using out of the DXD. In fact, I have ICOM Top Ten Band Decoders as a result of a lucky ³buy² from someone leaving SO2R and maybe even radio. I have no ICOM radios here in ID [yet] . I would be happy to consider a swap if someone needed them and had ones with the non-ICOM version. Tod, K0TO On 2/28/14, 4:27 AM, Pete Smith N4ZR n...@contesting.com wrote: Randy's right about the USB-to-LPT converters. Fortunately, real LPT portcards are still available for the PCI-E slot in newer PCs, and are dirt cheap. While you're at it, you could get one with an LPT and 2 COM ports, simplify your cabling, and avoid the cost of the USB-to-serial converters you'd otherwise need. Hopefully, the next generation of radios will include a $2 USB transceiver chip. 73, Pete N4ZR Check out the Reverse Beacon Network at http://reversebeacon.net, blog at reversebeacon.blogspot.com. For spots, please go to your favorite ARC V6 or VE7CC DX cluster node. On 2/27/2014 9:48 PM, Randy Farmer wrote: I used a DX Doubler with DX4WIN for several years and it worked fine. You MUST have a real LPT port to drive it; a USB to LPT converter won't do the job. In version 8.x, the logic state for control for the radio switching LPT pin can be controlled. Make sure you're in Expert mode and open up the Preferences. On the CW tab just tick the Radio 1/2 signal Reverse box at the top of the window. I'm not sure if the LPT port band BCD code follows the radio selection. Good luck. 73... Randy, W8FN On 2/27/2014 2:44 PM, Dave Perry wrote: Paul or anyone on the reflector: I just purchased a second K3 and have it working nicely as the second rig within DX4WIN. I like the toggle feature that allows me to shift back and forth between the two radios. I am thinking about purchasing the DXDoubler SO2R product from Top Ten Devices as well as their new band decoder. I would like to use one band decoder with both rigs since I have one feed line running out to a remote antenna switch. Here are my questions: 1. If I select Top Ten as the band decoder within the Control tab under preferences and use LPT1 to connect the pc to the band decoder, will DX4WIN send BCD data for both radios to the band decoder - depending on which one I have toggled as the active radio (using Ctrl, Shift, F12)? For example, if radio 1 is on 20M and radio 2 is on 40M will DX4WIN send the required BCD data depending on which one is toggled in DX4WIN? The documentation indicated that BCD data would be sent for radio 1 but did not appear to mention if this would also happen if a second radio was also connected like I have it now. I would hope that BCD data is sent anytime I toggle between the two radios. 2. My second question is about the DXDoubler and how it works with DX4WIN. Dave at Top Ten said that DX4WIN reverses the selected radio. I assume that what he means is that if I select Radio 1 in DX4WIN the DXDoubler device will select Radio 2. Is this a know issue with DX4WIN and could this be fixed in a future update? That is why I am checking. Here is a quote from the Top Ten Devices website: DX4WIN, like many other logging programs (eg. CT, NA, TR, WriteLog), toggles Pin 14 on the selected LPT port when the operator changes radios. The defacto standard is that Pin 14 is high when Radio 1 is selected. However, DX4WIN drives Pin 14 high when Radio 2 is selected. Although there are ways to reverse cables and the like, so that switching works properly, the LEDs on the DXD will always be reversed. The purpose of this modification is to rearrange the internal logic in the DXD, so that everything functions properly, and the LEDs truly reflect the selected radio. I will also be using the DXD with N1MM, so I would want both logging programs to handle the radios the same way.
Re: [Dx4win] SO2R Question
Tod, you're right - I misspoke. The PIEXX unit takes OTRSP serial port commands via a USB vritual port and converts them to the appropriate LPT commands, rather than actually functioning as a USB to LPT converter. You might want to talk to W4NZ about this - he beta tested the PIEXX unit with a DXD, and knows how to make the DXD do lots of tricks. 73, Pete N4ZR Check out the Reverse Beacon Network at http://reversebeacon.net, blog at reversebeacon.blogspot.com. For spots, please go to your favorite ARC V6 or VE7CC DX cluster node. On 3/1/2014 4:54 PM, Tod Olson wrote: Pete if you read this I am not sure that a USB Transceiver chip will do the trick for the DXD folks. I am pretty sure that the BCD data on the LPT lines will reflect the currently selected radio so Dave will probably have no problems. I invested in the Top Ten Band Decoders so that function is not one I am using out of the DXD. In fact, I have ICOM Top Ten Band Decoders as a result of a lucky ³buy² from someone leaving SO2R and maybe even radio. I have no ICOM radios here in ID [yet] . I would be happy to consider a swap if someone needed them and had ones with the non-ICOM version. __ DX4WIN mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/dx4win Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:DX4WIN@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Dx4win] SO2R Question
Randy's right about the USB-to-LPT converters. Fortunately, real LPT portcards are still available for the PCI-E slot in newer PCs, and are dirt cheap. While you're at it, you could get one with an LPT and 2 COM ports, simplify your cabling, and avoid the cost of the USB-to-serial converters you'd otherwise need. Hopefully, the next generation of radios will include a $2 USB transceiver chip. 73, Pete N4ZR Check out the Reverse Beacon Network at http://reversebeacon.net, blog at reversebeacon.blogspot.com. For spots, please go to your favorite ARC V6 or VE7CC DX cluster node. On 2/27/2014 9:48 PM, Randy Farmer wrote: I used a DX Doubler with DX4WIN for several years and it worked fine. You MUST have a real LPT port to drive it; a USB to LPT converter won't do the job. In version 8.x, the logic state for control for the radio switching LPT pin can be controlled. Make sure you're in Expert mode and open up the Preferences. On the CW tab just tick the Radio 1/2 signal Reverse box at the top of the window. I'm not sure if the LPT port band BCD code follows the radio selection. Good luck. 73... Randy, W8FN On 2/27/2014 2:44 PM, Dave Perry wrote: Paul or anyone on the reflector: I just purchased a second K3 and have it working nicely as the second rig within DX4WIN. I like the toggle feature that allows me to shift back and forth between the two radios. I am thinking about purchasing the DXDoubler SO2R product from Top Ten Devices as well as their new band decoder. I would like to use one band decoder with both rigs since I have one feed line running out to a remote antenna switch. Here are my questions: 1. If I select Top Ten as the band decoder within the Control tab under preferences and use LPT1 to connect the pc to the band decoder, will DX4WIN send BCD data for both radios to the band decoder - depending on which one I have toggled as the active radio (using Ctrl, Shift, F12)? For example, if radio 1 is on 20M and radio 2 is on 40M will DX4WIN send the required BCD data depending on which one is toggled in DX4WIN? The documentation indicated that BCD data would be sent for radio 1 but did not appear to mention if this would also happen if a second radio was also connected like I have it now. I would hope that BCD data is sent anytime I toggle between the two radios. 2. My second question is about the DXDoubler and how it works with DX4WIN. Dave at Top Ten said that DX4WIN reverses the selected radio. I assume that what he means is that if I select Radio 1 in DX4WIN the DXDoubler device will select Radio 2. Is this a know issue with DX4WIN and could this be fixed in a future update? That is why I am checking. Here is a quote from the Top Ten Devices website: DX4WIN, like many other logging programs (eg. CT, NA, TR, WriteLog), toggles Pin 14 on the selected LPT port when the operator changes radios. The defacto standard is that Pin 14 is high when Radio 1 is selected. However, DX4WIN drives Pin 14 high when Radio 2 is selected. Although there are ways to reverse cables and the like, so that switching works properly, the LEDs on the DXD will always be reversed. The purpose of this modification is to rearrange the internal logic in the DXD, so that everything functions properly, and the LEDs truly reflect the selected radio. I will also be using the DXD with N1MM, so I would want both logging programs to handle the radios the same way. I would not want to make the suggested Mod to the DXD to make it work with DX4WIN if it would then make N1MM operate in reverse. I wonder if Paul has a reason for not following the de facto standard? I would certainly want the LEDs to indicate the correct radio when using either program. Does anyone on the reflector use either of these products with DX4WIN? Any tips or suggestions would be welcome. Thank you. 73, Dave, N4QS __ DX4WIN mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/dx4win Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:DX4WIN@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ DX4WIN mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/dx4win Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:DX4WIN@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
[Dx4win] SO2R Question
Paul or anyone on the reflector: I just purchased a second K3 and have it working nicely as the second rig within DX4WIN. I like the toggle feature that allows me to shift back and forth between the two radios. I am thinking about purchasing the DXDoubler SO2R product from Top Ten Devices as well as their new band decoder. I would like to use one band decoder with both rigs since I have one feed line running out to a remote antenna switch. Here are my questions: 1. If I select Top Ten as the band decoder within the Control tab under preferences and use LPT1 to connect the pc to the band decoder, will DX4WIN send BCD data for both radios to the band decoder - depending on which one I have toggled as the active radio (using Ctrl, Shift, F12)? For example, if radio 1 is on 20M and radio 2 is on 40M will DX4WIN send the required BCD data depending on which one is toggled in DX4WIN? The documentation indicated that BCD data would be sent for radio 1 but did not appear to mention if this would also happen if a second radio was also connected like I have it now. I would hope that BCD data is sent anytime I toggle between the two radios. 2. My second question is about the DXDoubler and how it works with DX4WIN. Dave at Top Ten said that DX4WIN reverses the selected radio. I assume that what he means is that if I select Radio 1 in DX4WIN the DXDoubler device will select Radio 2. Is this a know issue with DX4WIN and could this be fixed in a future update? That is why I am checking. Here is a quote from the Top Ten Devices website: DX4WIN, like many other logging programs (eg. CT, NA, TR, WriteLog), toggles Pin 14 on the selected LPT port when the operator changes radios. The defacto standard is that Pin 14 is high when Radio 1 is selected. However, DX4WIN drives Pin 14 high when Radio 2 is selected. Although there are ways to reverse cables and the like, so that switching works properly, the LEDs on the DXD will always be reversed. The purpose of this modification is to rearrange the internal logic in the DXD, so that everything functions properly, and the LEDs truly reflect the selected radio. I will also be using the DXD with N1MM, so I would want both logging programs to handle the radios the same way. I would not want to make the suggested Mod to the DXD to make it work with DX4WIN if it would then make N1MM operate in reverse. I wonder if Paul has a reason for not following the de facto standard? I would certainly want the LEDs to indicate the correct radio when using either program. Does anyone on the reflector use either of these products with DX4WIN? Any tips or suggestions would be welcome. Thank you. 73, Dave, N4QS __ DX4WIN mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/dx4win Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:DX4WIN@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Dx4win] SO2R Question
I used a DX Doubler with DX4WIN for several years and it worked fine. You MUST have a real LPT port to drive it; a USB to LPT converter won't do the job. In version 8.x, the logic state for control for the radio switching LPT pin can be controlled. Make sure you're in Expert mode and open up the Preferences. On the CW tab just tick the Radio 1/2 signal Reverse box at the top of the window. I'm not sure if the LPT port band BCD code follows the radio selection. Good luck. 73... Randy, W8FN On 2/27/2014 2:44 PM, Dave Perry wrote: Paul or anyone on the reflector: I just purchased a second K3 and have it working nicely as the second rig within DX4WIN. I like the toggle feature that allows me to shift back and forth between the two radios. I am thinking about purchasing the DXDoubler SO2R product from Top Ten Devices as well as their new band decoder. I would like to use one band decoder with both rigs since I have one feed line running out to a remote antenna switch. Here are my questions: 1. If I select Top Ten as the band decoder within the Control tab under preferences and use LPT1 to connect the pc to the band decoder, will DX4WIN send BCD data for both radios to the band decoder - depending on which one I have toggled as the active radio (using Ctrl, Shift, F12)? For example, if radio 1 is on 20M and radio 2 is on 40M will DX4WIN send the required BCD data depending on which one is toggled in DX4WIN? The documentation indicated that BCD data would be sent for radio 1 but did not appear to mention if this would also happen if a second radio was also connected like I have it now. I would hope that BCD data is sent anytime I toggle between the two radios. 2. My second question is about the DXDoubler and how it works with DX4WIN. Dave at Top Ten said that DX4WIN reverses the selected radio. I assume that what he means is that if I select Radio 1 in DX4WIN the DXDoubler device will select Radio 2. Is this a know issue with DX4WIN and could this be fixed in a future update? That is why I am checking. Here is a quote from the Top Ten Devices website: DX4WIN, like many other logging programs (eg. CT, NA, TR, WriteLog), toggles Pin 14 on the selected LPT port when the operator changes radios. The defacto standard is that Pin 14 is high when Radio 1 is selected. However, DX4WIN drives Pin 14 high when Radio 2 is selected. Although there are ways to reverse cables and the like, so that switching works properly, the LEDs on the DXD will always be reversed. The purpose of this modification is to rearrange the internal logic in the DXD, so that everything functions properly, and the LEDs truly reflect the selected radio. I will also be using the DXD with N1MM, so I would want both logging programs to handle the radios the same way. I would not want to make the suggested Mod to the DXD to make it work with DX4WIN if it would then make N1MM operate in reverse. I wonder if Paul has a reason for not following the de facto standard? I would certainly want the LEDs to indicate the correct radio when using either program. Does anyone on the reflector use either of these products with DX4WIN? Any tips or suggestions would be welcome. Thank you. 73, Dave, N4QS __ DX4WIN mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/dx4win Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:DX4WIN@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
