[e-gold-list] DCSB: Ramzan and Van Someren; Minting Millidollars for Streaming Cash

2000-10-25 Thread R. A. Hettinga


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Subject: DCSB: Ramzan and Van Someren; Minting Millidollars for Streaming
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[Note that the Harvard Club is now "business casual". No more jackets and
ties... --RAH]


  The Digital Commerce Society of Boston

 Presents


  Zulfikar Ramzan,
  Financial Cryptographer,
 MIT Laboratory for Computer Science

   and

   Dr. Nicko Van Someren,
   Financial Cryptographer,
  Chief Technology Officer,
 nCipher PLC,

   "Aspen" vs. "Hancock":
  Minting Millidollars for Streaming Cash

 Tuesday, November 7th, 2000
 12 - 2 PM
  The Downtown Harvard Club of Boston
One Federal Street, Boston, MA


Zulfikar Ramzan is currently a PhD student at the Massachusetts Institute
of Technology where he works with the Cryptography and Information
Security research group. At MIT, he works under the supervision of
Professor Ronald Rivest, co-inventor of the RSA public-key cryptosystem
and the Micromint micropayment protocol. He has authored a number of
publications in the field of cryptography and has presented his research
at various conferences in his field [including the International
Conference on Financial Cryptography --RAH]. He holds a number of patents
in data security, and some of his work is being considered for use in
several national and international standards in the wireless
communications industry. Mr. Ramzan has worked in cryptographic algorithm
and protocol design with the Wireless Secure Communications group at
Lucent Technologies. Upon graduation, Mr. Ramzan will join Lucira
Technologies.


Dr Nicko van Someren co-founded nCipher in 1996. As Chief Technology
Officer Nicko leads nCipher's research team and directs the technical
development of nCipher products. From 1993 to 1996, Nicko was Technical
Director and co-founder of ANT Limited, where he developed hardware
products and application software. Before that, he was employed as a
Researcher by Xerox EuroPARC and as a Software Engineer by Atari Research
and Perihelion Software Limited. Nicko has almost 20 years' experience in
cryptography, software and hardware product development, and holds a
Doctorate and First Class degree in Computer Science from Trinity
College, Cambridge, UK.


Zully Ramzan will talk about the proposed design of Aspen: a practical
Micromint implementation for IBUC, the Internet Bearer Underwriting
Corporation. In addition to going over the basic underlying protocols, he
will discuss the various design and parameter choices. He will also
examine the practical ramifications of these decisions. Thereafter he
will discuss potential modifications and extensions that may be of use
for future implementations of Aspen. The ideas he will present are based
on discussions with Ron Rivest and Adi Shamir, the two co-inventors of
Micromint.

Nicko van Someren will then talk about the practical problems surrounding
the implementation of a MicroMint. He will consider the engineering
issues along with the economic issues and look at how the nature of
MicroMint mandates various unhelpful deployment issues. He will also
consider alternatives to MicroMint which aim to solve these issues.
[Including a signature-based solution IBUC is calling, for lack of a
better moniker, "Hancock", which would be about 100 times cheaper to
prototype, much less get to market, and streaming cash on the wire in 3-6
months. :-) --RAH]

Want to know what IBUC's going to do *now*? Come to the November DCSB
meeting and find out.


Appropriately enough, this meeting of the Digital Commerce Society of
Boston will be held on Election Day, Tuesday, November 7th, 2000, from
12pm - 2pm at the Downtown Branch of the Harvard Club of Boston, on One
Federal Street. The price for lunch is $35.00. This price includes lunch,
room rental, A/V hardware if necessary, and the speakers' lunch. The
Harvard Club has relaxed its dress code, which is now "business casual",
meaning no sneakers or jeans. Fair warning: since we purchase these
luncheons in advance, we will be unable to refund the price of your meal
if the Club finds you in violation of what's left of its dress code.


We need to receive a company check, or money order, (or, if we *really*
know you, a personal check) payable to "The Harvard Club of Boston", by
Saturday, November 4th, or you won't be on the list for lunch. Checks
payable to anyone else but The Harvard Club of Boston 

[e-gold-list] Exchange Rates

2000-10-25 Thread Goldfinger Coin and Bullion Sales.



JMR,,

Do you know if OmniPay is going to update the exchange rates 
for today (10/25/00) -- as there is a bit of a difference in the close, and OP's 
spot price for AU (about $3.50).

Thanks,

Mike


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[e-gold-list] Gold-today Update

2000-10-25 Thread Michael Moore






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[e-gold-list] Re: Fw: Re: KMG - MM??

2000-10-25 Thread Khurram Khan

Hello Mr. Barnes,

   It surprises me that you have such harsh words to say about the my servie, however, 
every month I get a check for the same amount from you.

   Khurram Khan



--- "Geoff Barnes" [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 wrote:

In truth, Khurram, emails are rarely, if ever, answered. I have personally

sent 11, and have gotten one, maybe two responses. Response to the last one

was a single word. Fortunately for me, that word was "funded". No apologies

for the delays.



Your website states that a phone number is "in progress", and has for some

time, yet if one looks hard on the EGold site, they have a phone number for

you. Of course, it is only answered by a machine and my two phone calls got

no return call.



You also whine and make excuses for non-delivery, market conditions, etc.

and seem to be willing to only take responsibility  for the "easy"

transactions. You hold checks beyond a reasonable time. If we take the time

to FedEx a check to you, is it silly to expect a short email saying "we've

got it! we're on it! Expect to be funded on [date]. And an email to complete

the transaction, saying that the account was funded and "thank you very much

for your patronage"?



We do a very steady business. Almost "free money" for you. We know what

Customer Service means. I'm sure you have SOME concept in your head when

somebody uses this term, but it certainly seems a far cry from the accepted

reality.



I've seen you blast people on this list when it is you who are in the wrong.

I sympathize with them. Despite the hassles of connecting with a new vendor,

we're taking our business elsewhere. Anyplace where "Customer Service" is

understood and applied, and where there is some sense that our commerce is

appreciated. I'm not the first to tire of you, Khurram, and I'm certain I

will not be the last.



I suggest that you, your staff(?) and anybody mildly interested in running a

business visit, read and understand the materials at www.cluetrain.com.



 Geoff Barnes





 - Original Message -

 From: "Khurram Khan" [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 To: "e-gold Discussion" [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 Sent: Tuesday, October 24, 2000 7:35 PM

 Subject: [e-gold-list] Re: KMG - MM??





  hello,

 

Please check your e-gold account before posting to the list.  If you

 provided us with your account number correctly, that check has been

funded.

 If you have problems contact the Kissmygold support first please!  All

 emails are answered and the customer service department of Kissmygold can

 help you better then I can.

 

  Khurram Khan

 

  President of Majestiq Enterprises

 

 

 

  --- "Steve Tom" [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 

   wrote:

 

  My cheque was sent on 10/08/2000 and it hasn't still been funded to my

 

  e-gold account. And it has been cashed on 10/19/2000 - I know it

exactly.

 

  

 

  I have e-mailed KissMyHold and got no reply. As usually, I get no reply

 

  from "Market Makers". At least none of my friends got reply from KMG.

 Does

 

  KMG work honestly? Doesn't it cheat?

 

  


 

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[e-gold-list] if you want to BUY GOLD

2000-10-25 Thread jpm

Don't forget if anyone wants to BUY GOLD (in sizes around 1/2 kilo or 
more), you simply wont get better servive than from www.coconut.com

We have masses of stock, ready for the next price rally.



At 4:44 PM -0600 10/25/00, Mike McNamara wrote:
At 3:32 PM -0700 10/25/00, Khurram Khan wrote:

It surprises me that you have such harsh words to say about the 
my servie, however, every month I get a check for the same amount 
from you.

Nobody has anything but harsh words about KMG's service it would seem!



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[e-gold-list] KMG's OK

2000-10-25 Thread Steve Tom

OK, KissMyGold has replied to my message and   funded my e-gold account...
But there was a long delay. I would even recommend to all mm's: please do
not do holds like these.

Bye all

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[e-gold-list] OmniPay still in business?

2000-10-25 Thread E. Barnes

I've probably missed some stuff, but is Omnipay still in business?  I 
was unable to get their website to work, being constantly cut off and 
told I'd timed out - after less than 3 minutes!

Have written and called them.  No answers.  Also wrote to Jim Ray. 
No response.

Are they still around?

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