[e-gold-list] Re: New program

2001-05-21 Thread Frank Zuchristian


Ordinarily Euro Gold Line will not make any
recommendations, however, we feel that this is worth a
look and then make up your own mind.
Launched today. A new payment alternative to Egold or
OS Gold.

It PAYS interest on each account!!
It's FREE to join!
The account numbers are nice and low around 464 (so
far)!!
There is a commission plan of 2US$ for each referral!!

http://www.v-funds.net/default.asp?ref=464
It's FREE and once you have it , you ALWAYS have
a nice low number RIGHT at the start !!

Frank
Euro Gold Line Admin
http://www.eurogoldline.nl
tel:  +31-26-844-0113
FAX:  +31-26-844-0342



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[e-gold-list] Re: New program

2001-05-21 Thread Michael Moore


 Launched today. A new payment alternative to Egold or
 OS Gold.

 It PAYS interest on each account!!
 It's FREE to join!
 The account numbers are nice and low around 464 (so
 far)!!
 There is a commission plan of 2US$ for each referral!!

 http://www.v-funds.net/default.asp?ref=464
 It's FREE and once you have it , you ALWAYS have
 a nice low number RIGHT at the start !!

What is the advantage of a lower account number?  is this an MLM?  No It
apparenrlyt has a referral commisison but not ongoing?

There seems, upon first glance, a dearth of information on the site.  such
as who are they?
How are the funds backed?  Is it gold? or what?

I see they charge 5% in or out,   What is the interest earned?
Is this a gold supplier or an 'investment'?

There are many other questions.

Kind regards,

[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sign up with e-gold today and get grams of e-gold here.
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http://www.osgold.com/index.php?id=1008
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[e-gold-list] Re: maples - guaranteed weight?

2001-05-21 Thread jpm


Regarding the below, my interpretation is that the Canada Government, 
guarantees that WHEN YOU PURCHASE A MAPLE FROM THEM, it is actually 
one ounce of actual gold.

(That strikes me as entirely unremarkable, actually.  For instance 
Ford motor company totally guarantees that the car you buy really 
is a car!)

What I thought was meant was:

That if you buy a Maple from ANYONE, in the future (example, I buy an 
old one from Jim Ray), the Canada Government then guarantees that it 
is one ounce --- ie, even if Jim has shaved it or it has been rubbed 
a bit over the years.

(Exactly as the governments guarantee that their money is worth .. 
their money!)

In that way, you could buy and sell Maples, as bullion, WITHOUT ASSAYING them.

But -- is that the case?



 At 5:00 PM -0400 5/15/01, Mark S. Ohberg wrote:
 Because the Royal Canadian Mint is well known and advanced, Maple
 Leaf Bullion Coins are bought and sold around the world.  Every Maple
 Leaf coin is guaranteed by the Government of Canada for weight and
 purity.

 is that a fact? -- it seems hard to believe.

 Can anyone point to where the CAN GOV asserts this is true, on a web
 site, or anywhere else? Anyway, can anyone supply any verification 
of this, I'd
 be fascinated to know.

 JP

A
Government Guaranteed - The Government of Canada produces the Gold 
Maple Leaf and
guarantees its gold content and purity.
This guarantee is embodied in the symbol of the country-the maple leaf.


Plus C
An Act respecting the marking of articles containing precious metals
http://laws.justice.gc.ca/en/P-19/text.html

Equals This:  Because the Gold Canadian Maple Leaf Bullion coin is 
Marked with the
Gold Canadian Maple Leaf, gold and purity tampering will lead to 
severe penalties
in accordance to the Royal Canadian Mint and Currency Act and The Canadian
Financial Administration Act. and is thus guaranteed.

Hope this helps

MSO



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[e-gold-list] Re: New program

2001-05-21 Thread Mike Poulos

Hi Michael,

Took a look at v-funds. Upon reading the site, I had one question that I
asked myself.

Why would I want to open an account if it is going to cost me 5% to spend my
e-gold into it? Sure, I have a lot of people that I can refer into this and
make a few hundred or thousand bucks, but WHY?

They seem to be using e-gold as a starting point. Without knowing who they
are, I rather stay safe with e-gold as we all know that our gold is safe
with them. Well, most of the time.

As for OS Gold, I have 455 referrals with a total of $32.31. I still have
not found a use for it but it is growing bit by bit and I have none of my
own money that I put in.

I remember Payment Alternatives that had launched several months ago where I
had over $9000 in referral fees that I never saw. I prefer to wait and see
what happened with this new one and keep my gold where it is.

Just my two cents worth.

MIKE
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From: Michael Moore [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Monday, May 21, 2001 4:37 PM
Subject: [e-gold-list] Re: New program


|
|  Launched today. A new payment alternative to Egold or
|  OS Gold.
| 
|  It PAYS interest on each account!!
|  It's FREE to join!
|  The account numbers are nice and low around 464 (so
|  far)!!
|  There is a commission plan of 2US$ for each referral!!
| 
|  http://www.v-funds.net/default.asp?ref=464
|  It's FREE and once you have it , you ALWAYS have
|  a nice low number RIGHT at the start !!
|
| What is the advantage of a lower account number?  is this an MLM?  No It
| apparenrlyt has a referral commisison but not ongoing?
|
| There seems, upon first glance, a dearth of information on the site.  such
| as who are they?
| How are the funds backed?  Is it gold? or what?
|
| I see they charge 5% in or out,   What is the interest earned?
| Is this a gold supplier or an 'investment'?
|
| There are many other questions.
|
| Kind regards,
|
| [EMAIL PROTECTED]
| http://www.gold-today.com
| Sign up with e-gold today and get grams of e-gold here.
| https://www.e-gold.com/newacct/newaccount.asp?cid=129542
| Sign up with osgold and get an osgold account today
| http://www.osgold.com/index.php?id=1008
| subscribe to the gold-today discussion group at
| http://groups.yahoo.com/group/goldtoday
|
|
|
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[e-gold-list] Re: maples - guaranteed weight?

2001-05-21 Thread Julian Morrison

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 Regarding the below, my interpretation is that the Canada Government,
 guarantees that WHEN YOU PURCHASE A MAPLE FROM THEM, it is actually
 one ounce of actual gold.
 
 (That strikes me as entirely unremarkable, actually.  For instance
 Ford motor company totally guarantees that the car you buy really
 is a car!)
 
 What I thought was meant was:
 
 That if you buy a Maple from ANYONE, in the future (example, I buy an
 old one from Jim Ray), the Canada Government then guarantees that it
 is one ounce --- ie, even if Jim has shaved it or it has been rubbed
 a bit over the years.
 
 (Exactly as the governments guarantee that their money is worth ..
 their money!)
 
 In that way, you could buy and sell Maples, as bullion, WITHOUT ASSAYING them.
 
 But -- is that the case?

Blatantly it can't be - or any Maple would be a blank check to shave the
coins and claim back the difference, over and over again.

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[e-gold-list] Re: New program

2001-05-21 Thread Mike Poulos

I am sure there may be someone but right now, I do not have time to read.
What's worst, is that it may cost me more to have the books shipped to
Jakarta than the cost of the books themselves.
!!!

:-) With a moustache,

MIKE
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Subject: [e-gold-list] Re: New program


| At 6:36 PM +0700 5/21/01, Mike Poulos wrote:
| As for OS Gold, I have 455 referrals with a total of $32.31. I still have
| not found a use for it but it is growing bit by bit and I have none of my
| own money that I put in.
|
| Mike, there must be someone who will swap your OSGold for e-gold, and
| then you can buy a couple paperbacks at http://bananagold
| !!!
|
| :)
|
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[e-gold-list] Re: OK, I give up

2001-05-21 Thread Frank Zuchristian


All right, I know when I'm licked.  Here's what I will
try for you Western Union buffs.

I will make arrangements to pick up late on Tuesday,
for Wednesday business.

I will make another pickup on Saurday AM for Monday
business.

Unfortunately, the orders must be addressed to:

Frank Zuchristian
Zaslaan 126
6823 GL Arnhem
The Netherlands

and must be directed to the office below:
POSTKANTOOR  
JANSPLEIN 56  
 
ARNHEM  
ARNHEM NL  
Tel: (31 ) (026 ) 3700226  
Services Offered: 

Send/Payout Money Transfer  

Please do not send it to another location, I cannot
run around to all of the locations in Arnhem.  I just
don't have the time.  Please fill out a corresponding
order form on our site and tell us in the comments
field that you are using Western Union services.

You can visit our site at:

http://www.eurogoldline.nl

It is very costly in time for us to do this (not to
mention how difficult it is to park anywhere), but to
stop the flow of inquiries, I will give it a try.

Frank
Euro Gold Line Admin
tel:  +31-26-844-0113
fax:  +31-26-844-0342

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[e-gold-list] Re: Banana Stickers and Columns

2001-05-21 Thread Craig Spencer

 Here is ANOTHER CAR photo - this one from England.
 
 http://bananagold.com/cars.html
 
 Good one - a VW bug.

Would that be and e-gold bug?

CCS

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[e-gold-list] SV: Re: Banana Stickers and Columns

2001-05-21 Thread junk

Oki - how do i get those stickers..??

I want to be the first one in sweden:))

/Patrik

-Ursprungligt meddelande-
Fran: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]For Craig Spencer
Skickat: den 21 maj 2001 05:48
Till: e-gold Discussion
Kopia: e-gold Discussion
Amne: [e-gold-list] Re: Banana Stickers and Columns


 Here is ANOTHER CAR photo - this one from England.

 http://bananagold.com/cars.html

 Good one - a VW bug.

Would that be and e-gold bug?

CCS

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[e-gold-list] SV: Re: Banana Stickers and Columns

2001-05-21 Thread junk

Oki - how do i get those stickers..??

I want to be the first one in sweden:))

/Patrik

-Ursprungligt meddelande-
Fran: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Amne: [e-gold-list] Re: Banana Stickers and Columns


 Here is ANOTHER CAR photo - this one from England.

 http://bananagold.com/cars.html

 Good one - a VW bug.

Would that be and e-gold bug?

CCS

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[e-gold-list] Re: Heap Of Gold Refunds....................

2001-05-21 Thread Steven


For everyone who is concerned about the Heap of Gold problems.
Today I received a refund from Heap Of Gold.  It was not complete
but it shows good faith. They said E-Gold has the rest of it so we
will have to get the remainder from E-Gold.  I received $500.00 of
my $530.00.  It seems they are doing their best to fix the problems.

Steven

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[e-gold-list] Re: New program

2001-05-21 Thread Viking Coder

 The account numbers are nice and low around 464 (so far)!!

Why is this a plus?

 There is a commission plan of 2US$ for each referral!!

a one-time referral payment? I prefer the ad infinitum percentage of
transaction fees type payout over the Paypal-like one-time payout. Also
the $2 referral payment only happens if they deposit $30. It costs $1.50
to put the money into the system, and then $1.50 to take the money out of
the system, for a grand total of $3.

Quotes from the front page of their website.
: The V stands for Value, where you will always get value on your money.

As opposed to what, since they accept e-gold?

On their FAQ page they make the following claim:
Now you can transfer youre-gold funds to VFunds. Yes finally your gold is
worth something of value.

Last I checked, e-gold was worth over $280 per ounce. e-gold always has
and always will have value. That is the whole point of being 100% backed
by hard metal.

: The V stands for Victory. where finally there is a secure method to
: earn profit. 

It's usually called work, or gambling. But gambling isn't a secure method.


: You can deposit or withdraw at the same rates of: 
: 5% Cash in, 5% Cash out 
: That is at least half of the current Money Maker rates. Additional
charges may
: apply for wire transfers and money orders based on your location. 

It costs 5% for me to take money out? And additional fees may apply? How
is that a benefit over e-gold?

I know of very few MMs who charge over 10% to do an InExchange from a
money order or bank wire. However, they aren't lying; 5% is at least 1/2
of 5%.


: Based on current bank interest rates, V-Funds.net will easily give you
an
: annual interest rate of close to 4 times current banking interest rates.

So they guarantee that I'll receive to ~12-16% interest? Yet they don't
even attempt to give a description of how this fantasic feat is
accomplished.


Now onto questions about the integrity of the site...

* They don't have SSL at the login screen.

* They don't have any contact info on their site.
The info provided on their domain name registration is:
Russell Alan
L88 Frl Rd
Syd, SA 5343
AT
Phone: 000
Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

He is based in Saudia Arabia without a valid phone number. I'm not
implying that Saudi Arabia is a haven of fraud. He is claiming to be from
a small city in a remote country, and he purposefully provides no phone
number or other method of contact than a mailing address. I have been
unable to find any reference to city called Syd in Saudia Arabia, even on
an arabic search engine, so it can't be that large.


* The domain name was registered on May 10th 2001 (less than 2 weeks ago),
and they onlny took the minimum 1 year registration.

* They make no mention of how or where the money is kept. They don't claim
to be gold-backed but will gladly accept your gold. They seem to a
dollar-based system.


Given all of this, I think I'll wait out on getting an account.


Viking Coder

Worth Two Cents?
http://www.2cw.org/VikingCoder

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[e-gold-list] Re: Heap Of Gold Refunds....................

2001-05-21 Thread Viking Coder

 They said E-Gold has the rest of it so we will have to get the remainder from
 E-Gold.

Wait... I must be misunderstanding something. 

Did they say that you will be receiving the rest in your e-gold account or
that e-gold ltd. has seized some of their account holdings, and that they
expect you to get the remainder of your refund from e-gold ltd.?


Viking Coder

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[e-gold-list] yet another completely free gram

2001-05-21 Thread jpm

http://bananagold.com/cars.html

houston, texas this time.

It's not real complex -- slap an e-gold sticker on your car, take a 
400x300 jpg photo of it,  email [EMAIL PROTECTED] and

YOU GET A GRAM OF GOLD, no obligation!

Only a few grams left though, so go for it!

JP


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[e-gold-list] Re: maples - guaranteed weight?

2001-05-21 Thread James M. Ray

At 9:22 PM -0400 5/21/01, Mark S. Ohberg wrote:

AND THE TOP 10 REASON (should be the number one reason) PEOPLE BUY
GOLD MAPLES IS::

Same strong gold color as MOLSON and LaBATTS Beer.
...

:^) 
Funny, I'm enjoying a Moosehead right now! Canada's oldest independent
brewery -- and one of the best-smelling beers out there, IMO.

I have a variety of the 22 karat gold coins, and they are more durable all right,
but they're just not bright-yellow enough for my taste in coins, and Maples are. 
I will try to store my coins securely in plastic envelopes, and resist the urge to
shave or otherwise debase them. :^) I've found that when talking about e-gold,
it's often useful to have a bit of physical gold that folks can touch. Humans are
visual, tactile creatures, and to get an impression in their minds, it's often good
to use something that can be seen and felt, IMO.

BTW, there's a gentleman in Indiana who says he has some Kruggerands and
wishes to trade them for e-gold. I don't know him personally, but I can put any
of you in touch with him if you e-mail me off-list. He says he has 10, and I told 
him to contact KIAC or GoldFinger, but are there any coin dealers I don't know
about out there who also like e-gold? 

Also, I'm looking about for an expert on the various uses of gold foil, so if
anyone out there can point me to someone, I'd be grateful. Thanks.
JMR

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