[e-gold-list] Re: turingdecoder completed
I have nothing to do with Windows computers, sorry! Cant you just add a line or two of code so it works on the web?! Hi, I don't know how to make a VB program work on the web. If you don't live on Antarctica a windows computer cannot be that far away... Anyway, if I were to make a complete program to do automated tries on all e-gold accounts, I would probably proceed to add a browser window to the program and let it interact with the turingdecoder I made, to do the automated attack. I don't see what could be the purpose of putting it in a web page, other than for demonstration purposes. Basically we have the situation (based on 50 e-gold accounts, and 3 or 4 trials before an account locks), that I have about 200 free lottery tickets every day , right there for the taking. These are very low odds tickets of course, but you never know. Most lotteries have low odds, yet there are winners every week. Obviously, with more and more people having broadband access at low cost, this is going to be a problem sooner or later. Why not take these 200 free lottery tickets, somebody with programming skills in a poor country will ask himself. This could cause most e-gold accounts to be locked continuously. The easiest way I see , to avoid these automated attacks on all e-gold accounts, is to stop using the account # for login purposes, use login names instead (to be choosen by the user). The account # should remain in use as the account # to which you can pay, and the # you show on your site. The login name should be used by the account owner to login into his account and do spends or whatever. The login name can be easy to remember, or more difficult if you want some extra security, but the purpose is that you don't share the login name on your website or other... This makes it much more difficult to run automated attacks on all e-gold accounts, because now you cannot simply run through all the account # from 10 to 99. It also solves a second problem. Right now it is very easy to boycot my competitors if I am working in the e-gold economy. For example if I run an e-gold casino or e-gold exchange service, I can set up a small program that runs automated attacks on my competitors' e-gold accounts , with the purpose to lock them up as much as possible (only 3 or 4 failed logins are needed to lock an account for a certain amount of time). With login names this problem dissappears because one doesn't know on which login name to run, inorder to shut down somebody's account. Danny http://two-cents-worth.com/?102468EG --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use e-gold's Secure Randomized Keyboard (SRK) when accessing your e-gold account(s) via the web and shopping cart interfaces to help thwart keystroke loggers and common viruses.
[e-gold-list] Re: Cambist First Birthday
Hi Jim, I thought I would take a look at your services, but I got DNS errors for all of them (then I noticed you mentioned you had a server down for upgrade). Anyway, as you provide exchange between e-metals I wonder if you could point me to any service where I could get either daily prices (over time) for gold and silver (in USD) or e-gold and e-silver so that I can put them into a spreadsheet to chart silver prices expressed in gold, or gold prices expressed in silver, or if you know where there might be an online chart of the gold/silver ratio? Ian Green http://two-cents-worth.com/?107242EG e-gold estas monda mono! [Esperanto] e-gold is world money! [English] - Original Message - From: Jim Davidson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: e-gold Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2002 5:39 PM Subject: [e-gold-list] Cambist First Birthday SNIP If you have an interest in any of these exchange opportunities, either because you have e-metal to sell or to buy, please feel free to contact me. I am always available by e-mail at [EMAIL PROTECTED] or [EMAIL PROTECTED] Later this week, our server should be back online at 10 mbps, a much needed upgrade in service. I'll let you know as soon as the sites are back. Meanwhile, progress continues on GoldBarter.com, SNIP --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use e-gold's Secure Randomized Keyboard (SRK) when accessing your e-gold account(s) via the web and shopping cart interfaces to help thwart keystroke loggers and common viruses.
[e-gold-list] Re: turingdecoder completed
Hi Danny, I agree with you! While the turing number already, I believe increases the cost to an attacker of bulk attacks on e-gold accounts, the idea of separating the login identity from the account number has been discussed a year or so ago. I support the idea specifically to prevent denial of service attacks as you have described. In fact, this is part of the security of Internet Bank accounts. The login number is completely different to your account number, consequently (whether or not banks planned it this way) anyone who has your bank account number for whatever reason, has no way to sabotage your banking login and prevent you handling your finances! I have just begun using a nifty little program for generating passphrases (Diceware Passphrase Generator), and this can be a fun way to create usernames also! Imagine, the username is a passphrase too! :) Occasionally I wonder if some parents chose their kids names with a passphrase generator!! ;) Ian Green http://two-cents-worth.com/?107242EG e-gold estas monda mono! [Esperanto] e-gold is world money! [English] - Original Message - From: Danny Van den Berghe [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: e-gold Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2002 8:55 PM Subject: [e-gold-list] Re: turingdecoder completed SNIP The easiest way I see , to avoid these automated attacks on all e-gold accounts, is to stop using the account # for login purposes, use login names instead (to be choosen by the user). SNIP This makes it much more difficult to run automated attacks on all e-gold accounts, because now you cannot simply run through all the account # from 10 to 99. SNIP It also solves a second problem. Right now it is very easy to boycot my competitors if I am working in the e-gold economy. SNIP With login names this problem dissappears because one doesn't know on which login name to run, inorder to shut down somebody's account. SNIP --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use e-gold's Secure Randomized Keyboard (SRK) when accessing your e-gold account(s) via the web and shopping cart interfaces to help thwart keystroke loggers and common viruses.
[e-gold-list] login numbers
At 3:25 PM +0530 2/7/02, Danny Van den Berghe wrote: The easiest way I see , to avoid these automated attacks on all e-gold accounts, is to stop using the account # for login purposes, use login names instead (to be choosen by the user). It's a great idea! It's why banks do it! Just have an option that you can change your log in ID to something other than your account number. -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Most of the world's great religions are hijacked from time to time by men who use the religious faith of others to manipulate them for self- serving purposes. Environmentalism is different however. It is not a religion that happens to be manipulated from time to time for political purpose--for the power and money it can bring to its controllers. Environmentalism is a religion which has been deliberately created, for the sole purpose of manipulating its followers. Arthur B. Robinson, 2001. - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use e-gold's Secure Randomized Keyboard (SRK) when accessing your e-gold account(s) via the web and shopping cart interfaces to help thwart keystroke loggers and common viruses.
[e-gold-list] PayPal IPO
Lets see how they do: http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=storycid=75u=/nf/20020207/tc_nf/16203 Dagny __ Do You Yahoo!? Send FREE Valentine eCards with Yahoo! Greetings! http://greetings.yahoo.com --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use e-gold's Secure Randomized Keyboard (SRK) when accessing your e-gold account(s) via the web and shopping cart interfaces to help thwart keystroke loggers and common viruses.
[e-gold-list] Re: login numbers
The easiest way I see , to avoid these automated attacks on all e-gold accounts, is to stop using the account # for login purposes, use login names instead (to be choosen by the user). It's a great idea! It's why banks do it! Just have an option that you can change your log in ID to something other than your account number. Exactly, and those who want so can make it serve as a 2nd passphrase (by making the login ID difficult enough). Those who want to keep on loging in with their account number can set the login ID equal to the account # (that should be the default to start with I think). So, everybody will be happy (and probably sleep a little better if there is lots of gold in the account) Danny http://two-cents-worth.com/?102468EG --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use e-gold's Secure Randomized Keyboard (SRK) when accessing your e-gold account(s) via the web and shopping cart interfaces to help thwart keystroke loggers and common viruses.
[e-gold-list] Re: PayPal IPO
Lets see how they do: http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=storycid=75u=/nf/20020207/tc_nf/16203 http://www.ipo.com/ipoinfo/profile.asp?p=IPOc=0001103415 Company Vitals 2000 Revenue: $14,460,000 2000 Net Income (Loss): ($169,506,000) A $70,000,000 IPO for a piece of this cake... Looks like a great short to me, especially if it is up in the first days of trading. Danny http://two-cents-worth.com/?102468EG --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use e-gold's Secure Randomized Keyboard (SRK) when accessing your e-gold account(s) via the web and shopping cart interfaces to help thwart keystroke loggers and common viruses.
[e-gold-list] Re: [dgc.chat] PayPal IPO
The IPO is Off. http://quote.bloomberg.com/fgcgi.cgi?ptitle=Top%20Financial%20Newss1=blktp =ad_topright_topfinT=markets_bfgcgi_content99.hts2=ad_right1_topfinbt=ad_ position1_topfinmiddle=ad_frame2_topfins=APGG8XBTFUGF5UGFs Craig (SnowDog) --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use e-gold's Secure Randomized Keyboard (SRK) when accessing your e-gold account(s) via the web and shopping cart interfaces to help thwart keystroke loggers and common viruses.
[e-gold-list] Re: turingdecoder completed
Hi Ian, I have just begun using a nifty little program for generating passphrases (Diceware Passphrase Generator), and this can be a fun way to create usernames also! Imagine, the username is a passphrase too! :) Yes, good idea. Occasionally I wonder if some parents chose their kids names with a passphrase generator!! ;) Do you know how to keep your wife from cracking into your e-gold account? Include her name into your login ID, that's the last she will expect.. Danny http://two-cents-worth.com/?102468EG --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use e-gold's Secure Randomized Keyboard (SRK) when accessing your e-gold account(s) via the web and shopping cart interfaces to help thwart keystroke loggers and common viruses.
[e-gold-list] Gold Heritage
While surfing www.gold-eagle.com this AM, I found the article http://www.gold-eagle.com/editorials_02/judge020802.html One Ounce Per Person Please by Philip Judge At the bottom of his article, Philip Judge is a director of the Gold Heritage Certificate www.goldheritagecertificate.com , an offshore Bullion Banking and Certificate Company. I went to the site. An overview is here, http://www.goldheritagecertificate.com/sitetour.htm But this page caught my eye about the Gold and Silver certificates, http://www.goldheritagecertificate.com/about_ghc.htm I know about MDOs and Perth Mint certificates but if this is a bearer certificate, then that would be interesting. Enjoy, don --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use e-gold's Secure Randomized Keyboard (SRK) when accessing your e-gold account(s) via the web and shopping cart interfaces to help thwart keystroke loggers and common viruses.
[e-gold-list] Re: Cambist First Birthday
Hello Ian, Here is a gold/silver chart, among many other great things: http://www.goldsheetlinks.com/silver.htm#charts Here is another site with a lot of goodies...there is certainly a gold/silver chart. http://www.sharelynx.net/Markets/Charts.htm --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use e-gold's Secure Randomized Keyboard (SRK) when accessing your e-gold account(s) via the web and shopping cart interfaces to help thwart keystroke loggers and common viruses.
[e-gold-list] Sell your gold to IceGold 1% above the spot rate!
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Dear e-gold list member, we have raised the rate with which we buy e-gold from you! Now you can sell e-gold to us 1% above the e-gold spot rate (previously at the spot). This means that for 100 USD worth of e-gold we will pay you 101 USD. Take advantage of the high gold price (current spot 300 USD/oz, up from 278.5 on January 1st 2002) and our special rate (currently 303 USD/oz, will change as spot rate changes). Did you know that IceGold Sell e-gold service is the easiest and cheapest way to change your e-gold into dollars, euros or pounds in your bank account? To exchange e-gold to currency of your choice now, please click here: http://www.icegold.com/sell_e-gold.php. With best wishes, Paul Vahur IceGold | http://www.icegold.com -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5.8 Comment: From Paul Vahur's notebook iQA/AwUBPGKOkEkfcBeFLocdEQJgxwCfROMoA1sr6nrfkz+B5rqtARStZZEAoNWU 6f8AqPD4B6X3rvlX9HplzktD =yZov -END PGP SIGNATURE- --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use e-gold's Secure Randomized Keyboard (SRK) when accessing your e-gold account(s) via the web and shopping cart interfaces to help thwart keystroke loggers and common viruses.
[e-gold-list] C2it
From: Jim Davidson [EMAIL PROTECTED] We accept: ... C2it Has anyone else found c2it to be IMPOSSIBLY slow? I can barely even log in sometime because the browser keeps timing out. I've complained to cust srvc twice now. Every other site I use is lightning fast, including e-gold, GoldMoney, my banking, credit card, ecount, etc. -- Patrick --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use e-gold's Secure Randomized Keyboard (SRK) when accessing your e-gold account(s) via the web and shopping cart interfaces to help thwart keystroke loggers and common viruses.
[e-gold-list] Pennant formation?
Hey Bob, Is gold doing another pennant formation? Ken --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use e-gold's Secure Randomized Keyboard (SRK) when accessing your e-gold account(s) via the web and shopping cart interfaces to help thwart keystroke loggers and common viruses.
[e-gold-list] Gold Economy Conference change
In order to meet the popular demand, we have changed the Gold Economy Conference to a weekend conference and moved it back a month to April 19th and 20th. The conference price will also be a lot cheaper - under $200. I will have all the new prices and schedule worked out in a few days. Jim Ray has promised to display his Boggs collection at the Gold Bug Ball! Ken Griffith The Gold Economy World Symposium http://www.goldeconomy.com/conference/ --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use e-gold's Secure Randomized Keyboard (SRK) when accessing your e-gold account(s) via the web and shopping cart interfaces to help thwart keystroke loggers and common viruses.
[e-gold-list] Re: Predictions for the Future of Digital Gold Currencies
Anybody is having problem doing spends or History? Its been down for 15-20 minutes. At least from here. Claude Cormier Ormetal Inc. http://www.goldcurrencies.ca http://www.ormetal.com = Claude Cormier Public Key http://www.ormetal.com/keys/ClaudeCormier.asc = --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use e-gold's Secure Randomized Keyboard (SRK) when accessing your e-gold account(s) via the web and shopping cart interfaces to help thwart keystroke loggers and common viruses.
[e-gold-list] Re: Gold Heritage
Hi Don, But this page caught my eye about the Gold and Silver certificates, http://www.goldheritagecertificate.co I know about MDOs and Perth Mint certificates but if this is a bearer certificate, then that would be interesting. These are indeed very much better than Perth Mint Certs... The GHC is backed entirely by unencumbered gold that is held under a strong governance system using escrow agents etc. Pecunix has negotiated a strategic partnership with Australia Fair (the issuers of the GHC) who will operate as the bullion services provider for Pecunix. It will be possible to make seamless exchange between Pecunix grams and GHC's or Austfair's range of gold and silver bullion coins. this in effect means that Pecunix will be able to offer you walking around money as well as online money. http://www.austfair.com.au http://www.millennium-money.com Best regards, Sidd. - Faxes delivered directly to any email address, coming soon to mBox! Find out more http://www.mbox.com.au/fax --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use e-gold's Secure Randomized Keyboard (SRK) when accessing your e-gold account(s) via the web and shopping cart interfaces to help thwart keystroke loggers and common viruses.
[e-gold-list] Re: Gold Heritage
Pecunix has negotiated a strategic partnership with Australia Fair (the issuers of the GHC) who will operate as the bullion services provider for Pecunix. It will be possible to make seamless exchange between Pecunix grams and GHC's or Austfair's range of gold and silver bullion coins. this in effect means that Pecunix will be able to offer you walking around money as well as online money. Way to go, Sidd! --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use e-gold's Secure Randomized Keyboard (SRK) when accessing your e-gold account(s) via the web and shopping cart interfaces to help thwart keystroke loggers and common viruses.
[e-gold-list] Re: Pennant formation?
Ken Griffith wrote: Hey Bob, Is gold doing another pennant formation? Ken It's too early to say, Ken. A week or 2, from now, is needed. Gold ran up 6 days in a row. Then it closed down a little bit from the close of the 6th day. Today, in New York, it stayed right around yesterday's close. I expected it to go down more but it didn't. I don't know what's up. The heads of the G7 central banks are meeting in Canada this Friday and Saturday, I read. Maybe people are expecting them to agree to devalue the USD some. I don't know. Ya Ya, we're the ones lowering the USD. Every things ok. We're in control... oh ya, we know what we're doing. Don't worry. We're taking care of things for ya. This will be for your own good. Trust us. Ya know. They might want to make like the FX doesn't have control of the USD. Anyways, when a bunch of bureaubrats like them get together, they can't be up to any good. JP's the expert on flags and pennants. He's the one to ask for what to be looking for if they develope. And if they do develope, IAITC subscribers will be kept informed of their developement. http://www.itsallinthecharts.com/ Hell, I subscribe to IAITC. It can remind me to see something that I've forgotten to see. Sometimes it's just *one* simple overlooked item that can make a huge difference. Hey, IAITC is good ammo. Bob --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use e-gold's Secure Randomized Keyboard (SRK) when accessing your e-gold account(s) via the web and shopping cart interfaces to help thwart keystroke loggers and common viruses.
[e-gold-list] Re: Gold Heritage
On Fri, 08 Feb 2002 09:56:08 +1300, Sidd [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It will be possible to make seamless exchange between Pecunix grams and GHC's or Austfair's range of gold and silver bullion coins. this in effect means that Pecunix will be able to offer you walking around money as well as online money. Thanx for the info Sidd. Now you have me curious. Can you expound on walking around money? Will this be like NORFEDs (http://www.norfed.org)? Years ago I investigated contracting with a private mint for silver rounds, so I understand NORFEDs markup. IMHO, NORFED made a mistake, their warehouse receipts should be for grams silver or grams gold which could be converted into junk silver, ingots, e-gold, etc with a small markup and not their spendy coins. I find these Gold Heritage Certificates interesting because they are denominated in ounces of metal ( troy? ) if I understand the www site although its not clear from the website how the storage fees for the metal backing work into the equation. So will walking around money be Gold Heritage Certificates in bearer form or a receipt for Austfair's range of gold and silver bullion coins? Is there a projected bid/ask spread for this walking around money? Thx, don --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use e-gold's Secure Randomized Keyboard (SRK) when accessing your e-gold account(s) via the web and shopping cart interfaces to help thwart keystroke loggers and common viruses.
[e-gold-list] www.freestateproject.org
Salutations! I asked Jason P Sorens (http://www.freestateproject.org) to put an e-gold link on his page. He has put one up on his links page, I have also asked him to accept contributions and get listed on the e-gold directory page, I even directed him to the e-gold sci page. His page has been getting traffic due to his assorted articles on www. If you have a notion, please ask him when he will be accepting donations. don --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use e-gold's Secure Randomized Keyboard (SRK) when accessing your e-gold account(s) via the web and shopping cart interfaces to help thwart keystroke loggers and common viruses.
[e-gold-list] Cracker costs CryptoLogic US$1.3M
From the Hettinga lists (and originally from another list) but interesting.
I think I'll stick with e-gold accepting casinos.
JMR
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http://www.canada.com/news/story.asp?id=
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[This has to be one of the first times I have seen a corporation
listing a hacker attack as a loss on their financial statement.
$1.3 million is no chump change today, all the managers on this list
looking for additional $$$ in their infosec budget should be pointing
this article out when the powers that be think that something like
this will never happen to their company, and that the V.P's really
should have new Herman Miller chairs instead. - WK]
Paul Vieira
National Post
Tuesday, February 05, 2002
CryptoLogic Inc., a gambling software maker, saw its fourth-quarter
profit drop 10%, largely because it took a charge related to a hacker
attack last August that saw 140 online gamblers pocket winnings of
about US$1.9-million.
The company, in a conference call with analysts yesterday, said it
hopes to recover a good chunk of the illicit gains through an
insurance claim. Nevertheless, it is taking a US$1.3-million charge.
A prudent approach was necessary, said Jean Nolting, CryptoLogic's
chief executive.
In the span of a couple of hours, a computer hacker broke into
CryptoLogic's Web servers and reprogrammed slot machines and a craps
table at two Web-based casinos that use the company's software.
Slot machine and craps players at the casinos won each time they
played.
The charge pulled down profit for the three-month period ended Dec. 31
to US$3.7-million, or US28¢ a share, from US$4.1-million (US29¢).
Meanwhile, revenue for the quarter increased 15%, to US$11.2-million
from $9.7-million.
Despite the fourth-quarter charge, the company posted higher profit in
2001. For the full fiscal year, CryptoLogic earned US$18.1-million
(US$1.33) on revenue of US$43.5-million, compared with $15.5-million
(US$1.18) on sales of US$34.4-million.
Excluding the writeoff, profit would have been US$4.2-million for the
fourth quarter and US$18.6-million for the year, the company said.
Also, the Toronto firm said it posted profit margin of 45% and has
US$60-million in cash as of the end of 2001.
During its call with analysts, Mr. Nolting said 2002 had the makings
of a profitable year, with solidly upside potential, especially in
the second half.
For this fiscal year, the company forecasts revenue of US$45-million
to US$50-million and profit between US$17-million and US$20-million.
It expects to hit the bottom of the growth curve in the first
quarter.
However, CryptoLogic said U.S. banks' refusal to accept credit card
charges from online gambling sites could hinder growth prospects in
North America. Credit card rejections in the United States jumped 25%
in December as anti-terrorism efforts and the uncertain legality of
online gambling in North America cast a chill over U.S. banks.
Therefore, the company said, it will be examining offshore markets.
Europe and Asia -- those will be our key areas, Mr. Nolting said.
By the end of the year, it wants half of its revenue to come from
Europe and Asia, the rest from North America. About 65% of its sales
now come from North America.
A key part of its foreign focus will be an online casino to be
operated by Littlewoods, a British-based gambling operator. However,
the launch of Littlewoods.com has been delayed as regulators in the
Isle of Man, where the online casino will be incorporated, want more
information about the software.
But Mr. Nolting said he expected Littlewoods to be in operation by the
end of the first quarter, and to generate up to 10% of total revenue.
Growth in 2002 will also be aided by the release of online versions of
bingo and poker that the company has been developing.
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