[e-gold-list] Re: Auctions

2002-02-17 Thread Tristan Petersen

With all this auction talk, I figure its time I got in on it too. 
GoldBarter is missing a couple fairly important components (feedback/
trust ratings, mainly), but looks like a pretty good site.  Anyway, I'm
starting out with auctions for parts of my baseball card collection. 
First one is at:
http://www.goldbarter.com/viewauction.jsp?id=64

Matthew Schlegel
Founder
Gold Builders International
http://www.goldbuilders.com

Dear Matthew,

GoldBarter.com does have a system to rate sellers and bidders. Our system
is called Honor Remarks, appropriately enough. You can only leave Honor
Remarks at the completion of an auction and only on the auction you are
involved in.

However, I agree that it might be hard to find this feature, as it is not
well documented on the site. We're working to remedy that, and add new
features and improvements to the GoldBarter.com auction system.

Regards,
Tristan Petersen
GoldBarter.com


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[e-gold-list] slash (dot!)

2002-02-17 Thread jpm


Escape also appears in every hyperlink as a slash (/), a programming
command that allows Web users to move from computer system to computer
system, or from page to page, in a website simply by clicking on a
hyperlink.



Escape is associated with backslash ( \ )

slash ( / ) has utterly, nothing, at all, whatsoever to do with escape.

Slash is just like a hyphen or a colon.

The slashes used in URLs have utterly nothing, whatsoever, even 
vaguely, to do with escape sequences.

Typical hopelessly, utterly, wildly, bizarrely inaccurate writing by Wired.





Bemer said...
It's sad. Technology develops through decades of work by many people.
That's why I put my work into the public domain whenever possible.

That's why you're a socialist fool who's never achieved anything, Bemer! :)

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[e-gold-list] Re: charge back problem

2002-02-17 Thread Ben Legume

Apologies if this has already been answered, as I get a daily digest 
I may be a few messages behind.

There is no way for a merchant to avoid chargebacks if a sale is done 
over the internet. The credit card companies simply don't work that 
way. The only way for a merchant to have protection (as when a 
physically stolen card is used in a real world store) is by having 
the supposed customer's signature and a swipe impression of the card. 
All a credit card customer needs to do is dispute a charge, and it 
will be reversed. As there is no real way of disputing it (short of 
somehow getting the card holder to own-up to the charges) there is no 
way for the merchant to reverse the claims.

If you can find some way around this there are literally tens of 
thousands of merchants who have been burned through online and 
telephone sales and would like details.


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[e-gold-list] Re: [dgc.chat] New exchange provider?

2002-02-17 Thread SnowDog


 Does anybody know who

 http://www.goldmountainexchange.com/

 is?

They're being promoted by Goldfinger, but I don't know if Goldfinger is the
actual agent behind www.GoldMountainExchange.com.

Craig



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[e-gold-list] Re-post with corrected email! Cheap hosting/domain registration

2002-02-17 Thread Andi LeDuc


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[e-gold-list] New exchange provider?

2002-02-17 Thread Dagny Taggart

Does anybody know who 

http://www.goldmountainexchange.com/

is?
Are they a member of the eCTA?

Has anybody had any experience with them?

Dagny

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[e-gold-list] New Auction Site

2002-02-17 Thread Lucky Bee


For ones that like auctionsBrand new kid in town with goal to be bigger 
then E-bay.

Free to register-take the tour.
Good management
http://www.bidfields.com/Index.cfm?FuseAction=HomePageREF=2515


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[e-gold-list] amazon, huge electronics section

2002-02-17 Thread jpm

i noticed on amazon that they now have a truly, truly stupendously 
large Electronics collection.  They say seven times larger than your 
typical electronics superstore

They seem to be focussing on the field.

I literally couldn't find any little obscure piece of hifi or what 
have you that they don't have.

(Preivously I found their selection to be somewhat limited to hit 
items from each supplier.  You know, like they'd sell imacs but 
nothing else from Apple, etc.  Now I can hardly find something they 
don't stock.)

Enjoy, you can buy it ALL, spending your goldgrams or e-gold or 
1mdcgrams DIRECTLY, at bananagold.com

Why would you screw around with national currencies?

Enjoy, JP!

(yes, Banana accepts 1mdcgrams now.)




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[e-gold-list] Re: New exchange provider?

2002-02-17 Thread Michael Moore

They are apparently a new Exchange provider.

No they do not belong to the eCTA ..Yet.

kind regards,

Michael Moore
Vice President
eCurrency Trade Association Inc.
www.exchangeprovider.net
'Setting the standard for the Gold Based Economy'
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Does anybody know who

http://www.goldmountainexchange.com/

is?
Are they a member of the eCTA?

Has anybody had any experience with them?

Dagny

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[e-gold-list] Honor Remarks

2002-02-17 Thread Jim Davidson

Dear Friends,

I would like some feed back on the Honor Remarks concept
as we are implementing it over at GoldBarter.com, and as
y'all may wish to see it implemented there.  You may have
information about individuals you have worked with before
which you would like to include in Honor Remarks comments.

However, presently, the system only allows you to leave
Honor Remarks at the completion of an auction, and only on
the auction you are involved in.  So, if you refuse to be
involved in an auction by someone you feel is tawdry,
untrustworthy, reprehensible, or generally bad, you are
not in a position to add anything to the market's info on
this person, unless you bid on one of their items just out
of spite (and what if yours is the winning bid?!) in order
to make a negative remark.  The same is true of people about
whom you have good things to say, but whose items are not of
interest to you, or are too expensive for you to bid upon.

So, I wonder if y'all would like to be able to view remarks
by people who have not participated in an auction?  Should
just anyone be able to come to the site and add remarks
about anyone?

As we know, a very successful exchange provider made for
himself an excellent reputation over at eBay, and used
the reputation he created to help him generate business for
his exchange service.  So, this feedback system, as Matthew
pointed out, is a significant part of GoldBarter.com.  It
is important to us to get it right.

Regards,

Jim Davidson
 http://www.GoldBarter.com/ 


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[e-gold-list] re: New exchange provider

2002-02-17 Thread Jim Davidson

Dear Friends,

I don't know if Ken Griffith has his ears on right now, so
I'm offering my feedback.  Earlier this week, I received
a message from 
  Ken Griffith [EMAIL PROTECTED]
which causes me to suppose that there is a relationship 
between Ken and this new exchange vendor.  I hope that Ken
doesn't mind this disclosure, and would be pleased if he
sheds any further light on this situation.

My best regards to Gold Mountain Exchange, David Mueller,
and all who are involved in this exciting new entry into
the world of DGC exchanges.  Welcome to the action-packed
world of fiat to digital exchanges, guys!

Regards,

Jim Davidson
 http://www.Cambist.net/


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[e-gold-list] credit card chargebacks

2002-02-17 Thread Jim Davidson

Dear Ben,

 There is no way for a merchant to avoid chargebacks if a 
 sale is done over the internet. 

There is no way to avoid all chargebacks, certainly. That
is true, however, whether the sale is done via Internet or
at a storefront.

 The credit card companies simply don't work that way. 

Correct.  Credit card merchant accounts are a pretty poor
deal for the merchants.  They pay 5% (more with Amex) and
a per item fee, plus a monthly fee, plus equipment rental
or software licenses, and any charges that are reversed get
sucked straight out of the merchant's bank account, no matter
how much damage that does to his business.  It can lead to
utter disaster.

So, why do merchants do it?  Quite simple: customers demand
it.  There is a huge amount of money available to merchants
who provide credit card services for the convenience of their
customers.

 The only way for a merchant to have protection (as when a 
 physically stolen card is used in a real world store) is by 
 having the supposed customer's signature and a swipe 
 impression of the card. 

Neither of these things protects against a stolen card.
All charges against a card that is reported stolen can be
reversed.  The merchant is screwed, unless he is paying too
much for insurance, in which case he has already been screwed
by the insurance vendor, and is a little less screwed by the
stolen credit card charges being reversed.

 All a credit card customer needs to do is dispute a charge, 
 and it will be reversed. 

Largely true.  That's true in the storefront world as well
as on the Internet.  However, it is much harder to dispute
some charges.  Try disputing charges with a major corporation
when you are just an individual, and you'll find that there
is an entirely different standard at play.

 As there is no real way of disputing it (short of somehow 
 getting the card holder to own-up to the charges) there is no 
 way for the merchant to reverse the claims.

There is no certainty that any appeal will be answered.  A
merchant can appeal any reversed charge, but it is a headache
and three kinds of hassle, and usually fails.

If you can find some way around this there are literally tens of 
thousands of merchants who have been burned through online and 
telephone sales and would like details.

Yes.

There are, of course, ways to limit the risk to the merchant.

If you go to PlanetGold, I think you can find there an 
interview with Graham Kelly from some months ago.  In that
interview, Graham mentions a $20,000 credit card order for,
I seem to recall, evocash.  So, Graham sent a private 
investigator around to verify the card holder really placed
that order.  Or perhaps called the cardholder.  In any event,
Graham sees a trivial percentage of chargebacks, and he 
does accept credit card orders sometimes from some individuals
according to the interview.

Regards,

Jim 
 http://www.goldbarterholdings.com/


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[e-gold-list] Re: credit card chargebacks

2002-02-17 Thread jpm

At 11:37 PM -0600 2/17/02, Jim Davidson wrote:
Largely true.  That's true in the storefront world as well
as on the Internet.  However, it is much harder to dispute
some charges.  Try disputing charges with a major corporation
when you are just an individual, and you'll find that there
is an entirely different standard at play.


Absolutely.  In fact -- BY MAGIC -- when it's a BANK making a charge, 
BY A STRANGE AND AMAZING COINCIDENCE, a whole other set of rules 
apply.

How odd! :)

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http://www.interestingsoftware.com/mayscale.html
See the essay in gray at the bottom!
JP

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[e-gold-list] New Planetgold Interview!!

2002-02-17 Thread Ragnar

Run, don't walk, to read the new interview on Planetgold of a
major participant in the gold economy revolution!

http://planetgold.com



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[e-gold-list] timing of chargebacks

2002-02-17 Thread Jim Davidson

Dear Mosboris,

 Is there any reasonable way (exept accepting e-currencies ) 

Accepting gold backed currencies such as GoldMoney or e-gold
is a good way to do business.

 to fight with bad customers who bought your online product 
 using credit card and ask money back through their bank?

Yes.  Several ways.  First, when they ask to purchase with
a credit card, get their address and phone number.  Call
them up to verify that they are making the purchase.  By
itself, that event helps your case.

 May be there is some rules like for a example  customer 
 can ask charge back not later then within 7 days after 
 purchasing or you can expect charge back from any 
 customer any time?

You can impose that rule, but it won't do you much good.
You can expect chargebacks at any time.  Even if you make
the customer click an accept button that says that they
have only seven days to refuse the charge on their credit
card, the credit card companies may not accept that action
as signifying anything.

If, on the other hand, you don't provide the customer with
anything of value until a period of weeks has passed, and
you make the credit card customer aware of this fact up
front, you may get some advantage over those who would
claim their card was stolen.  If they use the card during
the intervening time for something else, and don't want
that charge reversed, then they can't very well claim a
stolen card.

But, the value of credit card purchases for online stuff
is instant gratification.  You are going to have to have
something pretty clever in order to get people to wait
very long for it.

Regards,

Jim
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