[e-gold-list] RE: Risky business?
Their URL is http://www.energyflow.com/default.cfm?ReferredBy=10123 (OK, so I included my referral ID).They mail unbounceable checks and money orders among other things. I've found them to be convenient to use for sending money, especially when paying for eBay auctions when the seller won't take Paypal. This is the first time I've ever had a transaction rejected because they didn't like the recipient. -Original Message- What kind of mail processing do they do? And if they only do mail processing and not financial transactions, what do they care where the mail goes? Do you have a website for this company? _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use e-gold's Secure Randomized Keyboard (SRK) when accessing your e-gold account(s) via the web and shopping cart interfaces to help thwart keystroke loggers and common viruses.
[e-gold-list] fractal economics
http://www.forbes.com/2002/04/02/0402mandelbrot_print.html JP, perhaps it's all in the fractals? JMR --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use e-gold's Secure Randomized Keyboard (SRK) when accessing your e-gold account(s) via the web and shopping cart interfaces to help thwart keystroke loggers and common viruses.
[e-gold-list] Re: fractal economics
http://www.forbes.com/2002/04/02/0402mandelbrot_print.html JP, perhaps it's all in the fractals? JMR Already know about it, nah Mandlebrot has his head up his ass on this one pal! :) Like every other mathematician, ever, who comes up with the system to predict stock moves - he'll lose all his money on the first trade See: LTCM --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use e-gold's Secure Randomized Keyboard (SRK) when accessing your e-gold account(s) via the web and shopping cart interfaces to help thwart keystroke loggers and common viruses.
[e-gold-list] Merchandising
Hi I found a site that allows sites of any size to sell a variety of merchandise at no cost. No need to pre-print products or deal with shipping hassles, credit card orders, or customer service - the site takes care of everything. They work with some of the leading brands on the Internet and have over 200,000 stores online! Now, I am telling you this because I would like to get your written permission include your company logo in my store to conform with the legal requirements if the site. I just joined this new service and find that I can create and sell T-shirts, mugs, mouse pads, Tank Tops, Tote bags and a few other excellent items with any designs on them. All that I do is to upload a picture, and they create a complete storefront for me - completely free. It's easy and does not take long -; in addition, it is a lot of fun. Try it out by visiting this link: http://www.cityhost.za.net If you visit the site through that link, I will get credit in their referral program should you decide to rather setup a store for your self, which is also great. Go check it out for yourself, it is cool! Please send me your logo(s) that is at least 200 pixels high together with your written permission that I may use this logo on commercially sold items. I will inform you as soon as your items are ready. I will look into the design of an interface that will enable visitors to use e-gold as alternative payment if I get a positive response or this is another great opportunity for bananagold! Thanks, Lourens Human == Brought to you by Ananzi Shopping for specials, competitions and free goodies! [http://www.ananzishopping.co.za] --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use e-gold's Secure Randomized Keyboard (SRK) when accessing your e-gold account(s) via the web and shopping cart interfaces to help thwart keystroke loggers and common viruses.
[e-gold-list] RE: Risky business?
Peter shalom, I have surfed the EnergyFlow.com site. They accept Credit Card payments and exchange those payments into a money order. As we all know, using credit cards is not secure and thus their service is open to fraudulent activities. What I find annoying is that they libel innocent third parties. This is un-acceptable. E-Gold did nothing wrong and is held guilty of fraudulent activities - that's in-justice. I think you can over come any barrier they put. Send the money order to any market maker on his/her private name. I am sure their database of rejected third parties does not cover market makers private names. All the best, Arik Schenkler - CEO Use Internet Dollar emoney for anonymity, finalization of deal and fee free funds movements from peer to peer - http://InternetDollar.com We accept E-Gold !!! --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use e-gold's Secure Randomized Keyboard (SRK) when accessing your e-gold account(s) via the web and shopping cart interfaces to help thwart keystroke loggers and common viruses.
[e-gold-list] subtle color shift?
OK, maybe this is too trivial to even bring up, but did the shade of the background rectangle color of the e-gold spend screens recently shift to a somewhat tanner yellow? (I actually like it; this seems more readible.) -- David Beroff [EMAIL PROTECTED] Founder/CEO, LeadFactory.com P.O. Box 234, Jenkintown, PA 19046-0234 (USA) http://LeadFactory.com Voice: +1 (215) 576-6800 Fax: +1 (215) 576-6853 ICQ: 3652887 Toll-free: 1.800.668.3163 Home page: http://David.Beroff.com --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use e-gold's Secure Randomized Keyboard (SRK) when accessing your e-gold account(s) via the web and shopping cart interfaces to help thwart keystroke loggers and common viruses.
[e-gold-list] Progeny; was Re: dangerous fake emails! watch out!
Actually, real progeny email now looks like: From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Fri Apr 05, 2002 09:19:23 PM US/Eastern To: jimray=me Subject: new e-gold Progeny account created The account 'Peter X. XX.', # 51 has been created with you (Account 101574) marked as the Originator. (This mail automatically generated). Great!! This will make it easier for us to (additionally) reward those people who do sign up through us. Now all we need is a screen linked from the Account Info page which details all progeny at once. Another trivial addition, I'm sure! :-) -- David Beroff [EMAIL PROTECTED] Founder/CEO, LeadFactory.com P.O. Box 234, Jenkintown, PA 19046-0234 (USA) http://LeadFactory.com Voice: +1 (215) 576-6800 Fax: +1 (215) 576-6853 ICQ: 3652887 Toll-free: 1.800.668.3163 Home page: http://David.Beroff.com --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use e-gold's Secure Randomized Keyboard (SRK) when accessing your e-gold account(s) via the web and shopping cart interfaces to help thwart keystroke loggers and common viruses.
[e-gold-list] sneaky scammer email, plus 2 cents worth v. click 2 cents
Hello, AFAICS, click two cents by the fiord boys looks llike a clone of the original, kick-ass two-cents-worththink I'll stick with the orginal! IS THAT WORTH 2 CENTS, OR WHAT? ..and, I had to wait patiently, but I received my personalised copy of the latest fraudulent e-gold scam mail (reproduced below for your enjoyment)! E-mail message From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ( [EMAIL PROTECTED]) Date: Mon, Apr 8, 2002, 12:21am (EDT-1) To: **@free-market.net Subject: e-gold Account User Agreement updates - * * * Important information about your e-gold account * * * - e-gold Account User Agreement updates Please go in yours account and read e-gold Account User Agreement using this link. * * * IMPORTANT * * Only after logging in and reading updates you can continue spend e-gold. - Thank you for using e-gold! - This automatic email sent to: **@free-market.net Do not reply to this email. best, .. forrest --Worth 2 cents?-- http://www.two-cents-worth.com/?103300EG --View my e-gold directory at: http://lowell_potter.tripod.com/ --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use e-gold's Secure Randomized Keyboard (SRK) when accessing your e-gold account(s) via the web and shopping cart interfaces to help thwart keystroke loggers and common viruses.
[e-gold-list] Bubble of Gold???
--- begin forwarded text Status: U To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 From: ZeroTraces [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mailing-List: list [EMAIL PROTECTED]; contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] Delivered-To: mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sun, 07 Apr 2002 20:18:24 - Subject: [e-gold-swap] Welcome to Bubble of Gold! The place where in 14 days, you get a 280% payout !.. This just started! The time to get in is now! Payouts have already begun! http://communities.msn.com/BubbleOfGold/welcometobubbleofgold.msnw Join at the MSN forum and play! This is from the mesage listing! This morning's payouts have been done BubbleAdmin 4/7/2002 6:24 AM Made first spendMember's Name 4/6/2002 2:21 PM Paid Member's Name 4/6/2002 12:07 PM Paid! Thanks Scott Member's Name 4/6/2002 6:06 AM First round of payouts have been done. BubbleAdmin 4/6/2002 4:48 AM -- Note: Member's Names have been replaced for privacy. Join the forum to see who they are. -- How it works You spend to E-Gold account # 513357, any amount from $ 10.00 to $ 500.00. Then for the next 14 days, you will get 20% payout to your E-Gold account, per day. For a total of 280%! Complete information can be found at the forum. http://communities.msn.com/BubbleOfGold/welcometobubbleofgold.msnw Use referral id# 510512 on the memo line of your e-gold spend please. I want the referral bonus! You can get it too, by sending out an ad like this one with your e-gold information in it instead of mine. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~-- Buy Stock for $4 and no minimums. FREE Money 2002. http://us.click.yahoo.com/k6cvND/n97DAA/ySSFAA/a2holB/TM -~- Open a free e-gold account here: https://www.e-gold.com/newacct/newaccount.asp?cid=102468 Community email addresses: Post message: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscribe:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ --- end forwarded text -- - R. A. Hettinga mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] The Internet Bearer Underwriting Corporation http://www.ibuc.com/ 44 Farquhar Street, Boston, MA 02131 USA ... however it may deserve respect for its usefulness and antiquity, [predicting the end of the world] has not been found agreeable to experience. -- Edward Gibbon, 'Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire' --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use e-gold's Secure Randomized Keyboard (SRK) when accessing your e-gold account(s) via the web and shopping cart interfaces to help thwart keystroke loggers and common viruses.
[e-gold-list] RE: fractal economics
The problem with _any_ method of stock market prediction is that it is self-defeating. If I can figure out an algorithm to prediction that ABC Corp.'s stock, currently trading at $3, will be at $10 a week from today, then lots of other people will figure it out too. Because of that, the price would already be $10, not $3. I don't see how any market analysis Mandelbrot can come up with can get around that. Yes, that is absolutelty and completely correct. There's a name for that, it's closure theory or some such. Those moron pinheads running Long Term Capital Management thought they had the maths to beat the markets. Fools. It's an art form - the best you can do is use experience and judgement and try your best! -- --- Gold is absolute objectivity. It is blind like Justice. It has no politics and no ideology, no likes or dislikes, no friends or enemies. All it recognizes is its possessor, whom it serves faithfully so long as he has it. Charles De Gaulle --- --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use e-gold's Secure Randomized Keyboard (SRK) when accessing your e-gold account(s) via the web and shopping cart interfaces to help thwart keystroke loggers and common viruses.
[e-gold-list] Re: e-ponzis? -- the gold economy
I'm new to e-gold and still researching it, whats out there, where the needs are, where the adaptation is, etc. Almost all searches are dominated my pyramid schemes, I find it hard to believe people shrewd enough to use egold are credulous enough to try these. Is this the extent of the e-gold economy? Mark, the ponzi schemes are crap. Put them out of your mind http://www.bananagold.com ... you can now use all major DGCs at the world's biggest online store, amazon.com (my company owns this) http://www.xodds.com ... perhaps the most innovative site on the whole internet; it runs on e-gold a whole new form of investing in markets http://www.thegoldcasino ... really an entirely new paradigm for marketing and commerce. without question the best of all online casinos, and utterly innovative as unlike all other online casinos you can take your winnings INSTANTLY, due to the nature of e-gold/goldmoney http://magazinedepot.com ... absolutely perfect example of e-gold commerce, e-gold commerce to perfection http://www.planetgold.com ... this is the newspaper of the revolution, check out some of the interviews with major DGC figures congressman Ron Paul, and so on. (Operated by the same guy who does magazinedepot.com) I very much like the idea of egold but can see this as a limiting factor perception-wise. There is NO LIMIT to the vistas of e-gold, Mark. The bottom line is you can make SHITLOADS of money, as you are now one of the first handful of humans, essentially, to know about DGCs. In 5 years, DGCs will be as common as telephones are today. Don't forget, the *raison d'etre* of the internet .. .is DGCs. DGCs are the most significant invention since the idea of coining precious metals into repeatably shaped coins. Every single DAY, people are buying books, videos, DVD players, cameras, video cameras, microwave ovens, Macs, PCs, cellfones, printing calculators, kitchenware, TV sets, big screen TV sets, plasma screen TV sets, espresso machines, hifi, walkmans, luggage, CDs, clocks, prams, toys from http://www.bananagold.com Enjoy. -mark --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use e-gold's Secure Randomized Keyboard (SRK) when accessing your e-gold account(s) via the web and shopping cart interfaces to help thwart keystroke loggers and common viruses.
[e-gold-list] excitement! (prize!)
After that last email I am now so excited about DGCs! :) The NEXT PERSON and the THIRD PERSON to use http://www.bananagold.com/buy gets a one gram prize! You gotta email your five digit banana id order number to the list! Enjoy!! --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use e-gold's Secure Randomized Keyboard (SRK) when accessing your e-gold account(s) via the web and shopping cart interfaces to help thwart keystroke loggers and common viruses.
[e-gold-list] Re: sneaky scammer email, plus 2 cents worth v. click 2 cents
AFAICS, click two cents by the fiord boys looks llike a clone of the original, two-cents-worth How is Click Two Cents a clone? It is based on the same concept that JP May came up with a while ago, however there the similarity ends. Almost every new innovation that Click Two Cents has released has been hastily cloned by two-cents-worth. Most notably: - Actual account name in the 'Pay' field - simplified link - Account name displayed on the preview/amount-choice page Click Two Cents is still distinguished from two-cents-worth in that it allows the payer to choose which unit metal to tip in. Nobody is forced to use either of these services, but Click Two Cents is not, and has never been, a mere clone of two-cents-worth. - Norse Concepts _ http://456789.clicktwocents.com --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use e-gold's Secure Randomized Keyboard (SRK) when accessing your e-gold account(s) via the web and shopping cart interfaces to help thwart keystroke loggers and common viruses.
[e-gold-list] Re: [dgc.chat] Big Brother comes to GoldMoney
--- C. Cormier - Ormetal Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 7 Apr 2002, at 15:42, Ragnar wrote: Are you sure you might not want to rephrase that? Yes I am Sure. Anonymity is one of the most potent weapons a common man can have against tyranny. If Gold Money was forced by government to institute the KYC policy, as were all the banks, then I can understand. It's either do that, or die. In such a case, I would have put a disclaimer in the message saying that the KYC policy was forced upon Gold Money. If Gold Money simply thinks that KYC is a good idea, independent of government intervention, then I think it is a shame. Of course, Gold Money is a business, and they can do what they like. If KYC is a good business tool and makes business sense, then kudos for Gold Money. I can't speak for others, but I would not use a KYC financial system if I could help it. Regards, Ragnar = Liberty Impact! Check out this free, hard-hitting weekly newsletter about privacy, liberty, offshore banking, tax avoidance digital currencies. http://www.libertyimpact.com __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Tax Center - online filing with TurboTax http://taxes.yahoo.com/ --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use e-gold's Secure Randomized Keyboard (SRK) when accessing your e-gold account(s) via the web and shopping cart interfaces to help thwart keystroke loggers and common viruses.
[e-gold-list] Re: [dgc.chat] Big Brother comes to GoldMoney
--- C. Cormier - Ormetal Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Anonymity is one of the most potent weapons a common man can have against tyranny. So you suggest we all hide behing a black curtain. I say that the best weapons is to stand up, show who you are, and fight. You mean like the Branch Davidians over at Waco, Texas? Or Randy weaver at Ruby Ridge? These people were massacred. You really cannot accept the fact that to stand up, show who you are can lead to disastrous consequences not only to yourself, but to your family? The government would love to see who you are so that it can extinguish you. It is not always a good idea to engage in blood shed. Fighting on the governments terms is suicide. Should I stand up, show who I am in front of a tank? Anonymity is not a dirty word. It is a legitimate claim to one's right to be let alone, and to be able to conduct one's business and express oneself without fear of retaliation by the majority in power. Anonymity is a crucial lynchpin of liberty. To deny people that is an insult, IMHO. Regards, Ragnar = Liberty Impact! Check out this free, hard-hitting weekly newsletter about privacy, liberty, offshore banking, tax avoidance digital currencies. http://www.libertyimpact.com __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Tax Center - online filing with TurboTax http://taxes.yahoo.com/ --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use e-gold's Secure Randomized Keyboard (SRK) when accessing your e-gold account(s) via the web and shopping cart interfaces to help thwart keystroke loggers and common viruses.
[e-gold-list] that bananagold contest!
the winner will be judged on the FIRST and THIRD person at banana who buys anything (it does not matter what order the emails arrive here) one gram each to the two winners! http://bananagold.com/buy --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use e-gold's Secure Randomized Keyboard (SRK) when accessing your e-gold account(s) via the web and shopping cart interfaces to help thwart keystroke loggers and common viruses.
[e-gold-list] Re: Big Brother comes to GoldMoney
--- C. Cormier - Ormetal Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 7 Apr 2002, at 18:34, Ragnar wrote: You mean like the Branch Davidians over at Waco, Texas? Who is talking about violence. You can fight for your convictions legally and peacefully. But it is your opponent who decides what is legal. How can one fight legally if your fight (let's say not to license a gun or not to file an income tax return) involves something that is currently deemed illegal by your opponent? That makes no sense. Further, it was the government that initiated violence in my examples. Anonymity is not a dirty word. It is a legitimate claim to one's right to be let alone, and to be able to conduct one's business and express oneself without fear of retaliation by the majority in power. Aren't you confusing anonimity and privacy? I don't think so. Do you think that they are mutually exclusive? Retaliation happens only if you break the law. Strangely, all those who break the law wants to remain anonymous Why is that strange? A lot of injustices carried out by governments in the course of history have been legal at the time. Runaway slaves were breaking the law and wanted to remain anonymous. People helping them did not wish to be discovered. Chinese dissidents crave anonymity. The list goes on and on. Do you feel these law breakers are immoral? Would you force them to stand up and fight? Don't get me wrong. I believe, like the founding fathers, that there is a time and place for fighting for one's freedom. But it should not be on government's terms. That would be suicide. and very few who follow the law feel the need to maintain anonimity. You got the assumption right, I think. But you did not refute my reasons for supporting anonymity. Regards, Ragnar = Liberty Impact! Check out this free, hard-hitting weekly newsletter about privacy, liberty, offshore banking, tax avoidance digital currencies. http://www.libertyimpact.com __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Tax Center - online filing with TurboTax http://taxes.yahoo.com/ --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use e-gold's Secure Randomized Keyboard (SRK) when accessing your e-gold account(s) via the web and shopping cart interfaces to help thwart keystroke loggers and common viruses.
[e-gold-list] Re: e-ponzis?
Is this the extent of the e-gold economy? How did you run your queries? Here are some queries I ran on Google.com, back in January: Let's start with the obvious. Searched for: 1) (money e-gold) Results: 37,900 (Probably every page which mentions e-gold will mention 'money') 2) (web e-gold) Results: 32,600 Now, let's look for HYIPs: 3) (hyip e-gold) Results: 345 4) (investment e-gold) Results: 3,950 interesting... Now casinos: 5) (casino e-gold) Results: 3,160 6) (game e-gold) Results: 4,340 Web Hosting: 7) (web hosting e-gold) Results: 2,440 8) (hosting e-gold) Results: 13,700 Computer Related: 9) (hardware e-gold) Results: 1,870 10) (software e-gold) Results: 9,850 Now Shopping: 11) (shopping e-gold) Results: 6,130 12) (coins e-gold) Results 1,970 13) (crafts e-gold) Results: 606 14) (hobby e-gold) Results: 475 15) (auction e-gold) Results: 2,550 Books: 16) (books e-gold) Results: 8,690 17) (publishing e-gold) Results: 1,440 I think Computer related businesses, (including Web Hosting), may be the largest category. Craig --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use e-gold's Secure Randomized Keyboard (SRK) when accessing your e-gold account(s) via the web and shopping cart interfaces to help thwart keystroke loggers and common viruses.