[e-gold-list] Re: Trouble making spends

2002-12-05 Thread James M. Ray
At 5:27 PM +1100 1/4/03, Dan@SydneyGoldSales wrote:
Is anyone else having trouble making spends using e-Gold at the moment?

I keep getting the Try again in a few minutes message
...

I just did one and it went through fine (but it's 3:30 AM US
Eastern Standard time!).
JMR

e-metal® payment confirmation: Batch 10118960
Paid To: 9 (Ninth Amendment Foundation)
Amount: 1 grams of Gold
Memo: test
 
From:
101574 (Jim Ray's personal e-gold account)
Actual payment weight = 0.032151 oz. (1.00 grams)
Applicable Conversion factors:
1 oz. troy = 31.1034768 grams
Gold exchange rate = 321.70USD/oz.

The e-metal payment was successful.
Your batch number for confirmation is 10118960
Thank you for using e-gold.


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[e-gold-list] Re: Trouble making spends

2002-12-05 Thread thomaslknapp
On 4 Jan 2003, at 17:27, Dan@SydneyGoldSales wrote:

 Is anyone else having trouble making spends using e-Gold at the moment?
 
 I keep getting the Try again in a few minutes message and a lot of minutes
 have gone by.

Is it with regard to a particular account that you are spending to?

I've had problems making spends today to TheGoldCasino, but 
eventually was successful. There did not seem to be a reciprocal 
problem -- when I took my winnings home, everything went 
swimmingly.

Tom Knapp



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[e-gold-list] Re: BAD EXPERIENCE: EPILOGUE

2002-12-05 Thread AnyGoldNow \(SSL\)
Ian,

The process has been the following :
- Get the detailed information about the sender from Western Union's records
(that was like pulling teeth !)
- It appeared that funds indeed came from a Geronia Bowman.
However, the real phone number was 941-371-xx97 (was 371-7197 in the order)
- I called that number, and spoke with Geronia Bowman who answered the phone
- Asked if she had ordered e-gold from us
- She said : Ordered what ?
- I asked her is she had bought something on the internet and paid for it
via Western Union
- She said : Yes... a computer
- I asked her to email me what she had bought, and all possible details
about the Seller
- She did just that
- We are now returning Funds back to her
- We will press charges againts the would be fraudster at State  Federal
levels

Those who would like to contact her for additional information, please email
me in private as she emailed me the HTML description of the computer she was
supposed to buy from [EMAIL PROTECTED]

By the way, HER email is an AOL email addy...

I wish to take this opportunity to point out that at AnyGoldNow, we don't
just turn away suspect orders :
We ACTIVELY fight scam, as we believe it is the pleague of the Gold
community.
It is costly, and it is a dirty job (we have been flooded with virus attacks
of
all sorts since this thing started), but somebody's got to do it.

Also, in my communications with her, I couldn't resist asking if she really
expected to be
able to buy a (as described) Dell Inspiron 8200 P4-M 2.0GHz, 512MB
60 GB HARD DRIVE,CD-RW/DVD, 15 Ultra Sharp UXGA TFT Display, FACTORY SEALED
NOTEBOOKS, BRAND NEW, In Original Manufacturer BOXES, NOT REFURBISHED,
bundled with Windows XP Pro, MS Office XP Pro, Norton Antivirus 2002OEM...,
etc, etc...
by sending $ 1,460 (+$92 WU Fees) to some guy she had never heard about (me)
in France via Western Union ! (?!?)


Regards,

Patrick,
AnyGoldNow


 Congratulations, Patrick.
(...) maybe you should reveal more about how you verified that the real
payer
 did not intend to be purchasing e-gold for the requested account (but
rather
 purchasing a computer on eBay),

 The playing out of this scenario in public will hopefully serve to reduce
 the recurrence of this type of scam (as evidently many scammers read the
 e-gold list)!

 Regards,

 Ian Green


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[e-gold-list] Re: Where do I register domains with e-gold?

2002-12-05 Thread Andi LeDuc

The best privacy oriented domain registrar is at

http://www.alpina1.net

We accept e-gold and DM/ALTA payments, it can't get any more private!

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[e-gold-list] Re: Trouble making spends

2002-12-05 Thread jpm
Is anyone else having trouble making spends using e-Gold at the moment?

I keep getting the Try again in a few minutes message and a lot of minutes
have gone by.




it looks like their system has gone to hell!  hopefully it will come 
good soon


e-gold rocks ..
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[e-gold-list] this if ridiculous

2002-12-05 Thread jpm
Cannot confirm spend, the error is:
The system was unable to perform your request at this time, please 
try again in a few minutes.


come on dudes!


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[e-gold-list] Just a reminder

2002-12-05 Thread jpm
1mdcGrams always WORK, you can pay your employees, save, buy things, 
conduct business, do whatever.

1mdcGrams are never you have to try again later in 3 minutes.

1mdcGrams servers are slower than e-gold's but they always tick over.

Perhaps this is why many HIGH VALUE users of IG are moving to 
1mdcGrams.  If you have kilos or more of IG, move to 1mdcGrams like 
many others are.


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[e-gold-list] Re: BAD EXPERIENCE: PAYPAL

2002-12-05 Thread SnowDog
I do however have ALL the funds in my account, did not pay the scammer his
last payment so I still have a 33% profit on this deal. I do not like my
paypal to be blocked though.

Note that PayPal will reverse the ACH transactions to your bank account, as
well. To stop this, you need to go to your bank.

Craig



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[e-gold-list] Re: BAD EXPERIENCE: PAYPAL

2002-12-05 Thread Mark S. Ohberg
SnowDog wrote:

Note that PayPal will reverse the ACH transactions to your bank account, as well. To 
stop this, you need to go to your bank.

timely Advice Craig!

Also to stop your self from opening a pp account or to remind your self to sweep and 
close your pp account go here for details:
Pay Pal not accepted because:http://www.paypalwarning.com/

IMHO This business is still being run like a federal government, until a major auction 
concern runs it into the ground as normal std. operating procedure.  At the very least 
sweep
your acct. like hourly.

Kind Rgds.
Mark S. Öhberg
C.O.E.
K.I.A.C. Global Numismatics
 http://www.kiac-usa.com
New York
http://two-cents-worth.com/?107245EG



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[e-gold-list] Re: bullion coin buying price watch

2002-12-05 Thread Mark S. Ohberg
Tim Wood Wants to tell about how in

SAN FRANCISCO -- Crowne Gold is a private e-gold company that has
begun to market itself more aggressively to win market share. It is
difficult to differentiate financial product when the base is digital gold, 
but Crowne is managing to set itself apart with some interesting ideas.

The biggest objection to digital gold is that it is somewhat oxymoronic –
the purpose of buying bullion is in the security of possession. Otherwise,
you're just holding another proxy for the metal with significant risks.

Crowne has taken the unusual step of having coins produced by the Coeur
d’Elene mint, which you can have sent to you instead of holding the digital
version. That is not unique, but its a good complement to Crowne’s other
products – a Mastercard linked to your gold account and a portable
electronic wallet.

The Mastercard is another relatively straightforward idea that allows
account holders to treat their gold as cash. The catch is that the
fractional cost of owning a Mastercard disappears since the user pays a 
commission on each transaction. Likewise the portable electronic wallet, 
but it is a promising development in providing a workable person-to-person 
transaction system.

The wallet is really little more than a smart card reader not unlike those
proliferating among merchants as the major card issuers bed down the global
standards for smart cards. Ultimately, a cell phone is a good substitute
for a separate wallet since it is already a smart card reader, but it will
take a few more years before we saw wallet phones in widespread use.

Even before then, e-gold merchants have a hurdle to overcome in terms of
the conflicting messages consumers are receiving. The traditional approach
is that gold is a store of value; something to be packed away for a rainy
day or passed on to another generation. Yet e-gold companies cannot prosper
without refining that message.

They need velocity rather than stagnation, but that is, at face value,
antithetical to the traditional view of gold – you're not supposed to spend
your gold but to hoard it. There is no point hoarding gold in an electronic
form because you are exposed to the balance sheet risk of the service
provider and the constant threat of expropriation. Always take possession
if you feel obliged to own bullion; otherwise you are last in the creditors
queue when something goes wrong.

So the e-gold providers need gold to be money in the truest sense.
Something that buys everyday goods and services. The costs are far too high
still for people to feel comfortable with that. Consider that you lose 5%
of the value of your purchase from Crowne, plus another $1 per ounce, plus
delivery or storage fees. Indeed, the premium to actually take delivery is
prohibitive.

I like my Visa and Mastercard because they cost me next to nothing – the
merchant bears the transaction cost and storage is free to positive (unless
there's a negative balance). Of course, being cheap is a double edged
sword. When the dollar gets too cheap the benefits of its frictionlessness
become moot.

Crowne tries to reassure customers through monthly audits. However, one
feels uneasy – its a West Indies address and a company whose name is
unfamiliar. It is a declaration rather than a real audit proving ounces on
hand. There needs to be a sword of Damocles hanging over the auditor; this
does not give the impression of the type of consumer leverage required to
have absolute trust.

Trust remains the bug bear, e-gold needs a big, big balance sheet to give
customers comfort. Frankly, I hate the fact that most of the operations are
in tax havens. The reasons to do so are understandable, but…

Digital gold is a great idea, but it remains prohibitively expensive in so
many ways. To be money it must compete with money; the dollar is more
competitive. For now only?


http://two-cents-worth.com/?107245EG
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http://user.auctions.shopping.yahoo.com/show/auctions?userID=kiacnyusu=%3akiacnyus
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[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I have just now bought two (only two) bullion coins from Mark Ohberg
 and he charge me $332 while the spot price was $320.

 Also, I paid using internet gold, no problem.

 That is a pretty incredibly small mark up, I believe, on just two coins!

 Mark ... [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 If you don't have gold bullion in your hosue YOU NEED IT.

 JP!


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[e-gold-list] Re: bullion coin buying price watch

2002-12-05 Thread James M. Ray
At 12:40 PM -0500 12/5/02, Mark S. Ohberg wrote:
Tim Wood Wants to tell about how in

SAN FRANCISCO -- Crowne Gold is a private e-gold company  

...

I believe we have a new Jim-Ray's clueless-journalist award nominee!
JMR


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[e-gold-list] News about Nigerian scams

2002-12-05 Thread Alexis Golzman
I'm sure this will be of interest to you:

http://www.nigerianscams.org/SpecialAlert.htm

Regards,
Alexis.
http://alexisware.com

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[e-gold-list] Re: News about Nigerian scams

2002-12-05 Thread Patrick Chkoreff
At 12:57 PM 12/5/2002 -0500, Alexis Golzman wrote:

I'm sure this will be of interest to you:

http://www.nigerianscams.org/SpecialAlert.htm




One fine lady decided to mess with the scammers and wrote up the account at:

http://www.wendywillcox.50megs.com/


Pretty funny stuff.  Here's an excerpt from one of the emails she sent to 
the scammer:

From: Wendy
To: Timothy Mobutu Sese-seko
Subject: RE: Agreement

Yes, I can travel to Amsterdam if I need to. But you did not answer my 
question in regard to whether I need to travel to The Congo. I saw the 
movie Congo and it was very frightening. I would be afraid of the 
gorillas if I travelled there.


Wendy kept this fish on the line for a good long time, doing her part to 
stymie the forces of evil!

-- Patrick
http://fexl.com




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[e-gold-list] E-Silver for E-Gold

2002-12-05 Thread Ken L.
Hello, everyone!

I have about USD$75 of E-Silver that I would like to swap for E-Gold. 
Please contact me off-list.

Thanks!

- Ken

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[e-gold-list] Re: News about Nigerian scams

2002-12-05 Thread George Matyjewicz
At 01:06 PM 12/5/2002 -0500, Patrick Chkoreff wrote:

At 12:57 PM 12/5/2002 -0500, Alexis Golzman wrote:

I'm sure this will be of interest to you:

http://www.nigerianscams.org/SpecialAlert.htm


I've been dicking with these scammers, and, while it may not do anything, 
I'm having fun.  I started keeping a mailbox with all the scammers.  Each 
time I get one, I introduce the new one to everybody else on the scam list 
and redirect the scam message to all.  With Eudora, when I redirect it 
actually goes from the scammer, so if one replies to me, it actually goes 
to the scammer.

Here's the latest one I sent, which was in reply to a wonderful opportunity 
from Mrs. Eki Omorodion...

Mrs. Eki Omorodion, wife of  CHIEF JOSEPH OMORODION (Now Late), Royal Head 
JESSE (an oil rich town)in Nigeria meet Mr Joseph Okoli, Bank Manager of 
Orient Bank of Nigeria, Lagos Branch, Mr  David Makoju, Director of 
Engineering  Project of the National Electrical Power Authority (N.E.P.A.) 
in Lagos, Nigeria, MR. JOHNSON MOBUTU son of the late president of the 
Federal Republic of Zaire, President Mobutu Sese Seko, (now Republic of 
Congo, under the leadership of the son of Mr. Laurent Kabila), Mr.Simon 
Smith Jr, the son of Dr. Koninge Smith who was murdered few months ago in 
Zimbabwe as a result of land dispute, Dr. Musa Kasim,the Secretary of the 
Federal Government of Nigeria Contract Award and Monitoring Committee 
(CAMC) of the Nigerian Gas Company(NGC),  HELGA S., wife of VLAJKO 
STOJILJKOVIC, one of the  people indicted at the Hague War Crimes tibunal 
in  Hague,  Mr. George Kabila, brother of the Late President Laurent Kabila 
of the Democratic Republic of Congo, MRS. TINA U. KULU, widow of the late 
Col. Kulu T.OBI the former Governor of Kano State of Nigerian C/O Barrister 
Chike Egobia, MR.ALAIN GUEI,the son of late GENERAL ROBERT GUEI Ex-Military 
Head of State of Ivory coast, MR. KOTANGO WILLIAMS,  (MNIM), Mr. George 
Kabila, COL.EMMANUEL KOROMAH, Mr Samuel Samuel Jr., MR. DUKE 
JERRY,  Mr.ALLEN BENET, CAPT. JUBRIL  WAZIRI, Mrs. Victoria Rinma, Mr. Tony 
Coker, MRS. MARIAM SESE-SEKO, Mr. FRANK NKULU, Blessing Agbor, Kayode 
Coker, Mr. Macculey Sisolo, MR.DAVIES DURRAND, WILSON NOSA,Dr. Francis 
Antonie, BAYERO GUEI, james bagora, CHIEF MRS SARAH SWARADEN MOMOH, Dr. 
Mike Lutuli,  DR.PATRICK KOFI, MR. LARRY SMITH, Mr. Bello Sese Seko, 
DR.Paul Adeishola, FRANCIS FAVOUR, DR.REGINALD AKU, STEPHEN 
ISEAYA,  MOHAMMED  ABACHA, ABBA ABACHA (perhaps y'all are related?), MR. 
MUSA BELLO,  COL PATRICK IWU (RTD), MR. MUSA BELLO,  PHILIPS  AJAYI(ESQ)., 
Femi Lekwas,  Mr. Willy Sankoh,  MR KENNETH EZE, MR.JOHN AMUGO 
HAWAGU,  Ahmed Kabila, Barrister Danjuma Sule,  Bello Sese Seko, CHARLES 
MBEBE,  David Karefa Smart, Flevian Koukou, John Hawagu, Johnson, MR. 
COLLINS ABUA, MR. TIM SISOLO,  Mr.Bello Sese Seko,  Mr.Philip 
Thobela,  MR.ZOMBAR GERRAND and UWA BUNMI

This exclusive club of wonderful opportunities is growing!.  Perhaps y'all 
can dick around with each other.  Some of these folks sent multiple 
offers.  Many doctors and barristers, so it must be legal.   Best as I can 
calculate there is probably USD $1 billion here!  Have fun

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[e-gold-list] Re: bullion coin buying price watch

2002-12-05 Thread jpm
SAN FRANCISCO -- Crowne Gold is a private e-gold company


hilarious.

You know what, e-gold could become like aspirin ... it could 
become a generic word that you lose the trademark/copyright to.

madness ...


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[e-gold-list] this is fucking insane

2002-12-05 Thread jpm
When will egold be working again, does anyone know?


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[e-gold-list] Re: Trouble making spends

2002-12-05 Thread Patrick Chkoreff
At 05:27 PM 1/4/2003 +1100, Dan@SydneyGoldSales wrote:

Is anyone else having trouble making spends using e-Gold at the moment?

I keep getting the Try again in a few minutes message and a lot of minutes
have gone by.


Gosh, I just made a spends at 22:28 and 22:38 GMT (05-Dec-02) with no 
problem whatsoever.

-- Patrick
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[e-gold-list] Re: this is fucking insane

2002-12-05 Thread thomaslknapp
On 6 Dec 2002, at 10:05, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 When will egold be working again, does anyone know?

It appears to be working, just intermittently.

Since I'm not a frequent user, i.e. gazillions of transactions a day, 
it's only an annoyance to me. To people who rely on e-gold for 
substantial commerce, I suspect it is getting very old very quickly.

Today, it seemed to work the opposite as well, in as well as out. 
Funded my TheGoldCasino account, after several tries (try again 
in a few minutes), but they couldn't get my winnings (yes, Jim, I 
won again -- didn't double my stake this time, though, I TRIPLED it) 
back to my e-gold account. I'll be trying again shortly.

Not that I don't trust TheGoldCasino, mind you (I've never had a bad 
experience there, even on the rare occasions when I've lost), but I 
like my gold all in one place, preferably GSR's vaults, when I'm 
not using it. Especially my casino winnings. I might get tempted to 
break my own rule about  not breaking into the original stake once 
I've doubled it.

This suggests that the problem may not centered on particular 
accounts, since the spends were problematic in BOTH directions.

And now, I think I'll plug MY TheGoldCasino referral link (they pay 
out gold when people come and play through referral links -- not 
based on win or loss, either, but on number of hands played):

http://3657147.thegoldcasino.com

For what it's worth, they also give away a monthly door prize. 
You generate drawing entries by playing (once again, based on 
how much you play, not how much you win or lose or the amount 
of your bets). This month, the prize is 50 DVDs of your choice and 
a player.

I never thought I liked online casinos until I played at 
TheGoldCasino, but it's a ripping good time. Especially when I win.

Regards,
Tom Knapp




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[e-gold-list] E-GOLD AND FRAUD : FIVE defrauding scam escrow websites

2002-12-05 Thread Patrick Verbeeck
Take a look at these 

defrauding scams escrow websites

I am curious how many months will pass until someone
will bring them down...

01
www.escrow-set.com

02
www.escrow-int.com

03
www.trade-secure.com

04
www.radical-escrow.net

05
www.premier-escrow.com


Good luck on your indiference about the world that
surrounds us ! Let the russians defraud everyone !

Patrick

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