[e-gold-list] RE: International Wires
> As regarding SWIFT, in our experience, our primary NZ bank doesn't > use it! At least, they never ask us for the SWIFT code. this doesn't mean they don't send international wires via SWIFT. Finding out SWIFT code for a bank is not very complicated - http://www.swift.com/biconline/ Sincerely, Paul Vahur General Manager IceGold | http://www.icegold.com --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use e-gold's Secure Randomized Keyboard (SRK) when accessing your e-gold account(s) via the web and shopping cart interfaces to help thwart keystroke loggers and common viruses.
[e-gold-list] HyperWALLET AND CREDIT CARD ACCEPTED FOR GOLD
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[e-gold-list] No Audit
>When was the last time e-gold reserves have been audited by a third >party? >Francois Michaud Never. Sidd I thought they did a few years a go. I believe this is an unacceptable practice. I am publicly asking you e-gold the reasons why you do not have at a bare minimum an annual audit. It is beyond me why you are reluctant to do so, unless of course there is something to hide. If not then don't you realize you are jeopardizing a successful franchise just by raising the doubt. You enjoy not a monopoly but let's say you're the Microsoft of GBC's :-). e-gold, because of it's predominance is cheaper to use/exchange/move around in time and expenses...a great plus but don't just sit on your assets (no pun) go the next step and give us piece of mind. Will we have to move over to Crown Gold (monthly audit) in order for you to understand the necessacity and urgency. The GBC's will never break into the next level of growth if strong accountability is not implemented, it's that simple. I am doing more and more business in GBC's (e-gold mostly) but I am growing nervous the larger the amounts get. I have a fiduciary duty to protect our assets and it is un-acceptable to me not having a third party examining OUR holdings held in YOUR(egold) name. The live examiner is NOT proof of accountability. I have been a long term user of e-gold, almost since inception. I have patiently waited to see if these audits would ever come. It looks like it is not, unless I have miss something. On another note, 3-4 months before Osgold collapsed I started pressing them for proof of backing. Of course after a first "canned" response (they pasted what was on their site) they never replied to me on following emails. So I converted all my OSGold before the collapse and publicly warned my friend/associate to do the same. I am not trying to be smart here but to show that we the users have also our share of responsibilities in not accepting risk that can be easily avoided (my investment background here :-). I do not believe in sitting around and waiting for things to happen. Lets see the response from e-gold and your comments folks before elaborating further but again don't you think that we should NOT tolerate this laxity? Francois Michaud Principal & CIO Righthedge Investments, LLC www.righthedge.com --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use e-gold's Secure Randomized Keyboard (SRK) when accessing your e-gold account(s) via the web and shopping cart interfaces to help thwart keystroke loggers and common viruses.
[e-gold-list] New to E-Gold - a question
hello! new to e-gold, set up an account in prep for some services that will be paid to me by way of e-gold.. my simple question (hope it has a simple answer) Is, when i recive payment in e-gold, what is the most hassle free way to liquidate it into cold, hard cash? Thanks for the help! -- KH -- --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use e-gold's Secure Randomized Keyboard (SRK) when accessing your e-gold account(s) via the web and shopping cart interfaces to help thwart keystroke loggers and common viruses.
[e-gold-list] Re: New to E-Gold - a question
> hello! new to e-gold, set up an account in prep for some services that will > be paid to me by way of e-gold.. > > my simple question (hope it has a simple answer) Is, when i recive payment > in e-gold, what is the most hassle free way to liquidate it into cold, hard > cash? > > Thanks for the help! > > -- > KH > -- a bank wire transfer.it takes 2 business days and it's cheap. --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use e-gold's Secure Randomized Keyboard (SRK) when accessing your e-gold account(s) via the web and shopping cart interfaces to help thwart keystroke loggers and common viruses.
[e-gold-list] New Ultra Fast Loading Gold Price Charts!
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[e-gold-list] RE: e-gold-list digest: January 25, 2003
so if e-gold has never had an audit then what is the difference between them and fiat paper money? Gordon www.katzglobal.com --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use e-gold's Secure Randomized Keyboard (SRK) when accessing your e-gold account(s) via the web and shopping cart interfaces to help thwart keystroke loggers and common viruses.
[e-gold-list] CashCards Top 5 Problems
Hi everyone! I am a member of CashCards since December 2002. I want to ask everyone if it happens to you the same: 1. I cannot login... the login page usually does not load. 2. This is most important problem: I transferred them from e-Gold to VCash 150 USD. Still, after 48 hours, my VCash account was not funded. What the hell is going on, are we in Pre-historical age? Why so slow, mr. Steve? 3.I am constantly wondering how can they keep such an UGLY interface, and why they don't update at least once in 2 years their FAQ page, which is still "Coming Soon..." What it takes for Steve to move his cute little a s s and do some changes in the horror design (I think they have the worst webdesigners since gitgold to our times... or no webdesigners at all...) 4.It is not clear to me how much will I be charged to transfer my e-gold onto the cashcard... 1%? 3%? 5%? 2%+2%? It doesn't write clearly anywhere... and the FAQ page is inexistant. 5.What a customer support they have. It is so bright it lacks completely! I see nowhere a phone number or at least an e-mail address where these guys from CashCards they can be contacted! 6.I hope they will be not so lazy and they will move and do things better!!! The 5,000 customers they have deserve a lot better Sincerely yours With respect Bruno _ WORLDWORX: http://www.worldworx.net/ --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use e-gold's Secure Randomized Keyboard (SRK) when accessing your e-gold account(s) via the web and shopping cart interfaces to help thwart keystroke loggers and common viruses.
[e-gold-list] Re: CashCards Top 5 Problems
Hello Bruno You forgot about the absolute nonsense regarding you can fund you CashCards egold with egold, your VCash with eGold and your eGold with VCash and they charge 2% for every exchange when in fact is exactly the same thing !!! only your 1000 USD become 980 USD and then 960 USD and then... But they dont actually do not do anything, only let you wait, and charge fees for your wait !!!. And you have 3 account numbers with them (one for your membership and another one your egold number and yet another one your FreeCash account number... Why not a 4th account number: a VCash account number? or it already exists and I missed it? What a fool I am) A, and let's not forget their 3 passwords system: one for login, one for verifying you and a PIN number for your VCash account. And yes, you're right, they're completely bullshit "Coming Soon" everything... I wonder how they fooled this 5,000 customers they have into joining... Cheers everyone! Saul PS Please combat my ideas, tell me what you think. Especially you Steve, lazy butt ;):):D __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use e-gold's Secure Randomized Keyboard (SRK) when accessing your e-gold account(s) via the web and shopping cart interfaces to help thwart keystroke loggers and common viruses.
[e-gold-list] article about gold
http://moneycentral.msn.com/content/P39949.asp Doesn't mention e-gold, but they've noticed that the price was going up recently. JMR --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use e-gold's Secure Randomized Keyboard (SRK) when accessing your e-gold account(s) via the web and shopping cart interfaces to help thwart keystroke loggers and common viruses.
[e-gold-list] Re: article about gold
On Thursday, January 30, 2003, at 10:39 AM, James M. Ray wrote: http://moneycentral.msn.com/content/P39949.asp Doesn't mention e-gold, but they've noticed that the price was going up recently. JMR Funny quote: These are the sort of folks who demand high levels of intrinsic value when they buy shares of public companies, but are willing to embrace ownership of a clod of yellowish ore that has no real intrinsic value at all. Uh yes, you philistine clod, it's called "money." No, you can't eat money, but you can buy food with it. You can even buy your precious sacred green Fed paper with it, and a lot more of it if this trend keeps up. I guess that stuff has "intrinsic value," huh? -- Patrick http://fexl.com --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use e-gold's Secure Randomized Keyboard (SRK) when accessing your e-gold account(s) via the web and shopping cart interfaces to help thwart keystroke loggers and common viruses.
[e-gold-list] Re: e-gold audit
: so if e-gold has never had an audit then what is the difference between : them and fiat paper money? : : Gordon : www.katzglobal.com : e-gold claim to have gold backing their currency, and there is some evidence to suggest they do... fiat currency does not make any similar claims. Sidd. --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use e-gold's Secure Randomized Keyboard (SRK) when accessing your e-gold account(s) via the web and shopping cart interfaces to help thwart keystroke loggers and common viruses.
[e-gold-list] CashCards again, until someone replies with answers. Account still not funded after 72 Hours! :(
Hi My VCash account is still not funded after 72 Hours! 72 hours ago I sent them 150 USD from my e-gold! Does anyone on this list use VCash and CashCards? Are they alsways this slow? Is their website always so full of bugs and BROKEN LINKS? Please help! Bruno _ WORLDWORX: http://www.worldworx.net/ --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use e-gold's Secure Randomized Keyboard (SRK) when accessing your e-gold account(s) via the web and shopping cart interfaces to help thwart keystroke loggers and common viruses.
[e-gold-list] FreeTraders - International Free Trade
FreeTraders is a revolutionary new trading & barter service enabling members to exchange goods, services, gold, and currencies. There are no fees for trades. Goods are priced in gold using live rates. Gold transactions are processed for e-gold or gold money. FreeTraders ia a service of International Order of Freedom, a non-profit religious order offering members protection from government intervention, regulation or taxation. The service is operating at http://www.freetraders.org. Trade Your Goods & Services. Join Today! --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use e-gold's Secure Randomized Keyboard (SRK) when accessing your e-gold account(s) via the web and shopping cart interfaces to help thwart keystroke loggers and common viruses.
[e-gold-list] e-gold to Goldmoney is FREE
Until further notice, exchange from e-gold to GoldMoney is FREE* at http://metal-escrow.com/c_c.cfm So if you have e-gold, and you want GoldMoney, go to http://metal-escrow.com/c_c.cfm and give it a try... Exchanges are INSTANT!! Regards, Sidd. *The relevant DGC spend fees still apply --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use e-gold's Secure Randomized Keyboard (SRK) when accessing your e-gold account(s) via the web and shopping cart interfaces to help thwart keystroke loggers and common viruses.
[e-gold-list] Re: CashCards Top 5 Problems
[1] If it works, why fix it? Many people don't particularly surf the web to look at nice graphics and I for one prefer tv or video for movies and entertainment. [2] If everything they have is so horrible, why do you deal with them? Doing business with someone is a sign of mutual respect and trust. Badmouthing them in public is a sign of a lack of style. [3] Maybe they have an English sense of humour and are doing their best to proof you right? Meaning, the more you comlain about them, the longer you'll wait for your card to be funded :o) Sorry, but I couldn't help myself but had to defend someone I don't even know, because you repeated bitching about doesn't seem to get you anywhere whicle at the same time putting down the industry as a whole. Why don't you (a) grow up; (b) get a life; (c) find someone else to bitch to; (d) leave the grown-ups to do some business? Heavens you are running after $150? Your pocket money for January was it? Cheers, RSZ --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use e-gold's Secure Randomized Keyboard (SRK) when accessing your e-gold account(s) via the web and shopping cart interfaces to help thwart keystroke loggers and common viruses.
[e-gold-list] Re: CashCards Top 5 Problems
"... I wonder how they fooled this 5,000 customers they have into joining..." Well, you must know, right? Cheers, RSZ --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use e-gold's Secure Randomized Keyboard (SRK) when accessing your e-gold account(s) via the web and shopping cart interfaces to help thwart keystroke loggers and common viruses.
[e-gold-list] Re: New to E-Gold - a question
US$ or EUro Cheque, takes 4-5 days and is even cheaper. www.cyfrocash.com --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use e-gold's Secure Randomized Keyboard (SRK) when accessing your e-gold account(s) via the web and shopping cart interfaces to help thwart keystroke loggers and common viruses.
[e-gold-list] Re: DNS samples
Glad that we could give a deal you are happy with. I do recall that you had a rather unusual request. We usually use 'special dates' to offer budget deals when there is some leftover space on a server [we generally only host 200 sites per machine and if a machine has 180 on it and it happens to be Christmas or something...]. Actually the thingy with DNS fluids is an old hoster/admin joke [despite the fact that the juice really exists as well] from the time when IP addressing got the domain name system plugged on top and involves female relations, bad wiring and poorly written code. I'll search for it an email it to you if I find it - or someone that recalls the whole joke. Cheers, Robert. --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use e-gold's Secure Randomized Keyboard (SRK) when accessing your e-gold account(s) via the web and shopping cart interfaces to help thwart keystroke loggers and common viruses.
[e-gold-list] digested some more
Dear Friends, A correspondent asks about the significance of the ratio between the price per ounce of gold and the Dow Jones Industrial average. My answer is brief: the Dow:Au ratio prices the Dow in gold, which is very different from pricing it in dollars. While dollars inflate, gold remains very stable. One of the interesting observations from the 20th Century is that every time there is a secular bear market, the Dow:Au ratio resets to 1:1 before the Dow heads for new higher ground. I have looked at figures for this ratio, and I believe it re-set to 1:1 (an ounce of gold's dollar price equals the dollar price of the Dow) a total of five times in the 20th Century. I believe USA stocks have another 40% or so of value to give up in the next twelve to eighteen months. If gold's value is to equal the Dow at that point, we're talking a $4800 per ounce price of gold. Of course, the Dow could head further down from there, so gold might not be ready to meet it for a while. Dow:Au is today closer to 21.6. Jim Ray posts: http://biz.yahoo.com/rm/030128/minerals_china_gold_1.html What is interesting to me, here, is that selling six million dollars worth of gold has a substantial price effect on China's market price. I'm not impressed with their idea of a market, where buying gold from outside the country to sell is considered illegal. Kudos to Marco of PayByGold for identifying the scamsters trying to boost funds from a charity. Thanks Marco! Keep up the good work. Andi LeDuc reports having received a very odd message. I got it, too. My copy came from "infonex.com" which is owned by Anonymizer. Infonex got the message from cyberpass.net which is also owned by Anonymizer. The "Swiss" gentleman says about his business: About my business, it is to find investments for *large* amounts, from $50M. Oil, sugar, steal sometimes, etc. We may be glad they "steal sometimes" but not all the time. and some nice surprises for some other market-makers. Okay. www.eurogoldscam.com I haven't looked at the other registrations, but this one is registered to a "Marc Mangione." At first I just figured it was a Chuck Mangione fan, but I went to Google and there turns out to be a 13-year-old from Buffalo (goes to Depew Middle School) with that name, who was able to work an algebra problem and got his name posted to a web site. Since the young man from Buffalo probably doesn't know what "poste restante" means or what interesting things might be found at 1 rue du Louvre in Paris, or whether Paris has postal codes like 75002, I'm guessing it is a different Marc Mangione, or that's a made up name. Anyway, zuc will have been sent to hell ! Appears to be a death threat. Tough beans, Frank. So, being a curious sort, and having been promised that exchange providers might get something from the exercise, I went to the above mentioned URL, eurogoldscam.com. There, I found a link pointing to a page hosted at narod.ru which is owned by Yandex Technologies, and that seems to include: Alexey Tretyakov, VLADIMIR L IVANOV and MIKHAIL A. FADEEV (to quote the domain registrar). It also strongly points to Russian rather than Swiss "investors". This link, by the way, is a .jpg of Frank's USA passport. The passport fingers Frank as an Austrian who had his passport renewed in Barcelona, Spain in December 1996. His associate deBedts is apparently Belgian. The "meat" of the site including "copies of e-mails" seems to link to 404 "not found" if my Russian language skills are any good. This suggests that Yandex is a web hosting company of some sort. [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: So,ANYGOLDNOW AND EUROGOLDLINE are the Osgold scammers ! I've met Patrick Verbeek of AnyGoldNow. He comported himself as a gentleman would. I have no information that he is affiliated with EuroGoldLine or does any business with Frank ZuChristian. Moreover, I believe that AnyGoldNow arrived with much fanfare (and griping from GoldNow.st) much after the OSGold situation was at its terminus. Of course, AnyGoldNow is certainly in Europe, which I guess is a pretty strong indictment. I mean, Europe, EuroGoldLine, you can see where the confusion comes in. Seriously, though, Zuchristian appears to be an American running an exchange service from Holland, whereas Patrick is French and runs his exchange service from France. Regards, Jim http://cambist.net/ --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use e-gold's Secure Randomized Keyboard (SRK) when accessing your e-gold account(s) via the web and shopping cart interfaces to help thwart keystroke loggers and common viruses.