[e-gold-list] re: Funding

2003-03-17 Thread Adam Selene
> Yes we offer walk in service and personal service in Austria and Belize.

 Dear Prominence Bank,

 I am very interested in your services. If you wouldn't mind posting the
name
of your institution in Belize, I will gladly make a telephone call in the
morning and verify your good standing.

 Financial Sector Supervision Department
Central Bank of Belize
 Tel: 501-2-77216
 Fax: 501-2-76113

 I look forward to doing business with you.

 Adam





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[e-gold-list] re: Funding

2003-03-17 Thread Robert S.Z.
> Interestingly, both Jacquelyn and Prominence Bank are posting from
> the web based listserv page (while everyone else posting seems to
> be doing so from their own local mailer clients).
> 
Well, that could actually be a tech issue or simple convenience. I prefer
posting from the listserv as well. This way I can scan the subjects, read
what I'm interested in and then simply hit reply, rather than getting
loads of mails and inadvertedly missing interesting discussions due to
hasty deletions ;o)

Cheers,
R.S.Z.
www.cyberica.net
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[e-gold-list] some particulars

2003-03-17 Thread Jim Davidson
Dear Friends,

Prominence Bank writes to say:
it looks as if there are a lot of competitors that
are unable to offer decent service so they are critical
with those that can.
Isn't that interesting?  I have been a very happy
customer of IceGold, which Paul Vahur works for.  I've
met Paul in person in Las Vegas at the Foundation
for Economic Education Festival in May 2002.  He seems
like a good guy.
Yes our internet service is new but we have been
around for over 14 years.
That's fascinating, since the domain name is new
in February 2003.  I'm curious why a bank with
200 personnel and presence in three countries
would avoid having Internet presence from 1989 to
2003.  I recall sending my first e-mail in 1978.
One can hunt up posts to sci.space newsgroup on
the archive sites which include my ancient (1983
vintage) MCI Mail account.  I just want to say
"golly." 
we are virtually open 24 hours a day (m-f).
Cambist.net is not open 24 hours a day.  We do
offer service most days of the week, but even
Homer nodded.
Secondly it should never take longer then this anyway.
Some exchanges take longer than others.  Certainly,
due diligence takes time.  I'm amused by the
thought of a big, 14-year-old bank with offices
on three continents providing exchange services
for e-gold and evoCash without doing any of the
traditional "know your customer" stuff that banks
have gained notoriety by fixating upon.
Yes our service fees are low, why is this a problem?
If one takes e-gold and performs no exchang, then
one can offer a very low fee.
Paul Vahur writes:
I know that when Jim Davidson's speaks up on matters
like this, he does quite thorough research on the matter.
Thanks Paul!

Prominence sez:
Our bank licenses are in the Netherlands, Austria and
Belize.
That's fascinating.

We are certainly not going to list off our reg names
and address on this forum.
  Cambist.net Exchange Service
  5300 N. Braeswood, Suite 394
  Houston, Texas  77096
Come on by and set a spell.

We do not work on a loss as our transfer service is
only a very small part of our business.
Apparently it is the less prominent part. 

Unlike most of the exchange services which or often run
by a one man team we are an established network and
as a result we are able to offer lower fees with better
service.
I find this notion strange.  I learned in business
school that a company has to provide for contribution
to overhead and profit.  If overhead includes 200
staff, that would be harder to handle than if overhead
included only 3 staff.
One can learn more about the individuals involved in
Cambist.net by visiting
 http://goldbarterholdings.com/principals.cgi
I wonder where one might go to see details on the
people behind Prominence Bank?
Actually we not sure why you decided to attack us now.
I'll say that I have decided to comment upon your
claims in an attempt to help the community of e-gold
forum readers evaluate whether they wish to have their
exchanges performed by you.  I do stuff like that, as
part of the process of getting across the concept that
Cambist.net is part of the digital gold scene, we are
here to stay (I've had an e-gold account since 1998)
and we're eager to create long term relationships
with our customers and competitors.
We have been advertising on this forum since we
started accepting e-gold and evocash and there has
never been a bad comment against us here or anywhere
else.
Due diligence takes time.  Which, you would know, if you
were a banker for 14 years.
Jim Ray, who moderates the e-gold discussion list
points out:
around here this [refusal to provide an address]
constitutes an *enormous* red-flag.
Nick of e-Fidex is someone I know and trust.  I
think we've done some pretty good business together
in the past.  I have one of Nick's Maestro cards in
my wallet, for fun and profit.
Nick writes:
I personally know all 7 offshore banks licensed in
Belize. And Prominence Bank is not one of them. Taken
at face value, therefore, the claim to be licensed in
Belize must be fraudulent.
Well, there it is, folks.  Nobody asked Prominence
Bank to come here and claim to be licensed in Belize.
They done it all by themselves.
As a result, I am persuaded not to take at face value
the option of converting e-gold to dollars using
Prominence Bank's offer of 1%.  Keep in mind that if
such an offer were really true, I'd be interested in
using such a service from time to time.  So might
Cambist.net.
I admit that I haven't paid the international long
distance fees to phone up the Belize Central Bank
because I find Nick to be a steadfast fellow.
Prominence Bank claims:
We do not need to prove ourselves on this forum
I find that...bizarre.  Why post claims on this
forum if you don't respect the readers enough to
validate the claims you make?
Jacquelyn Becker posts, ostensibly from
[EMAIL PROTECTED] which looks like a
throw-away Yahoo e-mail address, that she's a happy
customer of Prominence Bank.
"She" writes:
Anyway, I just though I should put my two cents in
here as i

[e-gold-list] re: Funding

2003-03-17 Thread Robert S.Z.
I'm the guy who usually defends friends and otherwise keeps his opinion to
himself. But one statement just got me to jump in...
> 
> Yes we offer walk in service and personal service in Austria and Belize.
> Additionally we are currently setting up a bank license in Asia and will
> offer walk in service in HK and BKK.
> 
You are opening a licensed retail branch in Bangkok, Thailand? So you
bought out a local Thai bank with assets of not less than $250,000,000,
did you?

Thjat would then be Thai Farmer Bank - naw ABN AMRO got that... H, The
Thai Military Bank? I didn't know it was for sale?

Now, let's say you are planning to open an agency rather than an actual
bank. Instead of laying a trap for you, as I normally would, sicko that I
am, I'll outright say that you'd be between a rock and a hard place.
Thailand has foreign remittance controls in place. I have troubles to get
my Thai customers to send money for hosting overseas, let alone for e-gold
purchases. Also, it is illegal for Thai nationals to hold foreign
accounts...

Let's leave it at that. Maybe you were actually dealing with Thai partners
who are planning to rip you off. But take it from me, if you are doing the
type of busines you are claiming to do in Thailand, then you are looking
for trouble.

Sorry, mate, but you have to consider that the internet is an
international thingy. So when telling stories here, you are risking that a
'local' comments on it.

Cheers,
R.S.Z.
www.cyberica.net
www.u2planet.com




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[e-gold-list] Re: e-gold hit by terrorists?

2003-03-17 Thread Patrick Chkoreff
On Monday, March 17, 2003, at 07:52 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

e-gold is down just now?
Back up!  Jim Ray personally overpowered several Al Qaeda and restored 
the servers.  :-)

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[e-gold-list] e-gold hit by terrorists?

2003-03-17 Thread jpm
e-gold is down just now?

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[e-gold-list] prominencebank.com

2003-03-17 Thread maximus . holding
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IP address: 64.177.244.52
Host name: prominencebank.com

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Domain registry query for prominencebank.com:

Whois Server Version 1.3

Domain names in the .com and .net domains can now be registered
with many different competing registrars. Go to http://www.internic.net
for detailed information.

   Domain Name: PROMINENCEBANK.COM
   Registrar: TUCOWS, INC.
   Whois Server: whois.opensrs.net
   Referral URL: http://www.opensrs.org
   Name Server: NS.THE-WEB-HOST.COM
   Name Server: NS2.THE-WEB-HOST.COM
   Status: ACTIVE
   Updated Date: 08-mar-2003
   Creation Date: 19-feb-2003
   Expiration Date: 19-feb-2004


>>> Last update of whois database: Mon, 17 Mar 2003 05:48:18 EST
 <<<




WHOIS whois.opensrs.net prominencebank.com:

Registrant:
 Prominence Banking and Prepaid Card Service Co. Ltd
 Lange Voorhout 24
 The Hauge, Den Haag 2514 EG
 NL

 Domain name: PROMINENCEBANK.COM

 Administrative Contact:
Johnson, Mike  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Lange Voorhout 24
The Hauge, Den Haag 2514 EG
NL
44-870-011-9075
 Technical Contact:
Johnson, Mike  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Lange Voorhout 24
The Hauge, Den Haag 2514 EG
NL
44-870-011-9075


 Registrar of Record: TUCOWS, INC.
 Record last updated on 08-Mar-2003.
 Record expires on 19-Feb-2004.
 Record Created on 19-Feb-2003.

 Domain servers in listed order:
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NS2.THE-WEB-HOST.COM   216.147.1.135





DNS Records for prominencebank.com:

NameServer used for query: ns.the-web-host.com



Answer records 
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exchange: mail.prominencebank.com 
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prominencebank.com 1 SOA server: ns.the-web-host.com 
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Authority records 

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DNS Records for prominencebank.com


query from dns.consumer.net to get an authoritative nameserver

NameServer used for query: ns.the-web-host.com



Answer records 
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exchange: mail.prominencebank.com 
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prominencebank.com 1 A 64.177.244.52 86400s 
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serial: 200306610 
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ns.the-web-host.com 1 A 216.147.43.175 86400s 
ns2.the-web-host.com 1 A 216.147.1.135 86400s 


Network IP address lookup:

whois whois.arin.net 64.177.244.52:



OrgName:Alabanza, Inc. 
OrgID:  ALAB
Address:10 E. Baltimore St. Suite 1300
City:   Baltimore
StateProv:  MD
PostalCode: 21244
Country:US

NetRange:   64.176.0.0 - 64.177.255.255 
CIDR:   64.176.0.0/15 
NetName:ALABANZA-BALT-4
NetHandle:  NET-64-176-0-0-1
Parent: NET-64-0-0-0-0
NetType:Direct Allocation
NameServer: NS.ALABANZA.COM
NameServer: NS2.ALABANZA.COM
Comment:ADDRESSES WITHIN THIS BLOCK ARE NON-PORTABLE
RegDate:2000-06-08
Updated:2000-10-06

TechHandle: TC12-ARIN
TechName:   Cunningham, Thomas 
TechPhone:  +1-410-779-1400
TechEmail:  [EMAIL PROTECTED] 

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[e-gold-list] Re: E-Gold Scam Alert.. Yet another one !!

2003-03-17 Thread Corwind
They are also trying to get Commonwealth Bank of Australia account
details. The ISP where the IP is hosted does NOT want complaints about
this IP listing. They dont seem to care that they have a scammer on them.
I got two emails, to two seperate email accounts, both from Roger.com
IP's, both open proxies. If you get one of these emails, dont touch it,
delete it or report it as spam.

If you are wanting to go at the hosting company, here are there details:

[EMAIL PROTECTED] 

OrgName:3DWizards 
OrgID:  3DW
Address:6810 New Tampa Hwy
City:   Lakeland
StateProv:  FL
PostalCode: 33815
Country:US

NetRange:   64.46.96.0 - 64.46.127.255 
CIDR:   64.46.96.0/19 
NetName:DATACOLO-BLK-1
NetHandle:  NET-64-46-96-0-1
Parent: NET-64-0-0-0-0
NetType:Direct Allocation
NameServer: DNS1.DATACOLO.COM
NameServer: DNS2.DATACOLO.COM
Comment:ADDRESSES WITHIN THIS BLOCK ARE NON-PORTABLE
RegDate:2001-05-14
Updated:2001-12-20

TechHandle: ZD58-ARIN
TechName:   DataColo 
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[e-gold-list] Islamic Countries switching to Real GOLD Money !

2003-03-17 Thread Paul LeBreton
Password:  
Subject: Islamic Countries switching to Real GOLD Money !



Islamic gold dinar will minimize dependency on US dollar 2003-01-08
13:48:14

By Khaled Hanafi for IslamOnline
8 January 2003
Malaysia will start using the Islamic gold dinar starting mid 2003 in
its foreign trade section with some countries replacing the U.S. dollar
in a first step move toward unifying the currency used in commercial
dealings between Islamic countries.
The success of this idea, according to several western newspapers, may
lead to minimizing the U.S. dollar hegemony as an intermediate tool in
commercial dealings in the world.
The idea was adopted by Malaysian Prime Minister Mahathir Mohamad who
conducted bilateral talks during the year 2002 with several Islamic
countries, including Bahrain, Libya, Morocco and Iran, to convince them
of using the Islamic dinar as a way of payment in their commercial
dealings with Malaysia.
This move is considered from one side a way to recall a currency related
to the history of Muslims and their monetary heritage since the time of
Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him), and from the other side, the
ability to find the Islamic alternative to the dollar at a time the
calls to boycott all what is labelled as American starting from goods to
currency, are intensified.
The idea of the Islamic gold dinar belongs to Professor Omar Ibrahim
Fadillo, founder of the Morabeteen International Organization founded in
1983 in South Africa where it is widely known as well as in Europe. The
organization believes that the unity of the Islamic world can not be
achieved except through the unification on the economic level. It also
calls for the establishment of a united Islamic market using one
currency which is the gold Islamic dinar used by the Morabeteen members,
hoping it will replace the U.S. dollar.
"The idea of the Islamic gold dinar aims at minimizing the hegemony of
the U.S. dollar and to use the gold once again as an international
currency because the value of the paper currencies is in continuous
fluctuation unlike the stable gold currency which preserve its value
through the value of the metal itself.
The system is built on the idea that the Islamic governments keep the
gold in a central bank and use it in settling their commercial dealings
instead of depending on foreign fund markets and foreign financial
corporations.
The first Islamic gold dinar, equivalent to 4.25 grams of 22-karat gold,
was issued in 1992 on a very limited scale between the member of the
Morabeteen.
In 1997, the idea developed to be implemented into an exchange framework
through launching what was called the electronic dinar, a system based
on using the gold as fund through transactions made on the internet.
According to the e-dinar limited company based in the Malaysian island
of Lapoine, electronic transactions using the gold Islamic dinar have
currently reached what is equivalent to 4 tons of gold and that the
users are increasing at a rate of 10% monthly.
The number of users through the electronic dinar website
www.e-dinar.com, launched in 1999 after 7 years of issuing the Islamic
gold dinar, reached 600,000 and that number is increasing, the company
announced.
Several countries around the world are currently dealing directly with
100,000 Islamic gold dinars and 250,000 silver dirhams issued by the
company, hoping that one day it will replace the U.S. dollar in the
dealings of the 1.3 billion citizens of the Islamic countries.
The success of the gold dinar as a united Islamic currency will depend
on the level of demand of the countries that want to deal with it as the
primary currency in the international commercial dealings.
Islamic countries will benefit if they implement this new currency in
many ways, the most important of which is that these countries will not
need reserve of foreign currencies to finish commercial trading, Dr.
Mohamed Sherif Beshir said.
"Consequently, the gold dinar will be the ideal currency to facilitate
and increase international trade and minimizing speculation in paper
currency that led to the Asian currency crisis in 1997," he said.
The existence of a fund unity between the countries of the Muslim world
will increase the amount of trade between them and will help in
increasing the economic development if the conditions for the success of
the gold dinar were provided, he added.


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[e-gold-list] re: Funding

2003-03-17 Thread marco
indeed..
domain name registered on Feb 19,2003..!

marco


- Original Message -
From: "SnowDog" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "e-gold Discussion" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, March 17, 2003 6:29 PM
Subject: [e-gold-list] re: Funding


> > I have found their service to be very good and without flaw. They are
very
> > professional and I have never had a problem within their network.
>
> How did you find them, since they are new to the internet?
>
> Craig



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[e-gold-list] re: Funding

2003-03-17 Thread Mark Jeftovic
On Mon, 17 Mar 2003, SnowDog wrote:

> > I have found their service to be very good and without flaw. They are very
> > professional and I have never had a problem within their network.
>
> How did you find them, since they are new to the internet?
>

Interestingly, both Jacquelyn and Prominence Bank are posting from
the web based listserv page (while everyone else posting seems to
be doing so from their own local mailer clients).

I always find co-incidences like that interesting.

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[e-gold-list] re: Funding

2003-03-17 Thread SnowDog
> I have found their service to be very good and without flaw. They are very
> professional and I have never had a problem within their network.

How did you find them, since they are new to the internet?

Craig




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[e-gold-list] re: Funding

2003-03-17 Thread Jacquelyn Becker
As a happy customer of Prominence Bank and a longtime reader of this
forum, I must make a statement here in there defense.

I have found their service to be very good and without flaw. They are very
professional and I have never had a problem within their network.

I have in the past used a couple of other offshore bank systems, not to be
named here, and had nothing but problems. Waiting days or even weeks for
funds to be transferred while paying much higher fees.

With Prominence transfers are taken place immediately and their fees seem
to be much lower then others.
When I have a question it is always answered within a few hours – which
makes a big difference.

Anyway, I just though I should put my two cents in here as it seem someone
is out to get them in this post.

Jacquelyn Becker



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[e-gold-list] re: Funding

2003-03-17 Thread Fidex Marketing

I do not intend to correspond further on this either. List members may
draw their own conclusions from the discussions. If anyone is interested
they can call the Central Bank of Belize at +501 227 7216 and verify the
facts for themselves.

Nick
Fidex






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[e-gold-list] re: Funding

2003-03-17 Thread Paul Vahur
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Hello,

> Yes we offer walk in service and personal service in Austria 
> and Belize.

can you tell me the address of your bank branches in Austria? I have
a friend who needs a good banking service in Austria. If you don't
want the addresses of your branches to become public knowledge you
can send the addresses to me privately.

> As we try to remain as private as possible for both ourselves 
> as well as
> our customers so we do not list our address on a forum such 
> as this. All
> details and address information is given to our banking customers.

I want to become your customer, please send it to me. Also, I don't
understand why is the addresses of your offices classified
information? How does customers get to know you in the first place?

> I certainly did not mean anything by the label competitors. I 
> said we have
> nothing against any other service, at least those that are legit.

I absolutely agree with you! That's why I like to get to know all our
main competitors and make sure they are legitimate businesses.
 
> We do not list our address nor our reg names to non-members 
> as a request
> from long standing members. Please understand that the name
> Prominence Bank is only us for our internet banking system.

But you said that "Yes our internet service is new but we have been
around for over 14 years.". How did you service your customers before
you had internet presence?
 
> We do not need to prove ourselves on this forum as we said 
> before it just
> goes nowhere and there is no need for it. Again there have never
> been anything negative said anywhere about any of our firms. We run
> a very solid business.

Your goals are very sympathetic to me, but how can we be sure that
you run a solid business?


Sincerely,

Paul Vahur
General Manager
IceGold | http://www.icegold.com



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[e-gold-list] re: Funding

2003-03-17 Thread Prominence Bank
The statement that there are only 7 licensed offshore banks in Belize is
completely false as there are more then a hundred. We run one of the
largest networks for bank setup in Belize and Austria so I think we have a
bit more status on this.

We do not list our address nor our reg names to non-members as a request
from long standing members. Please understand that the name Prominence
Bank is only us for our internet banking system.

In the end this will be our last post as your accusations just start to
become ridicules (as in the 7 banks in Belize statement). It has become
clear once again there are those that are unable to offer services equal
to others and must try to bring down those that can.

We have proven for 14 years that we are the leaders in Private banking
around the world.

We do not need to prove ourselves on this forum as we said before it just
goes nowhere and there is no need for it. Again there have never been
anything negative said anywhere about any of our firms. We run a very
solid business.

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[e-gold-list] re: Funding

2003-03-17 Thread Fidex Marketing

> Our bank licenses are in the Netherlands, Austria and Belize.
> We are certainly not going to list off our reg names and address on
this
> forum.

I personally know all 7 offshore banks licensed in Belize. And
Prominence Bank is not one of them. Taken at face value, therefore, the
claim to be licensed in Belize must be fraudulent. 

There is nothing wrong in my opinion with running an unlicensed
cyberspace banking operation if you are honest about it and people are
prepared to trust you... but when somebody makes claims which are easily
proven to be false, it makes one question the whole operation. 

Nick
Fidex




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[e-gold-list] re: Funding

2003-03-17 Thread James M. Ray
At 9:38 AM -0500 3/17/03, Prominence Bank wrote:
>Our bank licenses are in the Netherlands, Austria and Belize.
>We are certainly not going to list off our reg names and address on this
>forum.
...

You may not mean for it to be, but around here this constitutes an
*enormous* red-flag. Like Paul V's post, this is not an "attack," it's a
simple statement of fact which is based on LONG experience in this
community. Hopefully, you'll look it it that way if/when answering the
questions below.

I'm curious, what do you see as the downside of listing contact info
by all the competitors who certainly *don't* follow your example?! It's
understandable for someone not-wanting his/her email here (due to
spam) but I can't see how large jpegs. of your bank-licenses could
hurt your reputation around here. They're public records anyway in
the Netherlands, Austria and Belize respectively, right? 
JMR



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[e-gold-list] re: Funding

2003-03-17 Thread Prominence Bank
Thank you for the clarification.

Yes we offer walk in service and personal service in Austria and Belize.
Additionally we are currently setting up a bank license in Asia and will
offer walk in service in HK and BKK.

As we try to remain as private as possible for both ourselves as well as
our customers so we do not list our address on a forum such as this. All
details and address information is given to our banking customers.

I certainly did not mean anything by the label competitors. I said we have
nothing against any other service, at least those that are legit.

We certainly understand anyone’s caution and it is unfortunately there are
a few out there that must use this system as a way of fraud as it comes
down on the majority that are using the system legitimately.

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[e-gold-list] re: Funding

2003-03-17 Thread Paul Vahur
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> Our bank licenses are in the Netherlands, Austria and Belize.
> We are certainly not going to list off our reg names and
> address on this forum.

Why not? Don't you have any offices where people can walk in and use
your services. I know lot of people who would be insted to use
your services, but they prefer to go to office to become a customer.

> Secondly we are not going to keep responding to our
> competitor’s comments
> as it is just a waste of time and never goes anywhere.

Today I might be your competitor, but tomorrow I might be your
customer. Besides, I believe that there are lot of people in this
list who are not your competitors but may consider becoming your
customers.

> Actually we not sure why you decided to attack us now. We have been
> advertising on this forum since we started accepting e-gold
> and evocash
> and there has never been a bad comment against us here or
> anywhere else.

I don't think I'm attacking you. I was just insted of maybe
becoming your customer too (personally), but I prefer to visit the
banks in person.


Regards,

Paul Vahur
General Manager
IceGold | http://www.icegold.com



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[e-gold-list] re: Funding

2003-03-17 Thread Prominence Bank
Our bank licenses are in the Netherlands, Austria and Belize.
We are certainly not going to list off our reg names and address on this
forum.

We do not work on a loss as our transfer service is only a very small part
of our business. Unlike most of the exchange services which or often run
by a one man team we are an established network and as a result we are
able to offer lower fees with better service.

Secondly we are not going to keep responding to our competitor’s comments
as it is just a waste of time and never goes anywhere. We do not want to
get to the point of putting down each as we have nothing against you or
other services and there is not point.

Actually we not sure why you decided to attack us now. We have been
advertising on this forum since we started accepting e-gold and evocash
and there has never been a bad comment against us here or anywhere else.

www.prominencebank.com




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[e-gold-list] re: Funding

2003-03-17 Thread Paul Vahur
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Hello,

> First of all Prominence Bank is a licensed bank in three countries.
> We have a staff of over 200 and Yes we are proud to say we offer
> superior service – beyond all other private banks.

that is so exciting! Can you please name these 3 countries and
addresses of your headquarters and regional offices? I could find no
contact information from your website.

> We are able to offer 14 hour turn around service as our offices are
> located in Asia, Europe and Caribbean – so we are virtually
> open 24 hours
> a day (m-f). Secondly it should never take longer then this
> anyway. Yes
> our service fees are low, why is this a problem?

It's not a problem if you are a big institution which can afford to
run this business at a loss for about 2-3 years.

> In the end, if you must spend your time ousting others you
> should first
> conduct a bit of hard research prior to releasing any
> negative comments.

I know that when Jim Davidson's speaks up on matters like this, he
does quite thorough research on the matter.


Sincerely,

Paul Vahur
General Manager
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[e-gold-list] re: Funding

2003-03-17 Thread Prominence Bank
We have been reading this forum for quite sometime time now and I must say
it looks as if there are a lot of competitors that are unable to offer
decent service so they are critical with those that can.

First of all Prominence Bank is a licensed bank in three countries. We
have a staff of over 200 and Yes we are proud to say we offer superior
service – beyond all other private banks.

Yes our internet service is new but we have been around for over 14 years.

We are able to offer 14 hour turn around service as our offices are
located in Asia, Europe and Caribbean – so we are virtually open 24 hours
a day (m-f). Secondly it should never take longer then this anyway. Yes
our service fees are low, why is this a problem?

In the end, if you must spend your time ousting others you should first
conduct a bit of hard research prior to releasing any negative comments.

www.prominencebank.com




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[e-gold-list] re: Funding

2003-03-17 Thread Jim Davidson
Dear Friends,

Very often, offers are made on this list which seem,
to me, to be too good to be true.  When they are, I
like to follow up.
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Tired of paying high rates for both funding and
exchange of e-currencies?
Not especially.  I'm not tired because I don't
pay high rates.
Tired of waiting for days on end to receive your
funds or gold?
Again, no.  I receive funds and gold very promptly
from http://cambist.net/
Prominence Bank (www.prominencebank.com) now offers
funding and exchange services for E-Gold and Evocash
customers.
That's interesting.  The domain prominencebank.com
seems to be quite new.
ALL FUNDS ARE TRANSFERED OR PLACED WITHIN 14 HOURS
AFTER FUNDS ARE RECEIVED
That seems to be a very bold claim.

NO RESTRICTIONS: Can be used for auction payments,
sales payments, business payments or general transfers
That seems to be a recipe for disaster.

LOWEST RATES AVIALABLE - ONLY 1% FOR ALL FUNDING
SERVICES!!!
That seems like an impressive claim.  Right along
"too good to be true."
AND VERY LOW WITH-DRAW RATES
Well, that's fun.  I wonder how long it might be
before individuals burned by prominencebank start
posting their horror stories here.
Regards,

Jim
 http://cambist.net/
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