[e-gold-list] Re: Stealing Trademarked Words
and this one is for you Robert: http://www.icann.org/gnso/issue-reports/whois-privacy-report-13may03.htm Hello Gordon, There is a difference between 'holding in trust' and 'being' a trust. You see, we settled a trust to hold domains for clients. This trust is not related to us other than that it contracted CyberFrontier to set up U2Planet.com and register domain names for it. So, in essence, WE don't know what the trust does with them or whom they are holding it for. Even if we wanted to disclose details, all we can provide is the contact details for a trust manager. We don't even knoe who the trustee is. As far as I can see, the trust might actually settle a seperate trust for each of the domain names. But that is just a guess. Now, IF that is what is happening, then the trust manager may know the trustee of the first trust, but it is unclear if that trustee is instrumental in settling the other trusts for each domain name. It then gets really complicated when the seperate trusts for each domain name have different trustees themselves. That much to the ICANN rules (guidelines?). Now, in your 3M case, who registered the domain? When you say you are holding it in trust, are you (or your comapny) the holder? If so, then I agree with Patrick's first comment of the thread. Because then you can indeed be forced by law to hand it over. Worse, you can be forced to disclose the identity of the beneficiary. If you however, have settled an actual trust for the domain, are not an officer of the trust and are merely following rules, then the rule that hosts can not be held responsible for what their respective customers use the services for is likely to apply. And, as there is no precedent that suggests otherwise, this 'service provider protection' is likely to extend to domain name registrations (for now). The question would then be, did you or did you not settle a trust, do the paperwork, etc.? It might be a question you might prefer to answer off-list by private mail, though. Lemme know if there is anything I can do. Cheers, Robert. no sig, but you all know anyway... --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use e-gold's Secure Randomized Keyboard (SRK) when accessing your e-gold account(s) via the web and shopping cart interfaces to help thwart keystroke loggers and common viruses.
[e-gold-list] Re: Stealing Trademarked Words
ICANN is the government after all... who controlls your domain name really? ICANN WAS FORMED IN RESPONSE TO A U.S. DEPARTMENT OF COMMERCE WHITE PAPER ICANN was created by members of the Internet community in response to a June 1998 White Paper, issued by the U.S. Department of Commerce (DOC). As the Internet developed, DNS functions were carried out by a variety of volunteers and US Government contractors. A non-competitive, government-funded system developed. The DOC's White Paper envisaged a global, consensus, non-profit corporation, to serve as the means by which DNS management could be privatized, enabling an open, competitive system. ICANN IS ENABLING COMPETITION FOR DOMAIN NAME (.COM) REGISTRATIONS To accomplish this, ICANN and the Department of Commerce (DoC) entered into a Memorandum of Understanding (MoU) on November 25, 1998, agreeing to work together to manage the transition from government control to private sector control. The single most visible and important element of DNS management is the registration of domain names (for example, .com, .org and .net). A single historical provider, Network Solutions,(added entry: also a psuedo governmental organization) has for years enjoyed a government-granted monopoly over new domain name registrations and renewals. ICANN has no statutory or other governmental power: its authority is entirely a consequence of voluntary contracts and compliance with its consensus policies by the global Internet community. It has no power to force any individual or entity to do anything; its authority is nothing more than the reflection of the willingness of the members of the Internet community to use ICANN as a consensus development vehicle. http://www.icann.org/general/background.htm#8 The government built it and we came. At most levels they still have full control over the net even if people don't really realize this. This goes for data hubs, router hooks, TLD's, ip assigning etc... and translates into TIA which is what they already have but only now it is starting to become public knowledge that they want to do this... what a joke that is! and this one is for you Robert: http://www.icann.org/gnso/issue-reports/whois-privacy-report-13may03.htm Gordon H. www.katzglobal.com Anonymous Hosting(tm) Solutions --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use e-gold's Secure Randomized Keyboard (SRK) when accessing your e-gold account(s) via the web and shopping cart interfaces to help thwart keystroke loggers and common viruses.
[e-gold-list] Re: Stealing Trademarked Words
On Tuesday, August 5, 2003, at 05:13 PM, Katz Global Media wrote: The 3M corporation is claiming (by certified email and mail) that a domain we hold in our trust for a client is in violation of their trademark. They have also gone as far to send us a form that allows for the domain to be transferred to them. The domain in question is called (www.3mservice.com) - (( I changed the domain name to protect the client.)) COMMENTS ANYONE? You're screwed. --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use e-gold's Secure Randomized Keyboard (SRK) when accessing your e-gold account(s) via the web and shopping cart interfaces to help thwart keystroke loggers and common viruses.
[e-gold-list] gasoline and e-gold
Dear Graham, I just bet that sucker uses more than 12 litres of unleaded gas per hour! There is a ducted fan personal aircraft which has a 200 mile range and uses gasoline. It is not made by Moller, and is not your gyro, either. As far as your criticism of the Moller air car, what business is it of yours how George spends his money? How is it any concern of yours that his choice of personal transportation uses more gasoline? Mind your own business. Ironically, the slogan mind your business appeared on the first USA currency, the Contintental issued by the Continental Congress in 1775-85. It is ironic since the fiat money was imposed on the market, and minded other people's business. I have a question for all e-gold users: have you ever bought gasoline with e-gold? It seems to me that gasoline is mostly sold electronically in the USA nowadays. I go up to the pump, put in a debit or credit card, pump my own gas, and drive away. The only place I'm denied this charming opportunity is in Oregon, which has some socialist program for hiring the indigent to pump gas. Regards, Jim http://www.ezez.com/ - 16.5 ounces at $351 still on offer --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use e-gold's Secure Randomized Keyboard (SRK) when accessing your e-gold account(s) via the web and shopping cart interfaces to help thwart keystroke loggers and common viruses.
[e-gold-list] Re: Stealing Trademarked Words
I am not willing to do that, but I can say that it has been changed to take on the same meaning and context so that the discussion would be on key with the facts of this. g/ --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use e-gold's Secure Randomized Keyboard (SRK) when accessing your e-gold account(s) via the web and shopping cart interfaces to help thwart keystroke loggers and common viruses.
[e-gold-list] E-Gold game script
Hi, The original DGCLottery game script is on sale now for a special price of only $50. Limited copies are available. Order at http://dgclottery.com SV http://DGCLottery.com http://gigalance.com --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use e-gold's Secure Randomized Keyboard (SRK) when accessing your e-gold account(s) via the web and shopping cart interfaces to help thwart keystroke loggers and common viruses.
[e-gold-list] Re: gasoline and e-gold
From: Jim Davidson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wed, 6 Aug 2003 08:00:24 -0500 To: e-gold Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [e-gold-list] gasoline and e-gold It seems to me that gasoline is mostly sold electronically in the USA nowadays. I go up to the pump, put in a debit or credit card, pump my own gas, and drive away. The only place I'm denied this charming opportunity is in Oregon, which has some socialist program for hiring the indigent to pump gas. I believe self-service is also prohibited in New Jersey. - John --- http://cambist.net --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use e-gold's Secure Randomized Keyboard (SRK) when accessing your e-gold account(s) via the web and shopping cart interfaces to help thwart keystroke loggers and common viruses.
[e-gold-list] Re: Stealing Trademarked Words
I see things like this: 1. e-gold-casino is a trade-mark infringement because it confuses visitors in the way they are likely to think e-gold-casino is run by E-gold. 2. bet-with-egold is not an infringement because it tells visitors they can *use* egold to bet with. This is like I would put a sign on my store saying I sell Pepsi. Any normal buyer would think that I sell Pepsi, but not that PepsiCo has opeded a store there. But if I would put a sign with Pepsi Store, a buyer could think that PepsiCo has opened a store there (which is not true). Regards, George Hara www.filematrix.xnet.ro --- Xnet scaneaza automat toate mesajele impotriva virusilor folosind RAV AntiVirus. Xnet automatically scans all messages for viruses using RAV AntiVirus. Nota: RAV AntiVirus poate sa nu detecteze toti virusii noi sau toate variantele lor. Va rugam sa luati in considerare ca exista un risc de fiecare data cand deschideti fisiere atasate si ca MobiFon nu este responsabila pentru nici un prejudiciu cauzat de virusi. Disclaimer: RAV AntiVirus may not be able to detect all new viruses and variants. Please be aware that there is a risk involved whenever opening e-mail attachments to your computer and that MobiFon is not responsible for any damages caused by viruses. --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use e-gold's Secure Randomized Keyboard (SRK) when accessing your e-gold account(s) via the web and shopping cart interfaces to help thwart keystroke loggers and common viruses.